6 yr old taken to police station in handcuffs
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I was discussing this with a co-worker of mine and found it interesting that her immediate reaction was to say that the school was wrong. In my opinion, this child's age shouldn't matter. It is the school's responsibility to protect the staff and students. If a student poses a threat to the environment, regardless of age, the school has to take action to control the situation. I mean, the principal got hurt because this student pushed a shelf over on him/her! If this were a Jr. High or High School student, reactions would be totally different. Everyone would be like, "Yeah! That kid should be punished!!" Why is it different because this child is younger? Isn't it better to try to put a stop to this kind of behavior BEFORE the child gets any older? Just my opinion!
fully agree with this. i spanked my child, used time outs etc. She was diagnosed bipolar at a young age finally, but before she was finally stabilized on meds, we had the cops come help more than once, had her taken to the phosp because at age 7 she attempted suicide for the first time and when she went manic right after that it took 3 cops to pin the 7 year old 65 lb kid down long enough to get her into a cop car. Ive had to call the cops on her even now as a teenager because she has lost it when in the middle of med changes enough that im bruised, black-eyed and have a bloody lip. Yea she's still majorly punished because its my firm belief that she can recognize when she's close to taht point and doesnt do what she needs to to stop herself from getting to the point of no return. She agrees, but sometimes, letting loose feels so good, which we all know that release of pent up frustration feels good.
People sometimes need to step back and realize they dont know the whole situation. While i have NO problems using handcuffs on a 6 year old if their/others lifes or well being are jeapordized, you dont know why the child acted like that. It could be a bad home, it could be a lack of discipline, it could be a mental illness, it could be a spoiled rotton child, it could be the school/police went overboard, but its more likely its a combination of all the above. Parenting classes, phych eval, discipline, structure, etc all helps kids, even 'mentally typical' kids (srry its the new politically correct way of saying 'normal').0 -
"Our policy states that any detainee transported to our station in a patrol vehicle is to be handcuffed in the back. There is no age discrimination on that rule," Milledgeville Police Chief Dray Swicord told WMAZ-TV.
I'm all for law enforcement "doing their job" the Nazis used the same excuse, true story
What I have a problem with is that stupid phrase overruling common sense. come on, 6? How strong is a 6yr. old that you can't detain her without handcuffs? :noway:
ever try to restrain a child that is out of control?0 -
If that were my kid she would be happy the police had her in custody when I came to pick her up.0
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no way. a 6 year old doesn't understand things the way an adult does. you arrest the parents.
Arrest the parents? Really? Way to teach the kids they will be held responsible for their actions.....
its the parents responsibility to figure how to hold their children responsible. Again- kids don't have the mind capacity to understand the concept of being arrested. arresting a kid doesn't solve any problems.
I don't understand how that's so difficult to comprehend. It's the parents responsibility to be accountable for their child and get the child the resources they need. If the parents won't willingly seek help for a child who obviously has control issues then the parents should be compelled to do so, carting a 6 year old off to the police station in hand cuffs my scare the poo out of her, but it's not going to solve the root of the issue.
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. I'm sickened by the fact that the upcoming generations are not taught how to appropriately act and if they do something wrong the first thing they do is look at the school and ask what they are doing wrong. I'm a licensed therapist as well as a middle school counselor and it disheartening how many parents as the teachers why their kid is failing classes. Uh, duh....they are not doing their homework, they are not following rules and they are getting into trouble which is resulting in them being out of the classroom not receiving instruction due to consequences they EARNED.
When I was growing up if I got in trouble or brought home bad grades my parents asked ME what the problem was with ME.....never went to the teacher and blamed them!!!
And even if we have our "moods" we are taught that we do not act out in an inappropriate way. If the kid has a mental health issue then these problems are not new and the parents should be seeking help. Not blaming the school for doing what was necessary to protect the students and staff from harm.
