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Ow. My head hurts and I haven't even read all of these posts. Why does it have to be all or nothing? Why can't we just agree that there should be smarter gun controls and regulations. No one needs military style weaponry to protect their home. When did we become such cowards that we need large caliber weapons for home protection. If you want a hand gun, fine, a standard semi-auto 9mm is great. And hunters need to hunt, so standard rifles and shot guns are ok. Who the *kitten* needs a 50 caliber to shoot a deer?
I think there should also longer waiting periods and more stringent background checks. We just need to be smarter (operative word being smart) about who gets weapons of public destruction.
My weapon of choice is a paintball gun. I've never liked handguns simply because I'm always afraid my clumsy butt is going to shoot my toe off or something equally stupid. I figured that a rapid-fire paintball gun would be just as effective, wouldn't require me keeping bullets separate from gun, and wouldn't kill anyone should I make a mistake and shoot my husband coming in late from work or my son coming home from a night out. And whoever gets hit with 10 to 20 paintballs at a close distance is going to hurt like a muther AND be relatively conspicuous from the yellow neon paint on their clothes.
Very well said! I'm not anti-gun, I'm just pro-gun control. Which my father says makes me anti-gun. :grumble:0 -
Ow. My head hurts and I haven't even read all of these posts. Why does it have to be all or nothing? Why can't we just agree that there should be smarter gun controls and regulations. No one needs military style weaponry to protect their home. When did we become such cowards that we need large caliber weapons for home protection. If you want a hand gun, fine, a standard semi-auto 9mm is great. And hunters need to hunt, so standard rifles and shot guns are ok. Who the *kitten* needs a 50 caliber to shoot a deer?
I think there should also longer waiting periods and more stringent background checks. We just need to be smarter (operative word being smart) about who gets weapons of public destruction.
My weapon of choice is a paintball gun. I've never liked handguns simply because I'm always afraid my clumsy butt is going to shoot my toe off or something equally stupid. I figured that a rapid-fire paintball gun would be just as effective, wouldn't require me keeping bullets separate from gun, and wouldn't kill anyone should I make a mistake and shoot my husband coming in late from work or my son coming home from a night out. And whoever gets hit with 10 to 20 paintballs at a close distance is going to hurt like a muther AND be relatively conspicuous from the yellow neon paint on their clothes.
Very well said! I'm not anti-gun, I'm just pro-gun control. Which my father says makes me anti-gun. :grumble:
Because once you compromise a little bit of your civil liberties....then the flood begins.
When they took the 4th Amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs.
When they took the 6th Amendment, I was quiet because I am innocent.
When they took the 2nd Amendment, I was quiet because I don't own a gun.
Now they have taken the 1st Amendment, and I can only be quiet.0 -
How did this thread deteriorate from simply stating whether or not you are a fan of guns to posting "gun porn" and attacking everybody who is not all OH MY GOD YES GUNS I LOVE GUNS ALL GUNS EVERY GUN EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE 39028302387298 GUNS INCLUDING SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES AND FULLY AUTOMATICS BECAUSE THERE IS A SITUATION FOR EVERY TYPE OF GUN AND GODDAMMIT I WILL BE PREPARED! ?
Yeah, I called somebody who breaks into a home a "poor soul." You don't know why they're breaking into your home, and if you shoot to kill, you could be killing a homeless person with a mental problem who really just wanted to raid your fridge. Whoever breaks into your home could be a potential rapist or murderer, but there is a guy in my neighborhood who has something wrong with him and will break into homes to take shoes. I don't really see the need to kill him for that.
Also, I said you can kill with one shot. Not that you will. But honestly, if you're going to be one of those people who really loves guns, you should probably be trained to hit your target anyway.
The fact that there are so many angry people with guns is f*cking scary. You all have your damn guns rights. Nobody is going to take them away from you. Calm your tits.
Seems to me like you're getting a bit upset because we're pointing out your lack of knowledge about firearms. You've been making statements when you clearly have no understand of what you're actually talking about and we are simply educating you. But then you have to go and make statements like this and the last one are that are just so ridiculous it's hard for people not to get angry.
You're right, his/her "poor soul" that they walked into my home and are now going to suffer the consequence. That person made the decision to do a petty burglary, they are the ones responsible for whether they lose their life or not from a bullet out of my barrel, I didn't make the decision for them to come into my home. So do I care whether they just wants shoes, NO. I would never put the lives of my family and myself at danger by trying to strike up a conversation to figure out his agenda. That's just absurdly stupid and if anything completely disrespectful to your family that you would risk their lives for the sake of a burglar.0 -
I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it.
