Over 200 Club New Year New Body Part 4

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  • Check-in for yesterday:

    Calories: under
    Water: over
    Sleep: barely 5 hours -- this is an area I definitely need to work on.
    Exercise: ~30 minutes (Walk Away the Pounds and not including the walking I do to get around/get to work)

    Pride: I made myself exercise yesterday even though I really really really didn't want to. I had to bargain with myself because I ate a few things I shouldn't have, and I knew that if I didn't do some kind of physical activity to pay it off, I'd feel guilty. So I pushed through the exercise and I felt great! Kept me from falling asleep right away, though.
  • cris20056
    cris20056 Posts: 1,355 Member
    This might be a dumb question but when I log my calories MFP gives me the calories, fat, and protein that will be consummed or have been, but it doesnt tell my sodium. I've seen some of you mention you went over on sodium...I dont even know what sodium level Im supposed to stay in....please help?
    Click the "Food" tab, then "settings" and you can change the nutrients you track.

    Thanks! Got it! I added sodium and fiber? Anything else you suggest adding?
  • LittleSpy
    LittleSpy Posts: 6,754 Member
    Thanks! Got it! I added sodium and fiber? Anything else you suggest adding?

    It depends on you, I guess. I track fat, carbs, protein, sodium, and fiber because those are the nutrients most important to me at this point. I guess if you were anemic you'd want to track iron, or if you were diabetic you may want to track sugar, someone with high cholesterol may want to track cholesterol, etc.
  • HonestOmnivore
    HonestOmnivore Posts: 1,356 Member
    My sister has no problem potty training her kids- she puts them in cloth diapers. The "positive" side is that in cloth it's easy for them to tell when they start to pee - paper can be so absorbent they don't notice. The "negative" side is that they hate HATE being in a wet / dirty diaper and quickly work to avoid it by going in the potty.

    Yes actually, :devil: does run in the family :tongue:

    edited to add that this was written tongue in cheek - her youngest decided to break all the rules and took a couple extra years to potty train!
  • awestfall
    awestfall Posts: 1,774 Member
    Are ya kidding? I was ready to cry from JOY when my son finally started going in the toilet. That is super wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    She has been sitting at home for liek 2 second for last few months, and refused like trantrum refused to go int here at day care. She has gone now a few times at home and at school..they say that she will go in there and cry sitting on the toliet and then stop crying and go...yesterday she made ugly faces but then went...but at least she is trying now , she is getting better each week.

    Once she is potty trained she gets to move to the bigger class more of a pre-school class kinda, but with older kids (she is 3 and in there with a long younger kids), maybe beeing around alot of kids her age will help her speech some and they will start focusing more on learning things than they are in the class she is now.

    So far i am on track for eating..i feel like crud probably worse than yesterday trying to stay away from snacking today..i jsut got my orange for my morning snack hoping i keep it up..
    You may also want to take her to a urologist because my neice had the same problem peeing the bed and crying when she went potty and it turned out she has urinary tract infections and had to be put on preventative medicine for it.

    She only crys when she is at school...i think it is more she is just being a butt head than an issue of it hurting...if it was just that but since the week before she was throwing the same fit outside of the bathrooms.

    She never cries at home and goes..

    I am hoping she gets potty trained and is just done with it ..i have soo many issues with my 6 yr old with potty during the day and at night only dealing with 1 with that would be a great improvement.
    I really hope things get better for you!!! Sounds to me like you need a vacation!!
  • lildebbie
    lildebbie Posts: 2,068 Member
    I definetly need a vacation. Me and hubby want to get away somewhere, but his job he doesn't get any vacation till he is there for a year...which won't be till september...at this rate i will probably use up all mine before that for sick kiddos.

    My mom will take them for like a day on the weekend (and night) so that is a like a little vac i guess..but laying on the beach is what I am calling for right now !!!!!
  • CarolTempleton
    CarolTempleton Posts: 244 Member
    To Arian, don't give up, there have been so many days when i want to give up, but its not worth dying over. 3 weeks ago I was at 253, then the next week, when i thought i did good I peaked at 266, it was awful, I felt discouraged , but I was also on my period, this week i weighed in and I am back down to 253, thank goodness, just keep pushing your self, your gonna make it, it takes time, you didn't gain this weight over night. I am here to help encourage you when ever you need it.
  • ColoradoGirl
    ColoradoGirl Posts: 423 Member
    ok.. so it has been a crazy day here.

