Fat =/= curvy
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I've read all 12 pages of this thread and I still fail to understand why this matters so much to you. The only explaination I can come up with is that you're proud of your body shape, but don't want to be on a parallel with women bigger than you are.
It's been said before, but I'm going to say it again. It shouldn't matter what term a woman uses to describe herself in order to feel beautiful. It should only matter that she DOES feel beautiful. We need to start supporting each other and stop this contanstant sabotaging. It's only making a bad problem worse.
"Be kind and compassionate and the whole world will be your friend."
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i just have to laugh. Yes, the only explanation there is for this being a pet peeve of mine is that I MUST not want to be compared to larger people.
I seriously have to laugh. That the best you people can come up with?0 -
So. What I'm hearing is that unless you're fit, you can't use any positive adjectives about your body because it offends fit women? Also, because it tells fat women that they can feel good about themselves? Why can't fat be attractive? I know my curvy fat behind looks good, I'm here to lose weight to increase my health.
Apparently, even if I think I look fantastic, I should say stuff like:
Ohhhh! Look at how my overweight borderline obese body fills this dress!
I think a lot of you people are experiencing that crazy fatty-hate that people who lose weight have.0 -
christina hendricks is not curvy...she is fat. here are pictures of her in a bathing suit. we are so used to seeing people who are morbidly obese that we think people who are fat/overweight are normal.
http://skinnyvscurvy.com/christina-hendricks/christina-hendricks-swimsuit.html
But she does have curves. She has a small waist, and larger hips. Just because she is overweight in those pictures, it doesn't mean she doesn't have a curvy shape. She does.
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christina hendricks is not curvy...she is fat. here are pictures of her in a bathing suit. we are so used to seeing people who are morbidly obese that we think people who are fat/overweight are normal.
http://skinnyvscurvy.com/christina-hendricks/christina-hendricks-swimsuit.html
But she does have curves. She has a small waist, and larger hips. Just because she is overweight in that pictures, it doesn't mean she doesn't have a curvy shape. She does.
yes she does have curves.
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I've read all 12 pages of this thread and I still fail to understand why this matters so much to you. The only explaination I can come up with is that you're proud of your body shape, but don't want to be on a parallel with women bigger than you are.
It's been said before, but I'm going to say it again. It shouldn't matter what term a woman uses to describe herself in order to feel beautiful. It should only matter that she DOES feel beautiful. We need to start supporting each other and stop this contanstant sabotaging. It's only making a bad problem worse.
"Be kind and compassionate and the whole world will be your friend."
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i just have to laugh. Yes, the only explanation there is for this being a pet peeve of mine is that I MUST not want to be compared larger people.
I seriously have to laugh. That the best you people can come up with?
Then maybe I'll just be blunt about it. It's a pet peeve of yours because you are a downright ugly person. In my honest opinion, the only people who feel the need to put someone down for any reason or who are 'peeved' by someone elses actions that have NO direct effect on them, are people looking to build themselves up.
Let it go. I promise you - you're life will be so much better if/when you do!0 -
I've read all 12 pages of this thread and I still fail to understand why this matters so much to you. The only explaination I can come up with is that you're proud of your body shape, but don't want to be on a parallel with women bigger than you are.
It's been said before, but I'm going to say it again. It shouldn't matter what term a woman uses to describe herself in order to feel beautiful. It should only matter that she DOES feel beautiful. We need to start supporting each other and stop this contanstant sabotaging. It's only making a bad problem worse.
"Be kind and compassionate and the whole world will be your friend."
:laugh:
i just have to laugh. Yes, the only explanation there is for this being a pet peeve of mine is that I MUST not want to be compared larger people.
I seriously have to laugh. That the best you people can come up with?
Then maybe I'll just be blunt about it. It's a pet peeve of yours because you are a downright ugly person. In my honest opinion, the only people who feel the need to put someone down for any reason or who are 'peeved' by someone elses actions that have NO direct effect on them, are people looking to build themselves up.
