This is a weight loss board
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Have a great day my fellow lab rats!!
This made me laugh! A lot of these threads make me think that someone somewhere is doing a study on how easily it is to get everyone's panties in a twist. Yes I do get annoyed and irritated at what some of the posts say, but I ignore those, I don't waste time commenting. I only comment when I have something helpful to say or i've seen a hilarious comment like this. Plus even if I had a question, i'd be hesitant to post it to the world of mfp, I may get my head chewed off I don't word it correctly.
Just a note: Overall i've learned so much from a lot of people on here.
And OP, you rant about something you'll get rants back, take what everyones saying and either apply to your goals or dont. You can make the decision. No one is holding a gun to your head saying "take measurements or else". "Or back away from the scale!" The measuring tape is just another tool to see how well you are doing to help from getting frustrated and giving up. Best of Luck to you.0 -
Well...good luck to you then. However, it all goes hand in hand....0
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This was a great post. I am encouraged that more meaningful ways of measuring our health are starting to gain traction, especially in the insurance industry.
I work in the records office of a family practice, so I deal with this issue and insurance companies on a daily basis. While they do take your BMI into consideration, it is only ONE factor. In fact, it is very rare that they call me looking for a patient's most recent BMI. They invariably ask for most recent lipid levels, blood sugar, blood pressure, etc... They also read your office visit notes. If your doctor says you're healthy (inspite of what your BMI may be), they see that. However, if your BMI says you're obese, your lipid levels are through the roof, your BP is sky high, your blood sugar is too high, and your doctor says you've got health issues due to excess weight/obesity, then, yes, they're going to tell you to reduce your BMI/weight. BMI is based on your height, weight, and age. It is NOT the most accurate way to determine healthy weight. I think more and more healthcare providers are recognizing this fact, and I think it's only a matter of time before it is not used as a standard measurement anymore. Regardless of what the insurance company or the BMI charts say, the primary goal should always be to get HEALTHY. If you create healthy habits, the weightloss WILL happen, and it's not a matter of "if", but "when". It just takes longer for some people than for others. When people suggest for you to take measurements, they're just trying to show you that you are losing FAT, even if you're not losing POUNDS.0 -
I want my BMI lower too but you should not post on Internet forum if there are answers that you don't want. Posting on the Internet is an invitation for a variety of responses. If you wanted a more specific direction of advice for your weight loss, then you should have consulted with your physician.0
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For ****'s sake0
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... the whole reason behind Denise's beginning rant. ... Weight loss help is not about saying you're doing it wrong! When someone gets frustrated because they have reached a plateau they want support not smart *kitten*.
I have realized that frustrations are better left unsaid here. Sad but true. Sometimes even the big girl panties dont fit.
So true. And sad. So much for support.
My suggestion: Don't look to strangers for support... People are saying that if you lose the inches, the weight will follow, but nobody wants to hear that. Get fit, build muscle and the weight comes off faster.0 -
I bet her BMI is lower in the after picture, however, her weight is the same.
BMI is a number derived from your sex, height, and weight. She weighs the same, didn't magically get taller or shorter, nor became a man, so her BMI will actually still be the same (which is the underlying problem with it when used on individuals).
Her body fat percentage (BF%), however, will likely be quite a bit less.0 -
lol
>America
>People caring about losing actual weight as opposed to feeling better and looking better
>MFW that doesn't make any sense.
>MFW the OP lacks logic (and analytical skills) in general.
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I bet her BMI is lower in the after picture, however, her weight is the same.
BMI takes body fat percentage into consideration? News to me.
My mistake. I meant Body Fat Percentage.0 -
Excellent post, Thanks.
I work in the records office of a family practice, so I deal with this issue and insurance companies on a daily basis. While they do take your BMI into consideration, it is only ONE factor. In fact, it is very rare that they call me looking for a patient's most recent BMI. They invariably ask for most recent lipid levels, blood sugar, blood pressure, etc... They also read your office visit notes. If your doctor says you're healthy (inspite of what your BMI may be), they see that. However, if your BMI says you're obese, your lipid levels are through the roof, your BP is sky high, your blood sugar is too high, and your doctor says you've got health issues due to excess weight/obesity, then, yes, they're going to tell you to reduce your BMI/weight. BMI is based on your height, weight, and age. It is NOT the most accurate way to determine healthy weight. I think more and more healthcare providers are recognizing this fact, and I think it's only a matter of time before it is not used as a standard measurement anymore. Regardless of what the insurance company or the BMI charts say, the primary goal should always be to get HEALTHY. If you create healthy habits, the weightloss WILL happen, and it's not a matter of "if", but "when". It just takes longer for some people than for others. When people suggest for you to take measurements, they're just trying to show you that you are losing FAT, even if you're not losing POUNDS.0 -
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What kind of job requires you to be unfit, but light? Professional pillow tester?
I would guess any job that bases their initial screenings on BMI?
Which is a little illegal?
