14 year old girls dressed as h**kers trick-or-treating
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Sorry, but my gut is telling me you created this thread because YOU are embarrassed that YOU were checking them out.
Typically a guy that starts off a conversation trashing pervs is trying to hide the fact that he is a perv as well.
Busted!
Eeeeew!! Well, at least you are honest about it.
That was a JOKE! arghhh! lol. .
Oh, phew...hehe0 -
Monkey see, monkey do. Children see it all over TV, movies, and some even see their own mother's dressing and acting a fool on Facebook.
This!!! And from some of the pictures I have seen on here and facebook?? That in itself speaks volumes. Why take a pic of your chest?? what are you trying to prove?? I have a big rack, but I don't feel the need to take a picture and post it on a forum or facebook. I guess when you are desperate for men's attention you will do just about anything.0 -
Have you looked at women's Halloween costumes lately? She was probably just wearing an off the shelf costume from a normal costume store. Leg Avenue costumes are everywhere these days, and slutty as hell (and that's just one company, there are others that are just as bad). You used to have to go to a certain sort of store to get them...now, not so much.
I agree that that sort of costume is probably not appropriate for a girl that young, but I do understand where she is getting it from.0 -
I am saddly guilty and ashamed. When my daughter was 12 she wanted to dress like an 80s singer for a school project, back then (the 80s) it wasnt trashy or slutty. So when I sent my daughter to school I didnt think too much of it, untill I seen her later for her project. She looked like a hooker. I still ask what had I done. Now every time there is some kind of event she thinks I am going to let her dress that way. So now when I dress her up for something with my clothes I watch more carefully to make sure it isnt slutty but yet some times it still turns out a little that way. Its not easy dressing a little girl up who has a figure, pirate or 80s icon saddly they dont look the way that we think they should. And they love it. I want her too look nice but not like a hooker or a slut. Like I said its not easy dressing a girl up.
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TRIGGER WARNING: Assault
I would just like to say that this thread is heavily based on rape culture. I will not explain completely what it is here due to trigger warnings, but I'll say a little bit about it.
Rape culture is, in part, fueled by the old-fashioned belief that what someone wears will provoke a rape or sexual assault. The average bottom wear for an assault victim (which, by the way, is 1 in 4 people) is sweatpants. In my case, I was wearing jeans and a regular t-shirt.
Part of it is also dubbed "slut-shaming," condemning either someone's choices OR their parents, in younger cases, because they are "asking for it" by what they wear.
Halloween is one of the big days of the year where everyone likes to circle around rape culture and continuing to fuel each other to live in fear.
Assault, rape, and perversion are not caused nor provoked by clothing. Rape and related crimes happen because there are people out there that constantly think in rape culture; most rapists don't even know that they are or can be classified as such, because rape culture justifies such behavior and blames these crimes on the victim.
Sorry but iv never seen a protifute wearing sweatpants and a tshirt before she got busted. Just saying...
I see what the OP is saying to an extent. It would come as quite a shock to open your front door and see something like that after handing out candy to little kids dressed as ninja turtles and spongebob all night. When I was a kid out TOT'ing I never saw anything like that.
Its not like he is a perv . Pretty low trying to make someone out to be something like that when he is obviously a family guy.
In no means am I accusing the OP of crimes.
However I don't think I'm reading your first comment right...I'm talking about rape victims. Even prostitutes can be victims of rape, and highly so. Rape can happen to anyone, men or women, of any race, wearing any or any lack of clothing. There is no evidence to support that there are more victims that were wearing less.
To think otherwise would be naive; everyone has the right to say no. I'm only trying to shed light on the fact that backing thoughts of shaming children or their parents for dressing their children or making such choices BECAUSE it may lead to unwanted sexual activity is indeed rape culture.0 -
Sorry, but my gut is telling me you created this thread because YOU are embarrassed that YOU were checking them out.
Typically a guy that starts off a conversation trashing pervs is trying to hide the fact that he is a perv as well.
Busted!
Eeeeew!! Well, at least you are honest about it.
BS0 -
I love the little girl that just came to the door in giant cardboard box with green squares on it with sweatpants and a long sleeved shirt. I asked what she was as I gave her candy and I got a big sigh and she looked at her feet and said, "It's a gamer thing" turned and left. God bless geeks! They are the hope for the future. :-)
I must show my 8-year-old son your post! He wanted to go out dressed as a character from a PC game he plays too, and we tried to explain to him that no one would know what he was. I'm guessing it's the same game the girl you saw plays. It's called Minecraft. She would have been a Creeper (exploding monster). The graphics are very squarish, large-scale pixelation, with first person POV. IIRC, a creeper kinda looks like a green blob with darker green square "spots" scattered over it. Son wound up using some pieces of an old costume and going as Indiana Jones.0 -
TRIGGER WARNING: Assault
I would just like to say that this thread is heavily based on rape culture. I will not explain completely what it is here due to trigger warnings, but I'll say a little bit about it.
