Man to Man: A Support System for Men

mromnek

I apologize before this post... my dad forwarded this to me. :blushing:


I was in the restaurant yesterday when I suddenly realized I desperately needed to pass gas.
The music was really, really loud, so I timed my gas with the beat of the music.
After a couple of songs, I started to feel better. I finished my coffee, and noticed that everybody was staring at me.
....Then I suddenly remembered that I was listening to my iPod. :laugh: :laugh:

Anyone else have this problem following a diet with increased fiber?!? :sad:

CasperO

Dude,,, you made me spray my monitor! That's riotous!.

Yes, it's a real problem. Not only a lot of gas, but exceptional "quality" of gas. Seriously sulfuric deathgas,,, like, paint-peeling green cloud gas. My wife is ready to get a cork, or a gun.

She wants me to go outside, and I'm starting to do it when I'm having one of "those" days.

Rev_no_Boosh

The change in diet definitely has odoriferous effects. I agree with Casper. My experience has been no so much with quantity but with the down wind birds that keep falling out of the sky.

gr8dad1975

I was "regular" before, but now I am.....let's just say my system is very clean. And with regard to the gas, I am a walking "time bomb" :noway: :laugh: :laugh:

rstarks54

count me in!

mromnek

The other night, my wife were lying in bed. I was rubbing my wife's back with the dog between us. I let a nice melodious release, and she thought it was the dog growling. She asked, "What's he growling about?" I told her he was jealous that I was rubbing her back and not him!!! :laugh: :laugh:

CasperO

I try to blame farts on the dog, but the dog protests, and my wife trust the dog more than me. As well she should.

gr8dad1975

I try to blame farts on the dog, but the dog protests, and my wife trust the dog more than me. As well she should.

I blame the kids :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

FORKDOWN

Man there are certain days where it is just best you are alone when you have had too much fiber. :sick:

I tried getting some jeans this weekend. Big gut plus no butt equals no luck. :mad:

I'll try next month. :bigsmile:

gr8dad1975

Hey Guys

I have really been enjoying the support, friendship, and fun that is found here at the Man to Man Forum. We are all various ages, sizes, and backgrounds, but when we get together none of that matters. I look forward to checking out the posts, which can be informative, funny, and just downright weird. But this is what makes the Man to Man Forum what it is. You men do an awesome job for one another and I just wanted to take a moment to point that out. :drinker:

Okay enough of that.................NOW BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED CRAZINESS!!!!::bigsmile:

FORKDOWN

I was gonna wake up grouchy this morning..........




But decided to let her sleep in.
:bigsmile:

solerstation

Goodmorning all. I'm new to this. Not sure what to write so i'll just read topics for now. Have a great day!!

gr8dad1975

@ solerstation

Welcome aboard! We are glad to have you here at the Man to Man Forum. Let us know if we can doing anything to help.

Have a great day!

solerstation

Right on Gr8dad, I'm in!!

whyflysouth

With regards to the gas caused by healthy eating. I find that on my extended workout sessions at the gym I got to let them loose. Anything improper with that? I never had to before but I think its due to my dedication and effort in exercise...

golfdell

whyflysouth..

Have to say that I have been there done that and most probably will so again.

CasperO

That kind'a depends on where you are:

A real musclehead gym with big plates of iron and lot'sa mirrors? It's expected and approved and sometimes appreciated.

Your basic YMCA/Bally's/Anytime fitness? not appreciated, but what happens happens. You are lifting weights there.

Planet Fitness? They don't allow grunting or straining, so I'm pretty sure they don't allow farting. Might set off the 'lunk alarm',,, :bigsmile: Wierd,,, they give away pizza and bagels, and those starches always give me gas.

whyflysouth

Well it's a Bally's but it's pretty run-down though. I wouldn't call it a classy establishment, lol. But yeah it'd be interesting to find one of those places where it's appreciated.

