Pizza: not THAT unhealthy?
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If we can only have ONE slice... ahhhh0
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As I've been making my own pizzas at home (spinning the dough and all!) I thought I'd "weigh in" here...
There are basically two elements of pizza that will affect your weight-loss efforts: the crust, and the cheese. LUCKILY low-fat mozzarella cheese has less calories-per-serving than cheddar, and parmesan cheese has even less. So if you just go a little light, you'll probably find it rather easy to stay within your ranges. As far as the crust goes, I started making mini-homemade pizzas for lunch with a lightly-toasted tortilla shell. It makes a phenomenal "thin-crust" pizza, topped with a serving-size of Del Grosso sauce, deli-pepperoni (less salt than the Hormel bagged kind) mushrooms, black olives, onions, mild pepper rings, some italian seasoning, and cheese. You can also fold them in half as it's toasting and make what we call a Pizza Quesadilla!
I've also added "Generic - Bread Flour" to the food database at MFP in case people want to make their own crusts. Pizza dough usually consists of bread flour (approx 3 cups), olive oil (approx 2 tbls), a dash of salt, yeast, and water. You also have to use a sugar of some kind to activate the yeast - I prefer Honey or Brown Sugar for their hygroscopic characteristic - the ability to absorb moisture from the atmosphere (keeps crusts soft and moist!) But a majority of the sugar is actually consumed by the yeast, so your overall impact to calories is minimal.
My pizza quesadilla - before vegetables - comes in at 395 calories. We all know that veggies don't have much caloric content, so add as many as you want! Plus, you can make one in 10 minutes, and that INCLUDES rummaging through the 'fridge for all your ingredients!
Enjoy!
hot carss!!0 -
of course, everything in moderation. Plus if you aren't denying yourself you are less likely to over indulge. I make my own from scratch sometimes, I do my own dough - make a thin base, make a sauce with celery, carrots, onions and tomatoes and then fill it full of veg and some cheese, always amazing! I think some fresh store ones are okay, depending on the store but the frozen ones are terrible.0
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lol
That is all.0 -
Don't villainize certain types of food - that's a tactic people use to sell diet programs/books/make money.
All food can fit into a healthy eating plan.
My english muffin pizzas are full of win.0 -
Don't villainize certain types of food ...
What about poutine?0 -
Whenever we end up ordering pizza from Dominos I always get the nutrition list and calculate my toppings/etc. I usually order a thin crust pizza without cheese but with tons and TONS of veggies and make sure half of those are moist and flavorful (like spinach, pineapple etc.) and only stick to ham and chicken if I choose to have some meat on it. The entire medium sized pizza comes in around 6-800 calories for me then, if I want to eat the whole thing, I eat light during the day, but most of the time I share it with someone and only eat half
Pizza's bad if it's made overly greasy like the ones with 4 kinds of cheese (ew) and tons of pepperoni and sausage, etc. You could do a lot worse!0 -
Don't villainize certain types of food - that's a tactic people use to sell diet programs/books/make money.
All food can fit into a healthy eating plan.
My english muffin pizzas are full of win.
What about Satan burgers?0 -
Don't villainize certain types of food - that's a tactic people use to sell diet programs/books/make money.
All food can fit into a healthy eating plan.
My english muffin pizzas are full of win.
What about Satan burgers?
Obviously my poutine example was Satan poutine. Which has Satan burgers in it.0 -
Moderation = NOT ME So pizza for me is UNHEALTHY! It is my fitness kryptonite.
This is what a night of pizza looks like for me. Pizza Hut is my favorite. But I should include I have to have bread sticks too. mmm yum!
Pizza Hut (As Per Website) - Meat Lover's Stuffed Crust (Large), 3/8 pizza (1 slice)
Calories 1,500
Carbs 90
Fat 81
Protein 75
Sodium 5,1000 -
Don't villainize certain types of food - that's a tactic people use to sell diet programs/books/make money.
All food can fit into a healthy eating plan.
My english muffin pizzas are full of win.
What about Satan burgers?
Obviously my poutine example was Satan poutine. Which has Satan burgers in it.
Couldn't you have a Satan burger with a side of fries w/poutine? That seems reasonable. I mean... villainous.0 -
That's what your cheat day is for.
Moderation is key, and will limit what you can have ... but dangit, when I wanna pizza, I have a pizza. besides, save up those slices and you have lunch and dinner in a few portions too!
Admitedly, though, becareful on WHAT kinda pizza you get, like that meat lovers? Yeah, that's what I'd call a gutt bomb, but hey, once in a while wont hurt, enjoy yourself. Isn't that why we diet and exercise? So we can actually enjoy that thick slice of meat lover's pizza and not be worried about the consequences?0 -
Don't villainize certain types of food - that's a tactic people use to sell diet programs/books/make money.
All food can fit into a healthy eating plan.
My english muffin pizzas are full of win.
What about Satan burgers?
Obviously my poutine example was Satan poutine. Which has Satan burgers in it.
Couldn't you have a Satan burger with a side of fries w/poutine? That seems reasonable. I mean... villainous.
