Modest Women?

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  • Laura_Suzie
    Laura_Suzie Posts: 1,288 Member
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    I dress modestly for religious reasons. I don't even show my shoulders. It is SO hard to find dresses, especially for formal events...

    It kind of pisses me off in church when they say, "Dress modestly in order to keep the men's thoughts pure! Blah, blah, blah..." So we have to jump through hoops to find modest clothing and get chastized if we are "immodest", but the guys can wear whatever the hell they want and go shirtless. It's times like this when women get the short end of the stick...
  • penrbrown
    penrbrown Posts: 2,685 Member
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    I dress modestly for religious reasons. I don't even show my shoulders. It is SO hard to find dresses, especially for formal events...

    It kind of pisses me off in church when they say, "Dress modestly in order to keep the men's thoughts pure! Blah, blah, blah..." So we have to jump through hoops to find modest clothing and get chastized if we are "immodest", but the guys can wear whatever the hell they want and go shirtless. It's times like this when women get the short end of the stick...

    This site has some REALLY cute modest dresses: http://www.beautifullymodest.com/
  • Laura_Suzie
    Laura_Suzie Posts: 1,288 Member
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    I dress modestly for religious reasons. I don't even show my shoulders. It is SO hard to find dresses, especially for formal events...

    It kind of pisses me off in church when they say, "Dress modestly in order to keep the men's thoughts pure! Blah, blah, blah..." So we have to jump through hoops to find modest clothing and get chastized if we are "immodest", but the guys can wear whatever the hell they want and go shirtless. It's times like this when women get the short end of the stick...

    This site has some REALLY cute modest dresses: http://www.beautifullymodest.com/

    Yes, I've been on that site a lot! My sister actually got her prom dress through them. I also love shabbyapple.com and downeastbasics.com!
  • penrbrown
    penrbrown Posts: 2,685 Member
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    I dress modestly for religious reasons. I don't even show my shoulders. It is SO hard to find dresses, especially for formal events...

    It kind of pisses me off in church when they say, "Dress modestly in order to keep the men's thoughts pure! Blah, blah, blah..." So we have to jump through hoops to find modest clothing and get chastized if we are "immodest", but the guys can wear whatever the hell they want and go shirtless. It's times like this when women get the short end of the stick...

    This site has some REALLY cute modest dresses: http://www.beautifullymodest.com/

    Yes, I've been on that site a lot! My sister actually got her prom dress through them. I also love shabbyapple.com and downeastbasics.com!

    Yay for some new sites to shop at. :) Thank you.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
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    Also, if you intend to call attention to your body parts that you know arouse men's imaginations, you need to be aware that you are advertising yourself as an object to be used for pleasure (at least mentally) by whomever sees you. The checker at the grocery store, the creepy maintenance guy, your friend's grandfather...
    Try to not be surprised or offended when you are treated that way.

    That's MY opinion. I am not bothered by others sharing their opinions. I have plenty of good friends who have widely different opinions from mine...so I know it can be done respectfully. :wink:

    I agree that you should be allowed to dress modestly for your own reasons without ridicule.

    I can't control other peoples' thoughts. But I can expect them to treat me respectfully. So yes, I can be offended if a man treats me as an object who is only to be used for pleasure, because he does not have the right to do that. If I wear a pair of skinny jeans and he likes legs, he absolutely does not have the right to talk down to me or treat me as any kind of object. And as has been pointed out, men are very visual. Where do I get to draw the line before he loses his right to treat me as an object to be used for pleasure? When he likes my face or my hair? When he likes the look of my figure through my modest clothing?

    Maybe instead of me taking responsibility for him, he can see it as an opportunity to renew his faith to his wife and look the other way. Maybe he can say a silent repentance for his lustful thought, both to his wife and toward a woman for seeing her as nothing but an object of pleasure because she has breasts and legs, and ask God for a little more spiritual guidance to strengthen him from the weakness of HIS flesh, not mine.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
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    I really hope that I am not offending you or your religion. I truly believe in live and let live when it comes to religion, as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else. But if a man's religion means he can treat me as an object of pleasure because of the way I am dressed, I would consider that infringing on me. (If he merely thinks about me that way, well hey. Thoughts are thoughts and behaviors are behaviors. People are still people, men are still men. I know they have sexual thoughts, and that doesn't offend me.)
  • S1NN3R
    S1NN3R Posts: 452 Member
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    Modesty has never been for me.

