"Old Fashioned" or "Traditional" gender roles

Jb8885

I believe when a guy says hes old fashioned that it means he has a lot of respect for women. thats he's polite and doesn't look at women like meat. that he wants to to take things slow and really get to know a girl. as far as paying, id say def on the first date, and at least offer on the second...if it was me, on the second id offer to split it...but thats bc im to nice and would feel bad that he kept spending money on me lol

hesn92

If I saw an ad where a man said that I wouldn't be interested. To me it means the man is the head of the household and supports his family financially and the woman stays home... nothing wrong with that, it's just not for me.

crisanderson27

As far as women's rights and yadda yadda, again this is my opinion. If the women would rather work, so be it. Nothing wrong with that. I do know alot of men who like to stay home and play the non traditional roles. If you love someone, you'll know it because you just want them happy. That's why traditional roles don't really matter now.

I actually wonder if... gasp... men might even have it a little harder than women in this respect. It's not just about a woman being a truck driver or CEO if she wants to, it's also about a man being the SAHP or nurse or hairdresser.

Another very observant post...and while I don't know many men that want to do this (at least outwardly), I do know that the ones that do...are often looked down on. Not always (for me it's to each their own), and not always in big ways...but it certainly happens.

Oddly enough, the few I do know...are very masculine type guys, and it doesn't bother them in the least that they're looked down on for it. They are CERTAINLY not the types that most people would have the courage to say it directly to lol.

I'll just say it this way...they have LOTS of time to work out =p.

victoria4321

As far as women's rights and yadda yadda, again this is my opinion. If the women would rather work, so be it. Nothing wrong with that. I do know alot of men who like to stay home and play the non traditional roles. If you love someone, you'll know it because you just want them happy. That's why traditional roles don't really matter now.

I actually wonder if... gasp... men might even have it a little harder than women in this respect. It's not just about a woman being a truck driver or CEO if she wants to, it's also about a man being the SAHP or nurse or hairdresser.

Stay at home dads are great. When I started hs years ago my dad stayed home and my mom went to work. They're both retired now but it worked out pretty well. My mom wanted to work but my parents are not into the whole baby sitter thing since they don't trust strangers with their kids.

My dad still did all the "manly" stuff. Like he always fixed up around the house, worked on cars, and definitely kept us all in line. Even though they had other investments and technically weren't living off of one income, I'd still consider him to be a stay at home parent. I kind of feel like some people will say that it doesn't count because of that.

I do remember some of my friends finding it weird, but its possible they were just curious since it isn't common.

crisanderson27

As far as women's rights and yadda yadda, again this is my opinion. If the women would rather work, so be it. Nothing wrong with that. I do know alot of men who like to stay home and play the non traditional roles. If you love someone, you'll know it because you just want them happy. That's why traditional roles don't really matter now.

I actually wonder if... gasp... men might even have it a little harder than women in this respect. It's not just about a woman being a truck driver or CEO if she wants to, it's also about a man being the SAHP or nurse or hairdresser.

Stay at home dads are great. When I started hs years ago my dad stayed home and my mom went to work. They're both retired now but it worked out pretty well. My mom wanted to work but my parents are not into the whole baby sitter thing since they don't trust strangers with their kids.

My dad still did all the "manly" stuff. Like he always fixed up around the house, worked on cars, and definitely kept us all in line. Even though they had other investments and technically weren't living off of one income, I'd still consider him to be a stay at home parent. I kind of feel like some people will say that it doesn't count because of that.

I do remember some of my friends finding it weird, but its possible they were just curious since it isn't common.

I technically don't feel there's anything wrong with this, assuming the guy isn't lazing away the days doing nothing. There was a long period a couple years ago when there was no work to be had, where I stayed home and my sons mother worked as a pharmacy tech at a hospital. We lived on some of the savings I'd put away, her income, and money I made bladesmithing (like blacksmithing, only...knives etc...you know...hammer, forge, anvil...there's a picture in my profile) at home. I loved it...I had the freedom to pursue a hobby/profession I loved, brought in some money (not as much as she did at the time), and was able to make sure the kids had care, that wasn't a stranger as you said. Technically I wasn't a 'stay at home Dad' either I suppose (I never looked at myself that way)...but many people thought I was.

What's funny, is prior to losing my construction company (economy), I was the one that made all the money. My ex never worked a day in her life before that job at the hospital.

Nataliaho

Oddly enough, the few I do know...are very masculine type guys, and it doesn't bother them in the least that they're looked down on for it. They are CERTAINLY not the types that most people would have the courage to say it directly to lol.

hmmmm chicken or egg thing I think... I wonder if it is precisely because they are comfortable with their own masculinity that they've been more comfortable in taking that role. I know that there are many things about my husband which on paper, in isolation, don't sound particularly 'manly'. He loves to cook, he loves clothes... the man has a collection of bow-ties with matching pocket squares and blue suede shoes:) But the reality is at 6'5". 100kg and with a boof-head, he just simply couldn't come off as anything but masculine... I think if we have kids we'll proabbly both have a go at being the SAHP and see who likes it better:)

victoria4321

Oddly enough, the few I do know...are very masculine type guys, and it doesn't bother them in the least that they're looked down on for it. They are CERTAINLY not the types that most people would have the courage to say it directly to lol.

hmmmm chicken or egg thing I think... I wonder if it is precisely because they are comfortable with their own masculinity that they've been more comfortable in taking that role. I know that there are many things about my husband which on paper, in isolation, don't sound particularly 'manly'. He loves to cook, he loves clothes... the man has a collection of bow-ties with matching pocket squares and blue suede shoes:) But the reality is at 6'5". 100kg and with a boof-head, he just simply couldn't come off as anything but masculine... I think if we have kids we'll proabbly both have a go at being the SAHP and see who likes it better:)

