Lance Armstrong admits to cheating.
wow! really disappointing. he was so smug and swore up and down about his innocence.
technically he's "dropping the fight"
"Details are still trickling in at this moment, but the Associated Press is reporting that seven-time Tour de France-winning cyclist Lance Armstrong has dropped his fight against doping charges leveled at him by the US Anti-Doping Agency. This means that he likely will be, as the Daily News puts it so succinctly, "stripped of Tour de France titles and banned for life." Specifically, he'll be stripped of all titles and accomplishments going back to August 1, 1998, including a bronze medal at the 2000 Summer Olympics."
http://deadspin.com/5937480/lance-armstrong-drops-fight-against-doping-charges-will-likely-be-stripped-of-tour-titles-and-banned-for-life
technically he's "dropping the fight"
"Details are still trickling in at this moment, but the Associated Press is reporting that seven-time Tour de France-winning cyclist Lance Armstrong has dropped his fight against doping charges leveled at him by the US Anti-Doping Agency. This means that he likely will be, as the Daily News puts it so succinctly, "stripped of Tour de France titles and banned for life." Specifically, he'll be stripped of all titles and accomplishments going back to August 1, 1998, including a bronze medal at the 2000 Summer Olympics."
http://deadspin.com/5937480/lance-armstrong-drops-fight-against-doping-charges-will-likely-be-stripped-of-tour-titles-and-banned-for-life
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he said:
In a statement sent to the AP, Armstrong said: “Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities.”
Did he cheat? I don't know. Did he ADMIT TO CHEATING? I've read nothing that suggests he has.0 -
so if he's innocent hes going to let them strip him of everything he's won? nobody would do that. nobody would give you their legacy.0
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this is probably what is happening. he knows the US anti doping agency has all the evidence it needs and that he will lose. so now he will just try to walk away to leave doubt in some people's minds.0
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Again: HE HAS NOT ADMITTED TO CHEATING
Did he? Perhaps. Will he? Who knows. Meanwhile: Your topic heading is false.
In fact, he's done the OPPOSITE of admitting to cheating.
Interesting editorial from velo news:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/08/news/commentary-armstrong-the-martyr-changes-the-conversation-by-refusing-arbitration_2357120 -
yeah i definitely should have headed this wrong but it seems you cant edit the title.
but any reasonable person can see he's guilty of cheating. mountains of evidence and now he's not even going to fight it.
very disappoinnting. what will all the people he inspired think?0 -
.... what?!!?!? a celebrity cheated?!?!!?!
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I don't know if he has or not, but that doesn't mean he did. A lot of people just don't want to argue. He seems like he has other things that are more important to him. He may not feel he has anything to prove to anyone, only to himself.
But who knows.0 -
i don't feel he cheated. i'd have to have him outright say it. sometimes celebrities and such get attacked and they just settle. it isn't an admission of guilt. it's an admission of not being able to fight a bigger force and wanting to focus on something else. it sounds to me like he's retired and just done with this era of his life. he knows what he did, and he's been tested, was testing during the races. that should stand up to his real fans and those he inspired! it does for me!
http://www.thestar.com/sports/article/1246408--lance-armstrong-drops-fight-against-anti-doping-agency-puts-7-tour-wins-at-risk
Armstrong, who retired last year, declined to enter arbitration — his last option — because he said he was weary of fighting accusations that have dogged him for years. He has consistently pointed to the hundreds of drug tests that he has passed as proof of his innocence.
“There comes a point in every man’s life when he has to say, ‘Enough is enough.’ For me, that time is now,” Armstrong said in a statement sent to The Associated Press. He called the USADA investigation an “unconstitutional witch hunt.”
“I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999,” he said. “The toll this has taken on my family and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today — finished with this nonsense.”0 -
If he did not cheat and is just giving up on the issue, he lacks principle. I would have more respect for him if he came out and admitted to cheating, if that is the case. I tend to believe it is. However, I cannot fault a cancer survivor with one testicle trying to regain a competitive edge in one of the most grueling endurance races in the world.
If he cheated, how much did it really help him? Who is to say? His dominance could not all be attributed to the alleged doping, in my opinion.0 -
he said:
In a statement sent to the AP, Armstrong said: “Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities.”
Did he cheat? I don't know. Did he ADMIT TO CHEATING? I've read nothing that suggests he has.
^This.0 -
Again: HE HAS NOT ADMITTED TO CHEATING
Did he? Perhaps. Will he? Who knows. Meanwhile: Your topic heading is false.
