GMO Food Products

BogQueen1

Idk, maybe it would be good if my stomach exploded from GMO corn. Then I could sue Monsanto and be a millionaire and never have to work again. I'm sure they could put me back together, modern medicine can do just about anything these days. Including make a million little pills to interfere in processes they don't understand!

On a slightly more serious note. I think the claim that this has been around for 'decades' is a little... just a little over exaggerated. We didn't have GMO corn back in the 50's... or the 60's... or the 70's.... and probably not even the 80's. The technology just didn't exist to insert completely random genes into various plants and other organisms. I apologize if you disbelieve this, but it's pretty much a fact. We didn't get into true genetic engineering of our foodstuffs until the mid 90's. Soooo.... yeah maybe a decade and some change. But don't go on about decades like we've been eating this for 50 or 60 years. Because we haven't.

We have been playing with genes for several decades. "The scientific study of genes began in the 1860s when Austrian monk Gregor Mendel systematically crossed varieties of garden peas. He introduced the concept of a "gene" as a unit of heredity. In 1868, German chemist Friedrich Meischer discovered the substance we now call DNA"

Hybridization is just SLIGHTLY different then sticking bacteria genes into corn. Pea DNA is still Pea DNA, and not from some completely different organism.. Hybrid vigor is a legitimate concept as well, the idea tha outcrossing different strains of plants produces plants that do have the beneficial traits of both parents. This is not what I'm referring to in the slightest.

sunsnstatheart

but when you consider morbidly obese people, mass over consumers, and the amount of food waste-age that goes on in the United States alone, I think that you can see that the arguement that we can't feed all the people on the planet is just SLIGHTLY ridiculous.

I know, right? That whole international logistics thing is just a load of crap.

Shock_Wave

Idk, maybe it would be good if my stomach exploded from GMO corn. Then I could sue Monsanto and be a millionaire and never have to work again. I'm sure they could put me back together, modern medicine can do just about anything these days. Including make a million little pills to interfere in processes they don't understand!

On a slightly more serious note. I think the claim that this has been around for 'decades' is a little... just a little over exaggerated. We didn't have GMO corn back in the 50's... or the 60's... or the 70's.... and probably not even the 80's. The technology just didn't exist to insert completely random genes into various plants and other organisms. I apologize if you disbelieve this, but it's pretty much a fact. We didn't get into true genetic engineering of our foodstuffs until the mid 90's. Soooo.... yeah maybe a decade and some change. But don't go on about decades like we've been eating this for 50 or 60 years. Because we haven't.

We have been playing with genes for several decades. "The scientific study of genes began in the 1860s when Austrian monk Gregor Mendel systematically crossed varieties of garden peas. He introduced the concept of a "gene" as a unit of heredity. In 1868, German chemist Friedrich Meischer discovered the substance we now call DNA"

Hybridization is just SLIGHTLY different then sticking bacteria genes into corn. Pea DNA is still Pea DNA, and not from some completely different organism.. Hybrid vigor is a legitimate concept as well, the idea tha outcrossing different strains of plants produces plants that do have the beneficial traits of both parents. This is not what I'm referring to in the slightest.

Hey I had an edit in there you missed

Either way genetically modified corn was planted in 80 percent of the fields in the U.S. by 2008. I eat it all the time but I consider my self lucky that my stomach has not exploded.

hikeout470

How many of you have read "Seed of Deception"?

rml_16

Idk, maybe it would be good if my stomach exploded from GMO corn.

It would have happened by now.

This is not new.

BogQueen1

Idk, maybe it would be good if my stomach exploded from GMO corn. Then I could sue Monsanto and be a millionaire and never have to work again. I'm sure they could put me back together, modern medicine can do just about anything these days. Including make a million little pills to interfere in processes they don't understand!

On a slightly more serious note. I think the claim that this has been around for 'decades' is a little... just a little over exaggerated. We didn't have GMO corn back in the 50's... or the 60's... or the 70's.... and probably not even the 80's. The technology just didn't exist to insert completely random genes into various plants and other organisms. I apologize if you disbelieve this, but it's pretty much a fact. We didn't get into true genetic engineering of our foodstuffs until the mid 90's. Soooo.... yeah maybe a decade and some change. But don't go on about decades like we've been eating this for 50 or 60 years. Because we haven't.

