Why do some people on here say that cheese is unhealthy???

rainydaze613

People tend to have very strong opinions about food.
I won't lie- I'm a cheese lover, and while there are good things that come out of cheese, I also think there are many detrimental effects to dairy (actually decreases ability to absorb calcium, associated with bad skin and body odor, etc) in general and that the dairy industry is attempting to brainwash people. You can pretty much argue that anything is healthy or unhealthy, because there's bound to be a study online to back up your case.
Whether or not something is "unhealthy" can mean different things- unprocessed, high calorie, high fat, high carb, etc. Depends on an individual themselves.
The same scenario can be seen for people who avoid soy like the plague. I personally think soy is great. I eat many servings of it in all forms every day.
The important thing is to have a balance of food, and gradually find out what works for you.

ahamm002

The saturated fat in dairy has been linked to increased risk of disease.

once again source? if you are going to quote something like this - no offense but back it up

I didn't quote anything, I answered the OP's question.

I don't owe you or anyone a source and the tone of your reply suggests you are unwilling to listen to any opinion other than your own. Since everyone on here has Google I don't see why you can't find this stuff yourself, but here a few.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-full-story/index.html#the-bottom-line
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/healthy-eating-cutting-unhealthy-fats-from-your-diet#
http://www.pcrm.org/search/?cid=252
http://www.ajcn.org/content/86/4/929.abstract
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html

Your science is outdated and based primarily on the old "sat fat is evil" garbage. Dairy fat has been found to be pretty much neutral. Overall dairy's health benefits probably outweight it's risks. Plus it's a good source of CLA. And oh yeah, it tastes frickin great.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3289141/?tool=pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16407709
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22081693
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3299312/

Debbe2

<<< Disclaimer*** Cheese lover here
Lots of people think of cheese as a protein but it is actually low in protein for the amount of calories and fat it contains. So cheese in and of itself isn't unhealthy as long as the amount of cheese you eat fits within your daily goals. If you want to save on the calories then consider some of the time using cheese like a condiment on foods to add flavor and enjoyment while not going overboard with it.

ahamm002

http://www.chacha.com/question/does-dairy-slow-down-your-metabolism

This looks like a very reliable source...feel free to use it as a reference :bigsmile:

Reliable source? um yeah not like this came from NIH or anything. I would NOT consider this a source to back that up. NEXT!

Okay than, next up is advice from the NIH:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/patientinstructions/000104.htm
"Saturated fats raise your LDL ("bad") cholesterol level. High LDL cholesterol puts you at risk for heart attack, stroke, and other major health problems. You should avoid or limit foods that are high in saturated fats.

--Keep saturated fats to only 10% of your total daily calories.
--Foods with a lot of saturated fats are animal products, such as butter, cheese, whole milk, ice cream, cream, and fatty meats.
--Some vegetable oils -- coconut, palm, and palm kernel oils -- also contain saturated fats. These fats are solid at room temperature.
--A diet high in saturated fat increases cholesterol build up in your arteries (blood vessels). Cholesterol is a soft, waxy substance that can cause clogged, or blocked, arteries.":

hahaha Well first, I won't even get into how poor the sources are on that NIH article, and the influence that the corn/healthcare industry has over them.

This is wrong, outdated science. There are different types of LDL, having high LDL means nothing.

Your body produces three to four times more cholesterol than you eat. The production of cholesterol increases when you eat little cholesterol and decreases when you eat much. Not eating cholesterol does nothing but increase your bodies production.. of cholesterol.

Science!

While I wouldn't say high LDL means nothing, the important part is that there are different types of LDL and the kind sat fat increases aren't the most worrisome kind.

There is a plethora of evidence that suggests total fat intake and even sat fat are not detrimental to you health when controlled for the obvious confounders.

stormieweather

Mmmmm cheese!!! :happy:

wgn4166

what about wieght watcher cheese

danithegirl89

Because they're clearly crazy! Cheese is my favorite food

jennifershoo

The saturated fat in dairy has been linked to increased risk of disease.

once again source? if you are going to quote something like this - no offense but back it up

I didn't quote anything, I answered the OP's question.

I don't owe you or anyone a source and the tone of your reply suggests you are unwilling to listen to any opinion other than your own. Since everyone on here has Google I don't see why you can't find this stuff yourself, but here a few.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-full-story/index.html#the-bottom-line
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/healthy-eating-cutting-unhealthy-fats-from-your-diet#
http://www.pcrm.org/search/?cid=252
http://www.ajcn.org/content/86/4/929.abstract
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html

None of these sources are reliable. The Harvard article says soy is healthy. Enough said.

Eadne

One serving of cheese is TINY considering the high amount of calories, and it's easy to eat too much. I eat cottage cheese but rarely bother with the sort that needs slicing - I'd rather spend my calories on food that's more filling.