    Took my daughter to the ortho this morning and the orthodontist has been replaced by a new one.. no one knows why.. yeah right.. The new ortho said my daughters retainer could not be fixed and that she needed a new one (it was stepped on by someone at school.. long story) At any rate that is another $350.00. :noway:

    Then went to my husbands Diabetic apt with the specialist.. Walked away SOOOOOOOO MAD!!!! :mad:
    3 years ago my husband had a very a demanding managing job.. He was fired unjustly (they needed to cut costs) so, we were uninsured for about a year. We had to cancel his appointment with the specialist at that time. (We had also cancelled 2 other apts previous to that because he was unable to get away from work). Since then he has seen regular Dr's and his A1c has gone up. So, we decided since we have good health insurance finally we would try and go back to this specialist Dr. Well.it took 2 months to get an apt. We showed up 20 mins early this morning.. After we sat in the waiting room for 30 min past the apt time now at 50 mins.. The Dr. comes out and proceeded to tell my husband that they have a 3 strike rule and she will not be able to see him today without a referral letter. (We are PPO, no referral is needed) Because he cancelled 3 different apts. (NOT no show.. but cancelled) and it had been more than two years (we brought his current records and had a A1C done 4 days before the apt so, she would have current info to look at) ARG.. REALLY.. Does she think she can treat people like that and they will come back. ^&**&**&$#$ :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: wtf.gif

    So.. now I am sitting here at the surgery center waiting on the knee specialist to finish my DH knee surgery and trying to kill some time. Sometimes I wonder what our world is coming to.
  • HonestOmnivore
    HonestOmnivore Posts: 1,356 Member
    Then went to my husbands Diabetic apt with the specialist.. Walked away SOOOOOOOO MAD!!!! :mad:
    3 years ago my husband had a very a demanding managing job.. He was fired unjustly (they needed to cut costs) so, we were uninsured for about a year. We had to cancel his appointment with the specialist at that time. (We had also cancelled 2 other apts previous to that because he was unable to get away from work). Since then he has seen regular Dr's and his A1c has gone up. So, we decided since we have good health insurance finally we would try and go back to this specialist Dr. Well.it took 2 months to get an apt. We showed up 20 mins early this morning.. After we sat in the waiting room for 30 min past the apt time now at 50 mins.. The Dr. comes out and proceeded to tell my husband that they have a 3 strike rule and she will not be able to see him today without a referral letter. (We are PPO, no referral is needed) Because he cancelled 3 different apts. (NOT no show.. but cancelled) and it had been more than two years (we brought his current records and had a A1C done 4 days before the apt so, she would have current info to look at) ARG.. REALLY.. Does she think she can treat people like that and they will come back. ^&**&**&$#$ :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: wtf.gif
    That's wrong. I could see them not allowing him to make an appointment the fourth time. But you don't have someone make a 4th appointment so that you can tell them they can't be seen. Write some letters, is the doctor under the umbrella of a hospital system? Write their Ombudsman and call the BBB.
  • ColoradoGirl
    ColoradoGirl Posts: 423 Member
    you know.. we had a hard time locating that Dr. She has moved 3 times in 3 years.. Went from a partnership to using a space shared by several Dr.s to a not so nice basement office by herself. When looking her up we saw many many reviews on her and not one of them was positive. That says something. We won't be going back to her and will be letting our insurance know (the county is self insured) and yes a few letters will be written. It just really caught me off guard. I guess I started doing Massage because I wanted to help people. I can not imagine how she can treat people like that and sleep at night much less be happy with the person she is. Aguugh..

    Thanks for listening
  • LittleSpy
    LittleSpy Posts: 6,754 Member
    That's wrong. I could see them not allowing him to make an appointment the fourth time. But you don't have someone make a 4th appointment so that you can tell them they can't be seen. Write some letters, is the doctor under the umbrella of a hospital system? Write their Ombudsman and call the BBB.

    Ditto. :explode:

    You never *need* a referral to a doctor anyway, HMO or PPO, just to get the doctor to see you. As you said, an HMO would require the referral but if you didnt' have the referral, the doctor would still see you, it's just that your insurance wouldn't cover it.

