Why has cardio become a swear word on MFP all of a sudden?

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  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    Cardio is actually what SAVED me! I was doing bootcamp 3X per week and not seeing many results because of my eating habits. When I added 2 days of cardio to those 3 days of bootcamp and started eating right, the pounds starting shedding quickly. I am a firm believer that cardio is the KEY to losing weight and inches, mixed with the weight training. So you keep going sista! :smile:
    It was the "eating right" not the cardio.
  • HeatherR930
    HeatherR930 Posts: 214 Member
    I do cardio almost every day of the week. I was told by a personal trainer to loose the weight you want to loose first by doing cardio and then focus on toning with weight lifting ect.
    Your trainer is wrong.

    +1! I'd get a new trainer. I always wonder why people say a version of this that goes something like "I'm going to eat a deficit and burn calories through cardio to lose weight. Then I'll do strength to gain muscle." Huh?? Why would you not just do both at the same time? Lose fat, maintain muscle and lose inches and forget the da@@3%M scale! Why cost yourself muscle and then try to rebuild it?

    We get so hung up on the number on the scale! What if you could wave a magic wand and get 12% body fat and look and feel great but you stay the weight you are right now? I'd take that deal all day long! Now I'm within 10 lbs of my goal and I get it if you have 25 or 50 or 75 lbs too much but you'd still be served well by a balanced approach.
    I 100% agree!! I would be looking into a new trainer because this is very bad advice & not true! You absolutely need both cardio & weight training to achieve overall fitness. Anyone who says you only need one or the other is wrong, plain & simple. I have lost 57 lbs & have been doing a steady cardio AND weight training routine the entire time. I have lost a ton of fat but gained a good amount of muscle at the same time! You can't have great cardiovascular endurance with no cardio, & a good muscle tone with no strength training at all!
  • dinosnopro
    dinosnopro Posts: 2,177 Member
    I will admit I have not read through all 17 pages so I don't know if this was said. Most people that just do cardio to lose the weight are most likely the ones that are not happy with their body composition when they hit their goal weight. Personally I do not like cardio, so I use weight lifting and diet to lose my weight. I am sure it would go faster if I did some sort of cardio. I agree with the whatever works for you, but when you get to your goal weight and are still not happy with your body, you are going to have to start weight training.
  • shanlynt
    shanlynt Posts: 718 Member
    I'd rather be skinny fat than than fat fat any day of the week.
  • Di3012
    Di3012 Posts: 2,247 Member
    I will admit I have not read through all 17 pages so I don't know if this was said. Most people that just do cardio to lose the weight are most likely the ones that are not happy with their body composition when they hit their goal weight. Personally I do not like cardio, so I use weight lifting and diet to lose my weight. I am sure it would go faster if I did some sort of cardio. I agree with the whatever works for you, but when you get to your goal weight and are still not happy with your body, you are going to have to start weight training.

    Why?

    Cardio sports do actually build muscle too you know, running, swimming, cycling, rowing, skiing.....
  • FORIANN
    FORIANN Posts: 273 Member
    A strong cardiovascular system will go a lot further to increase your longevity and quality of life than a six pack. Cardio goes a long way to prevent a lot of diseases and the benefits are amazing. Let's face it...lifting weights is easier than doing an hour of intense cardio. :)

    Cardio should always be your first priority. I don't care how much you can bench if your heart stops.

    Yes, I do strength training also, but I'm smart enough to weigh the value of cardio and know it's worth.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,903 Member
    Why?

    Cardio sports do actually build muscle too you know, running, swimming, cycling, rowing, skiing.....
    Well not really. They build "muscular endurance". It's not the same as muscle hypertrophy.

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  • dinosnopro
    dinosnopro Posts: 2,177 Member
    I will admit I have not read through all 17 pages so I don't know if this was said. Most people that just do cardio to lose the weight are most likely the ones that are not happy with their body composition when they hit their goal weight. Personally I do not like cardio, so I use weight lifting and diet to lose my weight. I am sure it would go faster if I did some sort of cardio. I agree with the whatever works for you, but when you get to your goal weight and are still not happy with your body, you are going to have to start weight training.

    Why?

    Cardio sports do actually build muscle too you know, running, swimming, cycling, rowing, skiing.....

    facepalm.jpg
  • Hearts_2015
    Hearts_2015 Posts: 12,031 Member
    Arguing about cardio vs strength training is like arguing about which side of the bed is best, because the answer is "the middle." :tongue:
    :drinker:
  • Buddhasmiracle
    Buddhasmiracle Posts: 925 Member
    I'm not knocking strength training, I do it, but I know a few things for certain:

    1. It doesn't have to involve weights.
    2. The younger you are, the less you can get away with doing and still look good. (young = naturally firmer, me = old)
    3. I have lived more than half a century doing mostly cardio, at times only cardio, and I have remained completely healthy (no diagnoses, no meds, no syndroms, rarely overweight, etc.) despite coming from a history of heart and vasular disease on both my mother and father's side of the family, and diabetes on my mothers.
    4. I still look good naked. Not as good as I did when I was 30, but good.

    What would be better to combat age related sarcopenia, cardio or strength training?