If a child did this in my kid's classroom and my child was in danger and the child was NOT removed from the situation I would be furious that my child was in danger because of the other kid. And if the parent can't be located and the policy is to transport then do what is necessary. My kid acts like that I will shake the hand of the cop who handcuffs him and puts him in the back of the car. (And I'm the mother of a 6 year old)
Kids today need to realize that their behaviors have consequences and that they are responsible for their behaviors. It is not someone elses fault that they did what they did.0 -
"Our policy states that any detainee transported to our station in a patrol vehicle is to be handcuffed in the back. There is no age discrimination on that rule," Milledgeville Police Chief Dray Swicord told WMAZ-TV.
I'm all for law enforcement "doing their job" the Nazis used the same excuse, true story
What I have a problem with is that stupid phrase overruling common sense. come on, 6? How strong is a 6yr. old that you can't detain her without handcuffs? :noway:
its not a matter of detaining so much as it is for the safety of the person so they dont hurt themselves anymore....our policy was the same with the addition that if they were kicking you would use feet restraints also...I am of german heritage but no swastika's for me but thanks ....just serve and protect all colors0 -
My youngest has ADHD and a mood disorder. There are signs earlier than 6 if that is the case for this girl. There were times when I had to physically restrain my daughter. Fortunately, the rages subsided by the time she hit school, but had they not, I would have had no problem with her being handcuffed and removed from the school. She was incredibly strong during these rages and had no regard for her safety or the safety of others. She usually didn't remember what she had done either. And yes, she was/is disciplined...spankings, timeouts, etc...
^^^^ this this this.
this is a big part of my point earlier. My daughter often cant remember what she did after she rages, doesnt give her an excuse for suffering reprocussions, but others need to protect themselves too.0 -
I just wanted to say that my faith in humanity is restoring reading all the parents who're NOT siding with the kid here. Its unfortunate but seriously...control your kids!
Edit: BTW, to all those "give every kid a participation trophy even after losing a game" kinda parents, what would you have liked the school to do? Just take abuse from a freaking 6 years old?
I'm all for the squirty bottle approach myself... I mean hey, it works with my cats and dog when they are unruly... so why not on a child that insists on acting like a wild animal? And I'm serious by the way... I fully stand by my orignal comment.0 -
"Our policy states that any detainee transported to our station in a patrol vehicle is to be handcuffed in the back. There is no age discrimination on that rule," Milledgeville Police Chief Dray Swicord told WMAZ-TV.
I'm all for law enforcement "doing their job" the Nazis used the same excuse, true story
What I have a problem with is that stupid phrase overruling common sense. come on, 6? How strong is a 6yr. old that you can't detain her without handcuffs? :noway:
ever try to restrain a child that is out of control?
I have restrained a child that is out of control and it is a feat in itself. I used to work in a psychiatric hospital and if you needed to move a child that was out of control it would take multiple trained staff members (mostly male) to do so in a safe way because we couldn't use handcuffs. And I'm talking about 5, 6, and 7 year olds. When they are out of control they are incredibly strong and the danger of someone getting hurt is incredibly high.0 -
there's a huge difference between arresting a 15 year old kid and a 6 year old. a 15 year old understands what's going on..a 6 year old won't learn a thing.0
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"Our policy states that any detainee transported to our station in a patrol vehicle is to be handcuffed in the back. There is no age discrimination on that rule," Milledgeville Police Chief Dray Swicord told WMAZ-TV.
I'm all for law enforcement "doing their job" the Nazis used the same excuse, true story
What I have a problem with is that stupid phrase overruling common sense. come on, 6? How strong is a 6yr. old that you can't detain her without handcuffs? :noway:
ever try to restrain a child that is out of control?
Yep, last night I had to hold him upside down for 20 seconds because holding his feet was the only way he'd stop kicking and head butting me mid tantrum . . . I love 2 year olds (no really I do . . . when they're sleeping or eating hot dogs). Raising my own child with a reflection of my own personality has taught me the importance of embracing self control and concise communication as opposed to animal gut instinct.0 -
"Our policy states that any detainee transported to our station in a patrol vehicle is to be handcuffed in the back. There is no age discrimination on that rule," Milledgeville Police Chief Dray Swicord told WMAZ-TV.
