Gluten is the Devil

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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    I always thought gluten could only be found in baked goods - it's what gives dough its elasticity. How could it ever turn up in candy? :huh:

    Gluten is in a lot of things. It's a serious problem for people with Celiac's. I have a friend who had anal cancer and she has a lot of issues because of it. She's VERy sensitive to gluten. Even if there's a microscopic speck of it on the counter and it gets into, say, a chicken breast, she's sick for hours.

    She calls it "getting glutened."

    So, if you really and truly have a severe sensitivity to it, you'll know. And avoiding baked goods isn't enough.
  • dorothytd
    dorothytd Posts: 1,138 Member
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    Pfft. Lawyers.
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    Pfft. Meatheads.
  • GorillaEsq
    GorillaEsq Posts: 2,198 Member
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    Pfft. Lawyers.
    Pfft. Meatheads.
    Imagine the terror if they somehow combined?!?!?
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
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    Gluten intolerance maybe?

    Just like lactose intolerance.

    Another book you might want to read is 'The Paleo Solution' by Robb Wolfe.

    I'm not saying go caveman-ish in any sense of the word, but it's actually an entertaining book and goes along similar lines... I'm about to buy 'Wheat Belly' myself, and hope to have some good reading for next week :)
    I'm no doctor, but that's what my wife thinks. Everyone's body handles things differently, and apparently mine hates gluten.

    Just thank god your body doesn't hate beef. That would be depressing.
  • Illona88
    Illona88 Posts: 903 Member
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    I thought some dude named B. Elsie Bob was the devil?
  • Flab2fitfi
    Flab2fitfi Posts: 1,349 Member
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    I always thought gluten could only be found in baked goods - it's what gives dough its elasticity. How could it ever turn up in candy? :huh:

    Gluten is in a lot of things. It's a serious problem for people with Celiac's. I have a friend who had anal cancer and she has a lot of issues because of it. She's VERy sensitive to gluten. Even if there's a microscopic speck of it on the counter and it gets into, say, a chicken breast, she's sick for hours.

    She calls it "getting glutened."

    So, if you really and truly have a severe sensitivity to it, you'll know. And avoiding baked goods isn't enough.

    It is amazing what it is in - any products using flour, beers, malt extract and vinegars, Vodka and so many other things. They use wheat starch as a thicker/bulking agent and rusk, which is found in burgers and sausages, is another culprit. I've learnt to check everything I use as it is amazing where it can be found - tinned cherries for example.

    I have to be so careful and tend to cook most things from scratch and shopping is horrendous.
  • dorothytd
    dorothytd Posts: 1,138 Member
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    Pfft. Lawyers.
    Pfft. Meatheads.
    Imagine the terror if they somehow combined?!?!?

    THE HORROR!!!
  • GorillaEsq
    GorillaEsq Posts: 2,198 Member
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    Pfft. Lawyers.
    Pfft. Meatheads.
    Imagine the terror if they somehow combined?!?!?

    THE HORROR!!!
    You misspelled "alpha."
  • thelovelyLIZ
    thelovelyLIZ Posts: 1,227 Member
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    I think gluten free has it's place, specifically for people with gluten sensitivities or gluten intolerances. But I have virtually not health issues to speak of, I have plenty of energy, and I maintain a healthy weight. There's not need to cut out gluten unless you DO feel sick or ill after eating it, and have ruled out other factors.
  • AggieCass09
    AggieCass09 Posts: 1,867 Member
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    lol. fabulous. I love your humor.

    I also had a similar experience with gluten. I was a vegetarian, a healthy one, for several years while in college. After graduating, I started developing really bad heartburn. I mean BAD, cant breathe/function, bad. I've always had some degree of heart burn even previously when eating meat, but it was out of control. Long story short, dr's kept trying new tests and giving me more and more acid reflux meds and nothing worked. I read that cutting out gluten could help so I tried it and BAM! with in 2 days I was 100% heartburn free---a feeling I'd never ever experienced!

    A year later, my blood chemistry is improved and i'm leaner and feel wonderful. Best of all, no heartburn!

    Not everyone may be as sensitive to gluten as you or me, but its worth a try for some with particular ailments. Usually, the difference is seen immediately!
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    In to remind me to read through all six pages to see the inevitable replies of how you're wrong about this.
  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
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    Most doctors don't have a clue about nutrition and disease prevention; that's not what they learn.

    I see this nonsense on MFP all the time. And while I won't dispute that there are lazy doctors out there that don't keep up wth current research, or that many GP or non-nutrition related specialists are not nutrition experts. I question that "most" doctors don't have a clue about nutrition. I'd like to see statistics on this if anyone has them, but I think it's more often a comment based on a bad experience with a one doctor.

    If nutrition advice is needed most GP will refer to or consult with a dietician.

    I'm getting quite sick of this crap. When I say "most" doctors, I mean GPs, which are the doctors that most of us get to see. I don't mean nutritional specialists. I'm also talking about my own experiences, information from other people and the conclusions that I have come to through thousands of hours of research; I am not refering to any official statistics, not that I would put any weight in them either (yup, studied statistics, know a bit how they work!). In my experience it is not usually easy to get referred to a specialist at all for anything. I also am not aware if specialists have been educated on disease prevention any more than a GP; that's not how the health industry is currently set up.