In fact, he's done the OPPOSITE of admitting to cheating.
Interesting editorial from velo news:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/08/news/commentary-armstrong-the-martyr-changes-the-conversation-by-refusing-arbitration_235712
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yeah i definitely should have headed this wrong but it seems you cant edit the title.
but any reasonable person can see he's guilty of cheating. mountains of evidence and now he's not even going to fight it.
very disappoinnting. what will all the people he inspired think?
mountains of evidence?
All the articles I've been reading (multiple sources) say he's been tested CLEAN 100s of times...so...who has this evidence?
I don't know him personally and am not involved in the cycling world; I can't speculate on whether he did or didn't.
But not fighting doesn't automatically = guilt.0 -
yeah i definitely should have headed this wrong but it seems you cant edit the title.
but any reasonable person can see he's guilty of cheating. mountains of evidence and now he's not even going to fight it.
very disappoinnting. what will all the people he inspired think?
All the people he inspired will think the same thing they think when another sports idol gets exposed- "I probably shouldn't put so much faith in someone that I barely know who gets paid to do what kids do for free." I was a big Mark McGwire fan when I was a kid, but was I shocked when he was accused of steroid use (which he subsequently admitted)? No. You know why? Because he was built like a pro wrestler. In my childhood room, I had 3 posters- McGwire, Darryl Strawberry and Lawrence Taylor. Was I shocked when Darryl and LT admitted drug use? No. I was thankful for the production they brought to their respective teams.
What I'm trying to say is that this story will be hued according to your own personal prism. You can look at Armstrong as a cheat, which he more than likely is, and feel that you were misled into feeling empathy for him and being inspired by him and wearing yellow bracelets... OR... you can look at him as a cheat who brought increased awareness to cancer and raised over $500 million for cancer research, which in turn helped save lives. Yeah, he's a prick. And yeah, he's a really good guy (maybe to make up for being a prick). Nobody is just one thing- it's the duality of man- 2 sides of the same coin. In many ways, it's not clothes or money but contradictions that makes the man. People are fallible (well, people not named Derek Jeter, who may very well be the 37th reincarnation of Buddha), which is why many people look to religion, because only god is infallible, or so I've been told. Or if you're like me, you place no faith in man or spirit, still try to do more right than wrong, and enjoy sports for what they are- games. Games being played by men/women in suspended adolescence/arrested development.
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There is no unified regulating body in cycling. This is the same thing as boxing. An organization can take THEIR belt, but not others. USADA saying he is "stripped" means the same thing as me saying he's stripped. They have control over "their" world and records, but it's not an end all be all.
He didn't say he cheated, he basically said he doesn't give a **** what they say because they can't take his money LOL.0 -
That's sad but if he was guilty, I bet he will feel much better about admitting it. I can't imagine being in his shoes though and won't even try. I think being famous would be one of the hardest things in the world.
denisewow! really disappointing. he was so smug and swore up and down about his innocence.
technically he's "dropping the fight"
"Details are still trickling in at this moment, but the Associated Press is reporting that seven-time Tour de France-winning cyclist Lance Armstrong has dropped his fight against doping charges leveled at him by the US Anti-Doping Agency. This means that he likely will be, as the Daily News puts it so succinctly, "stripped of Tour de France titles and banned for life." Specifically, he'll be stripped of all titles and accomplishments going back to August 1, 1998, including a bronze medal at the 2000 Summer Olympics."
http://deadspin.com/5937480/lance-armstrong-drops-fight-against-doping-charges-will-likely-be-stripped-of-tour-titles-and-banned-for-life0 -
He did not admit to cheating. You are a fibber.0
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Saying he's "Stripped of His Titles" is a better headline than "Armstrong was Stripped of His Titles by One of Several Organizations that Proclaims to Be the End All in Cycling"
I'm actually watching SportsCenter at the moment.0 -
I'm sorry but I have now read 5 different articles about this and not in one of them does it say that he admitted to cheating.
You clearly did NOT read through the article you linked to before you posted it with such a misleading title.0 -
Kind of hypocrite society we live in. Everybody in sports cheats literally. Those scumbags in the government should clean their freaking closets before trying to clean up somebody else's *kitten*. Same people he raced with cheated too and lost to him. Nothing ever changes with sports in this era or the next. Everyone will be cheat but I guess you are only a cheater when you are caught.0
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At this point, does it even matter? They're arguing over long-gone events. It's in the past and as far as I see it, no one but the people accusing him cares.0
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^^^ This. I was reading an article the other day that, in a nuthell, said the US courts were staying out of it since it's an international sport that should be dealt w/by it's international bodies, but that the US felt the org was overreaching and did not have the evidence to support their accusations. Doesn't sound like mountains of evidence to me...yeah i definitely should have headed this wrong but it seems you cant edit the title.
but any reasonable person can see he's guilty of cheating. mountains of evidence and now he's not even going to fight it.
very disappoinnting. what will all the people he inspired think?
mountains of evidence?
