which is worse, fat or sugar?

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  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    if sugar was your mom and fat was your dad, which side would you choose in a divorce?

    Don`t make me choose! :sad:

    Ha ha.............in this case and most every case, I would choose my dad. Fat is way better than sugar for consumption.

    Fat allows me to eat less, keeps my blood sugar stable and well tastes much better.

    Sugar makes me mentally unstable and plain old crazy, plus keeps you hungry from the roller coaster ride.
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    what if it was like the end of the good son with sugar as macauly culkan and fat is elijah wood?

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  • fishgutzy
    fishgutzy Posts: 2,807 Member
    Fat is better for you. The only thing low fat diets are good for is increased sales of anti-depressants and statin drugs.
    Your brain needs fat to function properly. And you need fat to maintain a good cholesterol balance.
    When I lowered carbs and raised fat intake, my blood glucose and A!C came back down to normal and my cholesterol and triglycerides dropped 30% in less than 8 months.
  • crimsoncat
    crimsoncat Posts: 457 Member
    Just a friendly reminder for all new parents out there that children need fat for brain development. :)
  • mandeiko
    mandeiko Posts: 1,657 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!
  • crimsoncat
    crimsoncat Posts: 457 Member
    What is glucose?

    A type of monosaccharide. The others are fructose, ribose, galactose, and xylose.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose

    Consider it another way of saying sugar.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Your body also needs sugar for brain function. Your brain cannot run on fat, it MUST have sugar to function.

    qft
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    if sugar was your mom and fat was your dad, which side would you choose in a divorce?

    I choose joint custody because what about cake?
  • beansprouts
    beansprouts Posts: 410 Member
    Sugar always stimulates my appetite...fat seems to curve my appetite...So I try to avoid sugar.
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,273 Member
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    So much misinformation in this thread, it's like Gary Taubes and Robert Listig are having an orgy...

    Neither is worse. Neither is better. They both have their places in a diet.

    And tracking sugar while tracking carbs also is silly. Do you also track every single type of fatty acid you eat? Or every amino? Or every oligosaccharide? Sugar is a carb. If carbs are in check , then sugar is in check.

    Keep it simple.

    As for the whole "your body doesn't need sugar" silliness, your brain and your muscles run on glucose. Most of what you eat is NOT converted to glucose. It's difficult for the body to create hormones out of fatty acids if it turns them into glucose first... Or to build muscle and create enzymes out of amino acids if it converts those into glucose first... What does that leave? Carbs getting turned into glucose, of course, the way we evolved to function. Humans evolved eating a high carb (50%) diet. While there is the rare exception (Inuits,) high carb holds true across all civilizations, through all time periods.

    This whole "carbs are bad" fad is just as silly as the "fat is bad" fad from the 80's and 90's.
    Thank-you
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    I'm so tired of hearing the words "eating clean" wtf does it really mean?
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    If sugar was a killer, then the human race would have died out long ago. Did you know that sugar is glucose?
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    if sugar was your mom and fat was your dad, which side would you choose in a divorce?

    I choose joint custody because what about cake?

    eggzactly
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Sugar always stimulates my appetite...fat seems to curve my appetite...So I try to avoid sugar.

    Interesting. I like to be sure to get cabrs *with* my fats, along with some protein. It keeps me satiated.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    So, 'clean' eaters do not eat fruit?
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    I'm so tired of hearing the words "eating clean" wtf does it really mean?

    It means the speaker is anal-retentive when it comes to eating. :laugh:
  • sammyjo0402
    sammyjo0402 Posts: 106 Member
    good fats are good for you. In moderation...
    Sugar is best limit more than fats.
  • jennaworksout
    jennaworksout Posts: 1,739 Member
    sugar is much worse than fat, except for transfat , thats just as bad , fats from good sources like avocados, nuts, meats, olive oil, coconut oils are really good.
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    I'm so tired of hearing the words "eating clean" wtf does it really mean?

    It means the speaker is anal-retentive when it comes to eating. :laugh:

    I just saw a show on rawists, one drank her pee every morning, one did enemas like every day and the third was a bit of a lunatic.

    they all were. like "I can smell cheese and bread and meat in someone skin", if you could smell that well, all you would smell is poop in their bowel. they all think eating cooked food will kill you.

    so yah, this clean thing to me sounds like bs to me. maybe I should google it. lol.
  • Shannon2714
    Shannon2714 Posts: 843 Member
    I am pretty much in agreement with the majority here....sugar is much worse than fat IMO..
  • DoOrDoNotThereIsNoTry1
    DoOrDoNotThereIsNoTry1 Posts: 149 Member
    By far sugar is definitely worse. Sugar raises your insulin levels. Any unused insulin gets stored in your cells as fat. Healthy fats in food such as olive oil, coconut oil, avacado, salmon, cod are quite good for you. On the other hand, trans fats, too much Omega 6 fats can be a detriment to your body. Excess Omega 6 fats which are found in your cooking oils increase inflammation in your body. I believe it would be better to monitor your sugar intake versus your fat intake, especially if you are consuming health fats.
  • jennaworksout
    jennaworksout Posts: 1,739 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    So, 'clean' eaters do not eat fruit?

    we eat fruit in moderation, not too much, mostly more veggies, meats , eggs, nuts and berries. I may have 1 serving of fruit a day, thats about it though.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Just a point that has not been raised yet as far as I can tell.

