Wheat - Unhealthy or just evil?

Beastette

You have to drink an MSG shake immediately afterward to neutralize wheat's effects. Come with me if you want to live!

RhineDHP

The only thing that's evil is yourself. And by yourself I mean a person in general, and their choices and portion sizes of what they eat. You're your own enemy when it comes to food.

Really?
I'd like to think my future body will thank my present self's consideration to reducing my exposure to advanced glycation end-products, high blood sugar, insulin resistance, and bad fats. I feel like my own best friend when it comes to food. I feed the body good stuff, it thanks me by making me not feel awful. Symbiosis.

Yep, you can be your worst enemy and your greatest ally with your food choices. Don't blame or congratulate specific foods for your health, blame or congratulate your personal choices.

tobnrn

If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???

KFC got it right with the double down. Use two chicken breasts for the bun.

What if your on a protein restriction? Im Fooked. :sad:

Yani51

I think this post, about wheat being unhealthy, is straight from the Paleo Diet webpage...
http://paleodietlifestyle.com/11-ways-gluten-and-wheat-can-damage-your-health/

For another opinion of the Paleo Diet, from a "clinical professor of nutrition" I suggest reading this article from the Huffington Post website...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/20/paleo-diet-healthy_n_1898529.html
in which "Lisa Sassoon, a registered dietitian and assistant clinical professor of nutrition at NYU, agrees. "There's no real research behind it either. And it eliminates things that do have research behind them: grains, beans and low-fat dairy.""

Personally, I look very closely at the people, organisations and research behind such claims before I form an opinion. IMO the Paleo Diet assertions that wheat is unhealthy doesn't look like it has had much quality research from respectable organisations to back their claims.

craigineson

^^^ Listen to this guy. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about. I'm free of that addiction too, and it is AWESOME how AWESOME I feel. And no, I don't have Celiac, but IMO, it's true that MANY more people are intolerant of grains than we know. You go through life thinking you feel GOOD, until the day when you feel GREAT and realize "good" was just "okay." Eliminating grains did that for me.

I like you. You say nice things and don't spit venom in my face for my choices.

NormalSaneFLGuy

If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???

KFC got it right with the double down. Use two chicken breasts for the bun.

What if your on a protein restriction? Im Fooked. :sad:

Any allergies to cardboard?

tobnrn

If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???

KFC got it right with the double down. Use two chicken breasts for the bun.

What if your on a protein restriction? Im Fooked. :sad:

Any allergies to cardboard?

I hear it's high fiber as well. :drinker:

MissJanet55

I didn't read all four pages so I don't know if someone has already mentioned this, but my understanding is that wheat has been genetically modified to contain much more gluten than it contains naturally. This keeps it stable in commercial baking. Apparently you can test this by trying to bake bread or cake with a recipe from the 1950s - it won't work the same way it used to.

I have been gluten free for nearly two years and it has resolved a lifelong problem I had with my skin. In the spring I was in Vietnam and there were a few occasions where wheat based foods were the only option, and I had no problem with it at all. So I thought "what the heck" and started eating more and more baked goods, which is a great idea in Vietnam where the long history of French occupation has left behind a fantastic tradition of baked delicous things. No problem.

When I mentioned this to my doctor she said she hears this all the time from people, that when they leave North America the wheat doesn't bother them. She is convinced it's GMO wheat that 's the problem, not wheat itself.

lacurandera1

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one year of wheat consumption = wheat belly

Fire Rock, Sometimes i look at these posts just to see what you'e said.

but mostly you look to learn useful information from me.

What was the useful information? chicken breasts as buns? lol!

craigineson

I didn't read all four pages so I don't know if someone has already mentioned this, but my understanding is that wheat has been genetically modified to contain much more gluten than it contains naturally. This keeps it stable in commercial baking. Apparently you can test this by trying to bake bread or cake with a recipe from the 1950s - it won't work the same way it used to.

