Are Fit women the most hated group in America?
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Im a little late into this, the pic is gone but I know exactly what your talking about I see it on my FB ALL THE TIME!!
AS an over weight woman I will say a lot of it is jealousy because it seems to hard to be what is attractive to normal society so to make themselves feel a bit better they look for reassurance in disrespecting something they are not and the people just like this "jealous " person follow suit....Another big thing with it is that, it does seem so far away from what they are and they figure theyll never be there so build themselves up with false confidence when 7x out of 10 they would rather be in the same realm as "the girl on the right" ....AND THEN,,,,,there are women out there who are truley happy with being heavier! Its not often when you find a woman who is heavier to be 100% happy with themselves but these women are out there!!! As a heavier chick myself I USED TO HATE ON THE SKINNY CHICKS EVERYTIME!!! Purely because I was ashamed of myself and that dream seemed so far away and not achievable! NOW, I respect anyone (women and men alike) who go through the trials to be fit and stay fit, the people who treat their bodies as temples and respect themselves. the only time I hate on anyone now is if they are rude to me or talk **** about me or give me mean looks! in other words UNLESS im provoked I do not judge by size or beauty I judge by personality because no matter how big or small you are, you personality will determine if your actually attractive
I know ILL probably get a lot of hate for this but get over it and stop being in denial all the time, being honest with yourself isnt the end of the world. If your heavier and HAPPY inside and OUT NO COMPLAINTS I APPLAUD YOU!!! If your FIT and WORKING IT NO COMPALINTS I APPLAUD YOU!! DONT HATE! APPRECIATE!!0 -
Actually, that's a gross exaggeration. Something like 30% of adults are obese, so they (actually 'we' until a couple days ago) are not a majority.There are I think way more obese people in the United States than fit people, so it is the norm being fit seems to be out of the norm...
Percent of adults age 20 years and over who are obese: 33.9% (2007-2008)
Percent of adults age 20 years and over who are overweight (and not obese): 34.4% (2007-2008)
(http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/overwt.htm)
My math says 68.3% of Americans are overweight (as of 2008, and you know it gets worse every year). That would be the majority, so I think it is fair to say that "overweight" is more normal than "fit", and therefor may be the cause for the perceived "skinny bashing".
It doesn't make it right, mind you, but just a theory.
Being overweight doesn't mean you aren't fit. Four years ago I lost 50 pounds to get down to the top of the "normal" BMI range which is something like 175 for a 5'11" person. I was too thin almost gaunt. Had I stopped ten or even fifteen pounds sooner, I would have technically been overweight but wouldn't have looked it and I was very fit.
Personally, I think BMI is way too general. That's why this time my plan this time is to not go as skinny as before.0 -
You can sum it up like this:
Morbid Obesity: Dangerous to your health both short-term and long-term and shouldn't be encouraged
Anorexic/Underweight/Malnourished: Dangerous to your health both short-term and long-term and shouldn't be encouraged
Only one of these body types enjoys glamorizing by the media, Hollywood and the fashion industry. There is nobody out there that looks to obese women with envy and tries to emulate them. However, the opposite is true. That's why there is a backlash against the images of current Hollywood celebs and others showing off their often unhealthily underweight bodies. An overweight but not morbidly obese woman is often going to be more healthy then her malnourished counterpart. Yet, the size 0 wunderkind is the one that is put up as the female ideal. This is a disturbing part of our culture.
It kind of reminds me of the old Kelly LeBrock commercial quote, "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!" Ironically, Kelly LeBrock found herself on Celebrity Fat Camp a few years ago.0 -
Personally, I think BMI is way too general. That's why this time my plan this time is to not go as skinny as before.
I totally agree with you here. I've got a 32" waist, and can see definition in muscles throughout my body, but I think I still fall under "overweight" according to BMI.0 -
You can sum it up like this:
Morbid Obesity: Dangerous to your health both short-term and long-term and shouldn't be encouraged
Anorexic/Underweight/Malnourished: Dangerous to your health both short-term and long-term and shouldn't be encouraged
Only one of these body types enjoys glamorizing by the media, Hollywood and the fashion industry. There is nobody out there that looks to obese women with envy and tries to emulate them. However, the opposite is true. That's why there is a backlash against the images of current Hollywood celebs and others showing off their often unhealthily underweight bodies. An overweight but not morbidly obese woman is often going to be more healthy then her malnourished counterpart. Yet, the size 0 wunderkind is the one that is put up as the female ideal. This is a disturbing part of our culture.
