I am annoyed with the anti-lady-muscle posts.

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  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    I'd like to see one post about women lifting that doesn't distil down to 'I'd do her vs I wouldn't do her".


    *sigh* So sick of this idea that women can be based around doable or not and that's it- she has no purpose other than as a hot pocket for whoever wants her. As if the worst insult is to have someone decree them 'undoable'- and to impressionable young adults reading this- they believe it because it keeps getting pushed on them.

    ^^^This X 1000

    I think this is a little overboard...I mean, I recognize that you feel this way, I...as a man, simply don't agree. Are women objectified in todays society? Sure. Are men objectified in todays society? You bet.

    If you don't believe me, go check out the 'shirtless men' thread.

    :blushing:

    Beauty period is objectified in todays society. More seriously though...I think it's because women are more sensitive to perceived implications than men are...that they take things wrong. Even when men flat out SAY 'I'd do her'...most of them would be scared to death had they the actual chance, and the ones blustering are usually the most terrified.

    Also, as much as I like sex (and, I do), never...in my life, would I ever consider any woman 'a hot pocket for whoever wants her, unless she had already proven by her actions she was. Additionally, I'd likely break any man I felt were truly doing so to a woman in my presence. This has happened in the past.
  • Z_I_L_L_A
    Z_I_L_L_A Posts: 2,399 Member
    Lighten up its a joke, I think women with muscles are beautiful too, I just don't want to be beaten up if they rage on me for swiping one of their 45's without asking first. (Disclaimer) In know way is Zilla responsible for his comments on this post for he is under the influence of the peanut butter blue M&Ms.
  • firstnamekaren
    firstnamekaren Posts: 274 Member
    This one annoys me the most. Why can't we redefine what women are "meant" to look like? Why do we have to appear weak? We can go to college now, have jobs, pay bills, but we can't be strong? We can't open our own jars of pickles, or pick up 50lb 6 year olds, swing 20lb sledge hammers as a seismic source, load full coolers into trucks, or fill out the *kitten* in a pair of work trousers?

    PREACH!!!!!!
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    I am pro whatever people want to look like lol. If being cut makes you happy awesome, if not awesome. Let's just be healthy and stop talking badly about each other. It annoys me. =]

    This isn't about being cut =(. It's about being strong...add 5% bodyfat to the most ripped (meaning cut) woman you ever saw, and you'll be SHOCKED at how incredibly feminine and shaped she is.

    I just don't get why it's anyones business what other people look like. Mind your body and not others. This site it supposed to help people, not tell them that you don't like their body style.

    This thread was started BECAUSE of all the trolls bashing women who lift. Please...I know your heart is in the right place, but go complain to them. You'll NEVER see one of these ladies bashing someone thin, or fat, or anything else...without being provoked first.

    Perhaps not bashing, but I've seen plenty of "why wouldn't you want to lift heavy" or "why would you want to be skinny fat" and similar messages over and over again (and the responses are never appreciated even though people are being honest about their preferences not to have a certain body type). That is also criticizing someone else's personal choice about how they want their body to look. It might be more subtle, but it's not really any less rude. Now, making a declarative statement like, "This is why I lift heavy..." with awesome pics after, THAT'S empowering. But the other way is just veiled criticism of others.

    ETA: and just saw a post about the "turkey arm test" and it "not being pretty" - yep, no bashing here. (Apologies to the turkey arm poster, as I agree, mine aren't pretty, either, lol, just making a point).

    Note...I said 'without provocation'. These women have been provoked...repeatedly.

    Additionally, I disagree that your suggested examples are 'veiled criticism'. This is the internet, everyone needs to grow a thicker skin...but if you'd been a part of the thread I was yesterday (about what weights to use to 'tone'...wow), you'd be a bit more understanding of why this thread has come to be.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I am pro whatever people want to look like lol. If being cut makes you happy awesome, if not awesome. Let's just be healthy and stop talking badly about each other. It annoys me. =]

    This isn't about being cut =(. It's about being strong...add 5% bodyfat to the most ripped (meaning cut) woman you ever saw, and you'll be SHOCKED at how incredibly feminine and shaped she is.