    Sugar has 4 calories per g
    Fat has 9 calories per g

    While fats are necessary, they are also 'calorie expensive' in comparison.
  • jennaworksout
    jennaworksout Posts: 1,739 Member
    1. Your body doesn't know difference between sugars in fruit or a donut. Eat too much of either /or and the body will not be happy. Although fruit twice a day maximum is great added fibre and viitamins.
    2. The body was only designed to handle so much sugar intake not the quantities we eat today.I don't understand why people don't see that and insist smugly that they can lose xyz while eating cake..yeh big deal but your health can still suffer even if you are thin.
    3. Good fats are better but you can still have too much of those too. Trans fat big no no.
    4. Read about low/low load and high GI foods, simple/complex carbs, thermal dynamics and leptin.

    This. Well said.

    ^^^ this
  • VFBloch0725
    VFBloch0725 Posts: 37
    They both can be bad if not controlled and administered properly. We need specfic fats for our bodies to function, but too much then our body will store it. We can get sugar from the food that we eat, simple refined sugar is not healthy by any means for our body, natural sugar is fine, but again, moderation. If you are an active person, then you will need more carbs for energy.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    So, 'clean' eaters do not eat fruit?

    we eat fruit in moderation, not too much, mostly more veggies, meats , eggs, nuts and berries. I may have 1 serving of fruit a day, thats about it though.

    You better be careful as apparently the sugar in that fruit (and the veggies) is going to kill you.

    Also, what about clean eating means you have to eat them in moderation. I thought clean was the type of food. Sounds like you are mixing up low carb with clean.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    tigerpalm.jpg

    So much misinformation in this thread, it's like Gary Taubes and Robert Listig are having an orgy...

    Neither is worse. Neither is better. They both have their places in a diet.

    And tracking sugar while tracking carbs also is silly. Do you also track every single type of fatty acid you eat? Or every amino? Or every oligosaccharide? Sugar is a carb. If carbs are in check , then sugar is in check.

    Keep it simple.

    As for the whole "your body doesn't need sugar" silliness, your brain and your muscles run on glucose. Most of what you eat is NOT converted to glucose. It's difficult for the body to create hormones out of fatty acids if it turns them into glucose first... Or to build muscle and create enzymes out of amino acids if it converts those into glucose first... What does that leave? Carbs getting turned into glucose, of course, the way we evolved to function. Humans evolved eating a high carb (50%) diet. While there is the rare exception (Inuits,) high carb holds true across all civilizations, through all time periods.

    This whole "carbs are bad" fad is just as silly as the "fat is bad" fad from the 80's and 90's.

    +1

    +2
  • jennaworksout
    jennaworksout Posts: 1,739 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    So, 'clean' eaters do not eat fruit?

    we eat fruit in moderation, not too much, mostly more veggies, meats , eggs, nuts and berries. I may have 1 serving of fruit a day, thats about it though.

    You better be careful as apparently the sugar in that fruit (and the veggies) is going to kill you.

    Also, what about clean eating means you have to eat them in moderation. I thought clean was the type of food. Sounds like you are mixing up low carb with clean.


    lol...I never said it would kill me, not sure where that came from....I clean eat and chose to eat 1 fruit a day...thats my choice...
    whoa :noway:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    So, 'clean' eaters do not eat fruit?

    we eat fruit in moderation, not too much, mostly more veggies, meats , eggs, nuts and berries. I may have 1 serving of fruit a day, thats about it though.

    You better be careful as apparently the sugar in that fruit (and the veggies) is going to kill you.

    Also, what about clean eating means you have to eat them in moderation. I thought clean was the type of food. Sounds like you are mixing up low carb with clean.


    lol...I never said it would kill me, not sure where that came from....I clean eat and chose to eat 1 fruit a day...thats my choice...
    whoa :noway:

    Read the first post I quoted. That did. Oh, and you said 'we' eat fruit in moderation which implies you were talking about clean eaters.

    ETA: makes sense now who the 'we' is - I see from another post of yours that you recently started eating paleo. Clean is not necessarily paleo btw.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    There is no single answer to this question. In general:

    If you are low on fat and high on sugar from fruits and vegetables that would better than high on fat from red meat and dairy and low on sugar.

    If you are high on fat from fish and fruits and vegetables and low on sugar, that would be better than high on sugar from added sources (table sugar, honey, sugary drinks, candy, etc.) and low on fat.

    But even those generalizations are not true for everyone. Too much sugar even from natural sources can be bad for some medical conditions such as diabetes or insulin resistance. Low fat (not fat free) can sometimes be beneficial for those with heart disease or GI problems.

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