    I prefer fitted, tight and/or short clothing. :smile:
  • bushidowoman
    bushidowoman Posts: 1,599 Member
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    I really hope that I am not offending you or your religion. I truly believe in live and let live when it comes to religion, as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else. But if a man's religion means he can treat me as an object of pleasure because of the way I am dressed, I would consider that infringing on me. (If he merely thinks about me that way, well hey. Thoughts are thoughts and behaviors are behaviors. People are still people, men are still men. I know they have sexual thoughts, and that doesn't offend me.)

    I'm not offended. I would never tell a woman (or man) that I thought what s/he is wearing is inappropriate unless s/he asked me specifically what I thought. Because I don't want to make others feel uncomfortable. Maybe what they are wearing makes ME feel uncomfortable, but I'm a big girl and can deal with it. Some people are very sensitive!
    But here's where I'm coming from.
    There are people out there, men and women, who would rather not see another's sexual organs flaunted in front of them. It makes them uncomfortable.They find it disrespectful. They feel it infringes on them.
    I agree that you are free to wear what you want. But I also strongly believe that if I'm free to express myself and speak my mind, then others are free to express themselves and speak their minds, too.
    You may feel that their comments infringe on you, because you don't want to hear that. They may feel that you flaunting your breasts infringes on them because they don't want to see that.

    The guys who want to see your breasts are more likely to comment than the guys who don't. :wink:

    FWIW, most "religious" men who take their faith seriously and who believe in being respectful will try to look the other way. I agree with this wholeheartedly, and so does my husband:
    Maybe instead of me taking responsibility for him, he can see it as an opportunity to renew his faith to his wife and look the other way. Maybe he can say a silent repentance for his lustful thought, both to his wife and toward a woman for seeing her as nothing but an object of pleasure because she has breasts and legs, and ask God for a little more spiritual guidance to strengthen him from the weakness of HIS flesh, not mine.

    But I want to point out here...I believe that the desire to draw attention to your body and be admired IS a weakness of the flesh. It's just a different weakness. Guys want to look and we know this and we want to be looked at. But we want the attention to be on OUR terms. We expect the guys to rein in their own weaknesses, but we don't feel like we should have to rein in ours? We can do whatever we want, but they must behave? We can flaunt ourselves in front of them, but they still must be respectful gentlemen?
    See, I just don't believe in that kind of double standard. If I want to be shown courtesy and respect, I'll do my best to show it to others. Including keeping my desire for attention in check and in its proper setting. (No, I'm not perfect in this area. I'm trying.)
    I can't say it often enough...respect is a two-way street.
  • Sister_Someone
    Sister_Someone Posts: 567 Member
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    Modesty and Martine don't come from the same planet!

    There was one period, last year around this time, when I didn't feel comfortable in fitted or revealing clothing because that was at my highest weight ever, I was ashamed of myself and didn't feel like ever going out of the house again, let alone in tight clothing, but now I'm almost back to my comfortable weight, it shows in my fashion sense. I'd never intentionally wear something that hides what I've achieved.

    However, I do believe that every single person is entitled to live as they choose for the reasons that matter to them and that nobody should ever be mocked for any reason, so if you're most comfortable dressing modestly, well power to you!
  • skinnybefore
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    It all boils down to respecting others and respecting yourself. I don't need to see yours and you don't need to see mine.

    I believe that's why society has become so trashy in the past 60+ years... what was once covered, protected, and saved for your spouse, is now hanging out for all to see... whether we want to or not!