There's a place around my work - part of the reason I needed a diet in the first place, that makes all kinds of poutine dishes. Poutine supercharged with various meats or, um vegetables I think they're called...0 -
It depends on the pizza you eat. I try to stay away from pizza from places like Pizza Hut, though. I can never stop at just one piece. I know it's my weakness. So... I try to stick with homemade pizza. I actually haven't had any in a while.... since starting this journey.... but, I've been craving some good homemade pizza lately. I may just have to have that.0
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Don't villainize certain types of food - that's a tactic people use to sell diet programs/books/make money.
All food can fit into a healthy eating plan.
My english muffin pizzas are full of win.
What about Satan burgers?
Obviously my poutine example was Satan poutine. Which has Satan burgers in it.
what about Deviled Eggs?0 -
Yes, your pizza was low in calories because of the way it was prepared. Not all pizza is created equal. Types made with whole grain crust, low fat cheese, and vegetable or lean meat toppings can actually be good for you.0
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I make my own with a very thin layer of cheese and very thin slices of strong flavored meat (proscutto) and lots of fresh basal.
I can eat one per month or two.0 -
I agree that it is one of those things that portion control and the tendancy to over indulge is what most of the "unhealthy" is about pizza. One or two slices fit into your day, no problem. Half a pizza, problem, lol!
I've been into making my own lately, I take the Trader Joe's herb pizza dough and make a thin crust, top with some reduced fat cheese, mushrooms and diced lean ham, so yummy and really not that bad for you at all. And I get to eat the entire mini pizza for something like 380 calories. Very filling, hits the pizza spot and I don't feel bad abotu having it afterward, yum!0 -
Pizza Hut and the other chains that put together something that can loosely be called a "pizza" has tons of sodium to make up for the lack of flavor. That being said, pizza is something I eat at least once a week. I stick to two slices from a typical large combination style pizza and it fits nicely into my macros. Pizza gets a bad rap as junk food, but really if it's made well, it's can be a very filling meal that includes all the major food groups (grains, dairy, meat, veggies, fats).0
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I agree that it is one of those things that portion control and the tendancy to over indulge is what most of the "unhealthy" is about pizza. One or two slices fit into your day, no problem. Half a pizza, problem, lol!
I've been into making my own lately, I take the Trader Joe's herb pizza dough and make a thin crust, top with some reduced fat cheese, mushrooms and diced lean ham, so yummy and really not that bad for you at all. And I get to eat the entire mini pizza for something like 380 calories. Very filling, hits the pizza spot and I don't feel bad abotu having it afterward, yum!
I agree that this makes a great pizza. Pizza is one of those foods that you can make better by making it at home.0 -
The best pizza I ever had was at a place in Estero, FL (near Ft. Meyers). It had goat cheese, onion and tomatoes roasted in olive oil and garlic, no sauce.
OMG.
I try to recreate it at home with some basil on a pita in the toaster oven. Still yummy, but not nearly as good as the real thing.
And there's a chain here called Marco's that offers a garlic butter "wash" for the crust (they have others, but why would you choose something else??) that's to diie for.
I want pizza.0 -
Moderation = NOT ME So pizza for me is UNHEALTHY! It is my fitness kryptonite.
This is what a night of pizza looks like for me. Pizza Hut is my favorite. But I should include I have to have bread sticks too. mmm yum!
Pizza Hut (As Per Website) - Meat Lover's Stuffed Crust (Large), 3/8 pizza (1 slice)
Calories 1,500
Carbs 90
Fat 81
Protein 75
Sodium 5,100
Pizza Hut is not real pizza. Just eww! :sick:0 -
If we can only have ONE slice... ahhhh
If you can't get full off two slices then you are eating the WRONG pizza! :laugh:0 -
Yes, your pizza was low in calories because of the way it was prepared. Not all pizza is created equal. Types made with whole grain crust, low fat cheese, and vegetable or lean meat toppings should not be eaten
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Yes, your pizza was low in calories because of the way it was prepared. Not all pizza is created equal. Types made with whole grain crust, low fat cheese, and vegetable or lean meat toppings should not be eaten
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Why bother, right? If I'm going to eat pizza, I'm going to eat PIZZA.0 -
Every once and a while we'll order from Dominoes. Medium 2 topping pizzas. 2 slices is dinner, then 2 slices for lunch the next 3 days. Maybe with some other veggie to round out the meal (or a yogurt at lunch).
Something like pepper & onion, or maybe black olive and pepperoni.
Back in the day it would be a large pizza with sausage, pepperoni and extra cheese. and it certainly wouldn't be just 2 slices.
Big difference.
Guess which was unhealthy?0 -
Yes, your pizza was low in calories because of the way it was prepared. Not all pizza is created equal. Types made with whole grain crust, low fat cheese, and vegetable or lean meat toppings should not be eaten
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That's much better! Give me the sausage and extra cheese!0 -
I don't like pizza :laugh:0
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Moderation = NOT ME So pizza for me is UNHEALTHY! It is my fitness kryptonite.
This is what a night of pizza looks like for me. Pizza Hut is my favorite. But I should include I have to have bread sticks too. mmm yum!
Pizza Hut (As Per Website) - Meat Lover's Stuffed Crust (Large), 3/8 pizza (1 slice)
Calories 1,500
Carbs 90
Fat 81
Protein 75
Sodium 5,100
Pizza Hut is not real pizza. Just eww! :sick:
Sure taste good to me.
But please define "real pizza" because here where I am from, all pizza is like Pizza Hut, just their's taste the best.0 -
Everything is fine in moderation. Next topic, please.0
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