GMO Food Products
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You know what else is a huge threat to our health and the environment? Too many people and not enough food.0
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I guess we could go back to growing the original maize (or other crop) and we could all pay way more for our food and that would solve the obesity problem because food would be too expensive for the average person to be able to stuff their face with it until they explode. North Americans are the only ones who seem to be having an obesity epidemic and IMHO it's because there's just too much cheap food available. If you had to work harder to get your food you wouldn't be eating nearly as much.0
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Let's not get into this game of making outlandish claims and use apocalyptic imagery to scare people. Resident Evil is a movie, not real life. If you do not understand the science behind GMO products, that's okay. But what's not right is to spread misinformation just because you fear the unknown. Each product by Monsanto and alike, is developed as a result of years, sometimes decades, of research. As many as hundreds of people and dozens of PhD's who specialize in that field can be involved. After they have a potential product, it still has to go through endless regulatory testing to ensure safety.
The way I see it, they are doing the world a service. Just because you have three grocery stores with thousands of different products on shelves so conveniently packaged for you to buy all within walking distance, doesn't mean everyone else does, nor that you will continue to have that luxury. Planet Earth is experiencing a population explosion. There simply is not enough land and resources to feed everyone - not so far into the future.
The best way to guarantee mankind a future without famine is to work diligently to make agriculture more productive. Better harvest, higher crop turnover, etc... Go do some real research and find out how much improvement people in less fortunate geographies have benefited from the fruits of GMO development. Think about this the next time you put an apple down at the grocery store because it's not pretty enough.
P.S. "you" in this article refers to the generic you. Not the author of this thread specifically. Many people are guilty of spreading this propaganda, often out of ignorance but sometimes out of malice.
Reeeeelax. The OP wasn't saying that finding new ways to enhance production of agriculture is negative. Just that this "new" strain that makes insects stomachs explode is over the top. Admit it, GMO stuff is not as good for you as Non-GMO stuff back 100s of years ago.
Also yes modern advance in medicine are great. Of course. But you saying:
"Each product by Monsanto and alike, is developed as a result of years, sometimes decades, of research. As many as hundreds of people and dozens of PhD's who specialize in that field can be involved. After they have a potential product, it still has to go through endless regulatory testing to ensure safety."
Is completely dumb. Sure they go through rigorous testing, but that doesn't ensure that it is safe. Have you ever heard the side effects of some DOCTOR PRESCRIBED AND RIGOROUSLY TESTED pharmaceuticals that can have various side effects such as: Chrohns disease, memory loss, dementia, breast cancer, stroke, heart attack, oh and INSTANT DEATH SYNDROME?
Those are real side effects of commonly prescribed pharmaceuticals. Pretty sure having the possible side effect of instant death syndrome is bad. Just sayin
You cannot compare the two - they are very different worlds. That aside, You are obfuscating two separate issues. Generally speaking, drugs are commercialized with KNOWN side effects that must be made clear to the consumer. This is very different than side effects that do not get identified during clinical and post-clinical trials. As for those, you can no deduce by analogy that the same applies to GMO, because it doesn't work that way. Why? I'm too lazy to explain but with the proper research you can find out.0 -
So, rationalization is a coping mechanism. You cannot help it. and for the person that said what I think does not "matter", you have not walked in my shoes and I do not care what you think. I "think" your reality is a bit out of touch. But that is just from my experiences. Don't take it to heart.
So the cancer this person you speak of had was definitively linked to GMOs?
So, do you work for Monsanto? Or are you making excuses for purchasing cheaper food?
Is it "answer question with a question" time already?
I work in labs. With scientists. White lab coats, petri dishes and everything. Will I conclusively say that GMOs cause cancer? Nope. Will I say they don't? No. All I can say is that there is no reliable, unbiased evidence saying that GMOs are linked to cancer.
Show me evidence and I'll listen. Until then, it's all theories with no basis in reality.
Well, that explains everything. Bigger picture is not underrated.0 -
Do you not realize how deep in corporate pockets our government is? Do you really think that Monsanto doesn't strong arm officials to get their products pushed to market? Do you really think that the overwhelming desire for more, and that corporate greed will really be pushed down and that Monsanto is a truly altruistic company with NOTHING but the best long term interests of humanity at it's heart?