    There was a time when people respected themselves, their families, their spouses, their country. Now, it's all about who gets the most attention, no matter what the cost. :(
  • splashangel
    splashangel Posts: 494 Member
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    I dress the way that I do because of my religious beliefs.
    Dresses at least below calves.
    Sleeves no shorter then 3/4 inch.
    Shell under most shirts. Slip under thinner skirts.
    I am complimented often on my appearance.
    I love my way of life and am very active. I have friends that I go to the beach with and they wear bikinis. I body surf, jog, play vollyball etc. in my dress. It's not about what I'm wearing, rather, who I am. The people who hire me to paint a sign for them could care less about what I am wearing. I get the job because I can do it.
    Some have mentioned that possibly these woman didn't have confidence. Low self esteem.
    Picture yourself on a crowded beach in a dress and long sleeves. Bodysurfing. Actually, it takes a lot of backbone at times to stick to what you feel is right for you.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
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    I'm not offended. I would never tell a woman (or man) that I thought what s/he is wearing is inappropriate unless s/he asked me specifically what I thought. Because I don't want to make others feel uncomfortable. Maybe what they are wearing makes ME feel uncomfortable, but I'm a big girl and can deal with it. Some people are very sensitive!
    But here's where I'm coming from.
    There are people out there, men and women, who would rather not see another's sexual organs flaunted in front of them. It makes them uncomfortable.They find it disrespectful. They feel it infringes on them.
    I agree that you are free to wear what you want. But I also strongly believe that if I'm free to express myself and speak my mind, then others are free to express themselves and speak their minds, too.
    You may feel that their comments infringe on you, because you don't want to hear that. They may feel that you flaunting your breasts infringes on them because they don't want to see that.
    The guys who want to see your breasts are more likely to comment than the guys who don't. :wink:
    FWIW, most "religious" men who take their faith seriously and who believe in being respectful will try to look the other way. I agree with this wholeheartedly, and so does my husband But I want to point out here...I believe that the desire to draw attention to your body and be admired IS a weakness of the flesh. It's just a different weakness. Guys want to look and we know this and we want to be looked at. But we want the attention to be on OUR terms. We expect the guys to rein in their own weaknesses, but we don't feel like we should have to rein in ours? We can do whatever we want, but they must behave? We can flaunt ourselves in front of them, but they still must be respectful gentlemen? See, I just don't believe in that kind of double standard. If I want to be shown courtesy and respect, I'll do my best to show it to others. Including keeping my desire for attention in check and in its proper setting. (No, I'm not perfect in this area. I'm trying.)
    I can't say it often enough...respect is a two-way street.

    Of course respect is a two way street. And for the record, I don't wear figure flaunting clothing, but I still wholeheartedly argue that women who do in no way invite a man to treat them as a mere object to be used. No one has that right. And many of us do not consider our breasts to be mere sexual organs, and my first priority in how I dress myself is not going to be how a man perceives them. A man has the choice to look away if he doesn't want to see them, unless the woman is thrusting them in his face. If a man (or a woman) wanted to talk to me about my outfit, I suppose they have that right, though that would be more of an infringement than my mere existence.

    Put it this way--I could argue that a woman is turned on by men who seem like they can provide. It would be ridiculous for women to expect men not to dress well so as not to make them think desirous thoughts toward a man who isn't her mate. And it would be ridiculous for said woman to say, "If you choose to wear a Rolex, don't be offended when I treat you like a bank."

    And yes, I expect a man to behave. There's a big difference between someone liking attention and a man treating her as if she is nothing more than an object to be used. Truly, which one is the bigger sin? It's a short step away from saying a woman asks to be raped. A woman could walk in front of me naked and I wouldn't debase her--because I don't think of anyone as mere objects to be used for my pleasure. That's not something we can induce in another person--that's a deep flaw in the person who can do that.

    It's not my responsibility to worry about a man's sins of the flesh, and it's not his responsibility to worry about mine. If he considers me to be sinning by having breasts that aren't encased in a loose fitting turtleneck, that's between me and whatever God he believes in. If he has a lustful thought, that's between him and whatever God he believes in. If he treats me as an object, he's just made it my problem and has sinned upon me. Again, my breasts are not a sin, and they are not an infringement on anyone. A man who does not wish to be exposed to breasts in any way should be the one to find a way to remove himself or limit himself from a society that does not require them to be covered, not expect women to accommodate that. They are a part of the female body, not something to be ashamed of or have to keep secret.