That's definitely a good plan I think. There's no reason both parents can't take turns staying home at different stages in life. My dad loves to cook too. I actually think a lot of guys do when they're good at it.

christine24t

Oddly enough, the few I do know...are very masculine type guys, and it doesn't bother them in the least that they're looked down on for it. They are CERTAINLY not the types that most people would have the courage to say it directly to lol.

hmmmm chicken or egg thing I think... I wonder if it is precisely because they are comfortable with their own masculinity that they've been more comfortable in taking that role. I know that there are many things about my husband which on paper, in isolation, don't sound particularly 'manly'. He loves to cook, he loves clothes... the man has a collection of bow-ties with matching pocket squares and blue suede shoes:) But the reality is at 6'5". 100kg and with a boof-head, he just simply couldn't come off as anything but masculine... I think if we have kids we'll proabbly both have a go at being the SAHP and see who likes it better:)

That's definitely a good plan I think. There's no reason both parents can't take turns staying home at different stages in life. My dad loves to cook too. I actually think a lot of guys do when they're good at it.

My parents work opposite shifts and have my whole life. Loved having a mom during the day and a dad at night....it was the best of both worlds! I never had to go to daycare or have babysitters, and there was always a parent for activities.

crisanderson27

Oddly enough, the few I do know...are very masculine type guys, and it doesn't bother them in the least that they're looked down on for it. They are CERTAINLY not the types that most people would have the courage to say it directly to lol.

hmmmm chicken or egg thing I think... I wonder if it is precisely because they are comfortable with their own masculinity that they've been more comfortable in taking that role. I know that there are many things about my husband which on paper, in isolation, don't sound particularly 'manly'. He loves to cook, he loves clothes... the man has a collection of bow-ties with matching pocket squares and blue suede shoes:) But the reality is at 6'5". 100kg and with a boof-head, he just simply couldn't come off as anything but masculine... I think if we have kids we'll proabbly both have a go at being the SAHP and see who likes it better:)

That's definitely a good plan I think. There's no reason both parents can't take turns staying home at different stages in life. My dad loves to cook too. I actually think a lot of guys do when they're good at it.

Growing up on a ranch...you learn to cook, man or woman...and personally, I love it as well. My parents used to have us over regularly, for me to cook dinner lol.

I also agree that this isn't a bad way to go about things. My grandparents for example...my grandpa worked the ranch, and later in life the farm (basically stay at home, if 'home' was a bit bigger than the typical concept for one), and my grandmother worked various jobs. Partially for their sanity, and partially to help support the day to day things between seasonal paydays.

*shrug*

But I can guarantee you...when my grandparents were courting, she never paid for a single solitary thing

Nataliaho

Oddly enough, the few I do know...are very masculine type guys, and it doesn't bother them in the least that they're looked down on for it. They are CERTAINLY not the types that most people would have the courage to say it directly to lol.

hmmmm chicken or egg thing I think... I wonder if it is precisely because they are comfortable with their own masculinity that they've been more comfortable in taking that role. I know that there are many things about my husband which on paper, in isolation, don't sound particularly 'manly'. He loves to cook, he loves clothes... the man has a collection of bow-ties with matching pocket squares and blue suede shoes:) But the reality is at 6'5". 100kg and with a boof-head, he just simply couldn't come off as anything but masculine... I think if we have kids we'll proabbly both have a go at being the SAHP and see who likes it better:)

That's definitely a good plan I think. There's no reason both parents can't take turns staying home at different stages in life. My dad loves to cook too. I actually think a lot of guys do when they're good at it.

Growing up on a ranch...you learn to cook, man or woman...and personally, I love it as well. My parents used to have us over regularly, for me to cook dinner lol.

I also agree that this isn't a bad way to go about things. My grandparents for example...my grandpa worked the ranch, and later in life the farm (basically stay at home, if 'home' was a bit bigger than the typical concept for one), and my grandmother worked various jobs. Partially for their sanity, and partially to help support the day to day things between seasonal paydays.

*shrug*

But I can guarantee you...when my grandparents were courting, she never paid for a single solitary thing

HA, totally!! When my great-grandfather was courting my great-grandmother she was already a widow with 3 kids. He tried to charm her apparently and she told him where to go. So he turned up at her place every day for a week with something they needed. First a load of wood, then a couple dozen eggs etc until eventually she agreed to 'step out' with him

crisanderson27

Oddly enough, the few I do know...are very masculine type guys, and it doesn't bother them in the least that they're looked down on for it. They are CERTAINLY not the types that most people would have the courage to say it directly to lol.

hmmmm chicken or egg thing I think... I wonder if it is precisely because they are comfortable with their own masculinity that they've been more comfortable in taking that role. I know that there are many things about my husband which on paper, in isolation, don't sound particularly 'manly'. He loves to cook, he loves clothes... the man has a collection of bow-ties with matching pocket squares and blue suede shoes:) But the reality is at 6'5". 100kg and with a boof-head, he just simply couldn't come off as anything but masculine... I think if we have kids we'll proabbly both have a go at being the SAHP and see who likes it better:)

I definitely agree that it's because they're secure in their own masculinity. I said 'oddly' because its atypical. It also gives them time to workout, and maintain an eating style that would be difficult to maintain otherwise. Others were forced into that role by the construction industry...and it's more of a temporary thing.

Sunshine_and_Puppies

Doesn't this mean I please you sexually and then make you a sammich and bring you a beer?

Thats what I'm talkin bout. This here's my style.

Sunshine_and_Puppies

In terms of jobs, chores, etc...doesn't matter.

But I want my man to cry less than I do, to weigh more than I do, and to know when to take charge in the sack. :devil:

Hell yeah! This is a good thread.