    So, pretty much no matter how you try to rationalize it, that was a real *kitten* thing for the doctor to do. :mad:
  • Momma2four
    Momma2four Posts: 1,534
    ColoradoGirl, that was rude. They should have NEVER made that apt. if they were not planning to see him. I would do what mstahl said to do. They were Wrong!!!!!!!!!

    okay girls, I have decided not to weigh in weekly for a while. I am becoming discouraged and wonder why am I doing this? I know that I am doing this because I never want to go back to where I was. I am doing this because I want to get healthy. I know all that and I AM going to keep going. I just need to see more coming off. I have not been able to change my ticker for a month. Part of it was because it was a lying ticker around Christmas. I have lost weight in the month of January but it was weight that I gained in the month of Dec. So it is starting to get discouraging and it does not look like I have lost any weight this week or last and I thought maybe I should just step away from the scale for a couple of weeks. We will see though I am sure t my curiosity will get the best of me on Friday. I am craving junk food again and I endulged myself today. Which after I already posted all the food I plan to eat will now put me over. NOW my plan is to do damage control and go work this junk off. Lets see if I do it. My daughter and I have decided to do Pilates again today so I know I have that but it is not enough to fix what I have done. So work out here I come:sick: Just feeling blah about all this. I am not planning on quitting so don't worry!! Just trying to find my motivation that was here the first 7-8 months when I lost this 40 pounds. Since Nov. my weight has been up and down!! No real changes in about 2-3 months. I am coming up on my 1 yr anniversary here Feb. 21 and I am bored. Anyways I am done complaining and I am going to go workout.
  • cds2327
    cds2327 Posts: 439
    check in for 1/25
    calories: little under
    water: 94 oz
    exercise: 40 min, treadmill
    sleep: 7+ ( i wake up alot).
    proud: didn't eat cookies in bed with my hubby!!!
  • Rororosie
    Rororosie Posts: 113 Member

    we have wondered that several times if she needed to be challenged more. I think she is very very smart (now i am sure that is some of her mommy just bragging), but i guess the thought is if she won't even try the easy stuff why would they give her harder more challenging stuff to do. She has a very active imagination and sometimes i think she gets stuck there and doesn't come back to reality at all. They have tested her to make sure she was wear she needed to be and she tested at 1st grade level...Her biggest thing is she doesn't want to write. She just refuses too...but they write in most things...she just stares off to space..>Then she tells me the teacher doesn't give her enough time, which i know isn't true. This grading period was probably her works behavior wise, and had the best grades, nothing lower than a 80...i just don't get it...she gets in trouble everyday for not following directions, not listening when others are talking, not standing in line , inappropriate lunch room behavior...I just don't know anymore...I am hoping a professional can help..maybe she will give some insight.

    She dreads school and i know not all kids love it...but somewher ein the middle would be good.

    I have ADD and when I was a kid, I was brilliant. So I had both problems. I had difficulty focusing and the easy stuff was so boring there was not a chance that it would engage me. I spend all day in class sneak reading. They had to find stuff for me to do like tutoring other students. That was helpful. In 6th grade I just didn't do the whole year's project because it didn't interest me, but they passed me anyway because i tested at High School levels on everything - 12 in English, 9th grade in math (so I thought I was "stupid" in Math, lol)...

    I'm not so brilliant now because old age and years of drug use caught up with me... and I'm not so sure being brilliant was good for my character! I wish now that they had seen what I needed and given me some challenge because it took a while for me to learn how to have disipline and work at things. NOW I LOVE DISIPLINE and working on things, but it TOOK ME YEARS to GET it. And it makes me like myself more to have it...

    I hated school, not just because it was boring but because I didn't fit in AT ALL with the other kids and they often picked on me.

    In 7th grade, the punishment for not doing math homework was that you had to go to the library instead of playing sports with the other kids. I was bad at sports and loved reading, so I just never did my homework and loved the punishment. They decided to motivate me by telling me that if I did my homework I could go in 8th grade in the same class with my best friend, so I just snuck read in the bathroom (not as comfy as the library) instead of doing sports.

    I also wish someone had coached me in some physical activities and helped me stay active... sigh...

    Anyway it sounds like your daughter has ADD and also is highly intelligent and creative. ADD can be worked around and worked with and by catching it young you will be doing her a great favor. It is not really a disease; it really just is another way of thinking, one that unfortunately doesn't fit into the world of school.