We have been playing with genes for several decades. "The scientific study of genes began in the 1860s when Austrian monk Gregor Mendel systematically crossed varieties of garden peas. He introduced the concept of a "gene" as a unit of heredity. In 1868, German chemist Friedrich Meischer discovered the substance we now call DNA"

Hybridization is just SLIGHTLY different then sticking bacteria genes into corn. Pea DNA is still Pea DNA, and not from some completely different organism.. Hybrid vigor is a legitimate concept as well, the idea tha outcrossing different strains of plants produces plants that do have the beneficial traits of both parents. This is not what I'm referring to in the slightest.

Hey I had an edit in there you missed

Either way genetically modified corn was planted in 80 percent of the fields in the U.S. by 2008. I eat it all the time but I consider my self lucky that my stomach has not exploded.

I see your edit. I wonder too about the linkages. Corn gets genetically modified. Corn goes into everything we eat. Obesity rates skyrocket. Not saying the first and last occurences are linked, but overlaying those things on timelines can produce some pretty compelling evidence. Maybe our stomach's ARE exploding... just you know... in the fat sense.

ninerbuff

There's corn in just about every American food today. If this were entirely true, then the "poisoning" should have killed off a ton of people eating it by now.
Scientifically, ALL plants will mutate (helped or not) to survive.


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hsidky

And the question isn't that the people who are doing this haven't done the research to make this happen, or that they aren't well educated, but that they are changing things that may have more far reaching impacts then what they are considering, in their excitement about 'yay we made something that could theortically increase crop yields by x percent'.

You may have missed the part where I mentioned the rigorous vetting each product must go through before hitting the market. It is true, in some cases things go unnoticed before commercialization. This is most often seen with pharmaceuticals. Luckily crop protection isn't as susceptible for reasons beyond the scope of this post. If anything "slips by" regulators, it's likely to be more to the tune of a failure to perform rather than a massive outbreak of spontaneous intestinal explosions. You are most certainly questioning the capacity of the people performing the research to deliver a competent, safe product. You are suggesting they, and anyone who will ever touch the product before it hits the market, are too short-sighted to see what to you is blatantly obvious. You are insulting their intelligence.

I would present also the counter arguement that the world CAN produce enough food to feed it's current population, and probably a much larger population, especially if global warming continues and those pesky icecaps melt, which will open up new tracts of arable land (if your sarcasm detector fails on that, then I can't help you). Unfortunately until you eliminate those nasty things like politics and poverty, scarcity of food for certain classes of people will always exist. Possibly a sensitive topic, but when you consider morbidly obese people, mass over consumers, and the amount of food waste-age that goes on in the United States alone, I think that you can see that the arguement that we can't feed all the people on the planet is just SLIGHTLY ridiculous.

With all due respect, this is simply wrong. I am not saying that we will cure world hunger through GMO corn. That would be silly. I am saying that there are not enough resources to produce enough food for the nearly 10 billion people who will roam this earth in a few short decades. That is fact. This includes more effective utilization of food in first-world countries such as the United States. It is not ridiculous at all, it is reality. Which is why these companies are pouring billions of dollars, and thousands of man hours into this problem. Who's judgement do I trust more? Several multi-billion dollar corporate projections? or someone who thinks their stomach is going to explode if they eat treated corn... and before anyone goes there, making a profit and helping the planet are not mutually exclusive.

auroranflash

The latest I read today: Monsanto has developed a new corn that naturally produces a toxin that causes the stomach's of the insects that eat it to explode. This is supposed to break down by the time it is processed for human consumption but early research on rats has not born out this conclusion.

Brings a new meaning to "POP"corn.

rml_16

Idk, maybe it would be good if my stomach exploded from GMO corn. Then I could sue Monsanto and be a millionaire and never have to work again. I'm sure they could put me back together, modern medicine can do just about anything these days. Including make a million little pills to interfere in processes they don't understand!

On a slightly more serious note. I think the claim that this has been around for 'decades' is a little... just a little over exaggerated. We didn't have GMO corn back in the 50's... or the 60's... or the 70's.... and probably not even the 80's. The technology just didn't exist to insert completely random genes into various plants and other organisms. I apologize if you disbelieve this, but it's pretty much a fact. We didn't get into true genetic engineering of our foodstuffs until the mid 90's. Soooo.... yeah maybe a decade and some change. But don't go on about decades like we've been eating this for 50 or 60 years. Because we haven't.

