Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America?

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  • Cristofori44
    Cristofori44 Posts: 201
    I despise hipsters and everything they represent. THAT is the most emasculating trend in the past 20 years.

    LOL @ "The hipster wears fashionable clothing from places like Urban Outfitters and American Apparel. "

    The ripped jean shorts with a beard and scrawny legs look is so overplayed...makes me gag every time I see it, which is about 50x a day.


    and the fixed gear bike...dude you are not cool just because you ride a bike to work, the same bike that all your friends also ride everywhere and cling to as a symbol of their identity. You know what is cool... my huge *kitten* V8 engine that burns through gas like a cruise ship.

    You're cool because of your car? How is that different from a hipster thinking they are cool because of a bike?
  • invictus8
    invictus8 Posts: 258 Member
    Part of the problem is the lack of male role models in the post-war era. We have a generation of men (including me) who were raised by single mothers, taught by women in elementary school and high school, and most of us didn't play team sports with other men. So no male role models about how to be a man without being a *kitten*.
  • deads99
    deads99 Posts: 77
    Not in my house. My girl cooks for me and in return I let her ride my junk all she wants.
  • toaster6
    toaster6 Posts: 703 Member
    I love this. A bunch of men... worrying about their figures and counting up their calories (I presume, since that's a big reason most of us are here)... gathering up together to discuss their feelings... about how men aren't manly anymore. Oh, and a they're also crying about not having any male role models to boot. Are you sure this group is really the right one to discuss the "crisis" of the decline of masculinity in our society?

    And for the record, I don't care if a man wants to keep in shape or discuss his feelings.... except when he's going to call out other guys for not being "manly enough".
  • toaster6
    toaster6 Posts: 703 Member
    Yes there is a crisis, but it has nothing to do with pink shirts, fruity drinks, or men being domineering. People equate being a manly man with being a womanizer or a wife beater now days and it's just not true.

    A real man does what's right no matter what it costs him. A real man stands up for those who are weaker than him. A real man provides for his family. A real man loves sacrificially. A real man is not afraid of things that may be considered "girly", but neither is he obsessed with being "girly". A real man loves ONE woman, he does NOT "spread his seed". A real man treats his woman like a queen. A real man takes the lead in the relationship, but never dominates or abuses.

    There is also a crisis of women acting too masculine.

    A real woman does not bully her man or manipulate him. A real woman embraces her femininity. A real woman wears dresses, makeup, and pretty shoes when appropriate ( to do otherwise is not "self expression" it is disrespect). A real woman is not afraid to let her man take care of her the way he should. A real woman doesn't sleep around and try men on for size. A real woman is modest. A real woman treats men with respect. A real woman is not a door mat, she does not let everyone walk all over her, but neither does she walk over others.

    Umm... excuse me?

    All men are real regardless of how they act and dress. All women are real regardless of how they dress and act.

    But thanks, I didn't realize I had to dress a certain way and let a man take care of me in order to be a real woman. :noway:

    This. I'm a human being, not some sort of house cat. I don't mind being with someone that wants to do things for me but I do not want everything done for me. I don't want to be coddled (at least, not always) and I don't want to be treated like a queen. Autonomy is good.
  • ubuntufav
    ubuntufav Posts: 59
    I love this. A bunch of men... worrying about their figures and counting up their calories (I presume, since that's a big reason most of us are here)... gathering up together to discuss their feelings... about how men aren't manly anymore. Oh, and a they're also crying about not having any male role models to boot. Are you sure this group is really the right one to discuss the "crisis" of the decline of masculinity in our society?

    And for the record, I don't care if a man wants to keep in shape or discuss his feelings.... except when he's going to call out other guys for not being "manly enough".

    Im so drunkk right now, all I can say is learn to flip a pic before talking crap to others. It isnt that hard love.
  • deads99
    deads99 Posts: 77
    This thread is gay
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member
    OMFG (and I have never before used that acronym in my life) - I think I have lost brainpower reading this thread. Apparently the OP has created his own definition of "HIPSTER" and this WHOLE THREAD WAS REALLY CREATED FOR THE OP TO EXPRESS HIS HATRED OF "HIPSTERS, " whatever the heck that even means anymore.

    According to the OP anyone who talks about recycling, organic food, "flowers" (what does that even mean?), reads, drinks water, talks about buying local, is against using hormones in food animals and is against child labor is a "hipster." And according to his friend, whose various posts express a viewpoint that makes me wonder if suffragettes and other women who fought for equal rights are rolling in their graves, "hipsters" are men who have long beards and go barefoot and wear rumpled clothing - and these things somehow are "girly."

    Oh - forgot to add that anyone who is against multinational corporations is also a "hipster."

    I know!

    I had never heard of the term hipster before this thread, but having gone off to google the term, I have no decided I probably am one. I think perhaps what you guys see as hipster, we in the UK call "normal".
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member
    I love this. A bunch of men... worrying about their figures and counting up their calories (I presume, since that's a big reason most of us are here)... gathering up together to discuss their feelings... about how men aren't manly anymore. Oh, and a they're also crying about not having any male role models to boot. Are you sure this group is really the right one to discuss the "crisis" of the decline of masculinity in our society?