    I could be wrong, so I know you will figure out whatever it is if you keep with it and your daughter is LUCKY to have you, a concerned parent, trying to figure it out.

    There are a lot of good books about ADD out there and a lot of resources now for kids.... I am mostly familiar with the ones for adults as both myself and my daughter identified our ADD issues as grown ups.
  • Rororosie
    Rororosie Posts: 113 Member
    That's wrong. I could see them not allowing him to make an appointment the fourth time. But you don't have someone make a 4th appointment so that you can tell them they can't be seen. Write some letters, is the doctor under the umbrella of a hospital system? Write their Ombudsman and call the BBB.

    Yah, I agree, that was crazy bad. No excuse for it!
  • lildebbie
    lildebbie Posts: 2,068 Member
    Colorado - That is just WRONG!!!! doctors are supposed to be there help not to be a total jerk. If they weren't going to see him they should of definetly not even scheduled the appt.

    Momma - I wish you the best of luck...I am having problems getting re-motiviated...i know i need to but these last few weeks have been bad...

    Mari - THanks for the info. Lot of that sounds like my daughter. A punishment at school is not to go to recess, and that doesn't seem to bother her. We will see if the school cousnsler would see her soon. THe stupid website i need to get forms to go see the family counlser still isn't working grrrr. My husband has ADD and he can see some of the stuff she is doing is what he would do.
  • cris20056
    cris20056 Posts: 1,355 Member
    Momma2four- Maybe you could start fresh? Change your ticker back to zero and re-evaluate your goals? I dont know, but maybe the fact that your ticker hasnt moved and seems stuck could be bringing you down, I know that would drive me crazy too. Just start all over! You have been so kind and inspirational to me, I really hope you dont quit, I cant even imagine getting to 40lbs!!

    Cheer up! Tomorrow is a new day!

    Hugs,

    Cris:happy: :flowerforyou:
  • bluenote
    bluenote Posts: 2,930
    Welcome, Jenn!
    motherof - good job on that exercise! We're proud of you, too!
    COGirl - wow, I have never heard of a situation like yours - that was so rude of that doctor!
    momma - :heart: :heart: :heart: You need a hug :heart: :heart: :heart: There is nothing more frustrating than trying to "catch up" for past gains. I did that for the last week in Dec. and the first three in January. But you can't dwell on it, momma, or it will depress you and discourage you too much. You have to put blinders on and go straight forward. For me, I had to take a serious look as to why I was gaining and losing the same four pounds - took a chance on eating all of my calories and it is paying off. How many cals do you get a day and how many of them are you eating? How many exercise cals do you average per day? Are you eating them? Please don't give up. You are an inspiration to me and many others! If you feel that staying away from the scale right now will help you, then please make sure to stay with us even without the scale. Only you know what is best for you, but we all want you to succeed, please remember that!
  • awestfall
    awestfall Posts: 1,774 Member
    ok.. so it has been a crazy day here.

    Took my daughter to the ortho this morning and the orthodontist has been replaced by a new one.. no one knows why.. yeah right.. The new ortho said my daughters retainer could not be fixed and that she needed a new one (it was stepped on by someone at school.. long story) At any rate that is another $350.00. :noway:

    Then went to my husbands Diabetic apt with the specialist.. Walked away SOOOOOOOO MAD!!!! :mad:
    3 years ago my husband had a very a demanding managing job.. He was fired unjustly (they needed to cut costs) so, we were uninsured for about a year. We had to cancel his appointment with the specialist at that time. (We had also cancelled 2 other apts previous to that because he was unable to get away from work). Since then he has seen regular Dr's and his A1c has gone up. So, we decided since we have good health insurance finally we would try and go back to this specialist Dr. Well.it took 2 months to get an apt. We showed up 20 mins early this morning.. After we sat in the waiting room for 30 min past the apt time now at 50 mins.. The Dr. comes out and proceeded to tell my husband that they have a 3 strike rule and she will not be able to see him today without a referral letter. (We are PPO, no referral is needed) Because he cancelled 3 different apts. (NOT no show.. but cancelled) and it had been more than two years (we brought his current records and had a A1C done 4 days before the apt so, she would have current info to look at) ARG.. REALLY.. Does she think she can treat people like that and they will come back. ^&**&**&$#$ :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: wtf.gif