Clint Eastwood
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I woke-up this morning and asked my long guns, have you assaulted anyone today? Same question to my handguns; ammunition; dogs; knives and vehicles. Got a unamimous answer of "NO". It is not the weapon that is dangerous it is the user.0
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How did this thread deteriorate from simply stating whether or not you are a fan of guns to posting "gun porn" and attacking everybody who is not all OH MY GOD YES GUNS I LOVE GUNS ALL GUNS EVERY GUN EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE 39028302387298 GUNS INCLUDING SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES AND FULLY AUTOMATICS BECAUSE THERE IS A SITUATION FOR EVERY TYPE OF GUN AND GODDAMMIT I WILL BE PREPARED! ?
Yeah, I called somebody who breaks into a home a "poor soul." You don't know why they're breaking into your home, and if you shoot to kill, you could be killing a homeless person with a mental problem who really just wanted to raid your fridge. Whoever breaks into your home could be a potential rapist or murderer, but there is a guy in my neighborhood who has something wrong with him and will break into homes to take shoes. I don't really see the need to kill him for that.
Also, I said you can kill with one shot. Not that you will. But honestly, if you're going to be one of those people who really loves guns, you should probably be trained to hit your target anyway.
The fact that there are so many angry people with guns is f*cking scary. You all have your damn guns rights. Nobody is going to take them away from you. Calm your tits.
Seems to me like you're getting a bit upset because we're pointing out your lack of knowledge about firearms. You've been making statements when you clearly have no understand of what you're actually talking about and we are simply educating you. But then you have to go and make statements like this and the last one are that are just so ridiculous it's hard for people not to get angry.
You're right, his/her "poor soul" that they walked into my home and are now going to suffer the consequence. That person made the decision to do a petty burglary, they are the ones responsible for whether they lose their life or not from a bullet out of my barrel, I didn't make the decision for them to come into my home. So do I care whether they just wants shoes, NO. I would never put the lives of my family and myself at danger by trying to strike up a conversation to figure out his agenda. That's just absurdly stupid and if anything completely disrespectful to your family that you would risk their lives for the sake of a burglar.
I too have no understand.
After a bit, all this pro gun bull just starts to read like blah blah blaaaaaah my gun, my rights, blah blah blah gun blah me blah me me me blah blah guns blah shooty mcshoot blah blah <insert angry comment> blah blah ain't no one gonna do x, y, z to me blah blah damn right I have a gun blah blah blah. Anyone still reading? Probably not - this is what your boring and tiresome pro gun rants read like blah blah blah gun blah guns don't kill blah blah people kill blah blah OMG there are more people in America ofc there is more gun crime blah blah blah guns blah blah blah why are you still reading this? blah blah I got me a rooty tooty point n shooty blah blah blah yeah guns! blah blah blah blah guns blah blah <insert photographs showing off weapons> blah blah guns blah did we say guns yet? Blah blah blah Oh my god, a spoon made me fat blah blah blah zzzzzzz0 -
The Bill of Rights, and the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution is CLEARLY Pro Gun... The Pro Gun "intent" of the Framers of the 2nd Ammendment was to establish a Deterrent to Tyrannical Government. Hunting is not mentioned at ALL.
Are you a Resident or Citizenof the US that does not Support, and Defend ALL of the Bill of Rights? If So, PLEASE, right now, drop what you're doing, and Leave This Country FOREVER. Any Citizen that does'nt defend the Rights of All Citizens is is either ignorant, or foolish.
Citizens of other countries do not enjoy the same protections we are blessed with by the Constitution.
Whether you are a citizen of another nation, or a "Liberal" Politician that wants to disarm my fellow Americans, You may not LIKE our freedoms, but thankfully you have no RIGHT to change them. If you care to try, just remember ALL THOSE GUNS will be here to deter you...
the constitution can be amended. is it possible the founding fathers couldnt dream of the weapons we have today? didnt guns of their day shoot 1 round a minute or so.
Free speech can be amended, so that if you talk bad about Obama you can be executed....just saying.