    Strength training definately!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,903 Member
    A strong cardiovascular system will go a lot further to increase your longevity and quality of life than a six pack. Cardio goes a long way to prevent a lot of diseases and the benefits are amazing. Let's face it...lifting weights is easier than doing an hour of intense cardio. :)

    Cardio should always be your first priority. I don't care how much you can bench if your heart stops.
    Subjective. There are many NFL players who are in excellent cardio shape for their size, but suffer issues with joints and heart issues than smaller people who may not do cardio at all.
    Cardio is important and tough, but to say weight lifting is "easier" is subjective. Maybe easier for you, but you might change your mind if you trained with someone who knows both well.
    Genetics and susceptibility to heart disease dictates how each individual's heart's health is deemed. Just because someone does cardio over strength training, doesn't mean their heart health is necessarily better.

    I don't think it's fair to distinguish just one form of exercise being better than another for one's health because we are are all different individually.

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  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    . Let's face it...lifting weights is easier than doing an hour of intense cardio. :)

    If you can do intense cardio for an hour, it's not intense.
  • kidakiwi04
    kidakiwi04 Posts: 238
    Cardio: Allows you to outrun the Zombies
    Strength Training: Allows you to be able to be strong enough to fight your way out if necessary


    Your going to need both to survive should Zombies come to eat your brains. Just saying

    :drinker: :laugh: :flowerforyou:
  • BootcampJunkie
    BootcampJunkie Posts: 69 Member
    At the end of the day as long as you're moving, either it being running, walking, yoga or lifting weights, your still doing better than joe-blow sitting on the couch with their bag of potato chips. Its nice to see people out there do an activity that they enjoy to better their health in some way. Not every activity out there is meant for everyone why force someone to do something they don't enjoy in risk of them quiting all together and returning to the couch. We should respect the cardio people for loving cardio and the strength people who love lifting weights, we are all here for different reasons but a common goal of living a healthy active lifestyle.
    Can't we all just get along.
  • demonNIИ
    demonNIИ Posts: 187
    I'd rather be skinny fat than than fat fat any day of the week.
    ^ THIS
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    Let's face it...lifting weights is easier than doing an hour of intense cardio. :)

    You're doing your weights wrong then. When I leave the weight room, one of three things is true;
    - Walking to the car park is slow, staggered and very, very painful.
    - Lifting my arms to drive my car is very, very painful.
    - Trying to stand up once I've driven home is very, very painful.

    Lift to failure for an hour, then come back and declare the same is true.
  • AZackery
    AZackery Posts: 2,035 Member
    A lot of people love pushing weights. They believe that a person will have to eventually use weights one day in their lives and that's not true. A person doesn't have to lift weights to get muscular triceps, biceps, legs or abs. There is a such thing as body weight workouts.

    A lot of people that's pushing the "lift heavy" message loves to show pictures of their arms, so people can see their biceps and triceps, but what about their abs and legs? What is the heavy lifting doing for those areas?

    Losing fat. I'm not talking about scale weight. I'm talking about fat. It takes time. Let me say losing 100% fat takes time. A person can lose fat and muscle or should I say lean body mass at the same time, but when you lose 100% fat, you will not lose lean body mass.

    Just because a person lift weights 7 days a week, it doesn't mean they lose 100% fat fast. They can build muscle, but that muscle will be under fat.

    I love cardio. If the next person doesn't. That's fine. But no one should think cardio is bad. Everyone should do what they feel is best for their body.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    A lot of people love pushing weights. They believe that a person will have to eventually use weights one day in their lives and that's not true. A person doesn't have to lift weights to get muscular triceps, biceps, legs or abs. There is a such thing as body weight workouts.

    A lot of people that's pushing the "lift heavy" message loves to show pictures of their arms, so people can see their biceps and triceps, but what about their abs and legs? What is the heavy lifting doing for those areas?

    Losing fat. I'm not talking about scale weight. I'm talking about fat. It takes time. Let me say losing 100% fat takes time. A person can lose fat and muscle or should I say lean body mass at the same time, but when you lose 100% fat, you will not lose lean body mass.

    Just because a person lift weights 7 days a week, it doesn't mean they lose 100% fat fast. They can build muscle, but that muscle will be under fat.

    I love cardio. If the next person doesn't. That's fine. But no one should think cardio is bad. Everyone should do what they feel is best for their body.

    And bodyweight workouts are fine for beginners, but eventually you will have to use weights if you want to continue to build muscle.
  • jackpotclown
    jackpotclown Posts: 3,275 Member
    well if cardio is a swear word, then some of you need to go cardio yourselves, because I'm cardio'in sick and tired of hearing you cardio'in people go back n forth about your cardio'in routines. Have a nice cardio'in day.....cardio'ers!!! \m/
  • Toddrific
    Toddrific Posts: 1,114 Member
    dunno, have you seen the ghetto workouts, they do it all on jungle gyms.

    It seems to me it's a pendulum. It also seems that cardio has always been overhyped. I've noticed carbs is a swear word too.

    Balance is key.

    Also, I've seen Crossfit videos where strength training and cardio go hand in hand, and those people look crazy fit.

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