So your eating less crap, but its still CRAP
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Pah, Usain Bolt! What does he know...0 -
Just a quick observation...
The majority of the avatars telling the OP to cram it because she's a judgmental loser and a meanie pants are not fit, lean, jacked, or awesome looking.
Not everyone wants to look like you.
Just sayin'.
Of course. I didn't say, assume, or allude to some idea that everybody wants to look like me. I did say that I wouldn't value the advice or opinion of (paraphrasing) a fat person on how to not be fat or a weak person on how to be strong. But if someone says, "here's my goal, here's my plan," and OP sees consistent deviation from the plan that derails the goals, where is she wrong to call out, criticize, or coach the person who is sabotaging himself?
I actually think that's quite a disgusting attitude to have. I have a friend who has lost over 100lb while still having occasional treats - but she still has a way to go and in your book would no doubt still be 'fat'. Does that mean I shouldn't listen to her because she hasn't reached her goal yet?
How do you know that the same doesn't apply to the people you have just blatently criticised on here? MFP is a learning curve, and anyone that is on here, making changes and logging their food regularly deserves a round of applause regardless of what they eat, in my opinion. We don't need people like you criticising our opinions just because we are not 'jacked' or 'awesome looking'.
I didn't say you shouldn't listen to her. I said I wouldn't. Using your line of thinking, why would anyone listen to me? I haven't reached my goal yet. Being friends on this site or in life isn't about making each other feel good. It's about caring enough about the other person's pursuits to support them when they're doing well, catch them when they fall, and coach them when they're making mistakes.
If you're not looking to cut fat and build/maintain muscle mass, then no, you don't need any information from me. But the folks I coach sure do seem to appreciate me "critici[z]ing" their opinions. Even the ones who are not on a quest to be jacked or awesome looking.0 -
This is just a downright nasty and judgemental original post.. Less crap is a beginning for some folks and it would appear they are being very honest about what they are eating. This is a big step in facing up to what we are doing to ourselves and changing our habits. However at the end of the day this is a place for positive suport in my mind but then I am a glass half full kind of person:)0
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There are a lot of members on MFP. Maybe you should PM those 89+ people and let them know what you don't like about their diaries. It probably won't be received any better but at least you will have 'helped' and you can feel like a good person.0
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I wish we were friends......My diary would give you a coronary. I am pretty happy with where I am getting and I like Ice Cream.....a lot.
Me too, Jack! :smooched:
ice cream > crack0 -
this person is a perfect example of the weight loss going to their heads, nothing more nothing less. Keep doing what your doing. I hope you will keep the weight off down the road Miss High and Mighty. Lots of people on here sneek in junk food because
1: they can, it's a free country
2: they like it
3: life without some sucks
4: to piss people like you off
5: some aren't dieting or eating clean, they are just maintaining what they got
6: it's none of your business
7: stop reading others, if it ruins your day!0 -
Great! Now I want Cake, and tix, and cupcakes!!!
And as for that fellow who said that the avatars of posters who agreed with OP were "less fit" looking. Stuff it. I'm 41, a size 6, just ran a 1:48 half marathon....and I think snack foods ROCK! I plan some into every day. I've lost enough weight to feel fantastic and I don't let anyone look at my food journal because, well, I don't CARE what someone else thinks about my food choices. If I want constructive feed back on that topic, I'll ask a few folks to look over my choices. Otherwise, I'll study up and make my food choices based on my desired outcomes and the literature I review.
I generally get on here to ENCOURAGE others, not talk about how someone makes me angry/mental/etc by their lifestyles. I encourage my friends who are struggling with motivation, asking activity questions I have some experience in, and just saying a genuine YAY when the scale budges in the direction they desire.
Other people like to rant. (Like I kinda just did. . .) If you don't like what you see. . . .stop looking!0 -
It's really driving me mental!!! I have something like 89 friends on here. I browse a lot of food journals (friends and random people, too) and am SHOCKED by what I see most of the time. Most of you want to lose weight but I see are not willing to change your ways. Food for thought on this Thursday. Lean on your support network if you need help. That's why we're here! Why log in every day and record CRAP. If you want to change your body, CHANGE YOUR DIET!