Hey more serious question, every guy wants to be muscular and cut and have a low body fat%. I'm skinny dude under a layer of fat, my pursuit has been to remove that fat and then get muscular without getting fat, but it's taking it's time and I appear to get muscle gains a little faster than fat losses, so should I just pursue getting the muscle mass first and focus on losing the fat later?

mromnek

Why pose it as an either/or question. Why not do both... since they are mutually compatible?

mromnek

Sorry to all... my dad forwarded me another good one...


I took my dad to the mall the other day to buy some new shoes
(he is 72). We decided to grab a bite at the food court. I noticed he
was watching a teenager sitting next to him. The teenager had spiked
hair in all different colors: green, red, orange, and blue.

My dad kept staring at him. The teenager would look and find
him staring every time. When the teenager had had enough, he
sarcastically asked, 'What's the matter old man, never done anything
wild in your life?'

Knowing my Dad, I quickly swallowed my food so that I would not
choke on his response, knowing he would have a good one, and in classic
style he did not bat an eye in his response.

'Got drunk once, and had sex with a peacock. I was just
wondering if you were my son.'

CasperO

Hey more serious question, every guy wants to be muscular and cut and have a low body fat%. I'm skinny dude under a layer of fat, my pursuit has been to remove that fat and then get muscular without getting fat, but it's taking it's time and I appear to get muscle gains a little faster than fat losses, so should I just pursue getting the muscle mass first and focus on losing the fat later?

They are not mutually compatible goals. In fact, they're almost mutually exclusive.

To gain muscle mass, you must have an excess of calories/proteins/building materials in your system. You're adding body mass, and that mass has to come from somewhere. Bodybuilders in a 'bulking cycle' eat phenomenal amounts of food - 5,ooo/6,ooo calories a day. They also lift like monsters and get lots of rest. They get bigger, huge in fact, and they get pretty fat. 3 or 4 months before a show, the Mr. Olympia contestants look like your dad's bowling team.

To lose bodyfat, you must be in calorie deficit. That means you're not eating enough to run the plant and your body has to 'burn' bodyfat to operate. That's how fat loss works, and it's the only way it works. With exercise and careful nutrition, you can maximize fat loss and conserve lean pretty well, but you're gonna lose some muscle too. Bodybuilders in a 'cutting cycle' eat very light, almost no refined carbs and very little fat. They live on lean meats, green vegetables, protein powder and vitamins. They also lift a little longer and a little lighter, and they do monster cardio to burn off cal's and bodyfat.

Anyways,,, either you're eating enough or you ain't. Very difficult to gain appreciable amounts of muscle mass while in a calorie deficit, and very very tough to lose bodyfat while in calorie surplus. A few rare genetic freaks can do it a little, very slowly. As a long time 'easy gainer', I've done it, and the progress is glacial. When I train seriously again it'll be with bulk&cut cycles.

Which to do first is up to you. What's more important to you - lean/trim or big/strong? My rule of thumb is "Cut 'til you see abs - then bulk for 15 pounds - then cut to abs again (and you'll lose 12 pounds, net muscle gain = 3 lbs).

gr8dad1975

Hey Guys

One of my friends sent this to me and asked if I could share it with you guys. So here goes..............


"A man was walking down the street when he was accosted by a particularly dirty and shabby-looking homeless man who asked him for a couple of dollars for dinner.

The man took out his wallet, extracted ten dollars and asked, "If I give you this money, will you buy some beer with it instead of dinner?"

"No, I had to stop drinking years ago," the homeless man replied.

"Will you use it to go fishing instead of buying food?" the man asked.

"No, I don't waste time fishing," the homeless man said. "I need to spend all my time trying to stay alive."



"Will you spend this on greens fees at a golf course instead of food?" the man asked.

"Are you NUTS!" replied the homeless man. "I haven't played golf in 20 years!"

"Will you spend the money on a woman in the red light district instead of food?" the man asked.

"What disease would I get for ten lousy bucks?" exclaimed the homeless man.