Let it go. I promise you - you're life will be so much better if/when you do!
THIS!!!!!0 -
lol if that is fat then I must be a whale, she looks like she is healthy and cuvry
.christina hendricks is not curvy...she is fat. here are pictures of her in a bathing suit. we are so used to seeing people who are morbidly obese that we think people who are fat/overweight are normal.
http://skinnyvscurvy.com/christina-hendricks/christina-hendricks-swimsuit.html0 -
It doesn't bother me unless it's used in justification or denial for an unhealthy weight. I stand by my opinion that I have a "curvy" shaped body, but I also stand by the fact that I am overweight. One doesn't cancel out the other.
That said, I've seen a few threads like this in the short time I've been on this website, and I personally think it's in such bad taste and is inevitably going to make the many self-proclaimed curvy girls on this website feel pretty bad about themselves. Triggering threads like this that will probably make someone feel bad about their body does no good for anybody. Why does it annoy you if somebody is happy with themselves? Doesn't that seem a little misguided?
Besides, saying someone is "curvy" or saying someone is "fat" is totally subjective. There is no set-in-stone archetype for what curvy is or what a fat person is... it's all up to personal connotation and opinion. So, you know, your opinion on what those words mean is not the golden standard.
I don't mean to be rude, but I think threads like this are totally not cool, and I'm really tired of seeing them. In a place that is supposed to be a haven and non-judging atmosphere for people on the journey to be fit and healthy, I think topics like this are so uncalled for.0 -
So. What I'm hearing is that unless you're fit, you can't use any positive adjectives about your body because it offends fit women? Also, because it tells fat women that they can feel good about themselves? Why can't fat be attractive? I know my curvy fat behind looks good, I'm here to lose weight to increase my health.
Apparently, even if I think I look fantastic, I should say stuff like:
Ohhhh! Look at how my overweight borderline obese body fills this dress!
I think a lot of you people are experiencing that crazy fatty-hate that people who lose weight have.
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No, it's don't paint yourself to be a body type you're not.
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lol if that is fat then I must be a whale, she looks like she is healthy and cuvry
.christina hendricks is not curvy...she is fat. here are pictures of her in a bathing suit. we are so used to seeing people who are morbidly obese that we think people who are fat/overweight are normal.
http://skinnyvscurvy.com/christina-hendricks/christina-hendricks-swimsuit.html
take a look at her pics in the link where she is in a bathing suit. that is her in reality w/o photoshop, girdle..etc...0 -
Thank you. Why does it matter if a woman is overweight/obese calls herself curvy? To me that says she needs to feel like cr@p for being big, but instead she may call herself curvy because is confident and comfortable with herself. Not all large women cry in a corner because they are big. Some of them are proud to be who they are regardless of size. To me, whatever makes them happy. If you have never been in their shoes, never been a LARGE (i'm talking 250+lbs here) woman you should not judge. People have body issues at any and every size. People also have confidence and are happy with themselves at any and every size. If someone is 500lbs but they are more than happy with it, who cares?
but if she's happy with her fat body, surely she wouldn't need to lie to herself and pretend her rolls of fat are "curves"?
She'd just say, "yeah I'm fat and I love it"
not, "I'm fat, but I'm gonna tell everyone it's just curves"
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lol if that is fat then I must be a whale, she looks like she is healthy and cuvry
.christina hendricks is not curvy...she is fat. here are pictures of her in a bathing suit. we are so used to seeing people who are morbidly obese that we think people who are fat/overweight are normal.
http://skinnyvscurvy.com/christina-hendricks/christina-hendricks-swimsuit.html
take a look at her pics in the link where she is in a bathing suit. that is her in reality w/o photoshop, girdle..etc...
If you look at her in those pics compared to this, you can see she's at a slimmer weight in this one.
Of course, when she's slimmer, her curves are going to be more noticable.0 -
Most fat people simply don't want to call themselves fat. When I was fat I didn't want to use the word either. Didn't make it any less true. But fat is such an ugly word. I can understand not wanting to be associated with it.