You must have skipped over the last sentence where I say that making money and trying to do something good are not mutually exclusive.
I did not. I do think however that you are ignoring the fact that the push for profits can cause people to take short cuts in their processes. You can say 'my motivation is to do something good, and that I can make a profit off it is just a bonus. Or you can say 'I am out to make money, if something good comes out of it, then thats just an added bonus, but not my main motivation.' Presented with two doctor's saying this, which would you rather go to see?0 -
Hah. People are so hostile here!
I am aware that GMO has been going on for a long time. From what I understood this is a new 'strain'. And yes I do try and avoid corn as much as possible thanks. Unfortunately they sneak it into damn near everything anymore.
If you think there's no problems with it then why do you think that? Why do you dismiss it so easily as something that doesn't affect you in the slightest?
People simply don't care what is put into their food. If people actually woke up then they would have to realize that the packaged, boxed and frozen foods they eat are actually killing them and they don't care.
^ Basically.
Honestly, I find it interesting. I didn't hear about the GMO corn that causes bugs to explode, but being someone who used to be in environmental science, I can say that it could cause a huge problem in the food chain if the bug still had traces of the chemical in it. Not to mention, it's only a theory that the "toxin" wears off by production...
Don't understand the hostility... I think it's something to break from the ideas of microwaves being the death of birds and cause of infertility and us ditching them!0 -
"GMO BAD, GMO KILL!"
"I don't think it's as bad as you say it is"
"If you ever cared for someone dying of cancer you'd think differently"
"Do you have proof that GMO's cause cancer?"
"No, toxins cause cancer, and since toxins are in GMO's you do the math"
"*cough logical fallacy *cough"
"Do you create GMO's for a living?"
"...wait what?"
"That's why I'm right!!!"
"...I'm not saying you aren't, I'm saying you don't have proof"
"Look at the big picture and you'll see!!!"0 -
I'm really not sure why everyone is getting so hostile about people not wanting to have scorpion DNA in there tomatos
What's wrong with ingesting scorpion DNA? Eating arthropods is normal in many cultures, including scorpions.
Image: examiner.com Scorpions on a stick in Beijing0 -
I did not. I do think however that you are ignoring the fact that the push for profits can cause people to take short cuts in their processes. You can say 'my motivation is to do something good, and that I can make a profit off it is just a bonus. Or you can say 'I am out to make money, if something good comes out of it, then thats just an added bonus, but not my main motivation.' Presented with two doctor's saying this, which would you rather go to see?
Well, I suppose we are at an impasse. I am the glass half full, you are the glass half empty. Of those two choices, I definitely prefer the latter, but I think you are forgetting one more: the "My motivation is to do something good AND make a profit" category. It doesn't have to lean heavily in one direction or the other. Do you have compelling reason to believe otherwise?0 -
"GMO BAD, GMO KILL!"
"I don't think it's as bad as you say it is"
"If you ever cared for someone dying of cancer you'd think differently"
"Do you have proof that GMO's cause cancer?"
"No, toxins cause cancer, and since toxins are in GMO's you do the math"
"*cough logical fallacy *cough"
"Do you create GMO's for a living?"
"...wait what?"
"That's why I'm right!!!"
"...I'm not saying you aren't, I'm saying you don't have proof"
"Look at the big picture and you'll see!!!"
You forgot about my pea story.0 -
"GMO BAD, GMO KILL!"
"I don't think it's as bad as you say it is"
"If you ever cared for someone dying of cancer you'd think differently"
"Do you have proof that GMO's cause cancer?"
"No, toxins cause cancer, and since toxins are in GMO's you do the math"
"*cough logical fallacy *cough"
"Do you create GMO's for a living?"
"...wait what?"
"That's why I'm right!!!"
"...I'm not saying you aren't, I'm saying you don't have proof"
"Look at the big picture and you'll see!!!"
logic makes me happy0 -
Hah. People are so hostile here!