We have been playing with genes for several decades. "The scientific study of genes began in the 1860s when Austrian monk Gregor Mendel systematically crossed varieties of garden peas. He introduced the concept of a "gene" as a unit of heredity. In 1868, German chemist Friedrich Meischer discovered the substance we now call DNA"

Hybridization is just SLIGHTLY different then sticking bacteria genes into corn. Pea DNA is still Pea DNA, and not from some completely different organism.. Hybrid vigor is a legitimate concept as well, the idea tha outcrossing different strains of plants produces plants that do have the beneficial traits of both parents. This is not what I'm referring to in the slightest.

Hey I had an edit in there you missed

Either way genetically modified corn was planted in 80 percent of the fields in the U.S. by 2008. I eat it all the time but I consider my self lucky that my stomach has not exploded.

I see your edit. I wonder too about the linkages. Corn gets genetically modified. Corn goes into everything we eat. Obesity rates skyrocket. Not saying the first and last occurences are linked, but overlaying those things on timelines can produce some pretty compelling evidence. Maybe our stomach's ARE exploding... just you know... in the fat sense.

Or it has something to do with people sitting on their rears in front of countless cable and satellite channels, video games and computer screens instead of going out and being active. Or schools getting rid of recess and PE and parents being scared to death to let their children just go play outside without constant supervision and control of their every move.

hikeout470

There's corn in just about every American food today. If this were entirely true, then the "poisoning" should have killed off a ton of people eating it by now.
Scientifically, ALL plants will mutate (helped or not) to survive.


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True, true. But if you have ever been a caretaker for a terminally ill cancer patient, you would probably wonder more about it.

Shock_Wave

The latest I read today: Monsanto has developed a new corn that naturally produces a toxin that causes the stomach's of the insects that eat it to explode. This is supposed to break down by the time it is processed for human consumption but early research on rats has not born out this conclusion.

Brings a new meaning to "POP"corn.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

rml_16

There's corn in just about every American food today. If this were entirely true, then the "poisoning" should have killed off a ton of people eating it by now.
Scientifically, ALL plants will mutate (helped or not) to survive.


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True, true. But if you have ever been a caretaker for a terminally ill cancer patient, you would probably wonder more about it.

So you're saying cancer didn't exist before GMO and pesticides?

Shock_Wave

There's corn in just about every American food today. If this were entirely true, then the "poisoning" should have killed off a ton of people eating it by now.
Scientifically, ALL plants will mutate (helped or not) to survive.


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True, true. But if you have ever been a caretaker for a terminally ill cancer patient, you would probably wonder more about it.

ummm Breathing the air can give you cancer...Smelling the gas you pump can cause cancer too ..etc.. etc..

jackpotclown

that's simply aMaize-ing.......\m/

hikeout470

To set the record straight, I did not say GMO's cause cancer. I think toxins cause cancer, and they are everywhere. Some crap produced in a lab classifies as this. And that is what a GMO is..

Shock_Wave

So OP you are saying for my insect problem I can simply throw away my bug zapper light
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and just use some cheap good OL fashion gmo corn around the house and that will be environmentally friendly conserving electricity.. woohoo!!

rml_16

There's corn in just about every American food today. If this were entirely true, then the "poisoning" should have killed off a ton of people eating it by now.
Scientifically, ALL plants will mutate (helped or not) to survive.


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True, true. But if you have ever been a caretaker for a terminally ill cancer patient, you would probably wonder more about it.

ummm Breathing the air can give you cancer...Smelling the gas you pump can cause cancer too ..etc.. etc..

I'm pretty certain cancer existed before the first human crawled up from the ooze.

EVERY time there's a thread about something like this, someone throws the cancer card. Gah!

hsidky

To set the record straight, I did not say GMO's cause cancer. I think toxins cause cancer, and they are everywhere. Some crap produced in a lab classifies as this. And that is what a GMO is..

On what basis? It doesn't matter what you think. What matters is reality. And it is quite far away from this...

scapez

Monsanto says: "Eat ALL the foods grown from our genetically modified seeds!!
General population says: "Ok! since you said it was safe, then it must be...on nom nom!"

Years ago, big tobacco said: "Smoke our cigarettes - they're not harmful - they're good for you!"
General population said: "Ok, since you said so...puff puff puff."

But now we know that cigarettes are in fact, quite harmful. I think we should be more open minded when considering potential consequences of GMO foods. Sadly though, most people will take any big corporation at it's word. History proves it.