Calling All REAL animal lovers!!!
MissGraziano
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I'm going out of my mind here. I feel like everywhere I go someone wants to argue with me about my beliefs that animals have the right to exist on planet earth just as humans do. Animals were NOT created for the purpose of serving mankind, and humans are NOT the superior species. I can't even sleep tonight knowing that there are so many people that disagree with me. It's so insane to me! So, for my sanity, please let me know if you feel like I do. I need some support here!!!
BTW... This is not about me being vegetarian. This has nothing to do with not eating animals. I am a science major and I happen to appreciate the circle of life. I just choose not to eat animals because I don't want to personally cause them harm. I have no problem with the food chain. This is about thinking humans are superior to animals and that animals are here to serve mankind... NOT TRUE.
BTW... This is not about me being vegetarian. This has nothing to do with not eating animals. I am a science major and I happen to appreciate the circle of life. I just choose not to eat animals because I don't want to personally cause them harm. I have no problem with the food chain. This is about thinking humans are superior to animals and that animals are here to serve mankind... NOT TRUE.
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Sorry dear, all animals are part of the food chain. Some less likely to be eaten than others.
If it makes you feel any better; I am for kindness to the animals I don't eat. And, I love all animals, but believe some are to be eaten as part of a balanced diet.0 -
A human is an animal too. Just with less hair and a very developed social and economical system.0
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Sorry dear, all animals are part of the food chain. Some less likely to be eaten than others.
Every animal is edible. Even I'm edible. But that my dear friend is called cannibalism. And it is frowned upon in most societies...0 -
Hate to say it, but even in the Bible animals are used as sacrifice or as a working animal.
How do you define a "real" animal lover?
Because I love animals. SO much I almost became a vet once-upon-a-time, I don't support certain things and I don't support the inhumane treatment of animals either. But how do you define a true lover?0 -
Animals are 'used' by other animals too. Some species of bird purposely lay their eggs in the nests of other species, and many insects use other creatures as live hosts for their young.0
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Sorry dear, all animals are part of the food chain. Some less likely to be eaten than others.
Yeah ^^^, if Humans weren't civilized, we might get eaten by other animals. I mean, think about the humans that get killed at the zoo. It's the circle of life.0 -
Sorry dear, all animals are part of the food chain. Some less likely to be eaten than others.
Every animal is edible. Even I'm edible. But that my dear friend is called cannibalism. And it is frowned upon in most societies...
It's not cannibalism if a big bear eats ya...0 -
I agree with you, it drives me crazy.
I can't understand how people can actually EAT animals. Do they not think about what goes into it? Death, torture, etc.??!?!?!?
I'm a fairly recent vegetarian (since September/October) but I am so happy that i made this decision. I feel soooo much better about myself because of it.
Sine then, I can't help it, when I see someone eating cow, pig, chicken, etc., I just get really sad. I wonder, do they really understand what they are eating?
That's just part of it, of course. All the stray animals, I wish I could help, but I can't do everything myself. Animal cruelty ... UGH ... it drives me up the wall! I wish I could do MORE!!!0 -
Hate to say it, but even in the Bible animals are used as sacrifice or as a working animal.
How do you define a "real" animal lover?
Because I love animals. SO much I almost became a vet once-upon-a-time, I don't support certain things and I don't support the inhumane treatment of animals either. But how do you define a true lover?
The bible? Saying that animals are slaves of men because the bible says so is like saying women will always be inferior and are the reason sin exists.
I feel ya, OP. We have no right controlling the fate of animals. I, however, stopped caring that no one agrees with me.. You might as well sleep.0 -
I never said animals weren't meant to be eaten, although I don't eat them. I am a science major. I know and love the circle of life. I am saying that Earth was not made for humans and animals were not made solely for the purpose of serving humans.0
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We treat animals a lot like animals treat each other.
Earth creatures eat one another.
Welcome to reality.
If somebody does not want to eat animal flesh, fine. Just don't snivel over the fact that most humans do.
Life at the top of the food chain has its benefits.
