which is worse, fat or sugar?

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  • Zomoniac
    Zomoniac Posts: 1,169 Member
    All of them. Everything is the worst. Just don't eat anything to be safe.
  • Sam3622
    Sam3622 Posts: 172 Member
    SUGAR is much WORSE than Fat

    Agreed!!
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    So, 'clean' eaters do not eat fruit?

    we eat fruit in moderation, not too much, mostly more veggies, meats , eggs, nuts and berries. I may have 1 serving of fruit a day, thats about it though.

    You better be careful as apparently the sugar in that fruit (and the veggies) is going to kill you.

    Also, what about clean eating means you have to eat them in moderation. I thought clean was the type of food. Sounds like you are mixing up low carb with clean.


    lol...I never said it would kill me, not sure where that came from....I clean eat and chose to eat 1 fruit a day...thats my choice...
    whoa :noway:

    Read the first post I quoted. That did. Oh, and you said 'we' eat fruit in moderation which implies you were talking about clean eaters.

    ETA: makes sense now who the 'we' is - I see from another post of yours that you recently started eating paleo. Clean is not necessarily paleo btw.

    Clean eating may not necessarily be Paleo............but Paleo is MOST certainly CLEAN eating. In fact, my whole lifestyle has drastically cleaned up since adopting this lifestyle.

    Errrr,,,,OK then. Not the point but ok.

    What was your point, other than to just put down the Paleo way of eating????

    From what I see on this site compared to people in REAL life that are clean eaters, this site advocates clean eating in a way that still allows processed foods.

    That is NOT clean eating.

    Good luck on avoiding all processed foods, something you already admit you eat as well
  • TrailRunner61
    TrailRunner61 Posts: 2,505 Member
    Our bodies dont 'need' processed sugars. We can easily get them from fruits, regurgitated bee vomit, etc. Our bodies do need fat though. I avoid animal fats as much as possible, but healthier fats from salmon, nuts, olive oil, etc., I don't worry about. I don't go overboard on them but I feel it's ok to eat them and they are good for me.
  • Marc713
    Marc713 Posts: 328 Member
    Way too many posts to read, but I suggest reading up on the Paleo diet, there is a lot of good logic behind it, although I don't agree with all of it, I do think that fats in food aren't nearly as bad as sugar and spiking your blood sugar level. In some countries, they eat diets high in (good) fats and are generally thin compared to other countries.

    Essentially, eat less processed foods and make choices that keep your food closer to their natural state and you should be healthier, gnerally speaking.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    So, 'clean' eaters do not eat fruit?

    we eat fruit in moderation, not too much, mostly more veggies, meats , eggs, nuts and berries. I may have 1 serving of fruit a day, thats about it though.

    You better be careful as apparently the sugar in that fruit (and the veggies) is going to kill you.

    Also, what about clean eating means you have to eat them in moderation. I thought clean was the type of food. Sounds like you are mixing up low carb with clean.


    lol...I never said it would kill me, not sure where that came from....I clean eat and chose to eat 1 fruit a day...thats my choice...
    whoa :noway:

    Read the first post I quoted. That did. Oh, and you said 'we' eat fruit in moderation which implies you were talking about clean eaters.

    ETA: makes sense now who the 'we' is - I see from another post of yours that you recently started eating paleo. Clean is not necessarily paleo btw.

    Clean eating may not necessarily be Paleo............but Paleo is MOST certainly CLEAN eating. In fact, my whole lifestyle has drastically cleaned up since adopting this lifestyle.

    Errrr,,,,OK then. Not the point but ok.

    What was your point, other than to just put down the Paleo way of eating????

    From what I see on this site compared to people in REAL life that are clean eaters, this site advocates clean eating in a way that still allows processed foods.

    That is NOT clean eating.

    Good luck on avoiding all processed foods, something you already admit you eat as well

    Stop twisting words, you know exactly what people mean when they don't eat processed foods.

    I don't eat processed foods. I do not eat grains, legumes, breads, cereals, crackers, cookies, store bought ice cream etc.

    I just ate vegetable beef stew made from raw meat, home canned tomato juice and fresh and frozen vegetables. I also had an orange and an apple.

    Nothing I just ate was processed in the least.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Our bodies dont 'need' processed sugars. We can easily get them from fruits, regurgitated bee vomit, etc. Our bodies do need fat though. I avoid animal fats as much as possible, but healthier fats from salmon, nuts, olive oil, etc., I don't worry about. I don't go overboard on them but I feel it's ok to eat them and they are good for me.