^^^^Reason #17....why i keep my food diary locked.0 -
I would be sad if I cared so much to make a thread about what people that you don't know eat...hmmmm
I'd be inclined to agree......0 -
Where's the love people??? Come on now...0
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Agreed, although a small treat here and there won't harm
Agreed, however many people think that small treat should be at every meal.
I have seen it too (and am guilty of it some days). Like I always say, you can't out exercise a bad diet. :drinker:
Abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym.
Some people don't have "visible abs" as a goal. I'm almost 40 and been married nearly 20 years with two teenagers. Even when I was a teenager and running 3x a week, lifting weights 2x a week, and in the best shape of my life, I wasn't wearing bikinis and showing off my belly to the world. That's *never* been a goal of mine. My goal is to get below 25% BF, not 15 or 18% and I'll bet there are others who feel the same. In fact, the whole "visible abs" thing is pretty over-rated in my opinion.
Seriously, I just want to have the endurance that I had as a kid, to climb stairs without feeling as though I will die, to wear clothes that are 'normal people" size rather than "plus section" size.
It would behoove everyone in this community to consider the fact that we do not all have the same goals. I am pretty sure that if I were so skinny that you could see my abdominal muscles that I would start eating more candy each day! :laugh:
Live and let live! :flowerforyou:
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Just a quick observation...
The majority of the avatars telling the OP to cram it because she's a judgmental loser and a meanie pants are not fit, lean, jacked, or awesome looking.
Not everyone wants to look like you.
Just sayin'.
Of course. I didn't say, assume, or allude to some idea that everybody wants to look like me. I did say that I wouldn't value the advice or opinion of (paraphrasing) a fat person on how to not be fat or a weak person on how to be strong. But if someone says, "here's my goal, here's my plan," and OP sees consistent deviation from the plan that derails the goals, where is she wrong to call out, criticize, or coach the person who is sabotaging himself?
I actually think that's quite a disgusting attitude to have. I have a friend who has lost over 100lb while still having occasional treats - but she still has a way to go and in your book would no doubt still be 'fat'. Does that mean I shouldn't listen to her because she hasn't reached her goal yet?
How do you know that the same doesn't apply to the people you have just blatently criticised on here? MFP is a learning curve, and anyone that is on here, making changes and logging their food regularly deserves a round of applause regardless of what they eat, in my opinion. We don't need people like you criticising our opinions just because we are not 'jacked' or 'awesome looking'.
I didn't say you shouldn't listen to her. I said I wouldn't. Using your line of thinking, why would anyone listen to me? I haven't reached my goal yet. Being friends on this site or in life isn't about making each other feel good. It's about caring enough about the other person's pursuits to support them when they're doing well, catch them when they fall, and coach them when they're making mistakes.
If you're not looking to cut fat and build/maintain muscle mass, then no, you don't need any information from me. But the folks I coach sure do seem to appreciate me "critici[z]ing" their opinions. Even the ones who are not on a quest to be jacked or awesome looking.
You don't care about making your friends feel good? I'm glad you are not one of mine. Your post may have had an unoffensive meaning but your delivery was downright awful.
Nice attempt to judge my spelling of 'criticise'. I would like to point out that I am from the UK which is how we spell it. Both ways are acceptable.0 -
I wish we were friends......My diary would give you a coronary. I am pretty happy with where I am getting and I like Ice Cream.....a lot.
Me too, Jack! :smooched:
ice cream > crackWhere's the love people??? Come on now...
There's some love right there.
For the record, I love ice cream, too.
And Resee Cups.
And Ice Cream with Resee Cups.
Love is in the air.0 -
The .most successful person I know here use IIFIYM...........just saying.0
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That being said, I'd bet that the OP is referring to people in her circle of friends who have stated goals that are not supported by their food choices and/or plans that do not include those food choices. OP has made some good progress based on her avatar pic, so she probably has valid things to say and the fact she cares about the people in her circle to the point she gets frustrated with them for sabotaging themselves means she's a good MFP pal.
