"It's SIMPLE! Burn more than you consume!" (B.S.)

OK, so that statement really chafes my nether-parts.

It is so NOT that darn simple!

I am a Zumba Instructor. I teach a 1 hour class at the MINIMUM of 3 times/week. On average I AM burning more calories than I consume and I am NOT losing weight anymore. I've been teaching about 6 classes/week for the past 2 weeks and haven't been eating any more or any less and I haven't gained or lost a SINGLE FRIGGING POUND!

By the way, I'm NOT asking advice, because I can almost promise you for 20 different people at least 10 different answers. Not gonna help me, but thanks anyway. I simply wanted to point out that this statement gets thrown around so much and it's just blatantly NOT TRUE!
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  • EnchantedEvening
    EnchantedEvening Posts: 671 Member
    Your body has adapted. That's what causes plateaus. You need to vary your exercise and cycle your calories to start losing again.

    But, as you said, you don't care about my (educated) opinion, so you can just ignore this and keep sticking your fingers and your ears and saying, "Lalalalalalalala."

    Your anecdote is not fact. Please stop spreading the wrong information and calling science a lie.
  • _HeathBar_
    _HeathBar_ Posts: 902 Member
    Actually it is that simple. But thanks for sharing your opinion I suppose.
  • Saiklor
    Saiklor Posts: 183
    I think that this is one of these situations where the advice is deceptive because it's simple. Sure, if you burn more than you consume you'll change the composition of your body; but how do you calculate what you're burning? And how does the composition change (weight v. lost/gained inches for example). Every person is different...
  • Trail_Addict
    Trail_Addict Posts: 1,340 Member
    Starvation mode! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • LesterBlackstone
    LesterBlackstone Posts: 291 Member
    You're absolutely right. There's no possible way you could be overestimating your expenditure an/or underestimating your intake.

    That would just be silly.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    OK, so that statement really chafes my nether-parts.

    It is so NOT that darn simple!

    I am a Zumba Instructor. I teach a 1 hour class at the MINIMUM of 3 times/week. On average I AM burning more calories than I consume and I am NOT losing weight anymore. I've been teaching about 6 classes/week for the past 2 weeks and haven't been eating any more or any less and I haven't gained or lost a SINGLE FRIGGING POUND!

    By the way, I'm NOT asking advice, because I can almost promise you for 20 different people at least 10 different answers. Not gonna help me, but thanks anyway. I simply wanted to point out that this statement gets thrown around so much and it's just blatantly NOT TRUE!

    Simple statement, perhaps not simple application.

    And when simple idea is delved into, not really simple statement.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-energy-balance-equation.html
  • p0pr0cksnc0ke
    p0pr0cksnc0ke Posts: 1,283 Member
    You're absolutely right. There's no possible way you could be overestimating your expenditure an/or underestimating your intake.

    That would just be silly.
    :drinker:
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    You do have to burn more than you consume, but you also have to know how much you are burning which is where things get fuzzy. Nobody can accurately measure that. The best that anyone can hope for is to come close. If you aren't losing, it is because you aren't burning as much as you used to, and therefore, are NOT burning more than you are consuming.

    It is that simple!
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
    You do have to burn more than you consume, but you also have to know how much you are burning which is where things get fuzzy. Nobody can accurately measure that. The best that anyone can hope for is to come close. If you aren't losing, it is because you aren't burning as much as you used to, and therefore, are NOT burning more than you are consuming.

    It is that simple!

    Bingo.
  • mcarter99
    mcarter99 Posts: 1,666 Member
    It is true. It's not often observable over very short time frames like your's.
  • sherry9300
    sherry9300 Posts: 149 Member
    You look great in your pics, BTW! Two weeks isn't long enough to determine your weight loss. If you raised your calories recently, it can take weeks, maybe even a couple of months, for your body to adjust. I'm sure you know this already, though. Not losing is frustrating....may you find success soon!
  • myfitnessnmhoy
    myfitnessnmhoy Posts: 2,105 Member
    Sorry, but biologically and mathematically it IS that simple. Calories are taken in and absorbed, and burned.

    What makes it difficult is the interrelationship between the two. Eating more (or less) can have a direct effect on how many calories you burn or are able to burn. Different macronutrient balances support different types of activities optimally.

    Increased fitness and reduced weight will both reduce the number of calories a given activity tends to burn. And, worst of all, the calories you eat and ESPECIALLY the calories you burn, as calculated by any tools you choose to use, are all merely estimates.

    Repeating the same cardio exercise, even at ever-increasing intensity, will yield reducing results over time as the muscles get more efficient at doing that exercise. You gotta mix up the cardio, and even then you'll get diminishing returns for the same workout level because your overall cardiovascular efficiency is improved. Which is great news for every single aspect of your life OTHER than weight loss.
  • bm99
    bm99 Posts: 597 Member
    It IS simple, burn more than you consume. THIS IS FACT.

    The hard part is figuring out how much you are burning. It sounds like your body adapted to the exercise, so you are no longer burning as much doing the same activities. That doesn't mean in vs. out is wrong, it means you are wrong about how much you should be eating.
  • boggsmeister
    boggsmeister Posts: 292 Member
    You aren't burning more than you consume. So the problem is that you aren't taking in less calories than you are burning. If you were burning more calories than you were consuming, you would lose weight.

    As far as it not being simple, well, the metabolism can be a mysterious beast.
  • MeliciousGibson
    MeliciousGibson Posts: 248 Member
    OK, I was just venting because I've been extremely frustrated that I've been doing all of the "right" things based on opinions from different people. Trust me, I've tried the "Eat more to lose weight", I've tried the 15% less than TDEE....I've given plenty of time in between applications to give it time to actually work. And nothing.