I'm all for law enforcement "doing their job" the Nazis used the same excuse, true story
What I have a problem with is that stupid phrase overruling common sense. come on, 6? How strong is a 6yr. old that you can't detain her without handcuffs? :noway:
detain with.... what? your hands? and risk hurting a 6 yr old? i don't think that's a lawsuit the police want....0 -
there's a huge difference between arresting a 15 year old kid and a 6 year old. a 15 year old understands what's going on..a 6 year old won't learn a thing.
While that may be true there is the safety of the unruly child AND the safety of everyone else around that child at stake... I don't see it so much as "punishment" as much as a protection factor...0 -
they could have isolated the child in another way. If security was needed, so be it. If the police were needed, they could have taken the child into a room and contacted the parents/emergency contacts. Handcuffs is excessive for a 6 year old. I do agree there is a safety issue at stake though.0
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This must be ugly side of the board, but it's easy to judge until it's YOUR little girl being handcuffed thrown in a police car. God have mercy on all of you.0
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they could have isolated the child in another way. If security was needed, so be it. If the police were needed, they could have taken the child into a room and contacted the parents/emergency contacts. Handcuffs is excessive for a 6 year old. I do agree there is a safety issue at stake though.
if she was raging, throwin chairs etc, then no, handcuffs is not excessive at all, im just surprised they found ones small enough for her.0 -
Hold on, here's a question. So - it's okay for the police to use handcuffs on a 6 year old, but what would those same school administrators do if they saw a child come to school with signs of restraining bruises on a child's wrists? They'd call those same police officers, and what would those same police officers do when they saw those same restraining bruises? Seriously? You're cheering the school administration and police on for doing the same thing that a parent would be arrested for doing and CPS would be called in for observing.0
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If her parents spanked her, this wouldn't be a problem...
A wooden spoon speaks volumes.
*sigh* Oh memories...I had many a wooden spoon broken over my bum and I turned out fine.0 -
This must be ugly side of the board, but it's easy to judge until it's YOUR little girl being handcuffed thrown in a police car. God have mercy on all of you.
If MY little girl was acting a fool and had to be transported in a police car for tearing a school up then the handcuffs would be the least of her worries when I got her....
Theres no judging going on which makes your post sad, trying to turn it into something it isnt...God would have mercy on her little *kitten* for acting that way.....but then my little girl (for now) knows not to act a fool so it wont be an issue...0 -
This must be ugly side of the board, but it's easy to judge until it's YOUR little girl being handcuffed thrown in a police car. God have mercy on all of you.
I have already sold my soul. No mercy needed.0 -
Hold on, here's a question. So - it's okay for the police to use handcuffs on a 6 year old, but what would those same school administration do if they saw a child come to school with signs of restraining bruises on a child's wrists? They'd call those same police officers, and what would those same police officers do when they saw those same restraining bruises? Seriously? You're cheering the school administration and police on for doing the same thing that a parent would be arrested for doing and CPS would be called in for observing.
if there are restraining bruises on her because she's having these issues at home too and the parents arent taking care of it, then yeah cps should be called so the parents get the help either they, their kid or both needs to help this girl deal with whatever issues are making her act this way, whether they're mental, physical or just lazy discipline issues.0 -
Oh yes, the solution to this is spanking. Always spanking :sick:0
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People saying a six year old doesn't know what they are doing are talking rubbish. If she's old enough to pull a bookcase onto a teacher, she's old enough to take responsibility for it, end of.
Glad they cuffed her and took her away, unfortunately all it's gonna do is make the parent sue someone for a bit of cash.0 -
If my kid was a nightmare, I would applaud them taking her away in handcuffs. Maybe she will think about it next time. Scared straight!
My mom had my sister arrested one time (she wasn't actually charged with anything, but she basically had the police scare the crap out of her) when she was 13. My sis was a typical out of control teen, thought she could talk to anybody however she wanted, lots of anger issues. She slapped my mom so she got carted out of the house in handcuffs---and now my sister wouldn't even dare talk back to my mom! That one incident taught her a LOT about what happens when you act like an *kitten* in the real world.
If your child is THAT out of control at age 6, there is something going on with them. Whether they have extreme emotional issues, have issues at home, or a chemical imbalance, there is something wrong. Parents need to do a better job of recognizing that their children have issues instead of just embracing what special little flowers they are.