I am aware that GMO has been going on for a long time. From what I understood this is a new 'strain'. And yes I do try and avoid corn as much as possible thanks. Unfortunately they sneak it into damn near everything anymore.
If you think there's no problems with it then why do you think that? Why do you dismiss it so easily as something that doesn't affect you in the slightest?
People simply don't care what is put into their food. If people actually woke up then they would have to realize that the packaged, boxed and frozen foods they eat are actually killing them and they don't care.
^ Basically.
Honestly, I find it interesting. I didn't hear about the GMO corn that causes bugs to explode, but being someone who used to be in environmental science, I can say that it could cause a huge problem in the food chain if the bug still had traces of the chemical in it. Not to mention, it's only a theory that the "toxin" wears off by production...
Don't understand the hostility... I think it's something to break from the ideas of microwaves being the death of birds and cause of infertility and us ditching them!
Well I didn't want to say anything but my friend who lived in New Roads, La at the time and I supercharged our microwave and when him and I turned that sucker on I guess 5 00 birds fell on the city. Damn microwaves.. I guess they are just bad for birds
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/04/us/04beebe.html0 -
GMO was introduced into our food supply where I live without consumers knowing or getting to choose. Most people, when the learn about this, do not like it. Including myself. Other countries reject the products, and that is noteworthy in itself. I would like GMO products to be labeled, as I would never choose to purchase them if labeled. Hence, the whole GMO controversy is that the genetic modifications are for the sole purpose of making some corporation some extra money.0
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And to state my own opinion on the matter:
Many TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE things have been created with the best of intentions. Research into better ways to grow and harvest food, given our rapidly expanding population, is a necessity. You might have the money to buy only grass-fed, shiatsu massaged bi-weekly, sung to by Adele Live in utero beef, but poor college kids don't (not to mention folks in far less fortunate circumstances than we are given that we have access to the internet and time to dink around on MFP). Saying we shouldn't continue making these kinds of advances because of the risk is not only incorrect, it's impractical. Pharmacology, agriculture, etc are areas of great interest for research. Not everything that comes out of that R&D is going to be perfect, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying. Advances in these areas are done for money, yes. However, without them there is absolutely no way that we would be able to support the sheer number of people that we have living in some areas. There isn't enough pasture on the planet for all the beef we need to be grass-fed. Adele would get mighty tired flying from farm to farm to sing. And don't get me started if the masseuses go on strike because too many cows were seeking out happy endings.
Give me some of that grenade-o-bladder corn to dump in the NYC subways and parks. I'll take care of the rat and pigeon problem we have and will make money hand over fist doing it.0 -
Well I didn't want to say anything but my friend who lived in New Roads, La at the time and I supercharged our microwave and when him and I turned that sucker on I guess 5 ,000 birds fell on the city. He had like roughly 500 birds for him.. Damn microwaves.. I guess they are just bad for birds
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/04/us/04beebe.html
This is more Illuminati garbage and a cover-up story. Those birds obviously ate the GMO corn.0 -
GMO was introduced into our food supply where I live without consumers knowing or getting to choose. Most people, when the learn about this, do not like it. Including myself. Other countries reject the products, and that is noteworthy in itself. I would like GMO products to be labeled, as I would never choose to purchase them if labeled. Hence, the whole GMO controversy is that the genetic modifications are for the sole purpose of making some corporation some extra money.
Now that is a fair point to make. I'm cynical in this regard because I think the whole process of labelling is corrupt as hell (It's 99% sugar alcohols but it's alcohol so it's still low carb!)
I think there's a big difference between "I have the right to know what has been done to the food I'm buying and should be able to choose to pay more for food handled a certain way (which is becoming more popular)" and "that food causes cancer and ALL the people making it are corrupt and don't care if they kill the whole planet".0 -
I did not. I do think however that you are ignoring the fact that the push for profits can cause people to take short cuts in their processes. You can say 'my motivation is to do something good, and that I can make a profit off it is just a bonus. Or you can say 'I am out to make money, if something good comes out of it, then thats just an added bonus, but not my main motivation.' Presented with two doctor's saying this, which would you rather go to see?