It kind of reminds me of the old Kelly LeBrock commercial quote, "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!" Ironically, Kelly LeBrock found herself on Celebrity Fat Camp a few years ago.
Not all size 0s are anorexic/malnourished/underweight, but if you mention that you are a size zero or, god forbid, double-zero, you are immediaely lumped in with those that are unhealthily underweight. I am in good health, fit and a size zero or double zero. I am 5'1" tall and 107 pounds, so it's not unexpected. But as soon as people hear size zero, the comments begin, and they are NOT pleasant to hear!
The worst thing is, I am now the size I was in my 20s - when I was a perfect size 8. It's not my fault they keep moving the sizes to accommodate the egos of women who don't want to admit they are no longer as trim as they were when they were younger. If they put the sizes back to where they were when I was younger, would that make me less anorexic/malnourished/ underweight?
Misperceptions and assumptions are king - reality appears to account for very little.0 -
Simply put:
Humans are selfish, jealous, irrational, and emotional beings whose behavior is usually driven by a desperate, fundamental need to belong to the in-group, preferably in a superior position but really, any will do in a pinch.
The OP's perspective, that of the opposition, and those of everyone else on this site can generally be categorized thusly.
None of this is a surprise.0 -
From my experience, the friends of mine that have posted pictures like that on FB are overweight, and I don't think that they are doing to it "skinny bash" as to make themselves feel better about their own situation. Looking at the fit woman in the photo seems like something that is completely unrealistic and un-obtainable when you are overweight. So, hearing that Marilyn Monroe was a size 14 means that maybe, just maybe, they are hot and desired as well. Make sense?
Nobody should ever bash anyone on their appearance. I have had friends who are morbidly obese who struggle daily with their weight issues, and I have had friends who are severely underweight who struggle with their weight issues. In particular, I had a friend in college who was a size 00 who could NOT gain weight. Ever. And she was picked on just as much as the girl in our class that was morbidly obese. It really is a no win situation. It is unfortunate that in our society today, that we haven't moved past these issues (size, race, sexual orientation, gender, religion - whatever). Very sad that when certain people feel crappy about themselves that they have to lash out at someone who doesn't deserve it. "Can't we all just get along?"0 -
Andi, thats exactly what your friends are doing! Putting down skinny girls to make themselves feel better about their own situation! That is skinnybashing. And a person has to be pretty pathetic to make others feel bad about themselves in order for them to""" feel better about their own situation."""0
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Back in Jan. while at the doctors a nurse came into the exam room while I was waiting for my Dr. and went over my BMI with me. She told me that at 6"1 and 217-218 lbs ( 3-4 lb.'s more than I weighed in my profile pic.) I was obese!! She then started making suggestions about how I could lower my BMI. and had me sign and date a form. I got pissed because I had just spent the entire past year busting my *kitten* in order to not be considered obese so I took off my shirt (was going to have to anyway) and asked her to please point out on my body were she thought I could lose enough fat so I wouldnt be considered obese. BMI Is a Joke!!
Personally, I think BMI is way too general. That's why this time my plan this time is to not go as skinny as before.
I totally agree with you here. I've got a 32" waist, and can see definition in muscles throughout my body, but I think I still fall under "overweight" according to BMI.0 -
Andi, thats exactly what your friends are doing! Putting down skinny girls to make themselves feel better about their own situation! That is skinnybashing. And a person has to be pretty pathetic to make others feel bad about themselves in order for them to""" feel better about their own situation."""
Agree...I just don't think they are doing it consciously. It's more of a "this is a random skinny girl I don't know" type thing vs saying it about a "real" woman they know. I am not excusing it...just can be empathetic. Agree that nothing like this is OK. I hate the "I'm notfat, I'm fluffy" kind of things, too. No...you're fat. So am I...that's why I'm here!0 -
The nurse was wrong. 6-1, 218 is not obese according to BMI, it's overweight. Also, BMI is not a good indicator for persons that do a lot of weight training. At least they were wrong about that and not something that matters, like reading your x-ray.Back in Jan. while at the doctors a nurse came into the exam room while I was waiting for my Dr. and went over my BMI with me. She told me that at 6"1 and 217-218 lbs ( 3-4 lb.'s more than I weighed in my profile pic.) I was obese!! She then started making suggestions about how I could lower my BMI. and had me sign and date a form. I got pissed because I had just spent the entire past year busting my *kitten* in order to not be considered obese so I took off my shirt (was going to have to anyway) and asked her to please point out on my body were she thought I could lose enough fat so I wouldnt be considered obese. BMI Is a Joke!!0 -
Simple answer: Fat bashing is not okay. Skinny bashing is.
