Heavy lifters, do you get offended when...?
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Heavy is relative. What is heavy for me may not be heavy for you. What bothers me is people who think they are "lifting heavy" but they have ****y form. Drop 90 lbs. off of that squat and squat deeper.
That also bothers me. People lifting heavy with sloppy form is a gateway to injuries.0 -
I'm between untrained and novice, but I'm only on like week 6-7. I don't brag about how much Ilift, I brag about how hard I work - and that's what actually matters. We all start out at different levels of fitness.0
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I thought "heavy lifting" meant that your own muscles were being challenged, after 10-15 reps, you're straining to complete the repDo you get offended when people who don't lift heavy, claim that they are heavy lifters?
According to these standards, I fall in between advanced and elite. I've been back in the gym for about 1.5 years now after a 4 year hiatus. I know some people at the gym that have been lifting for years and are nowhere near these standards for their years of experience, yet they brag to all their friends about how heavy they lift.
http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.htm
So I thought that term applied to the effect it has on your body, not to a weight range value.
In my opinion, if you can do 15 reps, that weight isn't heavy enough.0 -
No. I don't get offended easily. I doesn't matter to me if people say they "lift heavy" and they aren't "power lifting". As long as they've got their butt in the gym (or at home) and are doing something with a weight that isn't pink, I'm all for it.0
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I thought "heavy lifting" meant that your own muscles were being challenged, after 10-15 reps, you're straining to complete the repDo you get offended when people who don't lift heavy, claim that they are heavy lifters?
According to these standards, I fall in between advanced and elite. I've been back in the gym for about 1.5 years now after a 4 year hiatus. I know some people at the gym that have been lifting for years and are nowhere near these standards for their years of experience, yet they brag to all their friends about how heavy they lift.
http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.htm
So I thought that term applied to the effect it has on your body, not to a weight range value.
well, you're right in a sense. It's a relative term and it is HEAVY for YOU if you are struggling to complete another rep (more like after 8) but it isn't heavy in an objective sense...does that make sense? Like someone else your size who is more trained would be able to do more.0 -
I think it's silly to brag about it. I'm a heavy lifter for a girl and I just don't tell other girls anymore what I lift because they are intimidated. I can't help it if they SEE me lifting heavy, but I just don't say what I lift. Besides my goal is more to look good than the amount, but I can't help that the amount needs to go up as I get stronger. But I think it is different for the guys probably?
I don't care what the amount is. Only that I'm working hard enough. Doing the right amount of weights for the reps being done, or the super set, or pyramid, or circuit, or whatever.
The key is that you do the right amount of weight for YOU.0 -
yea i agree with this. I look skinny as crap but i lift same or even more than people with like 30lbs on me.i must be doing something right, I get compliments almost every gym visit now from random people.
I guess it helps being a skinny b#$$2 and strong.
I love that feeling! I'm 165-170, yet I outlift most 200 pounders at my gym.0 -
"In my opinion, if you can do 15 reps, that weight isn't heavy enough."
Good to know.
So the number of reps should be 8-10, with the last few very difficult?0 -
"In my opinion, if you can do 15 reps, that weight isn't heavy enough."
Good to know.
So the number of reps should be 8-10, with the last few very difficult?
It depends on your goal (hypertrphy vs. strength):
hypertrophy training utilizes shorter rest periods and more reps (10-12 maybe)
strength training emphasizes low-reps and higher weight with longer rest periods (maybe 4-6 reps)0 -
If you don't say that you lift heavy, then you run the risk of getting an annoying lecture about how you must be "toning with pink barbie weights to avoid being bulky" for the 10,000th time.
I lift as heavy as I can lift, while maintaining form and not injuring my long term injuries. When I am able to increase, I increase (and that is happening at a good, steady rate). I lift heavy for me. It's not heavy for other people. And I would never brag about how heavy I lift. I lift weights for recreational fitness. I would never claim to be some kind of professional lifter.
These MFP threads are getting so petty.0 -
I think it's silly to brag about it. I'm a heavy lifter for a girl and I just don't tell other girls anymore what I lift because they are intimidated. I can't help it if they SEE me lifting heavy, but I just don't say what I lift. Besides my goal is more to look good than the amount, but I can't help that the amount needs to go up as I get stronger. But I think it is different for the guys probably?
I don't care what the amount is. Only that I'm working hard enough. Doing the right amount of weights for the reps being done, or the super set, or pyramid, or circuit, or whatever.
The key is that you do the right amount of weight for YOU.
Exactly. According to the chart I'm at the advance level of everything. But I I stay in the 12-15 rep range. Why? Because I'm training for aesthetics not to be a power-lifter.0 -
"In my opinion, if you can do 15 reps, that weight isn't heavy enough."
Good to know.
So the number of reps should be 8-10, with the last few very difficult?
