Wheat - Unhealthy or just evil?
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one year of wheat consumption = wheat belly
Fire Rock, Sometimes i look at these posts just to see what you'e said.
but mostly you look to learn useful information from me.
What was the useful information? chicken breasts as buns? lol!
Don't act like that didn't blow your mind.0 -
ONE! ONE POT STIRRED! AH HA HA AH HAAAAAA!
HA! I've been watching and reading you today. Not in a stalky way, just randomly on the forum. You, are funny. Plus I love the count. Bring back the count!0 -
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one year of wheat consumption = wheat belly
Fire Rock, Sometimes i look at these posts just to see what you'e said.
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it is neither. Gasoline is unhealthy and Burpees are evil.I read several major reports by big research organizations and I am thuroughly convinced that consuming wheat is unhealthy in every way. So I ask you, is wheat unhealthy or just plain evil? Thoughts?
Amen... especially about the burpees! LOL0 -
I read several major reports by big research organizations and I am thuroughly convinced that consuming wheat is unhealthy in every way. So I ask you, is wheat unhealthy or just plain evil? Thoughts?
Citations needed. What reports from what big research organizations? Because the info you supplied seemed to be from the paleo diet website, which I would hardly call a research organization. If I should cut out wheat, I want to hear it from peer reviewed sources, please.0 -
For a normal individual, wheat products are just fine. But, of course, not necessary to optimal functioning. I'm very thankful to be healthy so I don't have to worry about it! Gluten is just in too many good things
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Seems simple to me: If eating grains makes you ill...stop. If it dosent bother you, then eat.0
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Then dipped in cheese sauce...I like my Gluten FRIEDDD :smokin:0 -
Before: wheat (grains) for me --> tendency to overeat --> bloated and fat, hard to moderate my eating, craved sugars and carbs
Now: Eliminate grains (and some other stuff) --> fill up on veggies and meat --> getting thinner, no bloat, less cravings
Works for me.0 -
I don't think it's evil. I honestly do not care if anyone else eats wheat or not (if you think it might benefit you to stop eating it, trying stopping and see what happens if you don't want to stop, don't). I found that when I stopped eating it (and it's derivatives) several problems digestive and otherwise I had been experiencing for years went away (and return when I accidentally eat wheat again.) That is the only evidence I need or care about. If 'gluten free' had not become 'trendy' I may have never known to try avoid different foods until I discovered for myself the ones that were causing the problems (instead of just calling it IBS like doctors tend to do.) So I'm thankful that it had been brought to my attention. I wish it had not, I love bread and gluten free bread sucks, if there is ever some version of 'lactaid' you can take so you can eat wheat anyway I would totally take it and eat a loaf of french bread stuffed with lasagna.0
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If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???
KFC got it right with the double down. Use two chicken breasts for the bun.
Except KFC chicken is breaded, so moot point there.0 -
Yeah ... while I enjoy my grains, I could live without them just fine if I had to. I'm not sure why one assumes people are addicted to something just because they enjoy eating it.I read several major reports by big research organizations and I am thuroughly convinced that consuming wheat is unhealthy in every way. So I ask you, is wheat unhealthy or just plain evil? Thoughts?
I don't eat grains.
But you won't make any friends not eating grains here. Grains are the crack cocaine of the general MFP forum user. To each their own, but I'm free from that addiction.
It's cute that you think grains = crack. Maybe you've never actually seen a crack addict?
I have never been made ill by it and I have never had trouble losing weight because of it.
And I'll repeat for the millionth time that people have been eating grains for thousands and thousands and thousands of years.0 -
I am Diabetic. I test my BG after wheat products and unfortunately they spike me like crazy. So I dont eat wheat bread or grains =( The benefit for me is that
1. my crazy food cravings are gone
2. I dont overeat most of the time
3. Have lost a lot of weight
4. Dont feel groggy in the A.M. anymore
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FFS, why do things you want to avoid have to be "evil"? You have a problem with wheat and gluten fine. There's a possibility that gluten or wheat or any number of things have long term adverse consequences. You know what else has that? Everything. It's called life. Walking/running eventually wears down your joints. Breathing forces you to inhale chemicals. Regardless of what you incorporate or avoid, your body degenerates. It just freaking happens.
You want to avoid certain things? Cool. Have a good freaking time. Want to discuss it with like minded people? Awesome - start a group and post a regular thread about looking for/accepting members.
But don't post these threads with alarmist titles and condescend to people who disagree with you and then get all "people don't want to hear the good news about how they can be saved from the evils of _________."
Just. Don't. Just knock it off.
You can have my pepperoni sausage pizza sprinkled with Doritos when you pry it from my cold, dead, fat hands.0 -
Everything the internet says is true....:noway:0
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Also associated with autism. And a bunch of other disorders.
Based on my own body, it is best for me to limit wheat. I had hip pain for 7 years, until I cut out wheat. I had a "Bible Bump" on my wrist that went away. I no longer get the shakes when I haven't had it in a few hours.