I must be living in a completely alternate reality. I don't know, maybe America is different but fat bashing is the most (or only) acceptable form of discrimination here. I see people fat bashing on the internet every day. Not to mention all the negative stereotypes associated with being overweight - laziness, gluttony, greed, lack of willpower. What stereotypes are associated with people of a healthy BMI? That they eat healthy, workout, they take care of themselves, etc. etc. Doesn't matter whether that's actually true or not, this is still the assumption of most people.
Really,because when I was a t a normal weight I was told to eat a hamburger daily,called anoreix,called vain,had a bumper sticker stuck on mailbox that said I hate skinny *****es ect0 -
I don't think bashing anybody on the basis of their physical appearance, either overweight or skinny is acceptable.
However, if I had to choose one to stamp out then it would be fat bashing because there are simply more advantages in the way a person is perceived generally if they are slim.
Fat people and slim people aren't really in the same starting position.0 -
Back in Jan. while at the doctors a nurse came into the exam room while I was waiting for my Dr. and went over my BMI with me. She told me that at 6"1 and 217-218 lbs ( 3-4 lb.'s more than I weighed in my profile pic.) I was obese!! She then started making suggestions about how I could lower my BMI. and had me sign and date a form. I got pissed because I had just spent the entire past year busting my *kitten* in order to not be considered obese so I took off my shirt (was going to have to anyway) and asked her to please point out on my body were she thought I could lose enough fat so I wouldnt be considered obese. BMI Is a Joke!!
Personally, I think BMI is way too general. That's why this time my plan this time is to not go as skinny as before.
I totally agree with you here. I've got a 32" waist, and can see definition in muscles throughout my body, but I think I still fall under "overweight" according to BMI.
Maybe she just wanted to take a look at what was under that shirt? The last time I was a healthy weight according to BMI, all of my ribs stuck out and I looked like I was very ill. My skin color was horrible, my skin and hair looked aweful. I am not looking to the BMI scale to get me to my healthy weight this time.0 -
Fit woman are the most admired in America
This!!! Not the most hated. Fat women are hated. I have had things thrown at me, names called by strangers, refused service to me, dirty looks and laughed at and was even told by a car salesman I was to fat for a car I was going to buy. All for being fat. AND all by ADULTS.0 -
Fit woman are the most admired in America
This!!! Not the most hated. Fat women are hated. I have had things thrown at me, names called by strangers, refused service to me, dirty looks and laughed at and was even told by a car salesman I was to fat for a car I was going to buy. All for being fat. AND all by ADULTS.
All that except the car thing and rewstraunt thing happened to me when i was thin,also dirty looks,vandalism to my house ect it is not exclusive to overweight and just because those things happen to the people that are overweight does not excuse it been done to those who arent0 -
I did a search for the mosted hated group in america #1 Athiest #2 tea party:laugh:0
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Andi, thats exactly what your friends are doing! Putting down skinny girls to make themselves feel better about their own situation! That is skinnybashing. And a person has to be pretty pathetic to make others feel bad about themselves in order for them to""" feel better about their own situation."""
happens all of the time and its sad.
This!!! Not the most hated. Fat women are hated. I have had things thrown at me, names called by strangers, refused service to me, dirty looks and laughed at and was even told by a car salesman I was to fat for a car I was going to buy. All for being fat. AND all by ADULTS.
I'm sorry that someone thought that any of that was acceptable behavior, because its not. Just as its not acceptable for someone to tell a smaller person to eat a cheeseburger, etc. We really need to start respecting others a little more.0 -
People will always find something in others to try to exploit. Even "perfect" people get razzed on by people who are just plain jealous.
For me, it's about not worrying what someone thinks about me. While I'm physically fit, I get razzed on ALL the time by friends and family about the crappy wardrobe I have. I'm not into fashion and wear sweats, tank tops and t shirts, and shorts to just about every occasion. Drives my wife nuts.
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Bingo! This is exactly correct. If a thin person feels sad, they can find solace in the fact that they will have many benefits in our thin-obsessed society.I don't think bashing anybody on the basis of their physical appearance, either overweight or skinny is acceptable.
However, if I had to choose one to stamp out then it would be fat bashing because there are simply more advantages in the way a person is perceived generally if they are slim.
Fat people and slim people aren't really in the same starting position.0
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