Buon Appetito
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Sorry dear, all animals are part of the food chain. Some less likely to be eaten than others.
Every animal is edible. Even I'm edible. But that my dear friend is called cannibalism. And it is frowned upon in most societies...
It's not cannibalism if a big bear eats ya...
Damn. Quote shut DOWN0 -
I feel like you do, but theres no way to stop it..0
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Hate to say it, but even in the Bible animals are used as sacrifice or as a working animal.
How do you define a "real" animal lover?
Because I love animals. SO much I almost became a vet once-upon-a-time, I don't support certain things and I don't support the inhumane treatment of animals either. But how do you define a true lover?
The bible? The bible is a joke. Saying that animals are slaves of men because the bible says so is like saying women will always be inferior and are the reason sin exists.
I feel ya, OP. We have no right controlling the fate of animals. I, however, stopped caring that no one agrees with me.. You might as well sleep.
At least I can sleep a little better knowing someone else thinks the bible is a joke.
The bible is a joke.. The earth is also not 6000 years old. Science is the answer to everything.
Inb4 bible quotes.0 -
Sine then, I can't help it, when I see someone eating cow, pig, chicken, etc., I just get really sad. I wonder, do they really understand what they are eating?
I think most people understand that the chicken breast they are eating came from a previously living animal.0 -
Things always get dicey when someone brings in Religion and The Bible. Why dont people leeeaaaarrrnnnnn!?!?!?!?!?0
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Very few people are animal HATERS but not everybody is an animal lover. I loved my dogs and I would definitely steer away if I spot a rodent in the middle of the road while driving but if I had to kill a cow to get another human its heart, I would in a heart beat.
In my eyes, animal cruelty should be punishable. What constitutes as animal cruelty? hurting animals for fun (dog fights, hunting animals yo don't plan to eat) but I am a strong advocate for eating animals. Where I come from, children start slicing and helping the family with butchering at a young age. I think I used the knife on a live animal at age of 11 and have been helping my family split big chunks of meat into smaller from the age of 7 or so.
I eat meat. I like vegetarians. Nothing wrong with vegetarians I say, as long as they leave me alone, I leave them alone.0 -
"If God did not intend for us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of meat?" ~John Cleese0
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Hate to say it, but even in the Bible animals are used as sacrifice or as a working animal.
How do you define a "real" animal lover?
Because I love animals. SO much I almost became a vet once-upon-a-time, I don't support certain things and I don't support the inhumane treatment of animals either. But how do you define a true lover?
The bible? The bible is a joke. Saying that animals are slaves of men because the bible says so is like saying women will always be inferior and are the reason sin exists.
I feel ya, OP. We have no right controlling the fate of animals. I, however, stopped caring that no one agrees with me.. You might as well sleep.
At least I can sleep a little better knowing someone else thinks the bible is a joke.
I can make you sleep REAL good, add me0 -
THIS is what keeps you up at night? Do you think meat eaters are complete idiots? I am well aware that my chicken was a former live chicken. Same for my hamburger and my bacon. Animals had to die for it to be made. You have no problem with animals eating other animals, but humans (also animals) aren't supposed to eat animals? What kind of crazy hypocrisy is that!?!?0
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I agree with you, it drives me crazy.
I can't understand how people can actually EAT animals. Do they not think about what goes into it? Death, torture, etc.??!?!?!?
I'm a fairly recent vegetarian (since September/October) but I am so happy that i made this decision. I feel soooo much better about myself because of it.
Sine then, I can't help it, when I see someone eating cow, pig, chicken, etc., I just get really sad. I wonder, do they really understand what they are eating?
That's just part of it, of course. All the stray animals, I wish I could help, but I can't do everything myself. Animal cruelty ... UGH ... it drives me up the wall! I wish I could do MORE!!!
I am an animal lover, and have several times raised my own market animals. Beef, pork, lamb. If I'm going to eat it I'd rather raise it myself, know it was cared for and fed good quality food, and take responsibility for it when it comes time to go to the butcher. But the fact that I raised a pig from the time that it was 20 lbs until it was 250 lbs doesn't change the fact that I raised it for the express purpose of being my food...