Second Amendment also calls for a "Well Regulated Militia" so it appears that the Founding Fathers are pro gun regulation.0 -
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After a bit, all this pro gun bull just starts to read like blah blah blaaaaaah my gun, my rights, blah blah blah gun blah me blah me me me blah blah guns blah shooty mcshoot blah blah <insert angry comment> blah blah ain't no one gonna do x, y, z to me blah blah damn right I have a gun blah blah blah. Anyone still reading? Probably not - this is what your boring and tiresome pro gun rants read like blah blah blah gun blah guns don't kill blah blah people kill blah blah OMG there are more people in America ofc there is more gun crime blah blah blah guns blah blah blah why are you still reading this? blah blah I got me a rooty tooty point n shooty blah blah blah yeah guns! blah blah blah blah guns blah blah <insert photographs showing off weapons> blah blah guns blah did we say guns yet? Blah blah blah Oh my god, a spoon made me fat blah blah blah zzzzzzz
The perfect example of someone who doesn't have any sort of substance to their argument.0 -
I have a shotgun that I use for home defense, an old WWII rifle I got 'cause it was ridiculously cheap and a pistol as well.0
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I too have no understand.
After a bit, all this pro gun bull just starts to read like blah blah blaaaaaah my gun, my rights, blah blah blah gun blah me blah me me me blah blah guns blah shooty mcshoot blah blah <insert angry comment> blah blah ain't no one gonna do x, y, z to me blah blah damn right I have a gun blah blah blah. Anyone still reading? Probably not - this is what your boring and tiresome pro gun rants read like blah blah blah gun blah guns don't kill blah blah people kill blah blah OMG there are more people in America ofc there is more gun crime blah blah blah guns blah blah blah why are you still reading this? blah blah I got me a rooty tooty point n shooty blah blah blah yeah guns! blah blah blah blah guns blah blah <insert photographs showing off weapons> blah blah guns blah did we say guns yet? Blah blah blah Oh my god, a spoon made me fat blah blah blah zzzzzzz
Standard nonsensical response of an anti-gun liberal who is losing an argument based on facts. There version of debate is agree with me or I stick my fingers in my ears.
And I have no problem if you are anti-gun- at least try to present yourself in a reasonable manner. A simple "I dont like guns, wont ever have one, dont understand why you do, and I wish they could be taken away" I would even respect. Acting out- your arguments are now null and void.0 -
Exactly...the classic response when someone is completely out legitimate arguments.
After a bit, all this pro gun bull just starts to read like blah blah blaaaaaah my gun, my rights, blah blah blah gun blah me blah me me me blah blah guns blah shooty mcshoot blah blah <insert angry comment> blah blah ain't no one gonna do x, y, z to me blah blah damn right I have a gun blah blah blah. Anyone still reading? Probably not - this is what your boring and tiresome pro gun rants read like blah blah blah gun blah guns don't kill blah blah people kill blah blah OMG there are more people in America ofc there is more gun crime blah blah blah guns blah blah blah why are you still reading this? blah blah I got me a rooty tooty point n shooty blah blah blah yeah guns! blah blah blah blah guns blah blah <insert photographs showing off weapons> blah blah guns blah did we say guns yet? Blah blah blah Oh my god, a spoon made me fat blah blah blah zzzzzzz
The perfect example of someone who doesn't have any sort of substance to their argument.0 -
How did this thread deteriorate from simply stating whether or not you are a fan of guns to posting "gun porn" and attacking everybody who is not all OH MY GOD YES GUNS I LOVE GUNS ALL GUNS EVERY GUN EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE 39028302387298 GUNS INCLUDING SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES AND FULLY AUTOMATICS BECAUSE THERE IS A SITUATION FOR EVERY TYPE OF GUN AND GODDAMMIT I WILL BE PREPARED! ?
Yeah, I called somebody who breaks into a home a "poor soul." You don't know why they're breaking into your home, and if you shoot to kill, you could be killing a homeless person with a mental problem who really just wanted to raid your fridge. Whoever breaks into your home could be a potential rapist or murderer, but there is a guy in my neighborhood who has something wrong with him and will break into homes to take shoes. I don't really see the need to kill him for that.
Also, I said you can kill with one shot. Not that you will. But honestly, if you're going to be one of those people who really loves guns, you should probably be trained to hit your target anyway.
The fact that there are so many angry people with guns is f*cking scary. You all have your damn guns rights. Nobody is going to take them away from you. Calm your tits.
