Want better results???? Ditch the elliptical and......
walldancer
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hit the step mill instead. Non jarring, more effective, actually simiuates USABLE REALISTIC movement. When I used to train, I slowly converted many a soccer mom to the step mill. I can't tell you how many of those women would brag about how they could go for an hour on the elliptical and burn SOOOO many calories....um hmmmmm.
5 minutes on the step mill at a level 5 and they were panting and DONE.
Elliptical is a great start for poeple who are unfit or elderly. Once you're past the "newbie" phase of exercise however, it's time to step it up..literally!!
I know I'm gonna get a hundred replies of offended people who just swear by the elliptical. For some reason that machine has a cult following (probalby because it's easy and shows huge calorie burns..which are false..but that is another thread). But...there is a reason that very few trainers actually use them THEMSELVES. It's unnatural movement, it's too easy to wimp out on it, and it's just simply not enough once you hit a more advanced level of fitness.
Flame away...most trainers are on board with me on this one. Step mill. GO THERE...
5 minutes on the step mill at a level 5 and they were panting and DONE.
Elliptical is a great start for poeple who are unfit or elderly. Once you're past the "newbie" phase of exercise however, it's time to step it up..literally!!
I know I'm gonna get a hundred replies of offended people who just swear by the elliptical. For some reason that machine has a cult following (probalby because it's easy and shows huge calorie burns..which are false..but that is another thread). But...there is a reason that very few trainers actually use them THEMSELVES. It's unnatural movement, it's too easy to wimp out on it, and it's just simply not enough once you hit a more advanced level of fitness.
Flame away...most trainers are on board with me on this one. Step mill. GO THERE...
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What does the step mill look like I would like to try it? Sorry I go to the gym but I dont know the name of most of the machines there.0
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I agree the elliptical and MPF show crazy high amounts of calorites burned. I use the elluptical on my off day for training for marathons. The stair machines are killer. Too much for "rest" days for me. I would also say running burns more calories.0
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Step Mill is BRUTAL. I love that thing, but I feel like I need an HRM when I'm on it. I'm definitely burning more than the machine is telling me. I'm sweating and panting after 15 minutes.0
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There is no one modality that is best for everyone. What you do is not nearly as important as how you do it.
Training effects are specific to the type of training being performed. If one is not experienced at doing the stepmill, it will naturally feel much harder at first compared to what they were doing. The stepmill movement places a lot of focus on the quads and so perceived exertion is higher due to localized muscle fatigue.0 -
I love the Stepmill, I burn a ton of calories on it, but I don't have a gym membership and they're too expensive.0
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I AGREE...
the stair machine is THE BEST! I am drenching in sweat after 10minutes and can barely make it through my 25min... every trainer i know is a firm believer in the stair climber0 -
I totally agree. I thought elliptical was giving me the best burn and I was not losing weight. Few weeks later I jumped on the treadmill and started losing weight. After that I did some online research . The studies I found said the elliptical machine is doing most of the work.0
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I don't think I know what this machine is, can you describe it. I will check next time I get to my gym if they have one! Im more a tredmill type person for cardio cause I run/walk for HIIT.0
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I have never done the elliptical and I have to admit...I think it looks pretty sissified!!!
I do steps every single day. It works....really well.
I at least do 40 minutes and can go 80. I throw in all these fancy moves and let me tell u it is an insane workout and I'm usually dripping sweat in the most unatractive way possible by the time I'm done...it's actually pretty comical!!0 -
I am not a fan of the stair step because, well... it is a bit too difficult for me. In other words, I agree that it is far better than elliptical, but I like a nice medium of treadmill/outdoor running.0
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LOL I had an elliptical. Was great for hanging up wet towels after swimming
Hated using it. 3 minutes and my knees HURT. Not ache, but down right HURT.
Sold the elliptical, joined a gym, and started the treadmill. I LOVE the treadmill.
What's the Step Mill and how is it used?