We didn't agree in the other thread but I def agree with this ^0 -
they could have isolated the child in another way. If security was needed, so be it. If the police were needed, they could have taken the child into a room and contacted the parents/emergency contacts. Handcuffs is excessive for a 6 year old. I do agree there is a safety issue at stake though.
But wasn't it stated that the police officer tried to get ahold of the mother 6 times? How many times do the police need to try and contact the parents before they need to do anything? If the authorities kept that child in an empty room until the parents came to pick the child up, they would be complaining about that too... By the way... the parents didn't come pick up the child... the aunt did, so I wonder how long she was in "custody" of the police.0 -
Hold on, here's a question. So - it's okay for the police to use handcuffs on a 6 year old, but what would those same school administrators do if they saw a child come to school with signs of restraining bruises on a child's wrists? They'd call those same police officers, and what would those same police officers do when they saw those same restraining bruises? Seriously? You're cheering the school administration and police on for doing the same thing that a parent would be arrested for doing and CPS would be called in for observing.
not even the same ballpark...obviously there would be documentation to the fact that the police used restraints on the child during transport....explaining any scratches or bruising..
If a child shows up out of the blue with bruised wrists then yes the police would be called and an investigation would occur...0 -
This must be ugly side of the board, but it's easy to judge until it's YOUR little girl being handcuffed thrown in a police car. God have mercy on all of you.
If MY little girl was acting a fool and had to be transported in a police car for tearing a school up then the handcuffs would be the least of her worries when I got her....
Theres no judging going on which makes your post sad, trying to turn it into something it isnt...God would have mercy on her little *kitten* for acting that way.....but then my little girl (for now) knows not to act a fool so it wont be an issue...
Amen. I would be mortified if my child acted that way! Then again, if my child had extreme emotional issues, I'd hope that I would notice and do something about it before it got that bad.0 -
If my kid was a nightmare, I would applaud them taking her away in handcuffs. Maybe she will think about it next time. Scared straight!
My mom had my sister arrested one time (she wasn't actually charged with anything, but she basically had the police scare the crap out of her) when she was 13. My sis was a typical out of control teen, thought she could talk to anybody however she wanted, lots of anger issues. She slapped my mom so she got carted out of the house in handcuffs---and now my sister wouldn't even dare talk back to my mom! That one incident taught her a LOT about what happens when you act like an *kitten* in the real world.
If your child is THAT out of control at age 6, there is something going on with them. Whether they have extreme emotional issues, have issues at home, or a chemical imbalance, there is something wrong. Parents need to do a better job of recognizing that their children have issues instead of just embracing what special little flowers they are.
We didn't agree in the other thread but I def agree with this ^
Ha, we CAN all get along!0 -
a child doesn't just act out like that out of nowhere. there were signs..there are always signs. Parents are to blame, period. The kid needs help and its the parents job to find it.0
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Hold on, here's a question. So - it's okay for the police to use handcuffs on a 6 year old, but what would those same school administration do if they saw a child come to school with signs of restraining bruises on a child's wrists? They'd call those same police officers, and what would those same police officers do when they saw those same restraining bruises? Seriously? You're cheering the school administration and police on for doing the same thing that a parent would be arrested for doing and CPS would be called in for observing.
if there are restraining bruises on her because she's having these issues at home too and the parents arent taking care of it, then yeah cps should be called so the parents get the help either they, their kid or both needs to help this girl deal with whatever issues are making her act this way, whether they're mental, physical or just lazy discipline issues.
Yes, but what I'm getting out of a lot of the responses is "yeah, they handcuffed a 6 year old and kicked her out of school." I'm getting very little "the parents have some sort of accountability." and getting even less "it's a shame that it had to come to this, hopefully now this child can get the help she really needs." Not only that, generally (remember there are exceptions to every rule) there's an escillation process, it's not like one day a switch goes off in someone's head saying "today is the day I'm going to freak the fvuk out and destroy stuff and hurt people." (unless there has been a recent terribly traumatic incident) . . . so where was the help and concern before?0
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