However calling oneself 'curvy' will not make people see you as such. In a way I see the OP's point. Why not own up to what we are?Whether we like it or not?0 -
I am 370 pounds and quite curvy. I have curves where curves shouldn't be...my curves have other curves growing on them. My rolls do not make me curvy. They just make me... rolly? Fat? Yes, they make me fat. :P I have no problem with saying "I AM FAT" because it's true. The only time I've ever been offended by being called "fat" is when I knew that I wasn't doing anything to change it. lol0
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Most fat people simply don't want to call themselves fat. When I was fat I didn't want to use the word either. Didn't make it any less true. But fat is such an ugly word. I can understand not wanting to be associated with it.
However calling oneself 'curvy' will not make people see you as such. In a way I see the OP's point. Why not own up to what we are?Whether we like it or not?
^^this
But there are so many 'nicer' terms for fat than distorting descriptions to fit your own ideals.
I mean, I can describe myself as athletic but it doesn't make it true.0 -
So. What I'm hearing is that unless you're fit, you can't use any positive adjectives about your body because it offends fit women? Also, because it tells fat women that they can feel good about themselves? Why can't fat be attractive? I know my curvy fat behind looks good, I'm here to lose weight to increase my health.
Apparently, even if I think I look fantastic, I should say stuff like:
Ohhhh! Look at how my overweight borderline obese body fills this dress!
I think a lot of you people are experiencing that crazy fatty-hate that people who lose weight have.
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No, it's don't paint yourself to be a body type you're not.
SIGH.
Fine. I'm going to ask that all women who are straight up and down start calling themselves rulers, bricks, and bananas unless they are athletic looking enough to call themselves fit. Of course I decide what's "athletic looking", so unless they're rocking a Jamie Eason they are going to be called rulers, bricks, and bananas.
Also, if your ribs are showing, we wont call you slim, we'll call you underweight. This is totally going to help you come out of your denial about being underweight and make you want to pack on the pounds. Forget being comfortable with your ribs showing while you slowly and healthily gain the weight your health requires. Obviously, again, I decide what is underweight, and since I'm fat, I've decided to be quite strict with this rule.
What other restrictions? Hmmm.
Also, I'm mandating Skinny Fat, Bulky, and all other kinds of negative words just because I am totally master of how you use your available vocabulary.
...Yeah, except I'm not because I actually like people in all body shapes and I LIKE IT WHEN THEY LIKE THEMSELVES.0 -
I knew what your meant by grossly obese, same as if someone was talking about a misunderstanding as "grossly mistaken."
The only contrbutions to the topic I have are:
1) Why are people who are offended by "grossly" so much happier with "morbidly"?
morbid [mawr-bid]
—adjective
1. suggesting an unhealthy mental state or attitude; unwholesomely gloomy, sensitive, extreme, etc.: a morbid interest in death.
2. affected by, caused by, causing, or characteristic of disease.
3. pertaining to diseased parts: morbid anatomy.
4. gruesome; grisly.
How the feck does that make you feel better about yourself? Besides it being a medical term
2) i also really dislike when obese ladies make a deal of how large their breasts are, when its only becaise they are large all over. That may be because Ive been flat chested through fat and thin ;p
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christina hendricks is not curvy...she is fat. here are pictures of her in a bathing suit. we are so used to seeing people who are morbidly obese that we think people who are fat/overweight are normal.
http://skinnyvscurvy.com/christina-hendricks/christina-hendricks-swimsuit.html
I think you've got into your head that the "Hollywood norm" is what "normal" is...Christina Hendricks is beautiful and yes, she's curvy.0 -
I am not saying 'grossly obese' as in 'ew', I am using grossly obese as in the medical term, grossly meaning extremely. Please don't jump to conclusions.
The word you're looking for is 'morbidly'.
I put that into the original post now, but I am pretty sure it's a widely used term and not derogatory.
