Tried to eat more it does not work

Dumbell_Diva

ALSO if you are passing out these advices but not considering all the health of that person, like diabetes, high blood pressure, thyroid disease, cardio disease, immune disorder and liver function, then you should really not tell people what they should be doing. IT may effect their health. I just stated what my doctor told ME to do. The human body has other factors that play into how it works. Hormones are a big piece of that puzzle and everyones body makes these hormones on different levels and therefore will always have different results.

I am not argueing or debating with anyone. My heart just hurt for this woman who asked for simple help when people were just flat out rude or mean. So I hope she figures out what works and is successful in her journey. May the weight fall off and you find your true happiness.

Totally agree here, cant understand why some people on here are so downright mean! Here is a lady who is a single parent, stressy life, 3 children she is responsible for, she has simply asked for help and advice not people being rude mean or patronising. Everybody is different, depending on health issues. I myself have hormonal issues that changed my metabolism, I am menopausal and I cant eat as many calories as most of my friends. I take peoples well meaning advice with a pinch of salt. I find it despicable that people criticized and patronized this poor lady.

ladyraven68

I am not argueing or debating with anyone. My heart just hurt for this woman who asked for simple help when people were just flat out rude or mean. So I hope she figures out what works and is successful in her journey. May the weight fall off and you find your true happiness.

It's one thing to ask for help, it's another to completely disregard the advice when 90% of responses are telling you the same thing.

Actually, she didn't ask for help, she simply stated that she had tried eating more and it didn't work, so she was going back to eating sub 1000 calories.

rebeccap13

I think most people are trying to provide help actually. There have been a few "harsh" responses but most people have just been sharing their opinions and personal stories with eating more or less calories than their BMR.

psuLemon

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chubberlang

Fat2fit radio. These podcatss are well worth a listen. They refer to myfitnesspal quite a bit. There is one podcast that discusses eating back calories burnt during excercise. They have a different standpoint.... Which is interesting.

chubberlang

Doctors can also be wrong sometimes

toriaenator

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im excited for this... listen to psulemon when he replies, he helped me when i had the same mentality.

DataBased

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im excited for this... listen to psulemon when he replies, he helped me when i had the same mentality.

Me too - he helped me when I was stalling and I'm just now starting my 2nd week of his recommendations. And I'm losing again.

:happy:

dgbiggz

I agree with you!!! I was told the same thing because I range anywhere from 1000-1200 a day and I am losing about 1-2 pounds a week. When I eat more I don't do so well. Everyone is different and I'm not going to force myself to eat just to get over 1200 calories. That's crazy to me. Your body has a way of telling you to eat hungry so if your not feeling it don't do it.

Thanks for that l agree..I do eat every 2-3 hours throughout the day so l am keeping my body in fuel so that l do not burn out and l am very fit and on the go all day long with 3 kids and work to keep me busy and l am very happy eating around 1200 or least.

I am not going to eat the calories that l am burning l find that not right, why burn calories if you are only going to eat them back?

I have wondered about that too. I mean my trainer says "burn calories", not eat them back after you burn them? I just don't see how you are supposed to lose weight that way, but nevertheless that theory does not work for me either. You DO have to listen to your body. I got FAT by eating when I wasn't hungry & I never let my body get hungry...now I just eat when it tells me that I need to & I'm doin' jussst fine! It works for some people...just not for me.

chiera88

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CnocNaCu

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myak623

This is all I want to do while reading this thread




OP, obviously, was only looking for people to agree with her.

jessie1480

From someone who totally messed up her metabolism... When you add calories you have to do it slowly, and make them all good calories. 3 weeks isn't enuff time expeahally with how little you were eating. I'm glad that it's working for you, but the blanket statement that it dosent work isn't fair for those who har trying to be healthy and fit and slim. It works. I gained when I upped my calories, my boyfriend, and great MFP friends urged me to measure. I lost a ridiculous amount of inches. It works, you just have to be patient and do it right. Please don't encourage others to damage their metabolism, that's not fair.

toriaenator

This is all I want to do while reading this thread




OP, obviously, was only looking for people to agree with her.

this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ everyone who said something going against her views was immediately treated like idiots. DONT MAKE A DAMN TOPIC IF YOU CANT HANDLE VARYING OPINIONS.