    Today I finally just snapped when someone said to me flat out, "I don't know why you're stressing - it's simple. Burn more than you take in". If it were that simple, would I be struggling like I am?

    As for varying my routine - the only thing I can do is ADD. I am a Zumba Instructor - I teach Zumba. There's only so much you can do with a Zumba format... So I can try to add strength training to one of the days I'm also teaching Zumba. This is a job, I can't just NOT do it.

    I do appreciate the nasty and sarcastic responses, though! (by the way, that's my own sarcasm, in case you missed it) It serves to remind me why I rarely ever post to these forums. Such a nasty and unsupportive place. Honestly, I've never known a forum be so full of such nasty people in my life - and I've belonged to more than a few of them!

    I'm happy to have been able to provide you with the opportunity to get it all out, though! Carry on!
  • GasMasterFlash
    GasMasterFlash Posts: 2,206 Member
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  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
    wait...if you burn more than you eat, i'm pretty sure you would be dead. so, i know you're lying there somewhere.

    probably under/over estimations, and not really looking at every single thing.

    clean eating
    solid exercise (and i see the zumba results, so its a burner)
    watch the macros
    count EVERYTHING
    if you have hit a plateau, you may have to do something to switch up. sometimes you have to trick your body. if you do/eat the same thing day in and day out month after month, your body adapts and thinks its normal and will stop responding. you have to shcok it. my technique is to just stop exercising for a week or so. then, hit the exercise, then eat like a pig for a week or two, then go back, and it seems to knock everything off kilter. do what works, but it really is as simple as you are saying it's not.
  • auroranflash
    auroranflash Posts: 3,569 Member
    Congrats on beating cancer. Hope you figure it all out. I won't give my opinion since you said you didn't want it. Have a great day.
  • MeliciousGibson
    MeliciousGibson Posts: 248 Member
    By the way - I want to apologize to all that have been actually offering supportive and factual information without resorting to pettiness and sarcasm. THANK YOU to you! :D
  • _HeathBar_
    _HeathBar_ Posts: 902 Member
    I do appreciate the nasty and sarcastic responses, though!

    You're welcome.
  • EDesq
    EDesq Posts: 1,527 Member
    OK, so that statement really chafes my nether-parts.

    It is so NOT that darn simple!

    I am a Zumba Instructor. I teach a 1 hour class at the MINIMUM of 3 times/week. On average I AM burning more calories than I consume and I am NOT losing weight anymore. I've been teaching about 6 classes/week for the past 2 weeks and haven't been eating any more or any less and I haven't gained or lost a SINGLE FRIGGING POUND!

    By the way, I'm NOT asking advice, because I can almost promise you for 20 different people at least 10 different answers. Not gonna help me, but thanks anyway. I simply wanted to point out that this statement gets thrown around so much and it's just blatantly NOT TRUE!


    THAT was the formula when Food was NATURAL and WHOLE, that has NOT been the formula for MANY-A-Year! Also, It is UN-NATURAL to Consume the SAME Amt of Calories Day In and Day Out, as well as do the SAME Activity Day In and Day Out.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    I think they make lotion for the chaffing of nether-parts.


    PLEASE tell me what it is, cause the itching has become unbearable.
  • SassyCalyGirl
    SassyCalyGirl Posts: 1,932 Member
    someone needs a piece of chocolate :bigsmile:
  • Crochetluvr
    Crochetluvr Posts: 3,320 Member
    Starvation mode! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    I was going to post but yours is much better.
  • auroranflash
    auroranflash Posts: 3,569 Member
    OK, so that statement really chafes my nether-parts.

    It is so NOT that darn simple!

    I am a Zumba Instructor. I teach a 1 hour class at the MINIMUM of 3 times/week. On average I AM burning more calories than I consume and I am NOT losing weight anymore. I've been teaching about 6 classes/week for the past 2 weeks and haven't been eating any more or any less and I haven't gained or lost a SINGLE FRIGGING POUND!

    By the way, I'm NOT asking advice, because I can almost promise you for 20 different people at least 10 different answers. Not gonna help me, but thanks anyway. I simply wanted to point out that this statement gets thrown around so much and it's just blatantly NOT TRUE!


    THAT was the formula when Food was NATURAL and WHOLE, that has NOT been the formula for MANY-A-Year! Also, It is UN-NATURAL to Consume the SAME Amt of Calories Day In and Day Out, as well as do the SAME Activity Day In and Day Out.

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  • hiker282
    hiker282 Posts: 983 Member
    *laughs* Everything works, nothing works forever. Shake things up if what you've been doing has stopped. That's the sign that your body has adapted and you need to knock it off guard again.
  • Trail_Addict
    Trail_Addict Posts: 1,340 Member

    I do appreciate the nasty and sarcastic responses, though! (by the way, that's my own sarcasm, in case you missed it) It serves to remind me why I rarely ever post to these forums. Such a nasty and unsupportive place. Honestly, I've never known a forum be so full of such nasty people in my life - and I've belonged to more than a few of them!


    Please explain how you bettered this place when you start a thread solely for the purpose of telling everyone that they are full of *kitten* when they offer time-tested advice for weightloss. What kind of responses were you expecting?
  • GasMasterFlash
    GasMasterFlash Posts: 2,206 Member
    I think they make lotion for the chaffing of nether-parts.
    PLEASE tell me what it is, cause the itching has become unbearable.
    Penicillin
  • jmoney34
    jmoney34 Posts: 61 Member
    I feel your pain. I exercise all the time, I eat when hungry, and I keep hearing "you're eating too little". I'm not starving myself, I eat healthy, and I exercise..and guess what..I CAN'T LOSE A F***ING POUND!!!!!! SO frustrated! And you're right, I get sick of posting on here because everyone gives their different opinion.
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