    I just don't get why it's anyones business what other people look like. Mind your body and not others. This site it supposed to help people, not tell them that you don't like their body style.


    huh?...wha?...

    Where do you see them saying they did not like someone's body style?
  • FoodieGal09
    FoodieGal09 Posts: 198 Member
    My "New rules" book is en route. I am so grateful to the women on here who brought it to my attention and can't wait to get started. Before coming on this site I probably would have been "anti-muscle" (that sounds nonsensical to me now) but I think I was just horribly misinformed. There are probably a lot of newbies on here who don't have a clue about the benefits of weightlifting and these topics can open a whole new avenue for them. Of course it's not going to be for everyone and there is nothing wrong with that. But I, personally, think you ladies look great and hope to join the ranks some day. Keep up the good work and pictures. Lots of pictures!
  • zaithyr
    zaithyr Posts: 482 Member
    I have at least 100 lbs to lose- I would KILL to see some muscles on me instead of flab! I have seen some women body builders that do look kind of masculine to me but at least they are fit and I'm sure they are proud of the way they look. Confidence to me is beautiful!
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    I have at least 100 lbs to lose- I would KILL to see some muscles on me instead of flab! I have seen some women body builders that do look kind of masculine to me but at least they are fit and I'm sure they are proud of the way they look. Confidence to me is beautiful!

    Heavy strength training will burn that fat more quickly than any other form of exercise.

    Additionally, if in fact you ever feel you are 'too masculine' (and I do believe it's possible, don't misunderstand me)...losing muscle is far, far easier than gaining it.
  • FlyeredUp
    FlyeredUp Posts: 632 Member
    I have at least 100 lbs to lose- I would KILL to see some muscles on me instead of flab! I have seen some women body builders that do look kind of masculine to me but at least they are fit and I'm sure they are proud of the way they look. Confidence to me is beautiful!

    Heavy strength training will burn that fat more quickly than any other form of exercise.

    Additionally, if in fact you ever feel you are 'too masculine' (and I do believe it's possible, don't misunderstand me)...losing muscle is far, far easier than gaining it.
    No form of exercise including heavy lifting burns fat!! Exercise burns calories thats it. eating at a deficit burns fat!! Please have a clue about what your talking about if your going to give advice. Thanks!!
  • Z_I_L_L_A
    Z_I_L_L_A Posts: 2,399 Member
    I joke a lot, so laugh and quit taking things so serious, laugh a little. I love muscle on women. As a matter of fact I am training my workout partner in power lifting.
  • Cindy311
    Cindy311 Posts: 780 Member
    There is nothing more beautiful than a strong body, whether it is a man or woman.
  • MrsLVF
    MrsLVF Posts: 787 Member
    Check out www.BuffMother.com I think she is hot. Also on bodybuilding.com there are many buff ladies that are just stunning. So ladies go for it!

    Did you check out the gallery? There is a good representation of many different strong women.....

    http://buffmother.com/team-buffmother-gallery
  • Z_I_L_L_A
    Z_I_L_L_A Posts: 2,399 Member
    There is nothing more beautiful than a strong body, whether it is a man or woman.

    ^Very true
  • runs4zen
    runs4zen Posts: 769 Member
    Holy crap that's an amazing butt!

    Right? Time to increase my mileage! :bigsmile:
  • UrbanRunner81
    UrbanRunner81 Posts: 1,207 Member
    So stop it. Thanks.
    ^^^
    yeah that.

    :heart:
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    I have at least 100 lbs to lose- I would KILL to see some muscles on me instead of flab! I have seen some women body builders that do look kind of masculine to me but at least they are fit and I'm sure they are proud of the way they look. Confidence to me is beautiful!

    Heavy strength training will burn that fat more quickly than any other form of exercise.

