For cryin' out loud. I eat pasta, fast food and ice cream!
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I'm so tired of seeing "I can't eat pasta. I can't eat fast food. I can't eat ice cream. I can't eat fruit. I can't have this. I can't have that."
Seriously. This is why people don't "diet" because they think they're only going to live on lettuce and nuts.
I eat pasta.
I drank booze (can't now because I'm pregnant).
I eat ice cream EVERY DAY. Yes, EVERY SINGLE DAY (and have for 7 months now)
I eat fast food.
Heck, I'll even have that 1000 calorie burrito from Chipotle.
And yes! I LOST WEIGHT. And how did I do it?
BY WORKING MY *kitten* OFF.
Did I really want that burrito? You bet I did. But I exercised to earn it.
Do I REALLY eat ice cream EVERY DAY? Sure do. I remember the days I would down half a container of Breyer's. Not anymore. The key is portion control. I get the Skinny Cow. Actually, right now I have full fat, full calorie TRIPLE CHOCOLATE DRUMSTICKS in my freezer. I had one last night, and golly, I made it fit into my plan.
*gasp* PASTA?! OH NO. Yes, I eat pasta and I do regularly. I'll usually have 1.5-2 servings of cheese ravioli WITH sauce PLUS vegetables with butter!
My macros are set at 45-35-20 and I hit them almost every day on point with calories to spare at the end of the day! Today - my macros came all to 0 at the end of the day.
You CAN eat all the "evil" foods. It's not a "diet", it's a LIFESTYLE CHANGE and the key to a lifestyle change is to enjoy everything you enjoy, but to adapt them in a way to make them fit into your new lifestyle.
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I always love these threads be quad 90% of the posters who scream that clean eating is the only option and don't you want to be HEALTHY? have usually not lost that much weight. We all go on the evangilical kick when first starting out.
I've asked before and I've never received actual scientific evidence showing that all these 'unclean' foods are generally bad for the population when eaten in moderate amounts. Our problems over the last 40 years have been eating to excess. Not what we eat. We simply don't have the data to show that those foods are bad for us as part of a balanced diet.
Now I'm not talking about the people who have an intolerance to them (I feel so much better since cutting out white grains. I had white rice withot thinking and was doubled up in pain all night. Brown rice = awesome) People's bodies will react different to different foods. So learn what works for you.0 -
Best post of the thread.But those aren't clean foods,therefore you're destroying your health
Exactly. Its not about just being within your calorie range. It's about being healthy, too. At least for me it is!
But if I only eat 100% healthy foods, I can't meet my calorie goals. So I gotta eat a mixture of healthy and not-so-healthy-but-okay-in-moderation foods. >.<
Do you eat nuts? Avocado? Whole grains? There are plenty of high calorie healthy whole food options.
WHY do some people who THINK they are eating "Clean" and /or Healthy believe that High Allergen foods (NUTS, Dairy, Whole Grain/Gluten, Soy, even fish and shell fish...) ARE HEALTHY for EVERYONE!!!? People need to start to use COMMON SENSE and whatever Works for them, and they want to Do it...Then "More Power To You!"
I just hope people know that all these EXCESSIVE Exercise Routines are NOT sustainable; not only that, they cause joint, muscle and tissue damage, and Running is one of the worse exercises you can do. So, choose what you will...to eat and to exercise, come 45+ you will PAY for it. You don't see people over 45 going much for the Extremes, because they did it, know it is not sustainable and many are now paying for the BAD Extreme choices they made at a younger age. The arthritis, back problems, muscle damage, foot problems, stomach problems, cancers...SoOoOoO, choose your poison NOW, we'll see the RESULTS at 40+ y.o.
STICK with Moderation in All Things and as you age you will be able to make "Shifts" (in diet and exercise, and Life) Easier. But hey, I was told that too, when I was younger...didn't listen, paying for it...So, knock yourselves out! Do Extreme Everything!
Oh and low fat Pringles with Whey protein sludge is epic!0 -
I'm so tired of seeing "I can't eat pasta. I can't eat fast food. I can't eat ice cream. I can't eat fruit. I can't have this. I can't have that."