    If I knew a man has an issue with it, it would be disrespectful and rights-infringing to deliberately flaunt myself at him. But to walk around in polite society with more skin than he's comfortable seeing, doing my own thing, and not harassing him? Not an infringement.
  • TeachTheGirl
    TeachTheGirl Posts: 2,091 Member
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    I'd like to learn to dress in a more modest fashion but still look fashionable. I've always been large on top and anything too high up on the neckline makes me feel like I'm suffocating!
  • misslegz
    misslegz Posts: 196 Member
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    Do what is comfortable for you. As long as you feel beautiful and are happy when you look into the mirror that more power to you.
    Tight and revealing clothes doesn't make someone sexy....that is all you on the inside!


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  • AmericanCowboy76
    AmericanCowboy76 Posts: 99 Member
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    I like women to dress modestly and only be overly flirty with me (If I am dating them). Could be why I like cowgirls so much. They tend to be the kind of women who only have eyes for their man. Nothign wrong with dressing sexy but why give it all away instead of saving it for your man.
  • ChaseAlder
    ChaseAlder Posts: 804 Member
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    This is my life in clothes:

    Day 1: Uniform for work.
    Day 2: Get off work at 7am, shower, put on pajamas.
    Day 3: Shower again, put on new pajamas.
    Day 4-5-6: Repeat.

    If I have to leave the house, I throw on whatever is clean and still fits, which is barely anything anymore.
  • VelociMama
    VelociMama Posts: 3,119 Member
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    I'm a modest dresser. I don't like showing my shoulders, and I rarely wear shorts, though I hate skirts. I'm just most comfortable when I'm a little more covered.
  • MichelleLaree13
    MichelleLaree13 Posts: 865 Member
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    I think there is a time and a place. When I am at home, I wear WAY less than I would wear in public. I like my body (even with the few extra lbs I am trying to get rid of). I am a nurse now and understand I could run into a co-worker or potential employer anywhere. I dont want to lose out on an amazing oppurtunity because of a silly outfit. I dont wear shorts because they always ride up. I dont wear anything that causes a muffin top (achievable at any weight). I dont have clevage to show. The beach is fair game for whatever. I like dressing nice but I also need to dress like I may meet a potential employer.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,676 Member
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    I'm not sure, honestly!

    I had no problem flaunting myself when I was younger and in hot shape.

    However, as a mum of 3, I no longer desire men staring at my body. The idea of wearing pants so tight that the contours between my thighs are visible just plain old weirds me out. Same thing with cleavage. ( Mind you, I'm barely a b cup, so it's really not hard to avoid showing cleavage ).

    I'd love to wear ATTRACTIVE clothes, but not ATTRACTING clothes, if that makes sense.
    This probably is somewhat like me.
    I am sensitive to the idea of attractive vs. attracting.
    Partly because I respect the wives of other men!
    And I like the sexual expression to be inside of a committed married forever relationship.
    My husband is VERY attracted to me and I get LOTS of attention, and I believe I can attribute that to a healthy sexual focus....on eachother! I dress for success in this area, AT HOME:wink:

    When I see women out in public, dressed "immodestly" I really don't think too much about it.....unless she has an immodest way about her...then it's different somehow. It's more the person than the outfit.

    But I know for men, they can't hardly help but have a reaction to what they see. So I value being concientious about this.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
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    I'm curious - why are pants not modest?? Last I checked, they cover everything... unless I'm doing it wrong... which is entirely possible.

    Skinny leg jeans don't really leave much to the imagination.

    Depends on how much imagination you have. :flowerforyou:

    But honestly, I think everyone should wear what they feel comfortable in, enjoy wearing and is at lest semi-appropriate to their surroundings. (IE, don't wear a baseball cap to a black tie wedding, and don't wear a formal gown to a ball game... that's not why they're called BALL gowns. :wink: )