    Additionally, if in fact you ever feel you are 'too masculine' (and I do believe it's possible, don't misunderstand me)...losing muscle is far, far easier than gaining it.
    NO form of exercise burns fat!! Exercise burns calories thats it. eating at a deficit burns fat!!

    Oooookkkk...let me rephrase. No form of exercise promotes hormonal response that tells your body to choose fat as an energy source over muscle more than strength training.

    Sheesh.

    Additionally, eating at a deficit doesn't burn fat, it tells your body to burn ITSELF (yes, fat is part of YOU...so is the muscle eating at a deficit burns too). How you exercise has definite effects on what parts of YOU your body chooses to burn.

    Happy now?
    Please have a clue about what your talking about if your going to give advice. Thanks!!

    Take your own advice, fyvm.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Holy crap that's an amazing butt!

    Right? Time to increase my mileage! :bigsmile:

    Why does everyone assume that chick is a runner? All the miles in the world won't give you her rear lol.
  • FlyeredUp
    FlyeredUp Posts: 632 Member
    YES Thanks!!
  • RunHardBeStrong
    RunHardBeStrong Posts: 33,069 Member
    Nice thread, but needs pics

    female-sprinter.jpg
    Damn I need to be running if my butt will look like that!! :bigsmile:

    Ummmm... how many more miles do I need to run before MY butt looks like that? That is one perky bootay!

    none. start doing squats, dead lifts, and lunges. start yesterday. use heavy weights.

    ^ Truth! My butt is no where near this yet but getting there...at 36 my butt looks better than it did at 18 all because I started lifting heavy weights!
  • doughnutwretch
    doughnutwretch Posts: 498 Member
    SMH...Isn't it ironic there are anti-lady-muscle posters hatin on the anti-anti-lady-muscle post? (Say that 5 times fast, whydontcha)

    And it's usually the ones who are carrying around an excess of fat. Go fig
  • missym357
    missym357 Posts: 210 Member
    It's so common for women to fear bulking up from any sort of weight training that I think it's pretty cool that the idea that you will not bulk without sustained effort keeps getting hammered home around here. Yeah, it's probably annoying to those who don't want to hear it, but the fact of the matter is, you will probably get some pretty damn awesome benefits from lifting no matter what your goals are. Looking like a female body builder (or a fitness competitor for that matter) isn't going to happen accidentally, so if you don't want to look like that, guess what? ....You probably won't!
  • IronmanPanda
    IronmanPanda Posts: 2,083 Member
    Holy crap that's an amazing butt!

    Right? Time to increase my mileage! :bigsmile:

    Why does everyone assume that chick is a runner? All the miles in the world won't give you her rear lol.

    Like I said, i'm pretty sure she's a high jumper.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    Why does everyone assume that chick is a runner? All the miles in the world won't give you her rear lol.

    The image is titled "female-sprinter.jpg."

    I agree that all the running in the world ALONE won't do that, but you can have a pretty rockin' tush and still run. But she is a sprinter. A little googling said she's Alenka Bikar.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alenka_Bikar

    So if you want that badonk, don't up your mileage, up your speed!
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
    Holy crap that's an amazing butt!

    Right? Time to increase my mileage! :bigsmile:

    Why does everyone assume that chick is a runner? All the miles in the world won't give you her rear lol.

    She's a sprinter - Alenka Bikar

    or was, she's retired now

    EDIT : Doh, LorinaLynn was too fast. :)
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Why does everyone assume that chick is a runner? All the miles in the world won't give you her rear lol.

    The image is titled "female-sprinter.jpg."

    I agree that all the running in the world ALONE won't do that, but you can have a pretty rockin' tush and still run. But she is a sprinter. A little googling said she's Alenka Bikar.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alenka_Bikar

    Right, I guess I just rarely equate sprinting with running lol. Those women work for explosive power, and that's not gained by long distance running.
  • FlyeredUp
    FlyeredUp Posts: 632 Member
    I have at least 100 lbs to lose- I would KILL to see some muscles on me instead of flab! I have seen some women body builders that do look kind of masculine to me but at least they are fit and I'm sure they are proud of the way they look. Confidence to me is beautiful!