^ This, she even said people in her friends list.
I don't see how someone making an observation on why people might be failing at their goals is judgemental. Do you people only want cheerleaders that tell you "good job" no matter what you do? Even when you aren't doing a good job? To me, I would rather have a friend give me some constructive criticsm instead of "tomorrow is another day" "do better next time" every time I fail. Especially if I have multiple days of that.
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Why can't everyone just judge others in silence like I do?0
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You guys are all picking apart a comment to make it about what upsets YOU and missing the point entirely. I guess I know now not to bother with the forums on here. Eat what you want, by all means. Shame on me for caring.
Sorry, but it comes across as "I'm better than you", rather than "I care about you". I'm happy with the 90+ I've lost by not strictly eating "clean".0 -
Just a quick observation...
The majority of the avatars telling the OP to cram it because she's a judgmental loser and a meanie pants are not fit, lean, jacked, or awesome looking.
Wow.0 -
Some people don't have "visible abs" as a goal.
Lies! Heresey! She's a witch - burn her!
It's the goal of everyone everywhere to have visible abs for the sake of it and if your diet and training isn't geared towards that you're just not trying hard enough dammit!
Slackers.0 -
I have my meals where I eat like crap. We always have Old Chicago nachos on Wednesdays. Have since 2002. Not going to change now. But I also make sure I work out to burn the 895 calories for my 1/2 plate plus enough to cover my tall beer. Same with Thursdays when we eat Twin Peaks. I eat healthy breakfast, lunch and snacks. And some nights I eat healthy dinner. I stay at my 1200 or a bit lower 6 out of 7 days a week. And usually no more than 200 over on my bad day.
But if I give up my crap meals I am pretty sure that I would fail within a few weeks.0 -
Wow! OP, you sure hit a nerve! I get what you are saying. I look at diaries for inspiration but have found little to inspire me! And, it has nothing to do with ice cream or cookies. We're a community. We are supposed to support each other, right? But, I think this is another one of those instances where it is best to stay quiet unless asked or you have something positive to say. I may be overweight but I do know the basics of good nutrition. It's amazing to see what works for some people. It is more amazing to see what others log and can't understand why it's not working. It's a journey. We all learn something along the way. I didn't feel that your observation was judgmental.0
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Ate 2 burgers, and some cheesecake. Went to Gym lifted 400lbs a few dozen times. Came home, laughed at forums.
I think I'll have some ice cream now.0 -
I wish we were friends......My diary would give you a coronary. I am pretty happy with where I am getting and I like Ice Cream.....a lot.
Me too, Jack! :smooched:
ice cream > crackWhere's the love people??? Come on now...
There's some love right there.
For the record, I love ice cream, too.
And Resee Cups.
And Ice Cream with Resee Cups.
Love is in the air.
right...love.
except you judged a page and half of people on how they LOOKED. Way to go...and some of those people didnt even have their picture in their avatar.
how do you know whether they are jacked or look good? AND what does it matter?
do I need to PM you my body so you can decide whether I can disagree with the OP and whether my opinion is valid? Wonder if I will measure up.
hmm0 -
Ate 2 burgers, and some cheesecake. Went to Gym lifted 400lbs a few dozen times. Came home, laughed at forums.
I think I'll have some ice cream now.
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Just a quick observation...
The majority of the avatars telling the OP to cram it because she's a judgmental loser and a meanie pants are not fit, lean, jacked, or awesome looking.
Not everyone wants to look like you.
Just sayin'.
Of course. I didn't say, assume, or allude to some idea that everybody wants to look like me. I did say that I wouldn't value the advice or opinion of (paraphrasing) a fat person on how to not be fat or a weak person on how to be strong. But if someone says, "here's my goal, here's my plan," and OP sees consistent deviation from the plan that derails the goals, where is she wrong to call out, criticize, or coach the person who is sabotaging himself?
I actually think that's quite a disgusting attitude to have. I have a friend who has lost over 100lb while still having occasional treats - but she still has a way to go and in your book would no doubt still be 'fat'. Does that mean I shouldn't listen to her because she hasn't reached her goal yet?
