Milk or No Milk?
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What else would you put in your cereal?!
I do unsweetend almond milk.
If it's unnatural for humans to drink the milk of other mammals how even more unnatural is it to drink the milk of nuts? Find me another animal that drinks milk from almonds.
You said milk of nuts. heh0 -
Milk is for poptarts.
BLASPHEMER!!!
Milk is for Oreos and chocolate chip cookies!
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Milk... Yes. I'll drink milk. Not a whole lot but after being in a pool for two hour swimming laps and doing aquafit, I find that milk actually helps. That doesn't mean that I'm going to drink a load of it but it has its place in diet. This information is in a whole lot of places: "Milk delivers a mix of carbohydrates, calcium, sodium, and potassium, along with high-quality protein, which aids muscle recovery."
Good enough. It works for me.0 -
I don't drink milk; I don't believe that our bodies are made to process it completely. There are many studies proving this, I just use almond milk instead. To each his own though.0
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How am I going to have a cookie without milk? How can I make Ice Cream without milk? How can I have a bowl of cereal without milk? What about the chesse? WON"T SOMEBODY THINK ABOUT THE CHEESE?!?
My wife and I are lactose intolerant. We buy the generic lactaid milk and we take a daily suppliment. I don't care who does/does not drink milk. I'm pretty sure Turtles don't have oatmeal but I like oatmeal and I will eat it so don't talk to me about what other animals do or don't eat. They are all just jealous because they can't figure out a playstaton anyways...0 -
I don't drink milk; I don't believe that our bodies are made to process it completely. There are many studies proving this, I just use almond milk instead. To each his own though.
Can you share a few of them? Thanks.0 -
I wouldn't say it's an unnatural food, but not a food adult humans need by any means.
Can you please name just one specific food (not nutrient, but specific food) that an adult human needs to consume?0 -
I don't drink milk; I don't believe that our bodies are made to process it completely. There are many studies proving this, I just use almond milk instead. To each his own though.
Can you share a few of them? Thanks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase
The amount of lactase enzyme that get sproduced after infancy decreases in every adult human, some substantially (resulting in lactose intolerance).0 -
I don't drink milk; I don't believe that our bodies are made to process it completely. There are many studies proving this, I just use almond milk instead. To each his own though.
Can you share a few of them? Thanks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase
The amount of lactase enzyme that get sproduced after infancy decreases in every adult human, some substantially (resulting in lactose intolerance).
People don't har enzymes to digest many things like corn peel and other things containing cellulose, yet people all around the world continue eating corn.0 -
I don't drink milk; I don't believe that our bodies are made to process it completely. There are many studies proving this, I just use almond milk instead. To each his own though.
Can you share a few of them? Thanks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase
The amount of lactase enzyme that get sproduced after infancy decreases in every adult human, some substantially (resulting in lactose intolerance).
It would appear that some adults can digest it just fine, regardless of whether or not the above sentence is true.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15777735
Individuals with adult-type hypolactasia lose their lactase expression before adulthood and consequently often become lactose intolerant with associated digestive problems (e.g. diarrhoea). In contrast, lactase persistent individuals have a lifelong lactase expression and are able to digest lactose as adults. Lactase persistence can be regarded as the mutant phenotype since other mammals down-regulate their lactase expression after weaning (the postweaning decline). This phenomenon does not occur in lactase persistent individuals.0 -
I stay away from milk. I've seen how they are fed and milked and that doesn't bother me. I just can't stand the taste. I will cook with it but cut it in half. Milk conception is just a choice that everyone should make on their own.0
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I wouldn't say it's an unnatural food, but not a food adult humans need by any means.
Can you please name just one specific food (not nutrient, but specific food) that an adult human needs to consume?
Cake:bigsmile:0 -
I don't drink milk; I don't believe that our bodies are made to process it completely. There are many studies proving this, I just use almond milk instead. To each his own though.
Can you share a few of them? Thanks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase
The amount of lactase enzyme that get sproduced after infancy decreases in every adult human, some substantially (resulting in lactose intolerance).
It would appear that some adults can digest it just fine, regardless of whether or not the above sentence is true.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15777735
Individuals with adult-type hypolactasia lose their lactase expression before adulthood and consequently often become lactose intolerant with associated digestive problems (e.g. diarrhoea). In contrast, lactase persistent individuals have a lifelong lactase expression and are able to digest lactose as adults. Lactase persistence can be regarded as the mutant phenotype since other mammals down-regulate their lactase expression after weaning (the postweaning decline). This phenomenon does not occur in lactase persistent individuals.
Oh, I had thought lactase levels dropped in all individuals after infancy but I guess some people keep producing it at infancy-levels. Some people can digest milk fine, others can't.0 -
:drinker:I wouldn't say it's an unnatural food, but not a food adult humans need by any means.
Can you please name just one specific food (not nutrient, but specific food) that an adult human needs to consume?
Cake:bigsmile:0 -
As I mentioned on the other thread in response to your logic - no I do not get it at all. So, I will repeat one of my responses" "I do not get the 'what it was intended for' argument at all. If it is good for your body, why not drink it? So, I do not see your reasoning"
Here is a study shows that milk is very beneficial, especially to people like me - women who strength train:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23075559
<snip>Overall, RE and milk/dairy consumption positively impact body composition in women by promoting losses in fat, gains or maintenance of lean mass and preservation of bone. Future studies in female athletes and under energy restriction with RE alone are warranted.<snip>
Also, here is a write up that explains how many people actually are lactose intolerant :
http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/upload/NICHD_MM_Lactose_FS.pdf
"An estimated 30 million to 50 million American adults are lactose intolerant. The pattern of primary lactose intolerance appears to have a genetic component, and specific populations show high levels of intolerance, including approximately: 95 percent of Asians, 60 percent to 80 percent of African Americans and Ashkenazi Jews, 80 percent to 100 percent of American Indians, and 50 percent to 80 percent of Hispanics. Lactose intolerance is least common among people of northern European origin, who have a lactose intolerance prevalence of only about 2 percent."0 -
Yes, I think it's weird to drink milk. We're the only animal who does this.