    Heavy strength training will burn that fat more quickly than any other form of exercise.

    Additionally, if in fact you ever feel you are 'too masculine' (and I do believe it's possible, don't misunderstand me)...losing muscle is far, far easier than gaining it.
    NO form of exercise burns fat!! Exercise burns calories thats it. eating at a deficit burns fat!!

    Oooookkkk...let me rephrase. No form of exercise promotes hormonal response that tells your body to choose fat as an energy source over muscle more than strength training.

    Sheesh.

    Additionally, eating at a deficit doesn't burn fat, it tells your body to burn ITSELF (yes, fat is part of YOU...so is the muscle eating at a deficit burns too). How you exercise has definite effects on what parts of YOU your body chooses to burn.

    Happy now?
    Please have a clue about what your talking about if your going to give advice. Thanks!!

    Take your own advice, fyvm.
    Dont need to tak my own advice, Read my post prior to my post to you!!
    Your body wont burn fat by heavy strength training!! Period!! And if your not eating at a deficit it doesnt matter your body wont burn anything, LM. or fat!
  • thistimeismytime
    thistimeismytime Posts: 711 Member
    I gotta be honest. It doesn't bother me. <shrugs shoulders> There's room in the world for all different types of people...skinny, fat, skinny-fat, muscular, super-muscular...whatever. I love my muscles, but I don't expect everyone else to love them. I'm just gonna do my thing, regardless of what anyone says. :glasses:
  • JetMechRN
    JetMechRN Posts: 5 Member
    Flex those muscles, ladies!!
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    I have at least 100 lbs to lose- I would KILL to see some muscles on me instead of flab! I have seen some women body builders that do look kind of masculine to me but at least they are fit and I'm sure they are proud of the way they look. Confidence to me is beautiful!

    Heavy strength training will burn that fat more quickly than any other form of exercise.

    Additionally, if in fact you ever feel you are 'too masculine' (and I do believe it's possible, don't misunderstand me)...losing muscle is far, far easier than gaining it.
    NO form of exercise burns fat!! Exercise burns calories thats it. eating at a deficit burns fat!!

    Oooookkkk...let me rephrase. No form of exercise promotes hormonal response that tells your body to choose fat as an energy source over muscle more than strength training.

    Sheesh.

    Additionally, eating at a deficit doesn't burn fat, it tells your body to burn ITSELF (yes, fat is part of YOU...so is the muscle eating at a deficit burns too). How you exercise has definite effects on what parts of YOU your body chooses to burn.

    Happy now?
    Please have a clue about what your talking about if your going to give advice. Thanks!!

    Take your own advice, fyvm.
    Dont need to tak my own advice, Read my post prior to my post to you!!
    Your body wont burn fat by heavy strength training!! Period!! And if your not eating at a deficit it doesnt matter your body wont burn anything, LM. or fat!

    Sure you do. You said 'Eating at a deficit burns fat'. That's incorrect, you missed a few steps, and left out the other things it burns. Eating at a deficit is what gives your body the poke in the *kitten* it needs to begin breaking down soft tissue for energy.

    Kind of like me saying 'No other exercise burns more fat than strength training'. I left out that actually, no other exercise sends the triggers to your body to produce growth hormone which is a road sign to your body to maintain lean muscle, and BURN FAT instead.

    So, if you're going to jump up my *kitten* for leaving something out, take your own effing advice.

    Now, can we please get back to these ladies topic?

    Thanks.

    Edit ~ I have no idea what your other post said...I went back two pages...no post.
  • tracy1031
    tracy1031 Posts: 36
    Muscles and strength are great, ya just don't wanna look like these ladies(?)... http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Photos-Women-bodybuilders-compete-at-Emerald-Cup-148395585.html?tab=gallery&c=y&img=17
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