Seriously. This is why people don't "diet" because they think they're only going to live on lettuce and nuts.
I eat pasta.
I drank booze (can't now because I'm pregnant).
I eat ice cream EVERY DAY. Yes, EVERY SINGLE DAY (and have for 7 months now)
I eat fast food.
Heck, I'll even have that 1000 calorie burrito from Chipotle.
And yes! I LOST WEIGHT. And how did I do it?
BY WORKING MY *kitten* OFF.
Did I really want that burrito? You bet I did. But I exercised to earn it.
Do I REALLY eat ice cream EVERY DAY? Sure do. I remember the days I would down half a container of Breyer's. Not anymore. The key is portion control. I get the Skinny Cow. Actually, right now I have full fat, full calorie TRIPLE CHOCOLATE DRUMSTICKS in my freezer. I had one last night, and golly, I made it fit into my plan.
*gasp* PASTA?! OH NO. Yes, I eat pasta and I do regularly. I'll usually have 1.5-2 servings of cheese ravioli WITH sauce PLUS vegetables with butter!
My macros are set at 45-35-20 and I hit them almost every day on point with calories to spare at the end of the day! Today - my macros came all to 0 at the end of the day.
You CAN eat all the "evil" foods. It's not a "diet", it's a LIFESTYLE CHANGE and the key to a lifestyle change is to enjoy everything you enjoy, but to adapt them in a way to make them fit into your new lifestyle.
Hells yes!
People look at me when I say I'm really watching what I eat, they say things like "Oh, so you're dieting then?" Ah, no. I'm not. Why on earth would I deprive myself of all the things I enjoy eating!? Moderation is the key and if I want ice cream, I make damned sure it fits into my cals!
I have a back injury so some days I can't move at all, but by golly, when I can, I do! Because of this, it takes me a little longer to lose the weight, but I'd rather lose it gradually than awfully quick and risk having it pile back on. 5kg (roughly 10lb) in just over 2 months is a damned good effort I think!
(BTW quoted this straight up before reading any other posts, just wanted to agree whole-heartedly!)
ETA: I joined MFP after already losing 4kg - that 1kg in my ticker is what I've lost since joining MFP.0 -
I just think its a bit sad when people talk about 'depriving' themselves of ice cream or sweets like theyre an essential nutrient. 'I dont want to deprive myself'.....your body doesnt NEED it, its a psychological feeing, it tastes nice to you, so you want it, youre not 'depriving' yourself by not having it, youre just not having it.
I eat mostly unprocessed foods, no dairy, grains, etc. Do I feel deprived, no. I eat awesome delicous food every day and I enjoy it, I feel great. Sometimes I'll order a dessert when I go out, eat a little grain. I have a glass of wine if I want one. I dont feel deprived when I see people at work eat cake. I choose not to eat it, it doesnt make me sad. Its not that I CANT have it, its that I dont WANT it.0 -
I just hope people know that all these EXCESSIVE Exercise Routines are NOT sustainable; not only that, they cause joint, muscle and tissue damage, and Running is one of the worse exercises you can do. So, choose what you will...to eat and to exercise, come 45+ you will PAY for it. You don't see people over 45 going much for the Extremes, because they did it, know it is not sustainable and many are now paying for the BAD Extreme choices they made at a younger age. The arthritis, back problems, muscle damage, foot problems, stomach problems, cancers...SoOoOoO, choose your poison NOW, we'll see the RESULTS at 40+ y.o.
I'm 40 now, and without sounding like a cheesy infomercial, I'm in the best shape of my life. I don't consider my exercise EXCESSIVE. I run about 3 times a week, usually between 3-6 miles, and lift weights about 3 times a week, between a half hour and an hour. Which is just about the same routine as my 55 year old brother.
I maintain my weight eating about 2000-2200 calories a day. Currently eating between 1800-2000 to lose a few. Plenty of room for pasta, potatoes, pizza and ice cream in that number of calories.0 -
I used to eat everything in moderation and I'm always encouraging people like my Mum, who find it hard to cut out food or she'll quit, to eat that way.