In fact, I'm fairly certain I have a better idea of what goes into becoming a market animal than YOU do. I'm also aware that most market animals are not the same thing as your dog or cat. Try not to place the same "pet" value on a pig or a cow that you do on a dog or a cat...Not the same thing.
On the other hand, I believe that all animals have value in their own way. I don't believe that my life is any more sacred than that of a cow's or vice versa. I do not "belong" on this earth any more than any other animal, I was just lucky to be born human. I still have the same vulnerabilities - ie if a bear came along I'd be bear food - and therefore don't feel guilty about consuming animals. I feel so long as we respect the food we eat, and don't take more than we need, we're not doing any worse than the animal kingdom itself.0 -
We treat animals a lot like animals treat each other.
Earth creatures eat one another.
Welcome to reality.
If somebody does not want to eat animal flesh, fine. Just don't snivel over the fact that most humans do.
Life at the top of the food chain has its benefits.
Buon Appetito
I'm sure you would love being mistreated, underfed, farmed and then killed for your flesh to be eaten by creatures bigger than you. I have been vegetarian all my life have no problems with omnivornes. Just because you're a human doesnt mean you have to be ignorant. I do too believe animals were ment to be eaten, but to the extent.. Now they are farmed soley for meat.0 -
Hate to say it, but even in the Bible animals are used as sacrifice or as a working animal.
How do you define a "real" animal lover?
Because I love animals. SO much I almost became a vet once-upon-a-time, I don't support certain things and I don't support the inhumane treatment of animals either. But how do you define a true lover?
The bible? The bible is a joke. Saying that animals are slaves of men because the bible says so is like saying women will always be inferior and are the reason sin exists.
I feel ya, OP. We have no right controlling the fate of animals. I, however, stopped caring that no one agrees with me.. You might as well sleep.
At least I can sleep a little better knowing someone else thinks the bible is a joke.
The bible is a joke.. The earth is also not 6000 years old. Science is the answer to everything.
Inb4 bible quotes.
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I am a REAL animal lover. I love most all of them right next to the mashed potatoes.
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I miss the Sundays where after church, Granny would open the back door and pick up the .22 and say "what chicken do you want tonight?" and blow its head off.
those were the days. best. chicken. ever.0 -
THIS is what keeps you up at night? Do you think meat eaters are complete idiots? I am well aware that my chicken was a former live chicken. Same for my hamburger and my bacon. Animals had to die for it to be made. You have no problem with animals eating other animals, but humans (also animals) aren't supposed to eat animals? What kind of crazy hypocrisy is that!?!?
Once again.. I made it clear that this has nothing to do with vegetarianism.0 -
I miss the Sundays where after church, Granny would open the back door and pick up the .22 and say "what chicken do you want tonight?" and blow its head off.
those were the days. best. chicken. ever.
Jealous... I want that fresh of meat. I am thinking I need to find a way to raise my own meat.0 -
I think most people understand that the chicken breast they are eating came from a previously living animal.
Ehhhh. I don't think so. People are so divorced from food processes these days. Hehe, I remember this cute little video of a prank in a grocery store where there were "FRESH SAUSAGES" and the guy would give them some tasty sausage, and then when they wanted some to buy, he would pick up a little piglet and put it in this big box and then grind it with the sound of piggy squeals. MOST of the people were like gagging and trying to hurl up their sausage. Some were horrified about the painful grinding death, but the initial response was disgust and nausea.
Also, I notice most people I feed my whole fish to are disgusted by the head. Really? It's a damn fish. If you can't look it in the eye while you eat it, you don't deserve to eat it.. Or when they walk by asian markets that actually have ducks hanging - wah-wah-wah-gross-blah-blah.0 -
I think there is room for all God's creatures, Right next to the mashed potatoes.:laugh:0
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Sorry dear, all animals are part of the food chain. Some less likely to be eaten than others.
Every animal is edible. Even I'm edible. But that my dear friend is called cannibalism. And it is frowned upon in most societies...
Awesome. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory reference. Yes.0
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