Rape culture is, in part, fueled by the old-fashioned belief that what someone wears will provoke a rape or sexual assault. The average bottom wear for an assault victim (which, by the way, is 1 in 4 people) is sweatpants. In my case, I was wearing jeans and a regular t-shirt.
Part of it is also dubbed "slut-shaming," condemning either someone's choices OR their parents, in younger cases, because they are "asking for it" by what they wear.
Halloween is one of the big days of the year where everyone likes to circle around rape culture and continuing to fuel each other to live in fear.
Assault, rape, and perversion are not caused nor provoked by clothing. Rape and related crimes happen because there are people out there that constantly think in rape culture; most rapists don't even know that they are or can be classified as such, because rape culture justifies such behavior and blames these crimes on the victim.
Sorry but iv never seen a protifute wearing sweatpants and a tshirt before she got busted. Just saying...
I see what the OP is saying to an extent. It would come as quite a shock to open your front door and see something like that after handing out candy to little kids dressed as ninja turtles and spongebob all night. When I was a kid out TOT'ing I never saw anything like that.
Its not like he is a perv . Pretty low trying to make someone out to be something like that when he is obviously a family guy.
In no means am I accusing the OP of crimes.
However I don't think I'm reading your first comment right...I'm talking about rape victims. Even prostitutes can be victims of rape, and highly so. Rape can happen to anyone, men or women, of any race, wearing any or any lack of clothing. There is no evidence to support that there are more victims that were wearing less.
To think otherwise would be naive; everyone has the right to say no. I'm only trying to shed light on the fact that backing thoughts of shaming children or their parents for dressing their children or making such choices BECAUSE it may lead to unwanted sexual activity is indeed rape culture.
No I should have clarified that last part of my comment was directed to dinopro. The first part was just an off the cuff remark as most rapes are committed on prostitutes. At least according to the dept. of justice statistics.0 -
TRIGGER WARNING: Assault
I would just like to say that this thread is heavily based on rape culture. I will not explain completely what it is here due to trigger warnings, but I'll say a little bit about it.
Rape culture is, in part, fueled by the old-fashioned belief that what someone wears will provoke a rape or sexual assault. The average bottom wear for an assault victim (which, by the way, is 1 in 4 people) is sweatpants. In my case, I was wearing jeans and a regular t-shirt.
Part of it is also dubbed "slut-shaming," condemning either someone's choices OR their parents, in younger cases, because they are "asking for it" by what they wear.
Halloween is one of the big days of the year where everyone likes to circle around rape culture and continuing to fuel each other to live in fear.
Assault, rape, and perversion are not caused nor provoked by clothing. Rape and related crimes happen because there are people out there that constantly think in rape culture; most rapists don't even know that they are or can be classified as such, because rape culture justifies such behavior and blames these crimes on the victim.
^ Thank you. :flowerforyou:
I'm honestly just trying to spread the word. America has never been sex positive (assuming OP is from there, most people here are) It's a very difficult movement trying to get people to come away from age-old myths.
I am confused by your posts ( thought it was anti rape ).....at what age is it ok to be "sex positive".....................I am as sex positive as you can imagine....when it is two adults0 -
TRIGGER WARNING: Assault
I would just like to say that this thread is heavily based on rape culture. I will not explain completely what it is here due to trigger warnings, but I'll say a little bit about it.
Rape culture is, in part, fueled by the old-fashioned belief that what someone wears will provoke a rape or sexual assault. The average bottom wear for an assault victim (which, by the way, is 1 in 4 people) is sweatpants. In my case, I was wearing jeans and a regular t-shirt.
Part of it is also dubbed "slut-shaming," condemning either someone's choices OR their parents, in younger cases, because they are "asking for it" by what they wear.
Halloween is one of the big days of the year where everyone likes to circle around rape culture and continuing to fuel each other to live in fear.
Assault, rape, and perversion are not caused nor provoked by clothing. Rape and related crimes happen because there are people out there that constantly think in rape culture; most rapists don't even know that they are or can be classified as such, because rape culture justifies such behavior and blames these crimes on the victim.
Sorry but iv never seen a protifute wearing sweatpants and a tshirt before she got busted. Just saying...
I see what the OP is saying to an extent. It would come as quite a shock to open your front door and see something like that after handing out candy to little kids dressed as ninja turtles and spongebob all night. When I was a kid out TOT'ing I never saw anything like that.
