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who started carbs for breakfast?
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Every conspiracy theorist I've ever heard from (and believe me, I've heard from A LOT) also considers themselves to be a realist. Like you they then go on to assert they're right with anecdotal, unverifiable evidence. Oddly enough it seems they too always "work somewhere" or "know a guy" who gave them the real truth the rest of us are just too common to get. They tell you to use your head, ignore large government agencies who have represented the public health and well being for decades, and trust them, complete strangers on the internet.
So no. Until I get solid evidence otherwise I will trust the United States Department of Agriculture over the story I read from agentscully51.
It's not a fringe conspiracy theory, and it's not even a secret that the food industry has influence over nurtition guidelines.
Here's some evidence for you. No wikipedia, no fluffy websites, no baseless assertions here. I hope my sources are up to your standards.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/02/us/school-lunch-proposals-set-off-a-dispute.html?_r=2&scp=1&sq=school lunch&st=cse
http://health.msn.com/health-topics/cholesterol/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100153762
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/pyramid-full-story/index.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/11/the-potato-dispute-should-we-allow-starch-in-school-meals/247840/
http://recipes.howstuffworks.com/menus/who-decides-lunch-plans.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/pizza-vegetable-school-lunches-lobbyists_n_1098029.html
And here is Harvard School of Public Health's alternative to USDA's My Plate. From the introduction:
"The Healthy Eating Plate, created by experts at Harvard School of Public Health and Harvard Medical School, points consumers to the healthiest choices in the major food groups. The U.S. Department of Agriculture's MyPlate, in contrast, fails to give people some of the basic nutrition advice they need to choose a healthy diet. The Healthy Eating Plate is based exclusively on the best available science and was not subjected to political and commercial pressures from food industry lobbyists."
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-plate/healthy-eating-plate-vs-usda-myplate/index.html0 -
Toxins, haha. Do you purposely ignore the research indicating the neutrality &/or health-promoting effects of grains in order to not anger the gods of your anti-grain religion? Good thing most of the longest-living, healthiest populations on this planet do not live by the rules of your religion. Even the bulk of controlled trials do not support your fear of grains, and we're talking about diets that aren't even optimized from a macronutritional standpoint. Folks who preach dietary extremes are simply ignorant of the totality of the scientific evidence, and it's obvious that you're one of them. And once again, I'm happy to see that majority here are not taking you seriously - especially after your selective definition of what's a grain & what's not. I would be impressed to find out that you are not a troll. Good luck with your goals in 2012, just don't expect to create many converts to your doctrine.
It is unfortunate the number of people here who simply want to troll instead of making intelligent discussion.0 -
It is unfortunate the number of people here who simply want to troll instead of making intelligent discussion.0
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Call the kettle black much? Trollish behavior is making bold claims & accusations & not putting up supporting research. You are doing lots of hand-waving & whistle-blowing, yet you have put up zilch in terms of research that backs up your preachings. And to reiterate, you've used the weak timeline argument, and also the weak human engineering of foods argument, and then you topped it off with a discriminatory definition of grains. You have contributed nothing but baseless claims to this discussion. Try presenting evidence for your claims if you want to add some quality to the discussion.
I posted several links to information for you to read, troll much?0 -
I feel better if i have protein for breakfast. Usually a hard boiled egg.0
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I fill up MUCH better with a banana, cereal, and almond milk compared to eggs...everyone is different...0
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If I had an egg first thing in the morning I'd feel sick, to be honest.... Love my oatmeal0
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LOL, I don't know, but it's different in every country! My Polish immigrant Grandfather started the day with sausage, not little ones either and he lived to be 93! My Grandma, rye toast and creamy coffee, and she lived to be 93 too!
When we lived in Germany people would eat brotchen(hard roll) with cheese and lunchmeat for breakfast.0 -
Eat whatever you want to eat so long as it's quality foods and allow you to stay in your calorie range
I need carbs in the morning otherwise I feel groggy and tired...0 -
As soon as I wake up all groogy and irritable, I drink a beer and a shot of whiskey. I feel like a million bucks shortly after..0
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We are all unique.
I eat 1 bowl of high fiber oatmeal (sometimes I add fresh blueberries) and I also have 1 slice of natures own double fiber whole wheat toast w/ half a tbsp of unsalted butter. Carbs? Yes. However, I also have 15 grams of protein by 9 am. Works for me.
++decaf coffee w/ 1/4 cup almond milk0 -
As soon as I wake up all groogy and irritable, I drink a beer and a shot of whiskey. I feel like a million bucks shortly after..
yessss!0 -
Eat whatever you want to eat so long as it's quality foods and allow you to stay in your calorie range
I need carbs in the morning otherwise I feel groggy and tired...
me too! the other guy says whiskey will help! haha0 -
As soon as I wake up all groogy and irritable, I drink a beer and a shot of whiskey. I feel like a million bucks shortly after..
So that's the secret morning solution that I needed to discover. Thank you, you've opened my eyes0 -
I always eat carbs/fats/protein for breakfast..why not? I workout first thing in the morning and replenish my body right afterwards
It's worked like a charm!
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I posted several links to information for you to read, troll much?0 -
Not sure if the original post was answered at all in the 6 pages we have here but let us have a small history lesson on the need for mass marketing of breakfast. First I will agree people have been eating carbs for breakfast forever. Oats, Rice, grains, all easy quick meals many generations of cultures have had every morning since the begining of Agriculture.
The real push came back in the late 19th century. Many people were looking for something that would store easy and be quick to make. This was particularly important in the west with the catle men. Hardtak was the first thing to come along that was used. a mixture of oats and corn meal bound together. shredded wheat came next. and as packaging became more readily available more and more cereals became available for consumption. eventualy we ended up with the culture we have today when every day must start with "A balanced breakfast," which consists of you cereal in milk, 2 pieces of toast, fruit, and juice. All with a grand total of way more than you need.0 -
rjt1000 I do microwave eggs for breakfast too - like a frittata/scrambled/ omelette - 1 or 2 eggs in microwave dish, a little low fat milk and cheese, add chopped veges as liked, microwave 1 to 2 mins on high and voila!0
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