So your eating less crap, but its still CRAP
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People like you lady are the reason I have my diary set to friends and have precisely 2 of them on here who can see it my best mate and my personal trainer....I have no desire to be judged by strangers even though in my opinion my diary is squeaky clean but everyone's opinion of clean is different...Jog on0
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People like you lady are the reason I have my diary set to friends and have precisely 2 of them on here who can see it my best mate and my personal trainer....I have no desire to be judged by strangers even though in my opinion my diary is squeaky clean but everyone's opinion of clean is different...Jog on
"Jog on"!! I love this!!0 -
I don't know where my MFP pals are coming from in terms of former eating habits, so how can I judge them now? Change is a process and we all are starting at different levels.0
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It's not the fact that you care that is annoying everyone.
It's the way you're saying it.
And truth be told you might be a trained professional, but that doesn't give you control over what other people eat.
And what are you trying to gain from this thread?
To upset people and make them feel bad about their choices?
Most of us already feel bad when we eat 'junk' (Our definitions are probably very different) we don't need other people going through our personal logs and calling us out in a forum post to get that result.
I don't know why it's so hard to just focus on your individual journey, if people ask for advice give it.
If people are trying to figure things out for themselves, leave them alone and let them do what they want.0 -
You guys are all picking apart a comment to make it about what upsets YOU and missing the point entirely. I guess I know now not to bother with the forums on here. Eat what you want, by all means. Shame on me for caring.
I think you are missing the point. I can just as easily judge you, which is why it is silly to be perched on your high horse.
Again, my example is I don't agree with your use of protein powder. Should I berate you because I care about the manufactured powdery crap you are putting in your body? Are you not able to see why your post proves the point that it is useless to judge?0 -
I love treats but they really dont need to be the food kind. A new pair of shoes or something is a way better treat than a piece of cake. Although I do eat birthday cake for birthdays...
Yay! Just what I meant, new clothes, perfume, something non food related... : ) I eat cake and stuff too, it isn't treats, cheats or rewards...0 -
Just a quick observation...
The majority of the avatars telling the OP to cram it because she's a judgmental loser and a meanie pants are not fit, lean, jacked, or awesome looking.
The majority of the avatars supporting the OP's support of others by telling them the truth about their choices and the impact of said choices on their stated goals are leaner, more fit looking, and in general people whose opinions on subjects such as those this site would find useful I would listen to.
Just an observation...
BTW, I had a four-patty Five Guys cheeseburger with fries and a large DQ Resse cup Bizzard with EXTRA STUFF last night as part of my Carb Backloading program. This morning I woke up lean, tight, and ready to take new pictures. I've done this five of the last eight days and I'm down three pounds from two weeks ago. I'm going to drop a weight class for my PL meet next Saturday. Are my choices CRAP? As with all things on this site, it depends on your plans and your goals. In my case, this type of food elicits an insulin response that helps me build and/or maintain muscle mass and replenish glycogen stores while cutting fat the other 18 hours of the day when insulin is suppressed.
That being said, I'd bet that the OP is referring to people in her circle of friends who have stated goals that are not supported by their food choices and/or plans that do not include those food choices. OP has made some good progress based on her avatar pic, so she probably has valid things to say and the fact she cares about the people in her circle to the point she gets frustrated with them for sabotaging themselves means she's a good MFP pal.
Heck, I think I'll friend request her right now...0 -
You guys are all picking apart a comment to make it about what upsets YOU and missing the point entirely. I guess I know now not to bother with the forums on here. Eat what you want, by all means. Shame on me for caring.
I think you are missing the point. I can just as easily judge you, which is why it is silly to be perched on your high horse.
Again, my example is I don't agree with your use of protein powder. Should I berate you because I care about the manufactured powdery crap you are putting in your body? Are you not able to see why your post proves the point that it is useless to judge?
You work out at Planet Fitness, don't you...0 -
Everyone is different! to say it drives you mental is a bit over the top! and to create a post about it is even more so!
For some "crap" "treats" "cheats" whatever you want to call them, might be a no no! good for you... what ever works
However, for people who eat good during the week, have a treat at the weekend and are still losing... good for them too! its better than eating "crap" throughout the week! as long as they are loosing \ maintaining whatever the goal is.
My diary is no way near squeaky clean, with work getting in the way etc. But I try my very best to eat a healthy breakfast and a fairly decent lunch. Evening meal the same.
But if my mates want to go and have some beers or something on a Saturday night... I’m going to go out and drink beer with them! that to me, is my "treat" and soon as Monday come around back on track...