    And for the record, I don't care if a man wants to keep in shape or discuss his feelings.... except when he's going to call out other guys for not being "manly enough".

    Quite. The bigger the muscles, the less of the man, if this thread is to be taken as indicative. Caring about whether you come across as "manly" enough is so gay.
  • Jaimers92
    Jaimers92 Posts: 40 Member
    YES. And the perfect example of this is my mother and father's relationship. She wears the pants!
  • joselo2
    joselo2 Posts: 461
    I don't know why gay is come into this an insult. It isn't, and it doesn't make you less of a man. I hate when people talk about 'real men' and 'real women'. I am an adult male, therefore a real man, like all the other adult males. I don't see why it matters so much how much the population fits in with old and often arbitrary expectations and boundaries of what gender should be, who cares s long as we good people and happy.
    xxxxx
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member
    I despise hipsters and everything they represent. THAT is the most emasculating trend in the past 20 years.

    LOL @ "The hipster wears fashionable clothing from places like Urban Outfitters and American Apparel. "

    The ripped jean shorts with a beard and scrawny legs look is so overplayed...makes me gag every time I see it, which is about 50x a day.


    and the fixed gear bike...dude you are not cool just because you ride a bike to work, the same bike that all your friends also ride everywhere and cling to as a symbol of their identity. You know what is cool... my huge *kitten* V8 engine that burns through gas like a cruise ship.

    You're cool because of your car? How is that different from a hipster thinking they are cool because of a bike?

    Well, it's a lot less environmentally friendly. I'd go with the bike. Destroying the planet through stupidity = not cool.
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member
    I don't know why gay is come into this an insult. It isn't, and it doesn't make you less of a man. I hate when people talk about 'real men' and 'real women'. I am an adult male, therefore a real man, like all the other adult males. I don't see why it matters so much how much the population fits in with old and often arbitrary expectations and boundaries of what gender should be, who cares s long as we good people and happy.
    xxxxx

    I don't think being gay is less manly, but it is something which really bothers the machismo pumped up misogynists, so I use it to make a point, that by caring so much about what others think about them, they are in fact epitomising what they most fear.

    No offense intended to homosexuals at all. Just to misogynists. I intend to offend them a lot.
  • joselo2
    joselo2 Posts: 461

    I don't think being gay is less manly, but it is something which really bothers the machismo pumped up misogynists, so I use it to make a point, that by caring so much about what others think about them, they are in fact epitomising what they most fear.

    No offense intended to homosexuals at all. Just to misogynists. I intend to offend them a lot.

    I agree about hating misogyny. I think gay and straight can be misogynists. Being sexually attracted to women doesn't mean you respect women. I know you probably weren't refuting that, just saying.
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member

    I don't think being gay is less manly, but it is something which really bothers the machismo pumped up misogynists, so I use it to make a point, that by caring so much about what others think about them, they are in fact epitomising what they most fear.

    No offense intended to homosexuals at all. Just to misogynists. I intend to offend them a lot.

    I agree about hating misogyny. I think gay and straight can be misogynists. Being sexually attracted to women doesn't mean you respect women. I know you probably weren't refuting that, just saying.

    Oh I agree. I imagine the OP is sexually attracted to women, as are most of the pumped up testosterone heads on here, but they seem to have little respect for us. And no, opening doors and wanting to feel protective isn't respect. Respect is acknowledging someone as an equal.
  • Iceman1800
    Iceman1800 Posts: 476
    Big time issue. Guys shave their junk, wear skinny jeans and wear those fanny packs. They don't "shake it off" anymore, they dry the tip with a towel or toilet paper. Bunch of girlie men. To me its a simple choice. Have a girl walk down a dark alley. Walk with a guy in skinny jeans and a shaved chest or a redneck like me with hair on his junk
  • Iceman1800
    Iceman1800 Posts: 476
    I think there is a douche bag crisis in America.


    Look at you. Witty little aren't you? Hunnnnny, go to Austin, they would be so mean to you and then come back to this thread. I have been there and see how they treat over weight women. Its so wrong and hard to watch. You do not need to be taking up for them. I am shocked there are not many men on here defending men. There seems to be many real men with muscles and that act like men on here so its weird that they are quiet. I guess because its a thread about boobs or *kitten* so they dont care. lolz.
    did someone say boobs?
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member
    Big time issue. Guys shave their junk, wear skinny jeans and wear those fanny packs. They don't "shake it off" anymore, they dry the tip with a towel or toilet paper. Bunch of girlie men. To me its a simple choice. Have a girl walk down a dark alley. Walk with a guy in skinny jeans and a shaved chest or a redneck like me with hair on his junk