It depends. If you are doing a pyramid 21 reps / 13 reps / 8 reps / 5 reps / 8 reps / 13 reps/ 21 reps
The weight needs to be according to the set.
Other days are different routines, circuits, super sets, regular sets (10 reps), and all kinds of switching up routines (That is what is great about the Adonis Index Workout and the Venus Index Workout)
You can't lift heavy all the time (well you can)
But if you change it up, well, it changed my body to what it is today. Been doing this workout a year now and out of over 30 years of lifting this is the best I've ever looked and the strongest I've ever been!0 -
"In my opinion, if you can do 15 reps, that weight isn't heavy enough."
Good to know.
So the number of reps should be 8-10, with the last few very difficult?
It depends. If you are doing a pyramid 21 reps / 13 reps / 8 reps / 5 reps / 8 reps / 13 reps/ 21 reps
The weight needs to be according to the set.
Other days are different routines, circuits, super sets, regular sets (10 reps), and all kinds of switching up routines (That is what is great about the Adonis Index Workout and the Venus Index Workout)
You can't lift heavy all the time (well you can)
But if you change it up, well, it changed my body to what it is today. Been doing this workout a year now and out of over 30 years of lifting this is the best I've ever looked and the strongest I've ever been!
21 reps? wholly moley. I've never done that many.0 -
I think it's silly to brag about it. I'm a heavy lifter for a girl and I just don't tell other girls anymore what I lift because they are intimidated. I can't help it if they SEE me lifting heavy, but I just don't say what I lift. Besides my goal is more to look good than the amount, but I can't help that the amount needs to go up as I get stronger. But I think it is different for the guys probably?
I don't care what the amount is. Only that I'm working hard enough. Doing the right amount of weights for the reps being done, or the super set, or pyramid, or circuit, or whatever.
The key is that you do the right amount of weight for YOU.
Exactly. According to the chart I'm at the advance level of everything. But I I stay in the 12-15 rep range. Why? Because I'm training for aesthetics not to be a power-lifter.
Ahhh you limit yourself. You need to try Venus Index. You are ready for the advanced workouts already. You are already HOT, this advanced stuff I'm doing would be amazing for you. The standard 10 reps, or 12-15, that is old school stuff.0 -
No because heavy is relative to each individual.
This.0 -
No because heavy is relative to each individual.
Yep - This. When I lift, I lift to failure, and do between 8-12 reps. And I do between 3-4 sets each. My reps get less with each set. I bump my weight up every 2-4 weeks depending on what I have achieved (i.e. if I can now do 15 reps).
But do I get offended by someone who says he is lifting heavy? No. Why would I care?0 -
I find this thread very interesting. I'm starting to do pure strength training, but I'm not going to be lifting weights. Once I can do one-arm pull ups and one-arm handstand push-ups, would that make me a heavy lifter? If I weighed 200 lbs when I get to that point, it would be equivalent to benching 400 lbs. Does that count?0
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I think it's silly to brag about it. I'm a heavy lifter for a girl and I just don't tell other girls anymore what I lift because they are intimidated. I can't help it if they SEE me lifting heavy, but I just don't say what I lift. Besides my goal is more to look good than the amount, but I can't help that the amount needs to go up as I get stronger. But I think it is different for the guys probably?
I don't care what the amount is. Only that I'm working hard enough. Doing the right amount of weights for the reps being done, or the super set, or pyramid, or circuit, or whatever.
The key is that you do the right amount of weight for YOU.
Exactly. According to the chart I'm at the advance level of everything. But I I stay in the 12-15 rep range. Why? Because I'm training for aesthetics not to be a power-lifter.
Ahhh you limit yourself. You need to try Venus Index. You are ready for the advanced workouts already. You are already HOT, this advanced stuff I'm doing would be amazing for you. The standard 10 reps, or 12-15, that is old school stuff.
I guess. I just move the weight up when I seem to be able to pump out 15 reps pretty easy. I'm just trying to get bigger. Its been working so far! I'm very old school. *L*0 -
What is heavy is different to every individual. U have to start somewhere.0
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"In my opinion, if you can do 15 reps, that weight isn't heavy enough."
Good to know.
So the number of reps should be 8-10, with the last few very difficult?
It depends. If you are doing a pyramid 21 reps / 13 reps / 8 reps / 5 reps / 8 reps / 13 reps/ 21 reps
The weight needs to be according to the set.
Other days are different routines, circuits, super sets, regular sets (10 reps), and all kinds of switching up routines (That is what is great about the Adonis Index Workout and the Venus Index Workout)
You can't lift heavy all the time (well you can)
But if you change it up, well, it changed my body to what it is today. Been doing this workout a year now and out of over 30 years of lifting this is the best I've ever looked and the strongest I've ever been!
21 reps? wholly moley. I've never done that many.