Since I've got to my last 12lbs I haven't lost in maybe two months, give or take a week or so. I decided that my diet will be as clean as I can possibly get it while living in a house with 4 other people who like their junk.
Not only do I feel so much better for getting rid of junk like refined sugar snacks and processed foods but my weight loss moved again.
I live by the rule that you can't out-exercise a bad diet. No matter how hard you work, some things just aren't good for your body.0 -
I just think its a bit sad when people talk about 'depriving' themselves of ice cream or sweets like theyre an essential nutrient. 'I dont want to deprive myself'.....your body doesnt NEED it, its a psychological feeing, it tastes nice to you, so you want it, youre not 'depriving' yourself by not having it, youre just not having it.
I eat mostly unprocessed foods, no dairy, grains, etc. Do I feel deprived, no. I eat awesome delicous food every day and I enjoy it, I feel great. Sometimes I'll order a dessert when I go out, eat a little grain. I have a glass of wine if I want one. I dont feel deprived when I see people at work eat cake. I choose not to eat it, it doesnt make me sad. Its not that I CANT have it, its that I dont WANT it.
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Best post of the thread.But those aren't clean foods,therefore you're destroying your health
Exactly. Its not about just being within your calorie range. It's about being healthy, too. At least for me it is!
But if I only eat 100% healthy foods, I can't meet my calorie goals. So I gotta eat a mixture of healthy and not-so-healthy-but-okay-in-moderation foods. >.<
Do you eat nuts? Avocado? Whole grains? There are plenty of high calorie healthy whole food options.
WHY do some people who THINK they are eating "Clean" and /or Healthy believe that High Allergen foods (NUTS, Dairy, Whole Grain/Gluten, Soy, even fish and shell fish...) ARE HEALTHY for EVERYONE!!!? People need to start to use COMMON SENSE and whatever Works for them, and they want to Do it...Then "More Power To You!"
I just hope people know that all these EXCESSIVE Exercise Routines are NOT sustainable; not only that, they cause joint, muscle and tissue damage, and Running is one of the worse exercises you can do. So, choose what you will...to eat and to exercise, come 45+ you will PAY for it. You don't see people over 45 going much for the Extremes, because they did it, know it is not sustainable and many are now paying for the BAD Extreme choices they made at a younger age. The arthritis, back problems, muscle damage, foot problems, stomach problems, cancers...SoOoOoO, choose your poison NOW, we'll see the RESULTS at 40+ y.o.
STICK with Moderation in All Things and as you age you will be able to make "Shifts" (in diet and exercise, and Life) Easier. But hey, I was told that too, when I was younger...didn't listen, paying for it...So, knock yourselves out! Do Extreme Everything!
Oh and low fat Pringles with Whey protein sludge is epic!
44 here - play A-level hockey every week with guys in their 20s-30s. Been doing P90x 5x per week since January and still loving it. The pains and aches only vanished once I gave up the Big Macs and chips, put down the remote and got up off my fat *kitten*. I would rather stay active and battle a sore knee or back than deal with obesity, diabetes and atherosclerosis (which was where I was headed). Just my experience...0 -
I mean....yeah you should eat what you want within reason, but you aren't doing yourself any favours eating rubbish every day so what's your point? I would say eat ice cream as a treat, pasta daily is fine and a bit of fast food isn't going to do you any harm at all and yeah exercise *shrug*0
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I have the same philosophy!
My previous diets didn't work because my approcah was "all or nothing". How ever did I think I could go the rest of my life without all of the things I love? Heck I couldn't even manage a month and it's no wonder.
Now I have little bits of everything - it's all about portion control...and it's taken a LOT of effort to be able to restrict my portions. Some days I fail and binge, but that's life!0 -
I also weigh everything I eat. My problem is that I can't control myself when I get to a certain point of hunger/craving.How do you control yourself with portions? The more I exercise, the more I can't control myself because my cravings get intensified. Example, I burn 200 calories, I was going to eat one cookie, but then I end up eating 1,000 calories worth of food in addition to that one cookie.