I just wanted to say, the term grossly obese is not derogatory. Gross can also mean:
1.flagrant and extreme
It doesnt always have to mean:
2.Obscene or vulgar.
People take offense to things like this. And THIS is why society uses the term "curvy" because it makes it ok then to be grossly obese.
Thank you.
It's like, when they say gross loan, they not talking about obsecenity. I wish people would stop jumping to conclusions. I wouldn't refer to an obese person as gross other than in my head. There's no need for it.
Just an FYI - referring to them as gross 'in your head' is still a judgemental, disgusting thing for someone to do. From this I can take it that when you said 'grossly', you did mean gross, not extremely. It's not often I see someone being so blatent about being an ugly person.0 -
christina hendricks is not curvy...she is fat. here are pictures of her in a bathing suit. we are so used to seeing people who are morbidly obese that we think people who are fat/overweight are normal.
http://skinnyvscurvy.com/christina-hendricks/christina-hendricks-swimsuit.html
I think you've got into your head that the "Hollywood norm" is what "normal" is...Christina Hendricks is beautiful and yes, she's curvy.
she is in no way healthy/not fat...whatever in those bathing suit pics. she is a pretty girl but she is fat in those pics. i think it is your perception that is distorted. you honestly think those thighs are indicative of a healthy person?0 -
Shouldn't anyone who is not made up of nothing but angles be able to call themselves curvy. As log as you have one curve, you meet the requirement. The point is, yes, a lot of fat women call themselves curvy to make themselves feel better, just like people who who act like a-hole like to believe they are just being honest.
Le sigh.0 -
christina hendricks is not curvy...she is fat. here are pictures of her in a bathing suit. we are so used to seeing people who are morbidly obese that we think people who are fat/overweight are normal.
http://skinnyvscurvy.com/christina-hendricks/christina-hendricks-swimsuit.html
I think you've got into your head that the "Hollywood norm" is what "normal" is...Christina Hendricks is beautiful and yes, she's curvy.
she is in no way healthy/not fat...whatever in those bathing suit pics. she is a pretty girl but she is fat in those pics. i think it is your perception that is distorted. you honestly think those thighs are indicative of a healthy person?
Uh, yes. They're not huge. So she's not Kiera Knightly thin. Big effing deal. She still has a killer body.0 -
No, but I do find it irritating (gross, even) when people use the term 'grossly obese'.
Sorry, but if someone is 600 pounds and grossly obese then i would be grossed out. I just find people who are that size gross.
First of all, do you know how few people actually weigh 600 pounds? You weren't referring to 600 pound people and you know it. Those people never say they're "curvy." And the correct term for this, as pointed out, is MORBIDLY obese. Secondly, finding any people "gross" is cause for concern. They're PEOPLE for heaven's sake, and if you can't respect a person as a person because of how you feel about their appearance you need to assess your values because they're skewed.
Thanks for your response to that. I'm still in awe that someone would say something so rude and hateful.0 -
I seriously have to laugh. That the best you people can come up with?
Where's the snarky and high-horse response to my post? I feel so ignored...0 -
If women can't even respect other women, how do we expect men to treat us with respect? Who cares what another woman looks like and who cares what she calls herself. As long as she's happy, you need to be happy for her. It's not your problem to worry about someone who is obese and it's certainly not your place to judge her. Curvy, fat, skinny, obese, tall, short, whatever. We're all women and we all deserve to be treated like humans and to be treated with respect. If a women has rolls or if she has no hips at all, she's allowed identify with being curvy. There are no rules and it's stupid to let that offend you. Just because a fat woman thinks she's curvy, it does not mean everyone else is going to think you're fat, too.
Women have enough problems in this world without having to deal with women putting each other down on a daily basis.
Oh here we go. The whole 'you go sister' talk.
Look. I don't care if we're women. That means nothing except we were born with a vagina. If we can talk about men's bodies, we can talk about women's bodies without this turning into a feminist issue.
