"It doesn't matter what you eat, IIFYM."
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"If doesn't matter what you eat, as long as it fits your macros, is in your calorie limit, etc". (and assuming you are getting your nutrients somehow) -- You will still lose weight.
Do you think this is true?
I don't think it to be true, I KNOW it to be true. Its just a fact that human body will lose weight if they are in a calorie deficit (most of the time), you don't even have to have the right macros.0 -
If only I could survive on peanut butter, potato chips and chocolate chip cookies. What a great thing it would be.
You can. You wouldn't survive for as long as others but you'd still survive.0 -
Yes, it is a sensible way to structure your eating and keep you in deficit. It allows you a bit of flexibility to have some "non diet" food in your intake.
However, it is a bit misunderstood. If you are balancing your macros you can't simply have a diet full of junk food and think you are doing IIFYM. The idea is to hit all or near to your macro goals and your calorie goals. If you have a goal of say 2000 calories and 180g of protein and you eat donuts all day you will end up going over your carb and fat goals but leaving only say 300 calories to get say 160g of protein.
Not going to happen is it...
300 calories is more like 75grams of protein. Even worse.
What food contains 75 grams of protein and only has 300 calories?
Bison...maybe.0 -
Yes, it is a sensible way to structure your eating and keep you in deficit. It allows you a bit of flexibility to have some "non diet" food in your intake.
However, it is a bit misunderstood. If you are balancing your macros you can't simply have a diet full of junk food and think you are doing IIFYM. The idea is to hit all or near to your macro goals and your calorie goals. If you have a goal of say 2000 calories and 180g of protein and you eat donuts all day you will end up going over your carb and fat goals but leaving only say 300 calories to get say 160g of protein.
Not going to happen is it...
300 calories is more like 75grams of protein. Even worse.
What food contains 75 grams of protein and only has 300 calories?
Bison...maybe.
Pure protein.0 -
So many idiots in this thread. Of course IIFYM works. If you are eating so called 'clean foods' and hitting your daily goals of fats, proteins, carbs, then you are following a IIFYM principle and it will have the same affect on body fat composition as someone who is hitting their macros with so called 'junk' food.0
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What food contains 75 grams of protein and only has 300 calories?
egg whites, protein powder0 -
These threads are so frustrating.
Why do people think that IIFYM means ONLY "junk" food?
Why does it have to be all or nothing?
I go by IIFYM and eat decent, but have my treats and junk. Flexible dieting is easier, makes me happier, easy to stick with, and easy to maintain my weight with.0 -
My only problem with IIFYM (mainly due to what I see on this site) is it gives people who are morbidly obese an excuse to crush pints of Ben and Jerry's because they saw a thin person post it in their diary. Many of the proponents of IIFYM on this site were never fat. Nothing against them - they were blessed with a healthy metabolism and they do hit the gym every day (and by gym, I mean a gym with weights, not a DVD). However, they could always eat 4000 cals a day and not gain a pound for whatever reason.
What makes you think we have a blessed metabolism and wont get fat?
I follow IIFYM and used to be chunkers.0 -
Not enough people using MFP even look at their macros...they think as long as they are within their calorie goal all is fine. It KILLS me. KILLS me ;-(0
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My only problem with IIFYM (mainly due to what I see on this site) is it gives people who are morbidly obese an excuse to crush pints of Ben and Jerry's because they saw a thin person post it in their diary.
There is NO way to fit "pints of Ben and Jerry's" into your macros when you are losing weight. I've been able to fit in a cup of vanilla with 2tbsp of chocolate syrup. That's as much as I've been able to fit into my macros on a given day.
I think IIFYM does not mean what you think it means.0 -
What food contains 75 grams of protein and only has 300 calories?
egg whites, protein powder
Protein powder isn't food,and egg whites are only half a food, so they don't count in my book.0 -
Yes you will still lose weight! But....you may not get all of the nutrients you need. I feel that you can eat a lot more of healthy foods than you can the unhealthy ones. I believe it is best to eat as "clean" as possible on most days. But every once in a while it is okay to eat something not so healthy! Something you really want!
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The vast majority of people who are using flexible dieting correctly, are consuming a very nutrient rich diet.
The nutrient argument doesn't apply because people who eat a diet full of junk food are not practicing IIFYM, they are practicing stupidity. There's a difference, but for some unknown reason people can't seem to grasp that there's a middle ground that lies between clean eating dogma and "McDonalds all day every day".
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149278603 <---- post #7 for some good vids.0 -
Sure, other than the fact that waffles are complex carbs... It always amuses me when people use terms without having a clue what they actually mean.What? Syrup? Nutrients? You ate non-complex carbs x 3. Of course you'll feel gross, sluggish, brain-foggy. It's the waffle, not the syrup, I can almost guarantee.0 -
no don't think so.0
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I think it is psychological. But honestly... did you eat all three waffles at once? That much food will make anybody sick whether you are eating waffles or celery sticks.0
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Sure, other than the fact that waffles are complex carbs... It always amuses me when people use terms without having a clue what they actually mean.What? Syrup? Nutrients? You ate non-complex carbs x 3. Of course you'll feel gross, sluggish, brain-foggy. It's the waffle, not the syrup, I can almost guarantee.