Portion control is THE ABSOLUTE KEY. I have a food scale and I weigh every single thing I eat. I was using measuring cups/spoons only to find out I was grossly over or under estimating. With the scale, there's no lying. 0 -
If that works for you, then great! But that doesn't work for everyone else. I won't kill my self at the gym to have a pizza or ice cream. Instead, I have sugar free ice cream or low fat ice cream. Plus all that food has junk in it. It's great that you can lose weight on your "diet", but eventually it'll catch up to you.0
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I guess, it is OK to eat this so called "bad food" , as long as you also include "good foods" with vitamins etc., to stay healthy. Candy, chips and icecream .... are really not essential for your body.0
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Moderation is key great post OP0
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I totally agree, it is all about portion control! I have learned that. Last summer I started the journey to lose weight then within a month I found out I was pregnant. I lost about 20lbs. Now my little on is 8wks old and I am ready to get my butt in gear!!!0
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If that works for you, then great! But that doesn't work for everyone else.
Could you have left it at the above, without adding the snark below? :ohwell:It's great that you can lose weight on your "diet", but eventually it'll catch up to you.
I don't kill myself at the gym ( don't even belong to one) to have pizza or ice cream, either. I typically get the doctor-recommended 30 minutes of exercise a day. Maybe a little more, because it makes me feel good. How it makes me look, and how it allows me to eat, is a bonus, as far as I'm concerned.
I have to think that eating minimally so you can avoid exercise poses much more risks of it "catching up to you."0 -
With respect it is not for you to decide what another adults goal should be!!!FOOD DOES NOT EQUAL HAPPINESS!!!!! People on here say, well I eat those foods because I don't want to give them up. what's the point of being skinny if you are not happy..... STOP BEING IN DENIAL, YOU ARE ALREADY NOT HAPPY, THAT IS WHY YOU ARE ON THIS SITE FOR THE MOST PART. You will be happy because you will be healthy, your body will be working perfectly and you will have the energy to do other things, rather than dwelling on the candies that you are not "allowed" to eat. The whole point is to be healthy. Skinny people have heart attacks too you know. They have cellulite and digestive problems.... the list goes on. Your goal should not be to be skinny, you should aim to be healthy.0 -
Good for you, skinny doesn't mean heathy though ... Just sayin' ...
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I just think its a bit sad when people talk about 'depriving' themselves of ice cream or sweets like theyre an essential nutrient. 'I dont want to deprive myself'.....your body doesnt NEED it, its a psychological feeing, it tastes nice to you, so you want it, youre not 'depriving' yourself by not having it, youre just not having it.
I eat mostly unprocessed foods, no dairy, grains, etc. Do I feel deprived, no. I eat awesome delicous food every day and I enjoy it, I feel great. Sometimes I'll order a dessert when I go out, eat a little grain. I have a glass of wine if I want one. I dont feel deprived when I see people at work eat cake. I choose not to eat it, it doesnt make me sad. Its not that I CANT have it, its that I dont WANT it.
I'm sorry that you feel like I am saying that I am sad and deprived or depriving myself of sugar.
I agree, they're not an essential nutrient as you mention, but what I am saying is that, like with many others in this post it is about everything in moderation. (BTW I lost 20kgs pre-back injury and maintained until said injury, so I know I can do this again).
My 65kg 29yo male partner was craving ice cream tonight. I wasn't.
Why? Because I genuinely didn't feel like it.
I'm not saying I NEED it, I'm just saying if there is that time when I feel like something sugary and sweet, I will have it. I don't eat ice cream or cake (not even a huge cake fan) or pie etc. every single day, nor have I ever. But when I would eat it, I would indulge. Now, as I have demonstrated twice today, I know when I don't want something.
I also hate McDonalds, KFC, Hungry Jacks/Burger King, Red Rooster etc. I gave them up cold turkey 15 months ago, and just the smell of them makes me want to be sick. I don't have a problem with anyone who eats them though.