Seems to me like you're getting a bit upset because we're pointing out your lack of knowledge about firearms. You've been making statements when you clearly have no understand of what you're actually talking about and we are simply educating you. But then you have to go and make statements like this and the last one are that are just so ridiculous it's hard for people not to get angry.
You're right, his/her "poor soul" that they walked into my home and are now going to suffer the consequence. That person made the decision to do a petty burglary, they are the ones responsible for whether they lose their life or not from a bullet out of my barrel, I didn't make the decision for them to come into my home. So do I care whether they just wants shoes, NO. I would never put the lives of my family and myself at danger by trying to strike up a conversation to figure out his agenda. That's just absurdly stupid and if anything completely disrespectful to your family that you would risk their lives for the sake of a burglar.
I too have no understand.
After a bit, all this pro gun bull just starts to read like blah blah blaaaaaah my gun, my rights, blah blah blah gun blah me blah me me me blah blah guns blah shooty mcshoot blah blah <insert angry comment> blah blah ain't no one gonna do x, y, z to me blah blah damn right I have a gun blah blah blah. Anyone still reading? Probably not - this is what your boring and tiresome pro gun rants read like blah blah blah gun blah guns don't kill blah blah people kill blah blah OMG there are more people in America ofc there is more gun crime blah blah blah guns blah blah blah why are you still reading this? blah blah I got me a rooty tooty point n shooty blah blah blah yeah guns! blah blah blah blah guns blah blah <insert photographs showing off weapons> blah blah guns blah did we say guns yet? Blah blah blah Oh my god, a spoon made me fat blah blah blah zzzzzzz
Congrats, I was multitasking and didn't notice that I forgot the 'ing' in 'understanding', get the f*** over yourself. You clearly have no argument or capability of making a statement so you have to go into childish like behavior, that's just pathetic.0 -
I too have no understand.
After a bit, all this pro gun bull just starts to read like blah blah blaaaaaah my gun, my rights, blah blah blah gun blah me blah me me me blah blah guns blah shooty mcshoot blah blah <insert angry comment> blah blah ain't no one gonna do x, y, z to me blah blah damn right I have a gun blah blah blah. Anyone still reading? Probably not - this is what your boring and tiresome pro gun rants read like blah blah blah gun blah guns don't kill blah blah people kill blah blah OMG there are more people in America ofc there is more gun crime blah blah blah guns blah blah blah why are you still reading this? blah blah I got me a rooty tooty point n shooty blah blah blah yeah guns! blah blah blah blah guns blah blah <insert photographs showing off weapons> blah blah guns blah did we say guns yet? Blah blah blah Oh my god, a spoon made me fat blah blah blah zzzzzzz
Standard nonsensical response of an anti-gun liberal who is losing an argument based on facts. There version of debate is agree with me or I stick my fingers in my ears.
And I have no problem if you are anti-gun- at least try to present yourself in a reasonable manner. A simple "I dont like guns, wont ever have one, dont understand why you do, and I wish they could be taken away" I would even respect. Acting out- your arguments are now null and void.
I've been reading this topic since the original board. I have already stated my position. I've read all the pages and most of the links people have used to back their arguments (both sides). The above is the summary of what I have learned, parrot fashion, from my fellow gun loving MFPers
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Sword Smith agreed,
I too have no understand.
After a bit, all this pro gun bull just starts to read like blah blah blaaaaaah my gun, my rights, blah blah blah gun blah me blah me me me blah blah guns blah shooty mcshoot blah blah <insert angry comment> blah blah ain't no one gonna do x, y, z to me blah blah damn right I have a gun blah blah blah. Anyone still reading? Probably not - this is what your boring and tiresome pro gun rants read like blah blah blah gun blah guns don't kill blah blah people kill blah blah OMG there are more people in America ofc there is more gun crime blah blah blah guns blah blah blah why are you still reading this? blah blah I got me a rooty tooty point n shooty blah blah blah yeah guns! blah blah blah blah guns blah blah <insert photographs showing off weapons> blah blah guns blah did we say guns yet? Blah blah blah Oh my god, a spoon made me fat blah blah blah zzzzzzz
Standard nonsensical response of an anti-gun liberal who is losing an argument based on facts. There version of debate is agree with me or I stick my fingers in my ears.
And I have no problem if you are anti-gun- at least try to present yourself in a reasonable manner. A simple "I dont like guns, wont ever have one, dont understand why you do, and I wish they could be taken away" I would even respect. Acting out- your arguments are now null and void.