All the articles I've been reading (multiple sources) say he's been tested CLEAN 100s of times...so...who has this evidence?
I don't know him personally and am not involved in the cycling world; I can't speculate on whether he did or didn't.
But not fighting doesn't automatically = guilt.0 -
Lance didn't admit cheating but It looks like he did.
Lance has MEGABUCK sponsors that would have him fight it out if it were 100 false.
I think there were about a dozen former teammates that were going to testify against him...0 -
He was tested after every race. He always tested clean. The "Anti's" don't believe the tests? Sounds like a witch hunt to me. Where is the evidence? Present it. Get it over with. Shouldn't take forever. He has another life now and wants to get on with it. He knows he won the races and didn't or did use drugs. There are more important battles to fight these days.0
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and now he's not even going to fight it.
There comes a point in everyone's life, where they just say enough is enough. Get these cameras out of my face, I will pay or do what ever you wish. Believe it or not it is torment to be placed in that position... I don't speak from experience but just look at the number of people who have committed suicide from the press exposure and invasion of privacy
I haven't seen any of the evidence, that is said to be against him, only hear say...
Say he did cheat, who cares...
but as it stands, I just see him saying... f*** it... it isn't worth this headache.
He did what he wanted, to raise awareness about cancer and raised moneys for the research. Those who benefited from that research are the true winners here.0 -
Reading comprehension is key.0
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I'm sorry but I have now read 5 different articles about this and not in one of them does it say that he admitted to cheating.
You clearly did NOT read through the article you linked to before you posted it with such a misleading title.
no, he'll never admit that he did. but, if he didn't, he seems to be the only one that had any success in his profession that didn't. and he destroyed all of those that did. so kind of tough to imagine that he was clean that whole time.
and no matter what kind of pretty bow is put on it, he left his wife after she stood by him through all of his cancer treatment. which is pretty weak, too.0 -
Two reasons I could see him dropping this fight...
1. He suspected he could not win the fight... either due to guilt OR strong circumstantial evidence...
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2. He is TIRED of the fight and is just ready to move on.
This is America. He is innocent until PROVEN guilty. I understand the guilty by default thought process but I also understand that we all have to pick our battles. At the end of this day... we still know nothing...0 -
Man if I was him, went through cancer, had to deal with the thought of dying every day but overcame it, I'd have no patience for bureaucratic bs. They were bullying Armstrong.
Are we going to start taking gold albums and grammys and oscars away now because maybe musicians and actors were high or something while performing? Are we going to throw out the works of philosophers because they smoked something or dropped ancient acid?
No. Armstrong does a huge amount of good in the world and it frankly disgusts me that the anti-drug commission wants to take down a symbol like him so hard they're willing to do whatever to get their way and spread their opinion, even if it damages people's faith or Armstrong's cancer organization.
Leave the man be. Seven years in a row and they couldn't prove it before the third? Seems suspect in my opinion.
Good on him for not dealing with this bs anymore.0 -
like i said i wish i could change the title but for some reason MFP does not let you.
and as for the mountains of evidence..there have been countless people that have claimed he cheated.
i dont actually have a problem with him cheating...seems like all cyclists do it. but i hate the way he was so smug.0 -
Man if I was him, went through cancer, had to deal with the thought of dying every day but overcame it, I'd have no patience for bureaucratic bs. They were bullying Armstrong.
Are we going to start taking gold albums and grammys and oscars away now because maybe musicians and actors were high or something while performing? Are we going to throw out the works of philosophers because they smoked something or dropped ancient acid?
No. Armstrong does a huge amount of good in the world and it frankly disgusts me that the anti-drug commission wants to take down a symbol like him so hard they're willing to do whatever to get their way and spread their opinion, even if it damages people's faith or Armstrong's cancer organization.
Leave the man be. Seven years in a row and they couldn't prove it before the third? Seems suspect in my opinion.
Good on him for not dealing with this bs anymore.
lol at comparing a musician and an athlete. takng away Grammy's?
you must not follow sports if you dont think this is an issue or that he deserves to be let off because he does good works.0
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