    So.. now I am sitting here at the surgery center waiting on the knee specialist to finish my DH knee surgery and trying to kill some time. Sometimes I wonder what our world is coming to.
    I agree with Mstahl !! this is wrong and you should take action!!!
  • awestfall
    awestfall Posts: 1,774 Member
    ColoradoGirl, that was rude. They should have NEVER made that apt. if they were not planning to see him. I would do what mstahl said to do. They were Wrong!!!!!!!!!

    okay girls, I have decided not to weigh in weekly for a while. I am becoming discouraged and wonder why am I doing this? I know that I am doing this because I never want to go back to where I was. I am doing this because I want to get healthy. I know all that and I AM going to keep going. I just need to see more coming off. I have not been able to change my ticker for a month. Part of it was because it was a lying ticker around Christmas. I have lost weight in the month of January but it was weight that I gained in the month of Dec. So it is starting to get discouraging and it does not look like I have lost any weight this week or last and I thought maybe I should just step away from the scale for a couple of weeks. We will see though I am sure t my curiosity will get the best of me on Friday. I am craving junk food again and I endulged myself today. Which after I already posted all the food I plan to eat will now put me over. NOW my plan is to do damage control and go work this junk off. Lets see if I do it. My daughter and I have decided to do Pilates again today so I know I have that but it is not enough to fix what I have done. So work out here I come:sick: Just feeling blah about all this. I am not planning on quitting so don't worry!! Just trying to find my motivation that was here the first 7-8 months when I lost this 40 pounds. Since Nov. my weight has been up and down!! No real changes in about 2-3 months. I am coming up on my 1 yr anniversary here Feb. 21 and I am bored. Anyways I am done complaining and I am going to go workout.
    Here it is Momma!!Get ready to read !!!! All those times you were there for me now I get to fill you in.First,40 pounds is alot of weight to lose to begin with,don't be like me and slip up and gain some of it back just to start all over again.I had lost 47 pounds last year only to gain 20 of it back and I kick myself everyday for it.But here recently something clicked with me.My husband gave me great advice.For the past 3 weeks now I have been change my diet to make it muh more healthy and more filling.Before to be perfectly honest I was still eating poorly but exercising like crazy to compensate for it which in return I was not losing a thing as you know.Now I am going to give you the advice I gave myself.Look at it this way,ask yourself are you eating right,really eating right? If you are proceed to the next question,if not listen up.You can still have the foods you enjoy ,and still lose weight but why not give your body more of the foods it needs to stay healthy and to lose the weight.I thought over and over again how many times I have craved a bag of potato chips and gave into them at 9 10 oclock at night and woke up the next morning asking myself was it really worth it?I do every now and then enjoy something I really want but I only eat half or a quarter of it.This worked for me last year when I lost 47 pounds in about 6 months.So I know it works!!! I never deprived myself I just taught myself to eat less of what I loved and eat more nutritious foods instead which I love anyways.Now I am teaching myself to do this all over again is tough but I know my body is starting to adjust to it because I am slowly starting to lose again.Although TOM is coming and I probably will be back up a few pounds this week but you know what I'm not worried about it because I know it will come back off,and you know why?Because I am treating my body right and giving it good food and exercise to lose the weight.With that said you know you are doing whats right for your body and if you aren't you know how to fix it and if you don't you have friends here to help.Just take it one day at a time and again remember its not about the scale moving all the time its about what your doing to change your life in a positive way and your doing that.I was worried about the scale too for awhile but now I am trying to chill and just realize that I am doing the right things and the weight will come off soon enough.I hope this helps!!!You inspire me to keep going so it was my turn to inspire you.:heart::heart:
    Also maybe restart your ticker like I did so you can have a fresh start.
  • bluenote
    bluenote Posts: 2,930
    I second that! :heart: :heart: :heart:

    check in:

    cals: great
    water: 64
    exercise: 40 mins bike plus arm work
    proud: made a healthy dinner tonight. :happy:
    edit woops sleep: not enough!
  • snowflakes
    snowflakes Posts: 640 Member
    Calories: over by 88 couldn't leave the olives alone
    Water: close - should have it by bed time
    Exercise: no
    Sleep: 7 hours
    Proud: That I was only over by 88 calories. I could have eaten at least half a jar of olives.