    I do actually have a clue of medical school curricula (was curious, checked it out) and I have actually had some of my doctors openly admit that they are not educated about nutrition or disease prevention.
  • castlerobber
    castlerobber Posts: 528 Member
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    I always thought gluten could only be found in baked goods - it's what gives dough its elasticity. How could it ever turn up in candy? :huh:

    Cross-contaminated because the candy is processed in a facility that also handles gluten-containing foods, for instance. Flour, or even gluten specifically, used as a thickener. Dusting a conveyor belt to keep candy from sticking. Candy bars such as Kit-Kat or Twix, with cookies or wafers covered with chocolate.
  • msphyl46
    msphyl46 Posts: 49
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    Loved the post you're funny and entertaining. But I agree with you regarding gluten. Also, research MSG it is silently making us fat and giving us a lot of the illness that we see today as well. MSG is in the seasonings we use, salad dressing, packaged meals etc etc not to mention every resturant in American add it to the food to make us addicted.
  • GorillaEsq
    GorillaEsq Posts: 2,198 Member
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    In to remind me to read through all six pages to see the inevitable replies of how you're wrong about this.
    How I'm wrong about my own experiences and related opinions? Hopefully they'll be gentle with me, as I am incapable of mustering arguments, and utterly crushing silly quips and feeble attempts to compete. ;)
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    The Wheat Belly book: Worst pseudo-science EVER

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    And OP probably didn't really experience any benefits of eliminating gluten either, right?

    "Hey OP! The "science" doesn't really support what you experienced, so it didn't really happen. Please go back to eating lots of grains. You'll make everyone else feel better about what they eat."
  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
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    The last thing anyone wants to hear after suffering for so long is, "It's all in your head." Regardless if it was meant in an innocent way or not.. When I was going through all my ****, I would want to lose it when someone would say that to me.. Usually the person saying it has no understanding of the situation, and really has no reason to make the "It's all in your head" statement.. They should just keep quiet.

    ^^^^ This!!! The "in your head" comment is SO hurtful to those who have been in pain and suffering for years, if not decades. We don't need to try to undercut those who have found solutions to physical issues they struggle with. Just not necessary. Celebrate with them, instead. Or keep your opinion to yourself. Just my .02

    To the two of you who posted the above: thank you!! I have had improvements in health that are nothing short of miraculous. There's not a doctor that I know that ever would have figured it out, just tried to give me more meds. The only reason that I am so passionate and still bash my head against the wall trying to share my experiences is because I know that eating this way can really help some people! But even though I knew about eating this way (or close too it) for many, many years I had to finally get sick of being sick. Almost getting diabetes and suffering with extreme chronic pain and depression while being a useless parent to my child, was my wake up call. I don't like when people piss on my experience; I didn't come up with my opinions without lots of experimentation and research.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    Most doctors don't have a clue about nutrition and disease prevention; that's not what they learn.

    I see this nonsense on MFP all the time. And while I won't dispute that there are lazy doctors out there that don't keep up wth current research, or that many GP or non-nutrition related specialists are not nutrition experts. I question that "most" doctors don't have a clue about nutrition. I'd like to see statistics on this if anyone has them, but I think it's more often a comment based on a bad experience with a one doctor.

    If nutrition advice is needed most GP will refer to or consult with a dietician.

    I'm getting quite sick of this crap. When I say "most" doctors, I mean GPs, which are the doctors that most of us get to see. I don't mean nutritional specialists. I'm also talking about my own experiences, information from other people and the conclusions that I have come to through thousands of hours of research; I am not refering to any official statistics, not that I would put any weight in them either (yup, studied statistics, know a bit how they work!). In my experience it is not usually easy to get referred to a specialist at all for anything. I also am not aware if specialists have been educated on disease prevention any more than a GP; that's not how the health industry is currently set up.

    I do actually have a clue of medical school curricula (was curious, checked it out) and I have actually had some of my doctors openly admit that they are not educated about nutrition or disease prevention.

    "Thousands of hours of research" on which doctors are well versed in nutrition but you don't know any statistics on the subject? :huh:
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    In to remind me to read through all six pages to see the inevitable replies of how you're wrong about this.
    How I'm wrong about my own experiences and related opinions? Hopefully they'll be gentle with me, as I am incapable of mustering arguments, and utterly crushing silly quips and feeble attempts to compete. ;)

    Okay, caught up...and yeah, there were a few of the "you can't be right" type posts in there, but not as many as I expected.

    Perhaps there is yet hope for the human race.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    There is nothing about gluten that would harm anyone unless you’re allergic to it.
    The same is true for poison, thumbtacks, turtle meat and yak balls. I don't eat any of those either.

    You should eat those. It's a required part of the "everything in moderation" mindset. To exclude anything from your diet is completely unsustainable.

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