Its not like he is a perv . Pretty low trying to make someone out to be something like that when he is obviously a family guy.
In no means am I accusing the OP of crimes.
However I don't think I'm reading your first comment right...I'm talking about rape victims. Even prostitutes can be victims of rape, and highly so. Rape can happen to anyone, men or women, of any race, wearing any or any lack of clothing. There is no evidence to support that there are more victims that were wearing less.
To think otherwise would be naive; everyone has the right to say no. I'm only trying to shed light on the fact that backing thoughts of shaming children or their parents for dressing their children or making such choices BECAUSE it may lead to unwanted sexual activity is indeed rape culture.
No I should have clarified that last part of my comment was directed to dinopro. The first part was just an off the cuff remark as most rapes are committed on prostitutes. At least according to the dept. of justice statistics.
Ah, yes. I understand better now. While the statement is entirely true from statistic, we must also keep in mind that an extremely large number of rapes go unreported (also because of rape culture and victim blaming.) The under reporting also comes from many victims not being able to get the help, support, or services that they need to report their incidents. (arguably rape culture too, but that's speculation)0 -
TRIGGER WARNING: Assault
I would just like to say that this thread is heavily based on rape culture. I will not explain completely what it is here due to trigger warnings, but I'll say a little bit about it.
Rape culture is, in part, fueled by the old-fashioned belief that what someone wears will provoke a rape or sexual assault. The average bottom wear for an assault victim (which, by the way, is 1 in 4 people) is sweatpants. In my case, I was wearing jeans and a regular t-shirt.
Part of it is also dubbed "slut-shaming," condemning either someone's choices OR their parents, in younger cases, because they are "asking for it" by what they wear.
Halloween is one of the big days of the year where everyone likes to circle around rape culture and continuing to fuel each other to live in fear.
Assault, rape, and perversion are not caused nor provoked by clothing. Rape and related crimes happen because there are people out there that constantly think in rape culture; most rapists don't even know that they are or can be classified as such, because rape culture justifies such behavior and blames these crimes on the victim.
^ Thank you. :flowerforyou:
I'm honestly just trying to spread the word. America has never been sex positive (assuming OP is from there, most people here are) It's a very difficult movement trying to get people to come away from age-old myths.
I am confused by your posts ( thought it was anti rape ).....at what age is it ok to be "sex positive".....................I am as sex positive as you can imagine....when it is two adults
I get where she is coming from about that. I also work on raising awareness about rape and being sex positive. They do go hand in hand and a lot of people don't realize that. It's about raising children that are not repressed or afraid of sexuality or think it is a bad thing, so they can enjoy it when they are ready. This is complicated to explain here.0 -
I am confused by your posts ( thought it was anti rape ).....at what age is it ok to be "sex positive".....................I am as sex positive as you can imagine....when it is two adults
Yes, my first post is anti-rape. From Laci Green and Carole Queen--
"Sex-positive, a term that’s coming into cultural awareness, isn’t a dippy love-child celebration of orgone – it’s a simple yet radical affirmation that we each grow our own passions on a different medium, that instead of having two or three or even half a dozen sexual orientations, we should be thinking in terms of millions. “Sex-positive” respects each of our unique sexual profiles, even as we acknowledge that some of us have been damaged by a culture that tries to eradicate sexual difference and possibility. It’s the cultural philosophy that understands sexuality as a potentially positive force in one’s life, and it can, of course, be contrasted with sex-negativity, which sees sex as problematic, disruptive, dangerous. Sex-positivity allows for and in fact celebrates sexual diversity, differing desires and relationships structures, and individual choices based on consent."
In short, sex, if all involved have given CONSENT, is nothing anyone should be shamed for by anyone, including themselves.0 -
. Are only adults allowed to dress as hookers?
YES
Exactly!! Kids are being sexualized younger and younger! It's inappropriate and bad parenting.0 -
I seen worse tonight there was a little girl in blonde wig, makeup, a bra type thing and a little tutu thing holding a microphone... What are you for Halloween??... Lady Gaga.... -.- wtf.0
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How did a post about a guy looking at a 14 year old's cleavage turn into a discussion about rape culture and sex positive???0
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Last year my neighbor had a girl trick or treating with a real live baby. They didn't come to my house because the girl was my sons age and probably too embarassed to come.0
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How did a post about a guy looking at a 14 year old's cleavage turn into a discussion about rape culture and rape positive???