"Well," said the man, "I'm not going to give you the money. Instead, I'm going to take you home for a terrific dinner cooked by my wife."

The homeless man was astounded. "Won't your wife be furious with you for doing that? I know I'm dirty, and I probably smell pretty disgusting."

The man replied, "That's okay. It's important for her to see what a man looks like after he has given up beer, fishing, golf, and sex."

whyflysouth

If I'm trying to cut in that case, should I be increasing the weight when I lift or just leave it where it stands. What's the point of weight lifting at all if in the "cut" phase of caloric deficit if there's no excess to build up the muscles?

But thanks for that Casper, now I got to determine which route I want to take, bulk then cut, or cut first. I don't like how I feel when I'm fat so I'm veering more towards cut, but man it's slow.

CasperO

The body is constantly adjusting,,, adding fat when there's excess nutrition, removing fat when needed for fuel. Adding muscle as a response to stresses (needs for more muscle, because of workload/training). Even the bones are constantly adjusting as response to stress, adding or subtracting bone mass. A powerlifter's femurs are like telephone poles. This is why they recommend resistance training for women to minimize osteoporosis.

If you stop lifting/training altogether, as your body 'cannibalizes' itself for energy while in calorie deficit, it will strip some of your shiny new muscle too - hey, it's easy protein. If you keep some stress on your body with continued training it will go a long way toward minimizing loss of muscle tissue.

While cutting, most B-builders will still train to failure, but instead of 4 or 5 reps at 80% of max, they might stretch it out to 10 or 12 reps at 65% of max. And they add cardio. Lots of cardio.

mromnek

Hey more serious question, every guy wants to be muscular and cut and have a low body fat%. I'm skinny dude under a layer of fat, my pursuit has been to remove that fat and then get muscular without getting fat, but it's taking it's time and I appear to get muscle gains a little faster than fat losses, so should I just pursue getting the muscle mass first and focus on losing the fat later?

They are not mutually compatible goals. In fact, they're almost mutually exclusive.

Thanks for clearing that CasperO. I guess when I think of weight loss, I think in terms of body fat reduction. I got to remember that most people refer to a number on the scale.

FORKDOWN

So I am pushing for 250 by April 1st, 5lbs to go. I am wanting to start weightlifting more and have yet to come up with a training routine. Where is a great place to research?

solerstation

Eating healthy and burning calories. I'm feeling better each day!!

whyflysouth

So I am pushing for 250 by April 1st, 5lbs to go. I am wanting to start weightlifting more and have yet to come up with a training routine. Where is a great place to research?

CasperO's house.



J/k. Casper, when you said you'll start once you "see" your abs, what does that mean body fat %-wise? I mean we talkn' six-pack, or just those two verticle lines that separate the obliques from the core? We talkn 10-13% body fat, or 16-18%?

Forkdown, for you I've got the "Over 35" bodybuilding.com page: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11

CaptainJim157

Heys, I'm in, although I'm probably younger than most of you (only 19) I hope I can relate still, since I am a guy
since it's just us guys here, I made a post before, but no one is really answering to it, here's the situation:
I went to the hospital yesterday because I had pain in my "ahem",... Turns out I have "Epididymitis" :ohwell:
So it feels like someone punched me down there, but the soreness won't go away, anyways, I want to exercise still but it says to get lots of bedrest, any suggestions on light exercise but still a good way to burn calories? As walking and such gets the infection and inflammation going again. :grumble:

dkcj4fox

J/k. Casper, when you said you'll start once you "see" your abs, what does that mean body fat %-wise? I mean we talkn' six-pack, or just those two verticle lines that separate the obliques from the core? We talkn 10-13% body fat, or 16-18%?

I've always thought I was around 12-14% when my abs show....... I'll try to post a pic.....I don't mind taking my shirt off anymore....lost 25lbs last year!!! Anybody know if I am 12-14% ????? I've never taken a real body fat test before?