To the blablabla person. The only person who's angry is you. You don't have worth a damn understanding of guns and the people who use them legally and lawfully. We gave you valid reason for having guns but you stubbornly insist we're are crazy because you don't understand. Far from it. Gunmen who legally own guns are probably the sanest and most laid back people here. I don't know why they have high powered rifles either but just because they do doesn't mean the owners are bad. Rarely have I seen people use them for hunting so they must be for the defense of the home. Nothing wrong with that.
You don't want guns and don't want to learn about them that's your choice. Don't project on us because you do not understand and do not like. If we want guns, we are allowed to have them. There is nothing wrong with that or us. We're not hurting anyone, the only one's that are, are the ones who get guns illegally.0 -
“Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas PaineI've been reading this topic since the original board. I have already stated my position. I've read all the pages and most of the links people have used to back their arguments (both sides). The above is the summary of what I have learned, parrot fashion, from my fellow gun loving MFPers0 -
I'm not upset that you're "pointing out [my] lack of knowledge about firearms" because I don't give a damn that I don't have knowledge of firearms. I don't have any reason to own a firearm. I don't hunt. I don't shoot. I'm not such a violent person that I'm going to kill somebody, even if they do break into my house. Because, as somebody else said, if they are breaking into my home, they're probably armed with a gun that's ready to shoot whereas I wouldn't sleep with a gun cocked under my pillow, which would immediately give me a disadvantage anyway.How did this thread deteriorate from simply stating whether or not you are a fan of guns to posting "gun porn" and attacking everybody who is not all OH MY GOD YES GUNS I LOVE GUNS ALL GUNS EVERY GUN EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE 39028302387298 GUNS INCLUDING SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES AND FULLY AUTOMATICS BECAUSE THERE IS A SITUATION FOR EVERY TYPE OF GUN AND GODDAMMIT I WILL BE PREPARED! ?
Yeah, I called somebody who breaks into a home a "poor soul." You don't know why they're breaking into your home, and if you shoot to kill, you could be killing a homeless person with a mental problem who really just wanted to raid your fridge. Whoever breaks into your home could be a potential rapist or murderer, but there is a guy in my neighborhood who has something wrong with him and will break into homes to take shoes. I don't really see the need to kill him for that.
Also, I said you can kill with one shot. Not that you will. But honestly, if you're going to be one of those people who really loves guns, you should probably be trained to hit your target anyway.
The fact that there are so many angry people with guns is f*cking scary. You all have your damn guns rights. Nobody is going to take them away from you. Calm your tits.
Seems to me like you're getting a bit upset because we're pointing out your lack of knowledge about firearms. You've been making statements when you clearly have no understand of what you're actually talking about and we are simply educating you. But then you have to go and make statements like this and the last one are that are just so ridiculous it's hard for people not to get angry.
You're right, his/her "poor soul" that they walked into my home and are now going to suffer the consequence. That person made the decision to do a petty burglary, they are the ones responsible for whether they lose their life or not from a bullet out of my barrel, I didn't make the decision for them to come into my home. So do I care whether they just wants shoes, NO. I would never put the lives of my family and myself at danger by trying to strike up a conversation to figure out his agenda. That's just absurdly stupid and if anything completely disrespectful to your family that you would risk their lives for the sake of a burglar.
Are you of the mind that everybody who shoplifts or commits burglary should face the death penalty? That's a bit intense, in my opinion. We're not living in Babylon here.0 -
I've been reading this topic since the original board. I have already stated my position. I've read all the pages and most of the links people have used to back their arguments (both sides). The above is the summary of what I have learned, parrot fashion, from my fellow gun loving MFPers
Now this is funny, I go to your page to view your posts you've made, and a good portion of them if not a majority of them are you just being rude. You have nothing to bring to these forums, go somewhere else to express your hate for life. Can you explain to me why you go to threads on subjects you clearly don't like just to express how butt hurt you are? Where does that even begin to make sense, if I don't like something I don't go visit a forum on it so I can express my hate and bigotry.0 -
I'm not upset that you're "pointing out [my] lack of knowledge about firearms" because I don't give a damn that I don't have knowledge of firearms. I don't have any reason to own a firearm. I don't hunt. I don't shoot. I'm not such a violent person that I'm going to kill somebody, even if they do break into my house. Because, as somebody else said, if they are breaking into my home, they're probably armed with a gun that's ready to shoot whereas I wouldn't sleep with a gun cocked under my pillow, which would immediately give me a disadvantage anyway.