I don't drink milk and neither does my 10yr old son, and he never has, only breast milk,
which is the only milk we are meant to drink - ideally for at least 2 years.
No we are not the only animal to drink milk. Ever put a bowl of milk in front of a dog or cat?0 -
I don't drink milk; I don't believe that our bodies are made to process it completely. There are many studies proving this, I just use almond milk instead. To each his own though.
Can you share a few of them? Thanks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase
The amount of lactase enzyme that get sproduced after infancy decreases in every adult human, some substantially (resulting in lactose intolerance).
It would appear that some adults can digest it just fine, regardless of whether or not the above sentence is true.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15777735
Individuals with adult-type hypolactasia lose their lactase expression before adulthood and consequently often become lactose intolerant with associated digestive problems (e.g. diarrhoea). In contrast, lactase persistent individuals have a lifelong lactase expression and are able to digest lactose as adults. Lactase persistence can be regarded as the mutant phenotype since other mammals down-regulate their lactase expression after weaning (the postweaning decline). This phenomenon does not occur in lactase persistent individuals.
His is from Wikipedia. WIKIPEDIA. Not some fly by night medical organization. Jeez.0 -
His is from Wikipedia. WIKIPEDIA. Not some fly by night medical organization. Jeez.
I wasn't giving a study, I was just pointing out why millions of people cannot digest milk. Also, Wikipedia is awesome.0 -
His is from Wikipedia. WIKIPEDIA. Not some fly by night medical organization. Jeez.
I wasn't giving a study, I was just pointing out why millions of people cannot digest milk. Also, Wikipedia is awesome.
And when it isn't, you can go change it so it is.0 -
His is from Wikipedia. WIKIPEDIA. Not some fly by night medical organization. Jeez.
I wasn't giving a study, I was just pointing out why millions of people cannot digest milk. Also, Wikipedia is awesome.
And when it isn't, you can go change it so it is.
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I find drinking cow milk to be pretty odd. Especially since it is designed to nourish baby cows, who gain hundreds of pounds in the first year of their life!! I think the mere fact that there are so many people who are lactose intolerant/ have trouble with milk is a clear sign that it is not good for us.
But how is that even relevant when it does not make us gain hundreds of pounds in a year? And there really are not that many people who are lactose intolerant - I posted the stats a little earlier.0 -
His is from Wikipedia. WIKIPEDIA. Not some fly by night medical organization. Jeez.
I wasn't giving a study, I was just pointing out why millions of people cannot digest milk. Also, Wikipedia is awesome.
But many more millions can.0 -
\I wouldn't say it's an unnatural food, but not a food adult humans need by any means. As you say, what other adult anything suckles at the teat of a completely different mammal? As such, I don't buy into the dairy propaganda establishing it as a necessary food group. It is only designed to sell product. That said, I do occassionally enjoy cheeses, plain Greek Yogurt, or cottage cheese, but they are not exactly staples. I just realize they are luxury not necessity.
Check out these pics.
http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/animals/news-10-incredible-stories-interspecies-nursing?image=9
I posted this on the other thread but as the OP decided to try to rehash the same argument I am reposting the link here.0 -
Well, there are actually breast milk banks so this argument is out.
I think as long as you are not lactose intolerant, a little bit of milk shouldn't harm you.
If you don't like milk - not drinking it shouldn't be much of a problem from nutritional point of view?Still, we would find it VERY strange if that child drank breast milk from another human mother even if it was bottled.0 -
His is from Wikipedia. WIKIPEDIA. Not some fly by night medical organization. Jeez.
I wasn't giving a study, I was just pointing out why millions of people cannot digest milk. Also, Wikipedia is awesome.
But many more millions can.
Really? I thought upwards of 90% of Asians were lactose intolerant. Or are we only counting Americans?0 -
His is from Wikipedia. WIKIPEDIA. Not some fly by night medical organization. Jeez.
I wasn't giving a study, I was just pointing out why millions of people cannot digest milk. Also, Wikipedia is awesome.
But many more millions can.
Really? I thought upwards of 90% of Asians were lactose intolerant. Or are we only counting Americans?
Did you actually think about this before you typed it?0 -
Unless you are a baby, no animal based milk products.0
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His is from Wikipedia. WIKIPEDIA. Not some fly by night medical organization. Jeez.
I wasn't giving a study, I was just pointing out why millions of people cannot digest milk. Also, Wikipedia is awesome.
But many more millions can.
Really? I thought upwards of 90% of Asians were lactose intolerant. Or are we only counting Americans?
Check out the study I quoted. Only 2% of people of Northern European descent exhibit lactose intolerance for example. In the US only 16% do.
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His is from Wikipedia. WIKIPEDIA. Not some fly by night medical organization. Jeez.
I wasn't giving a study, I was just pointing out why millions of people cannot digest milk. Also, Wikipedia is awesome.
But many more millions can.
Really? I thought upwards of 90% of Asians were lactose intolerant. Or are we only counting Americans?
Did you actually think about this before you typed it?
The study she posted pointed out that fewer Americans were lactose intolerant than those that weren't. I am saying that a global study would likely be different because people of Asian descent have higher rates of lactose intolerance than people of European descent.0 -
Milk fight! Yes! Not trying to hijack the thread, but I have a problem. My cat goes nuts at the sight of cow milk almost like it's catnip. I tried telling him that the internetz said it was unnatural, but he won't listen. Any idea how I can stop his barbaric behavior?0
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