    Regurgitated bee vomit...:laugh: :laugh:

    Yes, our bodies need sugar, AND FAT, and protein. The body doesn't care if the sugar was processed by humans or by bees.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    So, 'clean' eaters do not eat fruit?

    we eat fruit in moderation, not too much, mostly more veggies, meats , eggs, nuts and berries. I may have 1 serving of fruit a day, thats about it though.

    You better be careful as apparently the sugar in that fruit (and the veggies) is going to kill you.

    Also, what about clean eating means you have to eat them in moderation. I thought clean was the type of food. Sounds like you are mixing up low carb with clean.


    lol...I never said it would kill me, not sure where that came from....I clean eat and chose to eat 1 fruit a day...thats my choice...
    whoa :noway:

    Read the first post I quoted. That did. Oh, and you said 'we' eat fruit in moderation which implies you were talking about clean eaters.

    ETA: makes sense now who the 'we' is - I see from another post of yours that you recently started eating paleo. Clean is not necessarily paleo btw.

    Clean eating may not necessarily be Paleo............but Paleo is MOST certainly CLEAN eating. In fact, my whole lifestyle has drastically cleaned up since adopting this lifestyle.

    Errrr,,,,OK then. Not the point but ok.

    What was your point, other than to just put down the Paleo way of eating????

    From what I see on this site compared to people in REAL life that are clean eaters, this site advocates clean eating in a way that still allows processed foods.

    That is NOT clean eating.

    Good luck on avoiding all processed foods, something you already admit you eat as well

    Stop twisting words, you know exactly what people mean when they don't eat processed foods.

    I don't eat processed foods. I do not eat grains, legumes, breads, cereals, crackers, cookies, store bought ice cream etc.

    I just ate vegetable beef stew made from raw meat, home canned tomato juice and fresh and frozen vegetables. I also had an orange and an apple.

    Nothing I just ate was processed in the least.

    Frozen veggies are processed, butter is processed etc etc. There is a difference between non processed and minimally processed
  • yo_andi
    yo_andi Posts: 2,178 Member
    All I have to say to this thread is good grief!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Sugar is the killer. Ask anyone who advocates eating clean. That is the first thing that has to go!

    So, 'clean' eaters do not eat fruit?

    we eat fruit in moderation, not too much, mostly more veggies, meats , eggs, nuts and berries. I may have 1 serving of fruit a day, thats about it though.

    You better be careful as apparently the sugar in that fruit (and the veggies) is going to kill you.

    Also, what about clean eating means you have to eat them in moderation. I thought clean was the type of food. Sounds like you are mixing up low carb with clean.


    lol...I never said it would kill me, not sure where that came from....I clean eat and chose to eat 1 fruit a day...thats my choice...
    whoa :noway:

    Read the first post I quoted. That did. Oh, and you said 'we' eat fruit in moderation which implies you were talking about clean eaters.

    ETA: makes sense now who the 'we' is - I see from another post of yours that you recently started eating paleo. Clean is not necessarily paleo btw.

    Clean eating may not necessarily be Paleo............but Paleo is MOST certainly CLEAN eating. In fact, my whole lifestyle has drastically cleaned up since adopting this lifestyle.

    Errrr,,,,OK then. Not the point but ok.

    What was your point, other than to just put down the Paleo way of eating????

    From what I see on this site compared to people in REAL life that are clean eaters, this site advocates clean eating in a way that still allows processed foods.

    That is NOT clean eating.

    Where on earth did I do that? A little sensitive aren't we?. I was pointing out that that clean was not necessarily paleo and the poster used the word 'we' so I was pointing out that the 'we' was paleo. I was also trying to point out that fruit does not have to be eating in small quantities to be still considered clean.
  • dcatty94
    dcatty94 Posts: 2
    BOTH sugar and fat are bad for you in LARGE QUANTITIES. Your body needs both of these nutrients for energy expenditure, but not much. A few pieces of fruit, and some healthy fats (olive oil, nuts, seeds) are all you need. Artificial sugars, added sweeteners, trans fats, and saturated fats are extremely harmful to the body. Don't completely cut them out, but make sure to get the healthier kinds of fats and sugars your body needs.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    SUGAR is much WORSE than Fat

    Agree with this statement
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    BOTH sugar and fat are bad for you in LARGE QUANTITIES. Your body needs both of these nutrients for energy expenditure, but not much. A few pieces of fruit, and some healthy fats (olive oil, nuts, seeds) are all you need. Artificial sugars, added sweeteners, trans fats, and saturated fats are extremely harmful to the body. Don't completely cut them out, but make sure to get the healthier kinds of fats and sugars your body needs.