I am so glad you said that... I thought I knew what a simple and complex carb was until I started using this site and then I got all confused.
Just to clarify... a complex carb is one that has been combined with other ingredients, right? And the simple carb is the singular ingredient like rice and potatoes, right?0 -
Most days I eat close to 2000 calories a day, even on days I dont work out. So no not all calories are the same. Out of that 2000 calories most of it is through protein.0
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What food contains 75 grams of protein and only has 300 calories?
egg whites, protein powder
agree!0 -
I'm so feeling this morning. I ate horrible food yesterday but stayed in my "goal" range. I got pats on the back up and down my page for staying in my calories but I feel awful. Physically and emotionally! All those empty carbs just set me up for failure and cravings for next day
don't get me wrong love carbs but usually make better choices. 0 -
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002469.htm
Carbohydrates are classified as simple or complex. The classification depends on the chemical structure of the food, and how quickly the sugar is digested and absorbed. Simple carbohydrates have one (single) or two (double) sugars. Complex carbohydrates have three or more sugars.
Examples of single sugars from foods include:
Fructose (found in fruits)
Galactose (found in milk products)
Double sugars include:
Lactose (found in dairy)
Maltose (found in certain vegetables and in beer)
Sucrose (table sugar)
Honey is also a double sugar. But unlike table sugar, it contains a small amount of vitamins and minerals. (Note: Honey should not be given to children younger than 1 year old.)
Complex carbohydrates, often referred to as "starchy" foods, include:
Legumes
Starchy vegetables
Whole-grain breads and cereals
Simple carbohydrates that contain vitamins and minerals occur naturally in:
Fruits
Milk and milk products
Vegetables
Simple carbohydrates are also found in processed and refined sugars such as:
Candy
Regular (nondiet) carbonated beverages, such as soda
Syrups
Table sugar
Refined sugars provide calories, but lack vitamins, minerals, and fiber. Such simple sugars are often called "empty calories" and can lead to weight gain.
Also, many refined foods, such as white flour, sugar, and white rice, lack B vitamins and other important nutrients unless they are marked "enriched." It is healthiest to get carbohydrates, vitamins, and other nutrients in as natural a form as possible -- for example, from fruit instead of table sugar.0 -
What food contains 75 grams of protein and only has 300 calories?
egg whites, protein powder
Protein powder isn't food,and egg whites are only half a food, so they don't count in my book.
It still has calories / protein in it, so it should still be counted. And egg whites are still food too. If people just keep saying some things "just dont count" wed all be over weight.0 -
The vast majority of people who are using flexible dieting correctly, are consuming a very nutrient rich diet.
The nutrient argument doesn't apply because people who eat a diet full of junk food are not practicing IIFYM, they are practicing stupidity. There's a difference, but for some unknown reason people can't seem to grasp that there's a middle ground that lies between clean eating dogma and "McDonalds all day every day".
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149278603 <---- post #7 for some good vids.
Considering myself lucky to be one of the people in the "middle" - I know that I can eat healthy & eat junk - at the same time. It's not one or the other. Like someone else already said - I don't think you realize what IIFYM really means.
And yes, I used to be pretty fat. And I'm still sort of fat. And I eat pizza, ice cream, pasta, etc. I have 2 mini cupcakes sitting on my desk right now - just waiting for me to enjoy them. But I also had a egg & veggie breakfast burrito, will be having bean and veggie stew for lunch, I'm eating strawberries and a banana as my other snacks today, and I will be having steak fajitas (with lots of peppers!) for dinner. So how is my diet not balanced?0 -
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Maybe it's because you ate three of them instead of one or two. That might have less to do with the food quality and more to do with your taste buds. Lots o' sugar.
When you try to make everything fit in your macros, your diet is going to be pretty balanced. And honestly, I think that as long as it fits into your calorie limit, regardless of macros, you'll lose weight. You'll certainly feel better if you don't eat 1500 calories of chips instead of a balanced diet, though.0 -
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The vast majority of people who are using flexible dieting correctly, are consuming a very nutrient rich diet.
The nutrient argument doesn't apply because people who eat a diet full of junk food are not practicing IIFYM, they are practicing stupidity. There's a difference, but for some unknown reason people can't seem to grasp that there's a middle ground that lies between clean eating dogma and "McDonalds all day every day".
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149278603 <---- post #7 for some good vids.
What??? You mean my only 2 choices aren't junk food or to eat "clean"???? Why that..............that just..............
makes sense acutally.
Extreme comparisons are ridiculous. If that is how you view it and you don't apply a little common sense it is nothing but stupidity.0 -
Maybe the waffles she ate were.....blue?0
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Maybe the waffles she ate were.....blue?
This comment goes very well with your picture... (looks like you took it after you just finished typing it)0 -
I think it is psychological. But honestly... did you eat all three waffles at once? That much food will make anybody sick whether you are eating waffles or celery sticks.
That's not true. Before MFP, I usually ate 4-5 waffles loaded with butter and syrup. Now I eat 3 and 1/4 cup of syrup and just a pat of butter on top. Three waffles is NOT very much actually.0
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