Tzippy7

yea listen to your body! why does everyone get so mean and touchy about this!? If people feel good with the amount they are eating that is great!

rebeccap13

You eat exercise calories back because you are already eating at a deficit which will lead to weight loss.

EXAMPLE: I need 1900 cals to maintain my weight WITHOUT working out, aka my BMR + cals needed to sustain my daily activities like work, running errands, etc = TDEE without working out.

Option 1) I can either create a deficit by working out, burn roughly 500 cals a day and eat all my 1900 cals. 1900 cals in - 500 cals burned = NET 1400 cals.

Option 2) I can create a deficit strictly eating less 1400 cals in - 0 cals burned during exercise = NET 1400 cals

Option 3) Or I can eat and exercise 1400 cals in - 500 cals burned during exercise + 500 cals earned back from exercising = NET 1400 cals, which is essentially the same as Option 1, just looked at a little differently.

I prefer Option 1 or 3 because I would like to get in shape and not just lose lbs.

Beezil

Three weeks of upping calories, and you didn't gain any weight. That's a good sign. You need to give your body more time to adjust to that before giving up on it. What you're losing now, since you're barely hitting 500 net calories day to day, is most likely water weight and lean muscle mass. If you're okay with being weak, having no muscle, and starving yourself to death, I suppose that is a good choice...

HiKaren

I've just checked your diary - I'm not sure why you think you are eating more.

Some days you aren't even netting 500 calories.

Go to reports, nutrition, net calories - it's the net calories that should be over 1200, you are way under.

^^THIS.

Yea, you're losing now, but guess what? You're most likely losing muscle mass. And I don't know about you but I would like to keep my muscle and lose my fat. You should be NETTING 1200 calories a day (OR MORE). It will take more than 3 weeks to repair your metabolism, and from what I've read, you were most likely not eating enough when you upped your calories. I eat well over 1600 calories a day, somedays I even eat over 2000 and I lose a pound a week. My work outs aren't crazy either, never more than an hour a day. I'm fairly small too, 135 pounds. It can be done.

OP.... This is what I'm doing now. Read up on it. It may make sense, especially if you want to keep off your weight after you get to goal. Repairing metabolism is the long term key. I believe this now.

keesh1123

"yea listen to your body! why does everyone get so mean and touchy about this!? If people feel good with the amount they are eating that is great!"




^^^This is so not true. She clearly doesn't "feel good" about eating so LITTLE or she wouldn't have given eating MORE a try.

The bottom line is she didn't do it long enough and didn't do it right. I've been here before. It took me four weeks to see results on the scale once I upped my cals and I wanted to quit and go back to eating less every day of that four weeks.

Why do adults choose to eat less than children just to get quick results that won't last???

hesn92

I'm so confused. I'm looking at your diary and you have HUGE amounts of calories left over at the end of every single day... you know that is the number of calories you are supposed to be eating, right?? You can't say "eating more doesn't work" when you haven't even started eating the appropriate number of calories yet. You are still not eating enough. Be kind to your body, you only get one.

NotGoddess

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Twisted_Wrister

these posts make me roll my eyes, and facepalm...

Agreed.

::flipdesk::

trysha1231

I've just checked your diary - I'm not sure why you think you are eating more.

Some days you aren't even netting 500 calories.

Go to reports, nutrition, net calories - it's the net calories that should be over 1200, you are way under.

This^^ . You're eating too little so your body may be storing fat.

How can it store fat when she will be using that for energy to compensate for her deficit?

Because her body will attack her lean muscle mass...

When you restrict food intake your body turns to your lean muscle instead for fuel, protecting your fat stores.

psuLemon

I find your responses funny. My doctor is both a nutritionist and a MD. She has a bachelor in nutrition and worked as a fitness trainer and went back to med school after her first daughter was born to become a doctor and own her own weightloss clinic. SO before you go and posting about things you are not clued in on, ask first. Just a suggestion.

I am also educated in nurtition and science. I do think that it depends on where you get your information from whether or not it is correct. I hold a bachelor in animal science and hold a teaching certificate in science. I understand that I must research my topics and doctors. I HAVE researched them and she is very well credited in her area of specialty. My point was on how you state your position (most were rude and mean) and that if you are NOT in a specialty to not pass out your opinion because some people will bite and it may actually hurt their health.