Illegal, yes. But just like the sex of a person, not completely uncommon. It is known that a person who qualified but overweight has less of a chance of getting hired versus somebody with less experience but a smaller waistband. And in relation to her medical insurance statement, same concept: Why sign somebody on to the policies if there is an increased chance of health problems, medical potentials.. Over all: weight = potential societal stigmas.0 -
I get it. At one point I was in between jobs and sought out health insurance for the gap. While I'm really healthy and have had no weight-related complications, ever, the price jumped astronomically because I'm obese. Their questionnaire did not take into account how fit/athletic/muscular I was for my weight, only the number on the scale vs my height. Yes, BMI is a bad indicator of health, but in order to jump through hoops, a lower number on the scale can make a huge impact on your life.0
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Some scales can be inaccurate... when I bought new digital scales in February, they weighed me in at 12lbs MORE than the scales I had been using.. and this has happened before about 15 years ago, though I had forgotten! And sometimes when I weigh myself each morning (yes, I know I probably shouldn't! - but I choose to) and it gives me a figure I am disappointed with, I go back 5 mins later and it will weigh 0.2 lbs less!!
At least with the measuring tape the error is not going to be more than +/- an inch!
I have measurements dating back over 40 years, and it has been really interesting to see how those compare with the measurements I am now at the same weight.- currently I am in measurements back to where I was about the year 2000, but in weight I was about 8 lbs lighter then... so maybe the scales then were wrong!
But whichever you choose to go by, they are a guide only - remember that one of the signs that you may be seriously ill with the big 'C' is weight loss, and I agree with the posters that you need to listen to your body, get to know it, and aim for genuine health! Good luck0 -
Lol. After reading all 10 pages of this... I'm now left to wonder,... Where did the OP go??0
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Lol. After reading all 10 pages of this... I'm now left to wonder,... Where did the OP go??0
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I chuckled when I saw this. I know it gets frustrating not having what you want to happen as you want it to. I was watching the scale and getting frustrated, I had only lost 6 lbs, then I measured myself and found that I had lost over 17 inches! I was losing my motivation and the 17 inch loss helped to get it back. So I know you want to scale to go down, but don't discount the NSV, they are inspiring. Hang in there!0
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Lol. After reading all 10 pages of this... I'm now left to wonder,... Where did the OP go??
probably got tired of being ripped apart.0 -
I don't see the conflict. I too am tracking my weight. I am really interested in general health, but there is no way to track that unless you explain exactly what you mean. I believe that if I lose weight my body size will decrease and my general health will improve. Although losing weight is important to me, overall health is more important. I believe that if you eat for optimum health your weight will take care of itself.
MFP will help you track a lot of things. I'm not worried about my arms, legs, and butt, but they are decreasing as I loose weight. You may be looking for other attributes in your quest for fitness, weight loss or whatever. MFP will help you with that too. Why cant we all just get along? God bless you all!0 -
... the whole reason behind Denise's beginning rant. ... Weight loss help is not about saying you're doing it wrong! When someone gets frustrated because they have reached a plateau they want support not smart *kitten*.
I have realized that frustrations are better left unsaid here. Sad but true. Sometimes even the big girl panties dont fit.
So true. And sad. So much for support.
My suggestion: Don't look to strangers for support... People are saying that if you lose the inches, the weight will follow, but nobody wants to hear that. Get fit, build muscle and the weight comes off faster.
Since you quoted me - why have message boards then?0 -
If you woke up tomorrow and weighed 200 lbs but had your dream body would you care about your weight then?0
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The great thing about MFP is that you can do whatever YOU WANT! If you just want to care about pounds loss, than do it!
THIS! People are so freakin technical......#lightenup :drinker:0 -
Someone is going to be kicking themselves with embarassment in about a year lolol0
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I don't have time to read all the responses...but to the OP, where exactly did you see that this was just a weight loss board? I must have missed that. I thought it was called My Fitness Pal.0
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Please post pictures when you lose all of the weight you're here to lose but haven't lost inches. I'd LOVE to see that! :huh:0
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Wait.. This is a weight loss board?!0
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Hahaha, you think the force of gravity has anything to do with your health.0
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What I have found is that weight alone is NOT a good measure of healthy living. BMI itself does NOT give the whole picture. What is more telling is a number that takes measurements and weight together to determine your body fat percentage. What we SHOULD be focusing on is maintaining our body fat within a normal range. NFL football players are ALL either obese or overweight TECHNICALLY given the BMI scale... Why? Because muscle is denser than fat and hence weighs more per cubic inch... Yet arguably they are healthier than most of us. The coaches monitor not their BMI but rather their body fat ratio to ensure they are at their peak performance level... Yes weight and bmi means a lot to most of us who are not athletes BUT if we incorporate weights and resistance training to our regimen we must also focus on that body fat ratio and understand that we may truly be at a healthy fitness level even if we are "overweight" according to BMI. In short, it ALL MATTERS.0
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