Evil. But yes, I let my kids eat some. But no wheres near what they used to. I have noticed increased ability to concentrate since they cut back.0 -
You're not allergic to cats, by chance? Might have been cats and cat fecal matter in the air causing all of that.Also associated with autism. And a bunch of other disorders.
Based on my own body, it is best for me to limit wheat. I had hip pain for 7 years, until I cut out wheat. I had a "Bible Bump" on my wrist that went away. I no longer get the shakes when I haven't had it in a few hours.
Evil. But yes, I let my kids eat some. But no wheres near what they used to. I have noticed increased ability to concentrate since they cut back.0 -
A year ago, I would have been scoffing like many on this board. But, I kept seeing articles, seeing people say things online, listening to my friends. I finally went out and did some research of my own (books, with citations of the studies they presented) and was convinced as well.
Back in the day, tobacco was considered fine by most people and only a few people thought it was bad for you. Lots of time and effort went into educating everyone to the contrary. With wheat, it will not happen over night, but eventually people may realize that modern wheat is not all the great things that the industry says it is.0 -
You're not allergic to cats, by chance? Might have been cats and cat fecal matter in the air causing all of that.Also associated with autism. And a bunch of other disorders.
Based on my own body, it is best for me to limit wheat. I had hip pain for 7 years, until I cut out wheat. I had a "Bible Bump" on my wrist that went away. I no longer get the shakes when I haven't had it in a few hours.
Evil. But yes, I let my kids eat some. But no wheres near what they used to. I have noticed increased ability to concentrate since they cut back.
Nope, not allergic to cats, and yes, I was tested this fall. I am allergic to tumbleweeds and sage.0 -
Alarmist forum posts - Mildly annoying or Just Boring?0
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If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???
KFC got it right with the double down. Use two chicken breasts for the bun.
Except KFC chicken is breaded, so moot point there.
Not a moot point if you have the wherewithall to learn the concept and execute it without the gluten.0 -
GMO's take all the blame, but good old fashioned breeding for pest resistance, via human selection (or not necessarily - see plenty of poisonous plant species), can have some interesting side effects as well.
Wheat bred to be naturally resistant to the hessian fly (a major pest) is resistant through an interesting mechanism, it produces a lectin that attacks the midgut of the fly. Now, as I understand it, this resistant variety and its descendents are widely planted because they are naturally resistant. This does not mean that the mechanism of toxicity applies to humans. But it might, and if it did, not everyone would be equally susceptible, which is the reason that testing for toxicity is testing for the median LD50, which results in the death of half the population, not all of them. Some are just genetically and/or environmentally lucky. Lower toxicities would result in more survivors, with a low enough toxicity then you have a percentage that is affected, but not dead, and then others who seem unaffected. I don't eat wheat because I break out in lesions on my legs, though I'm not diagnosed with anything, and I haven't got the cojones to try spelt or other kinds yet. This doesn't make wheat evil, even the resistant varieties. And it doesn't mean others can't enjoy it free of any symptoms at all... but I am suspicious that breeding for pest resistance could be having consequences on some unmeasured segment of the population.
http://phys.org/news184878260.html0 -
A year ago, I would have been scoffing like many on this board. But, I kept seeing articles, seeing people say things online, listening to my friends. I finally went out and did some research of my own (books, with citations of the studies they presented) and was convinced as well.
Sorry to be anal, but I've seen a LOT of pseudoscience in books that are quoting actual clinical trails. Yes, the trails are legit, but they often come to different conclusions, are outliers, or had results contradicted by many studies since. Honestly, citations are meaningless to me unless I read the study for myself.0 -
I will cut you.
hehehehhehehee I like this response0 -
This sounds like fear mongering tbqh...0
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About the reading the actual studies...have you read them? If not, then you know no more than I. And yes, I have read some, but not all of them.0
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"I read several major reports by big research organizations "
Good for you. Please post the links to these studies.
I am curious.0 -
About the reading the actual studies...have you read them? If not, then you know no more than I. And yes, I have read some, but not all of them.
You claim to be a crazy cat lady. I need to know if you are an imposter. Prove it.0 -
About the reading the actual studies...have you read them? If not, then you know no more than I. And yes, I have read some, but not all of them.
You claim to be a crazy cat lady. I need to know if you are an imposter. Prove it.
I have over 200 cats. Does that prove it? (Okay, I limit them to the porcelain variety so that I won't be tempted to have more than two of the live variety. ) ;-)0 -
Neither! Demonizing food and using scare tactics mean nothing to me. I don't have any sensitivity to grains so I will continue to eat them in moderation just like everything else.
ETA: I have an intolerance to an enzyme in red meat and my stomach won't digest it. I guess I should google a bunch of odd ball studies to back up why beef is evil and no one should eat it... yeah that makes perfect sense.0
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