Chill the f**k out!!0 -
It's really driving me mental!!! I have something like 89 friends on here. I browse a lot of food journals (friends and random people, too) and am SHOCKED by what I see most of the time. Most of you want to lose weight but I see are not willing to change your ways. Food for thought on this Thursday. Lean on your support network if you need help. That's why we're here! Why log in every day and record CRAP. If you want to change your body, CHANGE YOUR DIET!
This is really a sad way to live life. :ohwell:0 -
I dont know about you but to me this is a lifestyle change not a diet and no food to me is off limits... Plus why worry about what other people eat your attitude is why people keep there diary's private....
^^this exactly...I eat what is available to eat. Unfortunately, on my budget fruits and vegetables are a luxury that I can't always afford...I do sometimes hit the snack machine, but it is there and over the course of my life there will be days when I do that...and guess what?? I'm not only losing weight, but my body IS changing-yay, me!0 -
Yesterday, we had a work party and I ate a cupcake AND a slice of cake and then I ate three mini Twix that I bought for Halloween.
I guess I should just give up now.0 -
Just a quick observation...
The majority of the avatars telling the OP to cram it because she's a judgmental loser and a meanie pants are not fit, lean, jacked, or awesome looking.
Not everyone wants to look like you.
Just sayin'.0 -
Why log in every day and record CRAP. If you want to change your body, CHANGE YOUR DIET!
Maybe they log it every day because they need to see what they're doing to their bodies in order to help them make changes. This is a long term goal and also an expirement for some people. You have no clue what these people are doing and what really goes on in people's minds so... I agree with most the other people, chill the f out.0 -
Small changes implemented over time has a better lifetime success rate. Many people who change their diets overnight can't sustain that change long term - there are both mental and physical challanges to dramatic changes. I remember when I decided to eat the cleanest, mostly raw diet possible. I ended up with crippling stomach pains for months, even after changing my diet back. People need to do this in a way that works for them... so if the beginning step is portion size, great. Maybe the next step will be more fresh food, et cetera.0
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Crap is good for my mental health.
Also *you're. Sorry, but it's driving me mental.0 -
I have lost more than a significant amount of weight as well as added some decent muscle (still working on it obviously) and I've done it by eating what I want through moderation and avoided my eventual downfall due to deprivation. In some cases, it's not just about what you put in your body, but managing your mentality as well, and I do that through moderation. A "clean" diet is not the only way! So grow up! And find something better to do besides poking around in your friend's diaries!
^ True Story0 -
"Crap" is subjective. What you think is "crap," other people might not agree with. What you think is healthy, other people might think is "crap." I mean, I see things in your diary that I would label as "crap," as I think people should eat real food, rather than processed stuff like PB2 and meal replacement shakes. But, to each their own.
The cat is right.0 -
I understand what the OP is saying, but everyone is on a different journey with different goals. For some people an entirely "clean" diet is simply not sustainable for them, and they need to do what they can to maintain a sustainable, healthier lifestyle than the one from which they started.
For some others, they are in a learning curve to reshape their lifestyle and that takes time.0 -
Just a quick observation...
The majority of the avatars telling the OP to cram it because she's a judgmental loser and a meanie pants are not fit, lean, jacked, or awesome looking.
The majority of the avatars supporting the OP's support of others by telling them the truth about their choices and the impact of said choices on their stated goals are leaner, more fit looking, and in general people whose opinions on subjects such as those this site would find useful I would listen to.
Just an observation...
BTW, I had a four-patty Five Guys cheeseburger with fries and a large DQ Resse cup Bizzard with EXTRA STUFF last night as part of my Carb Backloading program. This morning I woke up lean, tight, and ready to take new pictures. I've done this five of the last eight days and I'm down three pounds from two weeks ago. I'm going to drop a weight class for my PL meet next Saturday. Are my choices CRAP? As with all things on this site, it depends on your plans and your goals. In my case, this type of food elicits an insulin response that helps me build and/or maintain muscle mass and replenish glycogen stores while cutting fat the other 18 hours of the day when insulin is suppressed.
That being said, I'd bet that the OP is referring to people in her circle of friends who have stated goals that are not supported by their food choices and/or plans that do not include those food choices. OP has made some good progress based on her avatar pic, so she probably has valid things to say and the fact she cares about the people in her circle to the point she gets frustrated with them for sabotaging themselves means she's a good MFP pal.
Heck, I think I'll friend request her right now...