ALSO if you are passing out these advices but not considering all the health of that person, like diabetes, high blood pressure, thyroid disease, cardio disease, immune disorder and liver function, then you should really not tell people what they should be doing. IT may effect their health. I just stated what my doctor told ME to do. The human body has other factors that play into how it works. Hormones are a big piece of that puzzle and everyones body makes these hormones on different levels and therefore will always have different results.

I am not argueing or debating with anyone. My heart just hurt for this woman who asked for simple help when people were just flat out rude or mean. So I hope she figures out what works and is successful in her journey. May the weight fall off and you find your true happiness.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985

How bout the NIH? Do that count as a reputal source for meal timing?



OP, lets try to put some stuff in perspective and try to be as unbias as possible. It's obvious things aren't working for you. I say this for a few simple reasons. First, if it was working, then why would you have increased your calories in the first place? And I believe Einstein said the definition of insanity is " doing the same experiement over and over and expecting different results". So going back to your old ways will cause an issue right?


Now, there are a few main factors you have to consider when looking for weight loss, or more importanly, fat loss. The two main variables are a BMR and your TDEE. Your BMR is aka as your metabolic rate. This is the amount of calories your body requires to run the systems (organs, brain, etc...) and your TDEE is the amount of calories your body burns throughout a day, including exercise. Now for all those who are "older" and say I have a slower metabolic rate, there is a reason for it. As people age, your body has a harder time holding onto lean muscle mass. Is that a problem? Not soo much. This just means your starting point to measure TDEE is lower than your 20 year old twin. I know we all want to say we are special and different but we aren't (see first link for more information).

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

Ok, so now we established that you have two major variables, we have to evaluate your caloric needs (aka - calories to burn fat, maintain lean muscle mass and run all the systems). To understand, I will do some estimates based on real life people I have worked with. One of the people I am working with used to eat 1400 calories and did a ton of cardio. She plateau'd around 145 lbs for months. She is 36 years old and came to me after seeing some post of mine (as you can tell with my followers). And here is her response

"I just wanted to thank you for your help. You helped me a few months back and I just wanted to give you an update on my progress. 12 weeks ago I started at 154 and 28% bf. I got my bf remeasured last Friday and it was 24%. But I only lost 1 pound. It is crazy to me but I have learned to ignore the scale. You were right that keeping consistent and not giving up my body would finally adjust.

Thanks again for your help!

Stephanie"


BTW, her routine is ONLY weight lifting. Zero cardio. And she was eating 2100 calories on workout days and 1800 calories on non workout days.


It's a simple known fact, that your body needs calories to burn. Calories = fuel. So what happens when you don't eat enough calories? You put a lot of stress on your body and your body fights back (see second link)

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

So for all those number geeks, lets look at an example. Lets say your BMR is 1400 calories and you do 30DS (where you burn 300 calories a day) and you live a sedentary lifestyle. That means your caloric needs are:


1400 * 1.2 + 300 = 1980

From there we can form a deficit

i use a 20% deficit as the bigger you are, the large the deficit you can sustain and this will help preserve muscle mass

=1980 * .8 = 1584

This means, your nutritional needs are 1600 calories a day. Now eating below this doesn't mean you will lose faster. The math says it will, but the body can contradict the math as proven by those on VLCD that are already in a healthier weight limit and those who hit weight loss plateaus.


Lets start here and discuss. I could rant for longer but I will reframe.

Lemon

rebeccap13

Holy good info... ^^^^ all of that!

RachelVon

Today you netted 23 calories.

No wonder you aren't losing weight.

Allegi32

ihateroses

Oooo more light reading!

ironanimal

maybe l have put on muscle?

Eating at what is basically a slow starvation level? No.

watboy

Good idea. Many people find that out on here.

I was eating more food as everyone was telling me to do so. But l have not loss any weight in the last 3 weeks by eating more. So now l am going back to eating under 1200 cals a day as l was losing the weight then without any problems.

I think you do really need to listen to your body and that will let you know if you need more fuel or not.