Are you of the mind that everybody who shoplifts or commits burglary should face the death penalty? That's a bit intense, in my opinion. We're not living in Babylon here.
If you don't "give a damn" then get off this forum and don't ever post on a firearm forum again, simple as that. I don't care if you don't give a damn, but when you go onto a forum that many others and myself are passionate about and you spew nonsense and ignorance we are going to get upset. Don't claim to know things when clearly you don't, because you obviously haven't taken the appropriate steps to educate yourself on the subject.
I feel bad for your family and your kids if you have them, you'd rather see them murdered because you're too scared to defend them and yourself, now that's just sad. It doesn't matter if someone is deserving of death or not when they enter my home, I don't know their intentions and I wouldn't take the risk of them hurting me or my family like you would. They knew damn well that what they were doing was wrong and that they shouldn't be doing it so it's their fault if they decide to walk into my home. That doesn't make me barbaric or a violent person, I'm the furthest thing from that, that makes me a smart person because I'm willing and able to stop further chaos in my home.
Oh by the way, I don't sleep with a gun cocked under my pillow, life isn't a James Bond movie...0 -
I'm not upset that you're "pointing out [my] lack of knowledge about firearms" because I don't give a damn that I don't have knowledge of firearms. I don't have any reason to own a firearm. I don't hunt. I don't shoot. I'm not such a violent person that I'm going to kill somebody, even if they do break into my house. Because, as somebody else said, if they are breaking into my home, they're probably armed with a gun that's ready to shoot whereas I wouldn't sleep with a gun cocked under my pillow, which would immediately give me a disadvantage anyway.How did this thread deteriorate from simply stating whether or not you are a fan of guns to posting "gun porn" and attacking everybody who is not all OH MY GOD YES GUNS I LOVE GUNS ALL GUNS EVERY GUN EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE 39028302387298 GUNS INCLUDING SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES AND FULLY AUTOMATICS BECAUSE THERE IS A SITUATION FOR EVERY TYPE OF GUN AND GODDAMMIT I WILL BE PREPARED! ?
Yeah, I called somebody who breaks into a home a "poor soul." You don't know why they're breaking into your home, and if you shoot to kill, you could be killing a homeless person with a mental problem who really just wanted to raid your fridge. Whoever breaks into your home could be a potential rapist or murderer, but there is a guy in my neighborhood who has something wrong with him and will break into homes to take shoes. I don't really see the need to kill him for that.
Also, I said you can kill with one shot. Not that you will. But honestly, if you're going to be one of those people who really loves guns, you should probably be trained to hit your target anyway.
The fact that there are so many angry people with guns is f*cking scary. You all have your damn guns rights. Nobody is going to take them away from you. Calm your tits.
Seems to me like you're getting a bit upset because we're pointing out your lack of knowledge about firearms. You've been making statements when you clearly have no understand of what you're actually talking about and we are simply educating you. But then you have to go and make statements like this and the last one are that are just so ridiculous it's hard for people not to get angry.
You're right, his/her "poor soul" that they walked into my home and are now going to suffer the consequence. That person made the decision to do a petty burglary, they are the ones responsible for whether they lose their life or not from a bullet out of my barrel, I didn't make the decision for them to come into my home. So do I care whether they just wants shoes, NO. I would never put the lives of my family and myself at danger by trying to strike up a conversation to figure out his agenda. That's just absurdly stupid and if anything completely disrespectful to your family that you would risk their lives for the sake of a burglar.
Are you of the mind that everybody who shoplifts or commits burglary should face the death penalty? That's a bit intense, in my opinion. We're not living in Babylon here.
If you feel no need to own a gun that's your right. If we feel we have a need to carry a firearm, we have the right to. No way does that make us violent. Nor does is make us paranoid. In no way do we think someone is after us or specifically out to get us. We do know there are people that might make us a target for god knows what. Anyone could be a target but when we gun owners become said target we are prepared because we have a chance to fight back if we need to. We don't want to hurt anyone and we aren't looking for a fight. So in no way are we violent.
Second of all in no way did we say or think someone who shop lifts or breaks in deserves to die or get the death penalty. Sure we think they should face the consequences of their actions. When you break into someone's house you face the penalty of being shot. If you're killed, well that just plain sucks. If you shoplift, you deserve jail time. Not making people face the consequences is the reason why our country is going down hill.0
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