    Can women not walk around on their own in 2012?
  • Iceman1800
    Iceman1800 Posts: 476
    Oh I agree. I imagine the OP is sexually attracted to women, as are most of the pumped up testosterone heads on here, but they seem to have little respect for us. And no, opening doors and wanting to feel protective isn't respect. Respect is acknowledging someone as an equal.
    [/quote]jmho, but I don't think the disrespect is a gender issue. I open doors for women but also elderly people. I think its more of a common courtesy than a macho thing. Just basic respect for others.
  • shabaity
    shabaity Posts: 792 Member
    always remember the person who cooks is the one in control cause either you wont eat or you might just get food poisoning accidentally :bigsmile:
  • victoria4321
    victoria4321 Posts: 1,719 Member
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    Ha! I heart nerds. My husband is an engineer with fab muscles, a beautiful face, and glasses. :)

    Haha I have this shirt too. I got it in engineering school and wore it when I wanted hw help of course. My schools nerds werent hipsters though
  • toaster6
    toaster6 Posts: 703 Member
    I love this. A bunch of men... worrying about their figures and counting up their calories (I presume, since that's a big reason most of us are here)... gathering up together to discuss their feelings... about how men aren't manly anymore. Oh, and a they're also crying about not having any male role models to boot. Are you sure this group is really the right one to discuss the "crisis" of the decline of masculinity in our society?

    And for the record, I don't care if a man wants to keep in shape or discuss his feelings.... except when he's going to call out other guys for not being "manly enough".

    Im so drunkk right now, all I can say is learn to flip a pic before talking crap to others. It isnt that hard love.

    Oh did I hit a nerve doll? I don't flip my picture because frankly, I don't care about it. Was that supposed to be an insult? Are you taking insult lessons from GLaDOS? Good try at a come back I suppose. And it isn't "talking crap", it's observation.

    And you mean to tell me you're sitting around DRUNK posting on a calorie counting site about how men aren't "manly" enough anymore? Fantastic. My god, you can't make this stuff up.
  • leodru
    leodru Posts: 321 Member
    Why do people care? The problem in America is more about the fact that people aren't "free" to be what they are dispite all the commercials and retoric. America - land of the "free to be like me". If you all aren't carbon copies of each other then people go all ape **** on each other. Let people live and screw off! I dont shop at American Apparel - I do dress well but arent skinny nor am i a Hipster. I think people confuse Masucline with what makes someone worthwhile. People associate masculine with rednecks - tough guys who cant keep a job because they are too busy being "masculine". I have a great job - make a great wage and have these self professed chicken-wing eating "masculine" guys over to paint my fence and clean out my shed. Now i'll go back to counting my calories.....
  • wolfpack77
    wolfpack77 Posts: 655
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  • Il_DaniD_lI
    Il_DaniD_lI Posts: 1,593 Member
    Honestly: Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America? Are more men allowing women to dominate relationships?

    Those are 2 completely different and unrelated questions.
  • DelilahCat0212
    DelilahCat0212 Posts: 282 Member
    This entire topic is ludicrous. It's like the women's movement never happened.

    *headdesk*

    Someone call me when this website moves out of the 1950's.

    :flowerforyou:
    :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:

    :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
  • Mr_Cape219
    Mr_Cape219 Posts: 1,345 Member
    This entire topic is ludicrous. It's like the women's movement never happened.

    *headdesk*

    Someone call me when this website moves out of the 1950's.

    :flowerforyou:
    :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:

    :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:

    :drinker:
  • chocl8girl
    chocl8girl Posts: 1,968 Member
    Nope. And the fact that anyone even wastes their time asking this question is sad...
  • trojanbb
    trojanbb Posts: 1,297 Member
    I love this. A bunch of men... worrying about their figures and counting up their calories (I presume, since that's a big reason most of us are here)... gathering up together to discuss their feelings... about how men aren't manly anymore. Oh, and a they're also crying about not having any male role models to boot. Are you sure this group is really the right one to discuss the "crisis" of the decline of masculinity in our society?

    And for the record, I don't care if a man wants to keep in shape or discuss his feelings.... except when he's going to call out other guys for not being "manly enough".


    You clearly do not know what a man is. I wouldn't expect you to though. A man does what he wants because he is in control, he dominates nature. That means being in control of our physique and health. We aspire for greatness and make it happen, because we are in control. Masculinity is about confidence and drive and nothing epitomizes that more than bodybuilding.

    One day you'll grow up and meet a real man and understand.
  • trojanbb
    trojanbb Posts: 1,297 Member
    I love this. A bunch of men... worrying about their figures and counting up their calories (I presume, since that's a big reason most of us are here)... gathering up together to discuss their feelings... about how men aren't manly anymore. Oh, and a they're also crying about not having any male role models to boot. Are you sure this group is really the right one to discuss the "crisis" of the decline of masculinity in our society?

    And for the record, I don't care if a man wants to keep in shape or discuss his feelings.... except when he's going to call out other guys for not being "manly enough".


    Quite. The bigger the muscles, the less of the man, if this thread is to be taken as indicative. Caring about whether you come across as "manly" enough is so gay.

    Oh please! You have made it QUITE clear in several threads that you are "intimidated" by muscles. You call them "unattractive"...the truth however is simpler and obvious. You are insecure. The word dreaded above all by women. Insecurity.

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