So I'll join you on the anti-elliptical band wagon
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Well my gym doesn't have step mills and I can't run because of injury so it's either the bikes which do nothing, or the elliptical. As long as you have an elliptical that takes your heart rate, and weight they are pretty accurate in calories burnt. Never go by the MFP numbers. They are always about 20% higher than they should.0
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I use my elliptical all the time, no newbie or elderly here, LOL! Love it and burns alot of calories......0
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Do both. I do. I also run on the treadmill, bike, and do a half hour on the rowing machine. Diversity is best.0
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Ditch the elliptical. Ditch the gym. Get some kettlebells, a jump rope, and a bike. But if you are going to keep wasting money on monthly gym dues, then yes; the stair mill will kick your buttocks.0
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I just soaked in what you said. I can go for an hour no problem on an elliptical even going at a high speed the entire time. so yeah, I know that it gets easy and then you try and run and it wipes you out.
I am with you on this one. that's why i started couch to 5k because I have gotten all I can out of the elliptical. it is a great place to start for a low impact workout though.0 -
I too think the stairmaster is a much better work out. I believe it is a gift from the devil : )0
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hahaha Im one of those can do the elliptical for hours and hours and the step mill or i call it stair master.. lol.. 5 mins and im dyinng you are soo right !!!!!!!!0
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The stair climber feels like it's burning more calories but you get a higher reading on the elliptical. I do about 15-20 minutes on the stair stepper and I'm drenched in sweat. I don't even break a sweat on the elliptical until I'm about 30 minutes in..0
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My only issue with the step mill is that I have bad knees and it's really easy to step wrong and mess up my knee for a week.0
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(1) Cannot afford gym fees; (2) Cost of one of those machines is OVER $2,000 and up to around $5,000; 3) I moved from my lovely home to this nice two story apt. building for those over age 55. I'm on the 2nd floor and our building has an elevator BUT... I'm taking the stairs a lot more these days & wearing my FitBit.
(4) Climbing the stairs, regularly, for fitness is FREE
(5) I keep my car in the parking garage under the building. Now, when I come in with groceries, I don't use the elevator to haul them upstairs in one trip. I carry them up and make as many trips with the bags as necessary. To begin with, carrying a heavier load up the stairs helps burn more calories AND.... I'm getting my flights of stairs in for fitness for the day.
(6) I'll be 75 in early December this year. What's your excuse?0 -
Oh I see! It looks just like an escalator! That WOULD kick butt! I've never seen one of those but I wish my apartment complex's fitness center had one!0
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Not a fan of most ellipticals -- but I love the AMT machines (adaptive motion trainers) -- they feel muchmore realistic to me.
The stair thingies hurt my knees ... the AMT machines done. But in reality, I'd rather do zumba or kickboxing than either of them 0 -
yesssssss stairmaster > elliptical
stairmaster FTW!0 -
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Yeah, I agree...there is something about the stairs.. even though they show up less amount of calories burned..I sweat there like crazy..0
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I was always under the impression that the stair master builds butt and thigh muscles. I certainly don't need any of those... You're just using your legs to walk up stairs. Wouldn't a workout that worked multiple areas be best like with running (or the terrifying elliptical)?0
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Well my gym doesn't have step mills and I can't run because of injury so it's either the bikes which do nothing, or the elliptical. As long as you have an elliptical that takes your heart rate, and weight they are pretty accurate in calories burnt. Never go by the MFP numbers. They are always about 20% higher than they should.
I've seen other people say the MFP numbers are high, but I used them because my HRM numbers were always higher. I lost my weight using the MFP numbers, so I don't think they can be too far off.0 -
(1) Cannot afford gym fees; (2) Cost of one of those machines is OVER $2,000 and up to around $5,000; 3) I moved from my lovely home to this nice two story apt. building for those over age 55. I'm on the 2nd floor and our building has an elevator BUT... I'm taking the stairs a lot more these days & wearing my FitBit.
(4) Climbing the stairs, regularly, for fitness is FREE
(5) I keep my car in the parking garage under the building. Now, when I come in with groceries, I don't use the elevator to haul them upstairs in one trip. I carry them up and make as many trips with the bags as necessary. To begin with, carrying a heavier load up the stairs helps burn more calories AND.... I'm getting my flights of stairs in for fitness for the day.
(6) I'll be 75 in early December this year. What's your excuse?
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