How do you know that the same doesn't apply to the people you have just blatently criticised on here? MFP is a learning curve, and anyone that is on here, making changes and logging their food regularly deserves a round of applause regardless of what they eat, in my opinion. We don't need people like you criticising our opinions just because we are not 'jacked' or 'awesome looking'.
I didn't say you shouldn't listen to her. I said I wouldn't. Using your line of thinking, why would anyone listen to me? I haven't reached my goal yet. Being friends on this site or in life isn't about making each other feel good. It's about caring enough about the other person's pursuits to support them when they're doing well, catch them when they fall, and coach them when they're making mistakes.
If you're not looking to cut fat and build/maintain muscle mass, then no, you don't need any information from me. But the folks I coach sure do seem to appreciate me "critici[z]ing" their opinions. Even the ones who are not on a quest to be jacked or awesome looking.
You don't care about making your friends feel good? I'm glad you are not one of mine. Your post may have had an unoffensive meaning but your delivery was downright awful.
Nice attempt to judge my spelling of 'criticise'. I would like to point out that I am from the UK which is how we spell it. Both ways are acceptable.
"Nice attempt to judge my spelling"
Can't we have some cross-pond levity anymore? Brits do that to me all the time and give a good natured ribbing about how we bastardize (or is it bastardise) their language. I knew from the car in your slider that you were from the UK.0 -
OP is probably going to lose a lot of friends off her friend list today0
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I wish we were friends......My diary would give you a coronary. I am pretty happy with where I am getting and I like Ice Cream.....a lot.
Me too, Jack! :smooched:
ice cream > crackWhere's the love people??? Come on now...
There's some love right there.
For the record, I love ice cream, too.
And Resee Cups.
And Ice Cream with Resee Cups.
Love is in the air.
right...love.
except you judged a page and half of people on how they LOOKED. Way to go...and some of those people didnt even have their picture in their avatar.
how do you know whether they are jacked or look good? AND what does it matter?
do I need to PM you my body so you can decide whether I can disagree with the OP and whether my opinion is valid? Wonder if I will measure up.
hmm
^ Yes please dear. Bold part. Thanks!
Carry on people.0 -
It's really driving me mental!!! I have something like 89 friends on here. I browse a lot of food journals (friends and random people, too) and am SHOCKED by what I see most of the time. Most of you want to lose weight but I see are not willing to change your ways. Food for thought on this Thursday. Lean on your support network if you need help. That's why we're here! Why log in every day and record CRAP. If you want to change your body, CHANGE YOUR DIET!
^^^^Reason #17....why i keep my food diary locked.
:flowerforyou:
But I still say OP should bookmark mine. I keep it public because I just don't give a damn what other people think. I'm here for *me* and to achieve *my* goals. I can't even really say that I'm here for my family like some people say they are. My family doesn't give a damn that I'm overweight. They love me unconditionally. I have my own goals and am slowly learning how to achieve them. I am also not trying to drop 170 pounds in a year.
My fitness goals are mine! This is one time in my life where it *really* is all about me and no one else.0 -
The .most successful person I know here use IIFIYM...........just saying.
IIFYM is a very successful and no-nonsense BS-free way of looking at eating that allows a great degree of freedom.
Rarely do true IIFYM adherants stuggle, and those that criticize pretty much totally miss the point.0 -
To the OP, maybe I read the tone differently than everyone jumping on you. I saw a person with genuine interest is seeing the people around them succeed. It's difficult watching people you care about do stupid things. For me, it tends to be financial. I made so many mistakes in my impulsive youth. I hate seeing family and friends blunder into the same or worse situations, when I all I want is to see them thrive. I think that's the feeling you get reading diaries on here.
That said, I do try to log my food most days. I'm still on a learning curve, even after blowing 79lbs. As an accountability factor, I make myself add the "bad". For me "bad" tends to be over extending my calorie goal, as most of my choices have been pretty good, save for Chuy's Mexican and the like once in awhile.0
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