Yep that last set is REAL FUN! LOL But we only do pyramids for a few weeks, and can do some circuit and super set days in between. Then we have some modified pyramids, and other stuff. Always something different, every day, every week, it's AWESOME and never boring. Any type of pyramid like that makes me sore every time.0 -
Do you get offended when people who don't lift heavy, claim that they are heavy lifters?
According to these standards, I fall in between advanced and elite. I've been back in the gym for about 1.5 years now after a 4 year hiatus. I know some people at the gym that have been lifting for years and are nowhere near these standards for their years of experience, yet they brag to all their friends about how heavy they lift.
http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.htm
Maybe it makes them try harder. You need to stop worrying about what others say and do your own thing.
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Well, you can imagine I am at the most, novice.I think it's silly to brag about it. I'm a heavy lifter for a girl and I just don't tell other girls anymore what I lift because they are intimidated. I can't help it if they SEE me lifting heavy, but I just don't say what I lift. Besides my goal is more to look good than the amount, but I can't help that the amount needs to go up as I get stronger. But I think it is different for the guys probably?
I don't care what the amount is. Only that I'm working hard enough. Doing the right amount of weights for the reps being done, or the super set, or pyramid, or circuit, or whatever.
The key is that you do the right amount of weight for YOU.
Exactly. According to the chart I'm at the advance level of everything. But I I stay in the 12-15 rep range. Why? Because I'm training for aesthetics not to be a power-lifter.
Ahhh you limit yourself. You need to try Venus Index. You are ready for the advanced workouts already. You are already HOT, this advanced stuff I'm doing would be amazing for you. The standard 10 reps, or 12-15, that is old school stuff.
However, I LOVE doing this so far.
I already feel like superwoman (lol she's in there, somewhere!)
I have been doing the "old school stuff", but that's because I want to gain some strength/fitness and remain injury-free while I get a feel for all of this.
I will soon be ready for more challenge....I have higher weight/lower reps in mind.
I don't know how far on the Heavy-Lifting chart I want to get.
You ladies look beautiful, BTW:)0 -
I think it's silly to brag about it. I'm a heavy lifter for a girl and I just don't tell other girls anymore what I lift because they are intimidated. I can't help it if they SEE me lifting heavy, but I just don't say what I lift. Besides my goal is more to look good than the amount, but I can't help that the amount needs to go up as I get stronger. But I think it is different for the guys probably?
I don't care what the amount is. Only that I'm working hard enough. Doing the right amount of weights for the reps being done, or the super set, or pyramid, or circuit, or whatever.
The key is that you do the right amount of weight for YOU.
Exactly. According to the chart I'm at the advance level of everything. But I I stay in the 12-15 rep range. Why? Because I'm training for aesthetics not to be a power-lifter.
Ahhh you limit yourself. You need to try Venus Index. You are ready for the advanced workouts already. You are already HOT, this advanced stuff I'm doing would be amazing for you. The standard 10 reps, or 12-15, that is old school stuff.
I guess. I just move the weight up when I seem to be able to pump out 15 reps pretty easy. I'm just trying to get bigger. Its been working so far! I'm very old school. *L*
LOL well I was old school for over 30 years. I'm glad I changed it up. If you want to get bigger you should try this. I can give you some sample workouts if you message me. Give it a shot.0 -
it's annoying as ****--or when someone tries to make my HEAVY lifting appear UNheavy. WTF?!? Seriously!?
According to those standards I am
advanced/elite for bench
advanced for squat
advanced for deadlift
I want to try the power clean and power snatch but no olympic lifts allowed at my gym
Babe maybe you can help me when I'm back!
Babe, you're the strongest female lifter I know! Lift to body weight ratio, you outlift many men I know as well! Of course I'll teach you power cleans and snatch when you're back with me :-)0 -
I use to be a heavy lifter. Now I am a thin lifter.
LOL0 -
I am more offended by guys that load to heavy and do 1/4 squats. *kitten* to the grass is the only way.0
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LOL well I was old school for over 30 years. I'm glad I changed it up. If you want to get bigger you should try this. I can give you some sample workouts if you message me. Give it a shot.
Holy Bajolies your 51??? Cheers to you! :drinker:0 -
Why would I care? I'm competing against gravity, not them.0
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Why are you concerned what someone else says and/or does? (I didn't read the other posts... apologies if this is repetitive)Do you get offended when people who don't lift heavy, claim that they are heavy lifters?
According to these standards, I fall in between advanced and elite. I've been back in the gym for about 1.5 years now after a 4 year hiatus. I know some people at the gym that have been lifting for years and are nowhere near these standards for their years of experience, yet they brag to all their friends about how heavy they lift.
http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.htm0 -
anyone who brags about how much they lift better be a damn powerlifter or i couldn't give less of an f
I can't even tell you what my max bench is0
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