Today I chose fresh cherries over a packaged muesli slice that was laden with sugar. I know what's right, I know what's wrong. I watch what I eat. I'm succeeding, I'm seeing results and my fitness is returning.0 -
I would love to be able to eat 100% clean all the time, for the sake of my health, but I'm sooo weak willed!
I aim to do 80% healthy and 20% indulgent, but I just can't seem to stick to this all the time, especially just before that time of the month when my junk food cravings intensify (like now!)
I think it would be easier to keep the house a junk food free zone if I didn't have kids.
However, they do like the low sugar, low carb cookies I made, so perhaps I could do more of that type of cooking... hmm!0 -
Those that take it to extremes are a small number compared to those with obesity and heart problems.But those aren't clean foods,therefore you're destroying your health
Exactly. Its not about just being within your calorie range. It's about being healthy, too. At least for me it is!
But if I only eat 100% healthy foods, I can't meet my calorie goals. So I gotta eat a mixture of healthy and not-so-healthy-but-okay-in-moderation foods. >.<
Do you eat nuts? Avocado? Whole grains? There are plenty of high calorie healthy whole food options.
WHY do some people who THINK they are eating "Clean" and /or Healthy believe that High Allergen foods (NUTS, Dairy, Whole Grain/Gluten, Soy, even fish and shell fish...) ARE HEALTHY for EVERYONE!!!? People need to start to use COMMON SENSE and whatever Works for them, and they want to Do it...Then "More Power To You!"
I just hope people know that all these EXCESSIVE Exercise Routines are NOT sustainable; not only that, they cause joint, muscle and tissue damage, and Running is one of the worse exercises you can do. So, choose what you will...to eat and to exercise, come 45+ you will PAY for it. You don't see people over 45 going much for the Extremes, because they did it, know it is not sustainable and many are now paying for the BAD Extreme choices they made at a younger age. The arthritis, back problems, muscle damage, foot problems, stomach problems, cancers...SoOoOoO, choose your poison NOW, we'll see the RESULTS at 40+ y.o.
STICK with Moderation in All Things and as you age you will be able to make "Shifts" (in diet and exercise, and Life) Easier. But hey, I was told that too, when I was younger...didn't listen, paying for it...So, knock yourselves out! Do Extreme Everything!0 -
But if I only eat 100% healthy foods, I can't meet my calorie goals. So I gotta eat a mixture of healthy and not-so-healthy-but-okay-in-moderation foods. >.<
LOL!
"But Doc, I had to eat that double whopper with cheese!! I had to eat back my exercise calories!!"0 -
I just think its a bit sad when people talk about 'depriving' themselves of ice cream or sweets like theyre an essential nutrient. 'I dont want to deprive myself'.....your body doesnt NEED it, its a psychological feeing, it tastes nice to you, so you want it, youre not 'depriving' yourself by not having it, youre just not having it.
I eat mostly unprocessed foods, no dairy, grains, etc. Do I feel deprived, no. I eat awesome delicous food every day and I enjoy it, I feel great. Sometimes I'll order a dessert when I go out, eat a little grain. I have a glass of wine if I want one. I dont feel deprived when I see people at work eat cake. I choose not to eat it, it doesnt make me sad. Its not that I CANT have it, its that I dont WANT it.
I'm sorry that you feel like I am saying that I am sad and deprived or depriving myself of sugar.
I agree, they're not an essential nutrient as you mention, but what I am saying is that, like with many others in this post it is about everything in moderation. (BTW I lost 20kgs pre-back injury and maintained until said injury, so I know I can do this again).
My 65kg 29yo male partner was craving ice cream tonight. I wasn't.
Why? Because I genuinely didn't feel like it.
I'm not saying I NEED it, I'm just saying if there is that time when I feel like something sugary and sweet, I will have it. I don't eat ice cream or cake (not even a huge cake fan) or pie etc. every single day, nor have I ever. But when I would eat it, I would indulge. Now, as I have demonstrated twice today, I know when I don't want something.