I have been gluten free for nearly two years and it has resolved a lifelong problem I had with my skin. In the spring I was in Vietnam and there were a few occasions where wheat based foods were the only option, and I had no problem with it at all. So I thought "what the heck" and started eating more and more baked goods, which is a great idea in Vietnam where the long history of French occupation has left behind a fantastic tradition of baked delicous things. No problem.

When I mentioned this to my doctor she said she hears this all the time from people, that when they leave North America the wheat doesn't bother them. She is convinced it's GMO wheat that 's the problem, not wheat itself.

Funny you should mention that, actually... A friend of mine has a wheat intolerance that *suddenly* went away when she lived for a year in a small rural town in France. I haven't read of anyone else who has had a similar experience.

There are alternate wheats - Like einkorn and emmen - which are genetically more simple than today's wheat. Today's wheat has (IIRC) 48-chromosomes, whereas primitive (but still available for purchase) wheats like einkorn and emmen have only 8- and 16-chromosomes respectively. Apparently they produce less of an inflammatory response, even in those sensitive to wheat, than modern conventional wheat.

I'm interested in trying it myself, as I know normal wheat doesn't agree with me, but I'll only believe it if I see it!

NormalSaneFLGuy

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one year of wheat consumption = wheat belly

Fire Rock, Sometimes i look at these posts just to see what you'e said.

but mostly you look to learn useful information from me.

What was the useful information? chicken breasts as buns? lol!

Don't act like that didn't blow your mind.

beachlover317

ONE! ONE POT STIRRED! AH HA HA AH HAAAAAA!

HA! I've been watching and reading you today. Not in a stalky way, just randomly on the forum. You, are funny. Plus I love the count. Bring back the count!

WendyTerry420

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one year of wheat consumption = wheat belly

Fire Rock, Sometimes i look at these posts just to see what you'e said.

ditto

darlilama

I read several major reports by big research organizations and I am thuroughly convinced that consuming wheat is unhealthy in every way. So I ask you, is wheat unhealthy or just plain evil? Thoughts?

it is neither. Gasoline is unhealthy and Burpees are evil.

Amen... especially about the burpees! LOL

richardheath

I read several major reports by big research organizations and I am thuroughly convinced that consuming wheat is unhealthy in every way. So I ask you, is wheat unhealthy or just plain evil? Thoughts?

Citations needed. What reports from what big research organizations? Because the info you supplied seemed to be from the paleo diet website, which I would hardly call a research organization. If I should cut out wheat, I want to hear it from peer reviewed sources, please.

slkehl

For a normal individual, wheat products are just fine. But, of course, not necessary to optimal functioning. I'm very thankful to be healthy so I don't have to worry about it! Gluten is just in too many good things

artickb22

Seems simple to me: If eating grains makes you ill...stop. If it dosent bother you, then eat.

lewcompton

I like my Gluten FRIEDDD :smokin:

Then dipped in cheese sauce...

caribougal

Before: wheat (grains) for me --> tendency to overeat --> bloated and fat, hard to moderate my eating, craved sugars and carbs
Now: Eliminate grains (and some other stuff) --> fill up on veggies and meat --> getting thinner, no bloat, less cravings

Works for me.

jesswait

I don't think it's evil. I honestly do not care if anyone else eats wheat or not (if you think it might benefit you to stop eating it, trying stopping and see what happens if you don't want to stop, don't). I found that when I stopped eating it (and it's derivatives) several problems digestive and otherwise I had been experiencing for years went away (and return when I accidentally eat wheat again.) That is the only evidence I need or care about. If 'gluten free' had not become 'trendy' I may have never known to try avoid different foods until I discovered for myself the ones that were causing the problems (instead of just calling it IBS like doctors tend to do.) So I'm thankful that it had been brought to my attention. I wish it had not, I love bread and gluten free bread sucks, if there is ever some version of 'lactaid' you can take so you can eat wheat anyway I would totally take it and eat a loaf of french bread stuffed with lasagna.