*sex positive
Because the thread and many people that agree with some outdated ideas are unaware of rape culture; I was shedding light to the other side.0 -
saw some today in a very shady part of town since there is a highschool just blocks away. I was kinda worried for them and thought about their parents.0
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ROFL@ rape positive hahaha0
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Okay. .I am in no way suggesting these girls were in danger of being raped. I live in a VERY family friendly neighborhood and there was a lot of trick-or-treating activity going on and so 'rape' didn't even cross my mind. I'm just a bit old school and I'm also a parent (of a boy). It was just very surprising and really, in my opinion, out of place in that setting, where the streets were filled with wholesome family fun. . Add to that the age and it's just strange. . I was trying to get into the heads of the parents that think this sexualization of their daughters at such a young and impressionable age is acceptable. I suspect they all (the kids and parents alike) succumbed to the peer pressure. . It can be extremely difficult to resist.
I have NO problem with adults dressing in adult clothes going to adult events. . but even an adult dressed like that in that setting would have been highly inappropriate. .IMO. .0 -
ROFL@ rape positive hahaha
Glad to get a laugh out of a guy that think's a man with a family can't be a perv0 -
On Halloween, you can be anything/anyone you want--it's all about the fantasy, right? Well, for girls just coming of age (and older ones, too!), they want to be women--sexy, courageous, mesmerizing women, the kind they see in magazines, movies, and ads. It's a new sense of power, plus there's that whole "upset the adults" things going on. So personal power + upsetting adults with this newly found power to get people to pay attention to you = pretty cool for a young kid. That said, sexual maturity happens 2-3 years earlier than it did 20 years ago. That means the slutty Halloween pirates of today are 12; 20 years ago they were 15-16. I say live and let live, but someone should explain to young women three things: 1) they can express themselves and experiment with feeling attractive every day of the year-- it shouldn't be relegated to some weird, semi-secret slutty thing once a year, though there are more appropriate times and places over others, depending on how far you want to take it; and 2) there's more to a woman's value than her exterior charms; and 3) there are effects of bringing out the inner sex drive on yourself, your social circle, and your safety in certain circumstances, depending on your choices and those unanticipated ones of others, so be prepared in those ways.0
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What bothers me is that she is 14 and trick or treating
Why does it bother people that the "I like to have fun on Halloween" switch doesn't automatically flip off at a certain age? They're probably too young to go to parties...at least maybe young teens can stay out of trouble if they're trick or treating?
If they're attempting to be polite and in a costume, they get candy at my house, no matter the age.0 -
Sorry perverts. . no pictures. . Just an observation. .
I asked one what she was and she said "a pirate".. WTF! with a black corset and tiny little boy pants and calf-lenght four-inch heeled stripper boots!? and thigh-high fishnet!? . . I'm not sure which of the seven seas you are marauding, but I'm thanking the lord I didn't have a daughter. . egad!
I saw this craziness roaming through my neighborhood too.0 -
ROFL@ rape positive hahaha
Glad to get a laugh out of a guy that think's a man with a family can't be a perv
I was trying to think of a nice way to put it. .....Thank you0 -
On Halloween, you can be anything/anyone you want--it's all about the fantasy, right? Well, for girls just coming of age (and older ones, too!), they want to be women--sexy, courageous, mesmerizing women, the kind they see in magazines, movies, and ads. It's a new sense of power, plus there's that whole "upset the adults" things going on. So personal power + upsetting adults with this newly found power to get people to pay attention to you = pretty cool for a young kid. That said, sexual maturity happens 2-3 years earlier than it did 20 years ago. That means the slutty Halloween pirates of today are 12; 20 years ago they were 15-16. I say live and let live, but someone should explain to young women three things: 1) they can express themselves and experiment with feeling attractive every day of the year-- it shouldn't be relegated to some weird, semi-secret slutty thing once a year, though there are more appropriate times and places over others, depending on how far you want to take it; and 2) there's more to a woman's value than her exterior charms; and 3) there are effects of bringing out the inner sex drive on yourself, your social circle, and your safety in certain circumstances, depending on your choices and those unanticipated ones of others, so be prepared in those ways.
^ This is a good explanation.0 -
Often the parents won't know. They'll wear something else and take it off to reveal the new outfit when out of parents sight. People who don't have teenagers and say they will be different have a lot to learn hahaha.0
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Parents? I don't want to hear anything from them when she gets raped or knocked up by the time she's 16. Nothing wrong with feeling sexy or womanly but you don't have to dress like a slut to feel that way.0
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ROFL@ rape positive hahaha
Glad to get a laugh out of a guy that think's a man with a family can't be a perv
Wasnt laughing with you bro I was laughing at you.0 -
Plenty of 14 year old chicks have nice *kitten*. Y'all need to get over it. I notice when a teenage girl is hot. But I also realize she's still just a child. If her parents let her dress that way for Halloween, then whatever, I may or may not let my own....it just depends on the situation. Its not her fault at all if she's sexually assaulted. The guilt is on the attacker.0
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