    Each of us has a story and journey that differ from person to person but we have a common goal, and purpose to get healthier in eating habits and exercise. We are not alone, thanks for being able to relate.
  • cris20056
    cris20056 Posts: 1,355 Member
    check in 1/26/10
    calories- under by 150 (i know i know)
    water- yes
    excercise- yes- biggest loser
    proud- I am really hungry due to TOM but I stuck to my guns, by the time I ate dinner I just couldnt even think of eating a snack, which was the goal to get to all my calories, but at least I didnt get that fast food I REALLY wanted
    sleep- heading to bed now, BF and I slept in different rooms last night and I didnt sleep well without him by myside, so tired right now:heart::love: :blushing: we are going to bed together :heart: :heart:

    good night

    Cris
  • llowry
    llowry Posts: 144 Member
    Checking in
    calories - under
    excercise - 30 on the wii
    water - over
    sleep - 7 hrs.
    proud - that this week I've managed to get up at 4:00 am to excercise before work!
  • awestfall
    awestfall Posts: 1,774 Member
    Checking in
    calories - under
    excercise - 30 on the wii
    water - over
    sleep - 7 hrs.
    proud - that this week I've managed to get up at 4:00 am to excercise before work!
    Awesome !! I woke at 6am to workout and I also just ran another 15 minutes during the last part of biggest loser.
  • Renea_Kay
    Renea_Kay Posts: 189 Member
    Hi everyone my name is Jenn and I would love to be under 200 lbs! I just joined this site yesterday and weighed in at 237.4. Thank you for inviting me to the group! I am really loving this site :happy:

    Welcome to the site :)
  • LittleSpy
    LittleSpy Posts: 6,754 Member
    01.26.10
    Calories: 1240
    Exercise: 30 min stationary bike
    Water: 80oz
    Sleep: 6 hours? I knew I was going to suck at this challenge no matter how much I love to sleep. I have too much on my plate right now. Last night I remember saying (as I was crawling into bed) that I wished there were more hours in a day and my boyfriend said "You'd just stay up doing stuff more hours if that was the case." And I returned, "There are just so many things I like to do!" And it's true! I'll sleep when I'm dead. :tongue: I don't want you to think that I'm not trying, though, because I am. And honestly, 6 hours is an hour or 2 more than usual on a weeknight for me.
    Proud: Working on more protein & fewer carbs (not low carbs, just fewer!) & I find myself actually changing food plans around that goal. I feel better today than I have for a few days so paying attention to protein & eating a little more than I have been is working. :smile:
  • HonestOmnivore
    HonestOmnivore Posts: 1,356 Member
    OK we knew this was going to be bad didn't we? The Brew-master's Dinner at Great Lakes Brewing Company - Seven courses with seven beers...

    Calories - over by 700 (that's 700 over the 700 exercise calories:embarassed: !)
    Water - just finished glass number 8! (I had about 64 oz of beer too!:frown: )
    Exercise - broke the elliptical machine but got 40 minutes in on the treadmill - then another 40 minutes walking at lunch!:bigsmile:
    Sleep - I set the alarm for 7 hours after I went to bed - husband was freaked out that we over slept but I still exercised and went right to work with wet hair an my breakfast packed!

    Proud - only had a little of most of the courses. Ate 1/3 of the soup, only a bite of the mashed potatoes, didn't finish all the beers (halfs - 8oz each). Oops - just remembered the bread pudding we split four ways! :embarassed:
  • lildebbie
    lildebbie Posts: 2,068 Member
    check in 01/26/10
    Calories - 1520 (under) woohoo 1st time all week.
    water - 3 cups
    exerceise - none :(
    proud - not too much...


    I think my daughter doesn't like this challenge this week. Everyday this week she has woke up at 5:15..she always gets up eearly but not sure why sooo early this week...i feel like crud too ...so i could really use that extra hr of lseep.
  • cds2327
    cds2327 Posts: 439
    checking in...
    calories: under by 600......(eesh)
    water: 62 oz
    exercise: 40 minutes treadmill, and 30 squats!
    sleep: 7 hours
    proud: hubby went to jack in the box, I said no.....decorated valentine cookies with son, I didn't eat any!
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