Also it's worth noting that British people have never been so healthy as during WWII when cheese was rationed to 28g per week...

Chipmaniac

Also it's worth noting that British people have never been so healthy as during WWII when cheese was rationed to 28g per week...

Wow! That settles it!

You might want to explore the difference between causation and correlation. Just some friendly advice.

jennifershoo

I used to be the biggest cheese-lover in effing world, then I discovered the truth about dairy and it changed EVERYTHING!

Cow milk is meant for baby cows, just like human milk is meant for baby humans. We are the only species that drinks another animals milk. It's not normal. As far as health, the acidity of milk creates an acidic environment in the body and actually LEACHES calcium from our bones. THe milk does a body good campaign is just a marketing ploy for the dairy industry.

Not only that: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allows 750 million pus cells in every liter of milk (about two pounds). In Europe, regulators allow 400 million pus cells per liter.

Since it takes 10 pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese, a pound of cheese can contain up to 7.5 billion pus cells. If your American cheese is sliced so that there are 16 slices to a pound, that single slice of American or Swiss can contain over 468 million pus cells.

Eighty percent of milk protein consists of casein, a tenacious glue. Casein is the glue that is used to hold a label to a bottle of beer. Try to scrape off one of those labels, then consider the effects of casein in your body. Casein is the glue that holds together wood in furniture.

Behold the power of glue and behold the power of horrible bowel movements. Casein is a foreign protein and your body reacts to its presence by creating an antibody. That antibody-antigen reaction creates histamines. Anti-histamines (like Benadryl) are used to counter the effects of histamines. Mucus and phlegm are produced as a result of cheese consumption.

Not to mention if you don't drink organic, you're consuming hormones, antibiotics, and pesticides.

from: http://www.drheise.com/powercheese.htm

Also there's tons of resources and sources here: http://www.notmilk.com


I've been off dairy for 9 months now... it wasn't easy since casein is an addictive opiate-like protein meant to attract babies to eat more to become big and strong... mother nature never intended for us to keep drinking it forever. After 2 weeks of withdrawals, I don't miss it at all anymore! There are SO MANY substitutes, life is good and I feel happier and healthier!

STOP VEGAN PROPAGANDA

MaraDiaz

They are masochists leading joyless lives.

Cheese. It's good. It's also calorie dense, though, if you're counting calories, a serving is quite small. I don't see how that's bad, though. Just inconvenient at times.

Eadne

Wow! That settles it!

You might want to explore the difference between causation and correlation. Just some friendly advice.

People ate less dairy, meat and sugar, and more vegetables. It's generally accepted that rationing improved the nation's health by forcibly imposing a balanced diet.

wftiger

Haters gonna hate. Probably the same people that hate bacon.

LynC33

I LOVE cheese and will never give it up! I dont care if its calorie dense, most of what we love to eat (and probably shouldnt) is calorie dense. Its about portion control. The world would be full of cranky people if we all gave up what we love. Screw that!

wftiger

The saturated fat in dairy has been linked to increased risk of disease.

once again source? if you are going to quote something like this - no offense but back it up

I didn't quote anything, I answered the OP's question.

I don't owe you or anyone a source and the tone of your reply suggests you are unwilling to listen to any opinion other than your own. Since everyone on here has Google I don't see why you can't find this stuff yourself, but here a few.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-full-story/index.html#the-bottom-line
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/healthy-eating-cutting-unhealthy-fats-from-your-diet#
http://www.pcrm.org/search/?cid=252
http://www.ajcn.org/content/86/4/929.abstract
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html

None of these sources are reliable. The Harvard article says soy is healthy. Enough said.

OMG, really you are quoting Huffington Post? You do realize they are the internet version of the National Enquirer right??? If you don't then WOW, read an article or two.

raystark

dairy slows down your metabolism

Source?

It's Science, bro.

Oh wait, I meant to write "It's Bro-Science." :glasses:

MaraDiaz

OMG, really you are quoting Huffington Post? You do realize they are the internet version of the National Enquirer right??? If you don't then WOW, read an article or two.

No they're not. They do have a distinctive political slant, however. Much like a certain television station I won't name for fear of my post getting deleted.

davidsgirl145

what about wieght watcher cheese

Um... that just sounds gross, LOL
But, seriously...If they take the fat out to make it ''healthier'' then that means they replace it with something else...probably more salt and something weird that's man made.... Just eat regular cheese in moderation if your worried about the calories/fat. Or read the lable on the WW cheese...

Rinkermann

at the end of the day, all food is made up of carbs, fat, protein etc. there is no reason why you can't fit cheese, or any other food, into a balanced diet in a reasonable amount.