I also hate McDonalds, KFC, Hungry Jacks/Burger King, Red Rooster etc. I gave them up cold turkey 15 months ago, and just the smell of them makes me want to be sick. I don't have a problem with anyone who eats them though.
Today I chose fresh cherries over a packaged muesli slice that was laden with sugar. I know what's right, I know what's wrong. I watch what I eat. I'm succeeding, I'm seeing results and my fitness is returning.
Oh I wasnt talking to you in particular, just mulling over the phrase. I dont think theres anything wrong with eating certain things in moderation, just dont like the pharse 'depriving'. It makes not eating a cookie sounds so much more dramatic than it need be.0 -
Amen, sistah!
I love ice cream. And my family is italian so giving up pasta is not happening (had some last night)! But you're correct moderation is key. I don't have ice cream everyday but maybe once a week. But if I had it yesterday and wanted it again today, I would get it. I will also work out and eat a healthier dinner.
Pasta? I just use whole wheat noodles. There is nothing wrong with that. I also get mostly (not all) organic stuff. But I still watch my calories. I'm not depriving myself of anything, I refuse! I just do it all in moderation!
Oh, and disclaimer: When I say "deprive" like a few others have said in here, I mean deprived of something I ENJOY like ice cream. I am aware that I do not need ice cream to survive. But I enjoy it. Doesn't have to be able something you need. And not everyone needs/wants the same things.0 -
The whole "skinny isn't healthy" bit is just wishful thinking on the part of people who want to feel they have superior control over their longevity by eating "clean." Having a normal BMI lowers a person's risk for all sorts of diseases no matter what the person is eating. 90% of type 2 diagnoses are overweight or obese. The idea that a thin person will give themselves diabetes and heart disease by eating pasta and ice cream is absurd.0
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I lost 25 pounds in college and I ate pizza and pasta everyday. Was that a stable and responsible way to feed my body's needs? Not really.
While you may stay in your calories, are you thinking about your cholesterol levels, your blood pressure, or if you are getting the essential nutrients your body needs every day?
This is just my personal POV, but I think of myself when I'm 85 years old. How are my decisions now going to affect me then?
Point of my post, eat what you want, but don't knock others that are more scrutinizing about what they put in their body.
Wow! How did you lose weight in college? College is where I began packing on pounds.0 -
But if I only eat 100% healthy foods, I can't meet my calorie goals. So I gotta eat a mixture of healthy and not-so-healthy-but-okay-in-moderation foods. >.<
LOL!
"But Doc, I had to eat that double whopper with cheese!! I had to eat back my exercise calories!!"
:laugh:
I don't have THAT many calories to eat back. Just enough where an ounce of chips or cheese and crackers handles it fine.0 -
But a Skinny Cow Ice Cream is not a "normal food". There are tons of chemicals in those! You're better off with a nice full fat 1/2 cup of breyers if you can fit it into your allotment.
So true! If you are going to have ice cream go for the real stuff and enjoy every bite. Heck I even lick the bowl!
Totally agree. I tried a Skinny Cow cup and afterward my tongue felt like someone sprayed it with PAM. I asked my DD about it and she told me DONT EAT THAT JUNK. So I purchased a tiny cup of Haagen Daas....twice the calories but all good stuff. Its worth it to eat real food.
When it comes to ice cream, I *have* to agree. My thing with ice cream is that I can't just eat a flavored ice cream. I am a freakoid for TOPPINGS! Hot fudge, salted peanuts, marshmallow, carmel, etc. I have to get myself to where I can work-out enough to burn off all those calories. I was so sedentary for so long, that 10 minutes is the length of my workout. I'll get there though. Maybe once I have gone down 70 pounds like the OP my workouts will be easier.
I am mostly trying to watch my sugar closely because I have a hard time with it.0 -
Full fat ice cream is low GI and glycemic load, but is unclean so shouldn't be eaten anyways. And dairy is terrible for you cause Paleo man didn't eat it.
Thank God, I'm a modern woman and not a cave man!
(*picturing Capt. Caveman cartoon right now*)0
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