Well my diary is public. Maybe she should bookmark my diary page whenever she needs a good cry! :happy: :laugh: :laugh:
I will also readily admit to being fat. I discovered this truth over the summer. Why it took so long, I don't know, but I do know that since I've been on MFP, there are a good number of folks who would think that *most* of what I eat is crap. I don't really care. I aim for my macros with food that I enjoy. That is all. :smokin:0 -
I dont know about you but to me this is a lifestyle change not a diet and no food to me is off limits... Plus why worry about what other people eat your attitude is why people keep there diary's private....
Yup! Some of us have chosen to do this in a more 'everyting in moderation' method, not go completely clean. This is a personal choice. If your friends ask for help then by all means, scan their diary and make suggestions. Otherwise who cares?! This is the reason why my diary is only open to friends and even then I rarely "complete" so that it's not out there to be viewed. My life, my choices.
ETA: OP - who said you were a loser? We're just saying you're getting your panties in a twist over something that's neither any of your business nor something you can dictate to someone else. You've chosen to go completely clean - good for you!! Why mandate that all your friends do the same thing? Live and let live and calm down!
How would you feel if some religious zealot came up to you and said you're going to hell unless you live the way they say you should? This is really not that much different...
I actually never thought of not "complete"ing - good call!0 -
It's not the fact that you care that is annoying everyone.
It's the way you're saying it.
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I understand how this is supposed to be a lifestyle and not a diet but I'm with you on this one. I have seen diaries that consist of a doughnut and sugar filled coffee for breakfast, yogurt and half a banana for lunch, then one cup of velveeta shells and cheese for dinner. Over and over again. I try to be helpful by saying something like, where are the veggies? Fiber? Etc., without being anal about it. We are here to help people out, not put them down. I also understand that all of us on in our own place in this journey and it took me a while to eat healthier. It took me at least 3 weeks just to realize that what I was eating WAS crap.
Maybe they are going through unimaginable stress and don't really have the time or MENTAL energy to eat healthier.
I'm under a lot of stress myself and I try, really try, to eat healthy foods but some days I'll choose a sodium laden frozen dinner due to the convenience of popping it in the microwave. Sometimes it's just too much mentally to prepare all of the healthier stuff. I don't do it daily but I am guilty of it. I'd delete someone if they repeatedly *****ed at me about doing that. Walk in my shoes one day and see how you cope.
Anyway,, yeah, many of us need to improve our diets, but we are here to support each other, not alienate. When someone chooses to lose weight, start eating healthier and exercise, etc., it has to be when they are ready, not when we want them to be.0 -
Tell that to the people who have lost over 100 pounds still eating all their favorite junk foods.
I reached my first goal weight easily and totally changed my body composition, all while still eating the foods I loved, just less of them. I make healthy choices more often now, but not all the time at all.
If you can eat clean all the time that's great, but it's not for all of us and it's not necessary for weight loss.0 -
IMO logging in everyday and recording crap somewhat around your calorie range is FAR better than not logging in at all, or logging in and not recording. All of which I'm guilty of.
Changing your lifestyle isn't easy, and it's not like flipping a light switch (at least, not for most people. Congrats if it is for you.)
Worry about your own journal. If your crap-eating friends ask you for advice, give it. Otherwise, just support them for the simple reason that they are probably making progress in their own way, if not your way.0 -
Why log in every day and record CRAP. If you want to change your body, CHANGE YOUR DIET!
Maybe they log it every day because they need to see what they're doing to their bodies in order to help them make changes. This is a long term goal and also an expirement for some people. You have no clue what these people are doing and what really goes on in people's minds so... I agree with most the other people, chill the f out.
Very good point! Some people think it's "cheating" to eat cake or candies. But to me, it's only "cheating" if you eat something and don't log it! Is the OP insinuating that if someone "eats crap" that they should then become a lying cheat as well and simply not log it? Just insane!0 -
I'm also monitoring my sugar levels, sometimes I need a jumpstart.0
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I got fat eating TOO MUCH healthful food. Second helpings of acorn squash quinoa, big bowls of delicious delicious bran flakes. I would have been better off eating at McDonalds three times a day than some of the calorie-dense oatmeal I devoured. Even the deicious chicken and cabbage with mashed cauliflower I had all week was the same calories as a cheesesteak and not quite as filling.0
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Yesterday, we had a work party and I ate a cupcake AND a slice of cake and then I ate three mini Twix that I bought for Halloween.
I guess I should just give up now.
OMG! You will never be fit! Just give up! Hurry before the OP sees it!
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