Women have enough problems in this world without having to deal with women putting each other down on a daily basis? Oh, because this thread is to 'attack' women. Oh, poor things. Yes, let's just change definitions and refer to everyone as curvy, just to protect those fragile women.
Give me a break, please. It irritates me. Simple as. I don't know why people are trying to make this into an analytical, sociological debate.
Maybe because some people have the intelligence to delve deeper than "it annoys me!1!1!" and when faced with an opportunity to discuss in greater depth, of course they naturally would.
This thread has a lot of body shaming, which is awful (just for the record before the OP replies with "Le sigh", I am not referring to you as such) but what I find most irritating is the ignorance of it... Saying things like
"I hate it when someone refers to someone really overweight as curvy... To me, they really don't have a shape... They're just rolly... So, when I consider myself curvy, I don't like being put in the same category as "rolly"."
...And blatantly not even knowing that could be offensive to some. It's kind of worrying.
And it's not just that. There are lots of little things that on the surface seen fine but to someone with BDD (or other disorders... Or hell, even just insecurities) can be very triggering.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not some major PC freak, I just think people need to be aware of what they say and how it could be perceived by others.
Once again, this isn't aimed at the OP, I don't believe you meant any harm in the original post, I first read it as a light hearted discussion. Unfortunately, other issues arose as the thread progressed.
Perception is a funny thing, I guess.0 -
christina hendricks is not curvy...she is fat. here are pictures of her in a bathing suit. we are so used to seeing people who are morbidly obese that we think people who are fat/overweight are normal.
http://skinnyvscurvy.com/christina-hendricks/christina-hendricks-swimsuit.html
I think you've got into your head that the "Hollywood norm" is what "normal" is...Christina Hendricks is beautiful and yes, she's curvy.
she is in no way healthy/not fat...whatever in those bathing suit pics. she is a pretty girl but she is fat in those pics. i think it is your perception that is distorted. you honestly think those thighs are indicative of a healthy person?
Uh, yes. They're not huge. So she's not Kiera Knightly thin. Big effing deal. She still has a killer body.
they are huge. you prove my point that we are so used to seeing morbidly obese people that when we see people who are just obese they look normal. those thighs are in no way normal on a person with a healthy BF%.0 -
I knew what your meant by grossly obese, same as if someone was talking about a misunderstanding as "grossly mistaken."
The only contrbutions to the topic I have are:
1) Why are people who are offended by "grossly" so much happier with "morbidly"?
morbid [mawr-bid]
—adjective
1. suggesting an unhealthy mental state or attitude; unwholesomely gloomy, sensitive, extreme, etc.: a morbid interest in death.
2. affected by, caused by, causing, or characteristic of disease.
3. pertaining to diseased parts: morbid anatomy.
4. gruesome; grisly.
How the feck does that make you feel better about yourself? Besides it being a medical term
2) i also really dislike when obese ladies make a deal of how large their breasts are, when its only becaise they are large all over. That may be because Ive been flat chested through fat and thin ;p
Edited for my bad typos, oop!
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christina hendricks is not curvy...she is fat. here are pictures of her in a bathing suit. we are so used to seeing people who are morbidly obese that we think people who are fat/overweight are normal.
http://skinnyvscurvy.com/christina-hendricks/christina-hendricks-swimsuit.html
I think you've got into your head that the "Hollywood norm" is what "normal" is...Christina Hendricks is beautiful and yes, she's curvy.
she is in no way healthy/not fat...whatever in those bathing suit pics. she is a pretty girl but she is fat in those pics. i think it is your perception that is distorted. you honestly think those thighs are indicative of a healthy person?
Uh, yes. They're not huge. So she's not Kiera Knightly thin. Big effing deal. She still has a killer body.
they are huge. you prove my point that we are so used to seeing morbidly obese people that when we see people who are just obese they look normal. those thighs are in no way normal on a person with a healthy BF%.
Huge? Seriously dude?? You prove MY point that you think all women should have itty bitty bodies. Could she stand to lose a few pounds? Meh, probably...but she is by no means FAT.0
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