    This whole statement reeks of myths.........

    Sugar is far worse than fat.

    There is nothing unhealthy with Saturated Fats.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    Your body also needs sugar for brain function. Your brain cannot run on fat, it MUST have sugar to function.

    There is no biological need for sugar and / or Carbs. The body can convert the glucose it needs to function through gluconeogenesis.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    if sugar was your mom and fat was your dad, which side would you choose in a divorce?

    Dad for a multitude of reasons.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Your body also needs sugar for brain function. Your brain cannot run on fat, it MUST have sugar to function.

    There is no biological need for sugar and / or Carbs. The body can convert the glucose it needs to function through gluconeogenesis.

    Please makeup your mind, either there is or isn't a biological need for sugar, since you say there isn't but then says it needs glucose to function. Is glucose not a sugar anymore?
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
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  • RobynLB83
    RobynLB83 Posts: 626 Member
    Yer mom!
  • hilaryhill
    hilaryhill Posts: 156 Member
    Sugar is worse.

    America has this obsession with thinking fat is bad for you. The right kinds of fats are really good for you and your body needs them for brain health among other things. Its trans fats and "fake" fats that are bad for you. I only eat/drink whole fat dairy, lots of coconut oil, olive oil. Refined sugar is bad for you. Natural sugar CAN be good for you, in small amounts, and in fruits.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    Your body also needs sugar for brain function. Your brain cannot run on fat, it MUST have sugar to function.

    There is no biological need for sugar and / or Carbs. The body can convert the glucose it needs to function through gluconeogenesis.

    There's no dietary need for saturated fat, or monounsaturated fat either. Better start demonizing them too.

    And don't forget about the 13 inessential amino acids. And cholesterol, we can't forget that either.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    Mmmmm fat.
  • chatogal
    chatogal Posts: 436 Member


    So you'd be perfectly fine with a blood glucose level of 0?

    ummm...that would only happen with an overdose of insulin....and then you would die""
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    Your body also needs sugar for brain function. Your brain cannot run on fat, it MUST have sugar to function.

    There is no biological need for sugar and / or Carbs. The body can convert the glucose it needs to function through gluconeogenesis.

    Please makeup your mind, either there is or isn't a biological need for sugar, since you say there isn't but then says it needs glucose to function. Is glucose not a sugar anymore?

    I blame these big dumb brain of our constantly demanding sugar! You know what I say screw you brain! So I remain in ketosis I'm a little foggy and feel a bit weak but I'm not gonna let my brain get the best of me.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Neither. They're both delicious and required.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    BOTH sugar and fat are bad for you in LARGE QUANTITIES. Your body needs both of these nutrients for energy expenditure, but not much. A few pieces of fruit, and some healthy fats (olive oil, nuts, seeds) are all you need. Artificial sugars, added sweeteners, trans fats, and saturated fats are extremely harmful to the body. Don't completely cut them out, but make sure to get the healthier kinds of fats and sugars your body needs.

    This whole statement reeks of myths.........

    Sugar is far worse than fat.

    There is nothing unhealthy with Saturated Fats.

    Nothing wrong with sugar either.
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    The only redeeming value from these threads is that my ignore list grows and future useless debate threads are easier to read :)
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    What's with all the random thread necros?
  • mrmagee3
    mrmagee3 Posts: 518 Member
    "Your body doesn't need sugar for anything"

    So who is twisting words, what does that mean exactly, either your body does or does not need sugar.

    Given that we're discussing dietary choices, and whether one should intake fat or sugar, a reasonable person would be willing to assume that she was referring to your body not needing external sugar intake, not that your body doesn't require sugar for biological processes.

    Or we can be pedantic and just try to play semantic gotcha.
  • mrmagee3
    mrmagee3 Posts: 518 Member
    The only redeeming value from these threads is that my ignore list grows and future useless debate threads are easier to read :)

    Thank you for pointing out that ignoring people was possible on this site! That makes this way easier.
  • momzeeee
    momzeeee Posts: 475 Member
    So I am always over on my sugar and I have been trying to work on it. Today I noticed that my protein shake that I love has no sugar but has like 6 grams of fat, and the greek yogurt I like is fat free but has 17 grams of sugar. I just wondered what you guys think, I'm not sure which is worse.

    Fat is not bad, I have it set as my highest macro number :) Sugar is not bad either, in moderation.