Well, I suppose we are at an impasse. I am the glass half full, you are the glass half empty. Of those two choices, I definitely prefer the latter, but I think you are forgetting one more: the "My motivation is to do something good AND make a profit" category. It doesn't have to lean heavily in one direction or the other. Do you have compelling reason to believe otherwise?
I am currently working on my MBA. We have to take many classes on ethics. Open the Wal Street journal sometime and you will see my compelling reason to believe that the second statement is more accurate the the first. Every corporation out there, if given a chance, will take a short cut in order to increase profits, regardless of who it hurts, who it steps on, or what the long term implications of that are. It's basic finance 101. A dollar earned today is worth more then a dollar earned 10 years from now. The basic definition of a coporation includes 'increasing value to shareholders' which has been taken to mean increasing the bottom line. It's what they do. It's the reason for their existence. Profit, pure and simple. How many companies took short cuts on waste disposal of toxic byproducts of manufacturing and poisoned our environment? How many people lost their entire retirement when Enron decided to take shortcuts with their accounting and got busted for it? The responsible corporation is a rarity. Even the darling of wall street, Apple, was revealed to have taken 'short cuts' and produces their product overseas, paying sub par wages.
How many reasons would you like me to list?0 -
Well I didn't want to say anything but my friend who lived in New Roads, La at the time and I supercharged our microwave and when him and I turned that sucker on I guess 500 birds fell on the city. .. Damn microwaves.. I guess they are just bad for birds
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/04/us/04beebe.html
This is more Illuminati garbage and a cover-up story. Those birds obviously ate the GMO corn.
ok ok fine you got me...0 -
And to state my own opinion on the matter:
Many TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE things have been created with the best of intentions. Research into better ways to grow and harvest food, given our rapidly expanding population, is a necessity. You might have the money to buy only grass-fed, shiatsu massaged bi-weekly, sung to by Adele Live in utero beef, but poor college kids don't (not to mention folks in far less fortunate circumstances than we are given that we have access to the internet and time to dink around on MFP). Saying we shouldn't continue making these kinds of advances because of the risk is not only incorrect, it's impractical. Pharmacology, agriculture, etc are areas of great interest for research. Not everything that comes out of that R&D is going to be perfect, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying. Advances in these areas are done for money, yes. However, without them there is absolutely no way that we would be able to support the sheer number of people that we have living in some areas. There isn't enough pasture on the planet for all the beef we need to be grass-fed. Adele would get mighty tired flying from farm to farm to sing. And don't get me started if the masseuses go on strike because too many cows were seeking out happy endings.
Give me some of that grenade-o-bladder corn to dump in the NYC subways and parks. I'll take care of the rat and pigeon problem we have and will make money hand over fist doing it.
Really, This is what you believe? Another "researcher" trying to justify their job, Blech... Ignorant. Boring.0 -
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If you play/played in the dirt then you've already eaten BT. Understanding what something actually is would be the first part to understanding?0 -
/threadGMO was introduced into our food supply where I live without consumers knowing or getting to choose. Most people, when the learn about this, do not like it. Including myself. Other countries reject the products, and that is noteworthy in itself. I would like GMO products to be labeled, as I would never choose to purchase them if labeled. Hence, the whole GMO controversy is that the genetic modifications are for the sole purpose of making some corporation some extra money.
Now that is a fair point to make. I'm cynical in this regard because I think the whole process of labelling is corrupt as hell (It's 99% sugar alcohols but it's alcohol so it's still low carb!)
I think there's a big difference between "I have the right to know what has been done to the food I'm buying and should be able to choose to pay more for food handled a certain way (which is becoming more popular)" and "that food causes cancer and ALL the people making it are corrupt and don't care if they kill the whole planet".0 -
As a small-scale farmer who grows most of my family's food, I have three main concerns with this whole GMO thing.
1.) I don't like that GMO food products don't have to be labeled as such; as a consumer it is nice to have the information provided to me about the what and wheres of what I am eating. I understand that there is a lot of negativity flying around about GMO's and that is probably why companies don't want that smeared on their labels; it is the anti-organic and as much as being green and organic is in right now, you can bet on something dropping in sales just because it says GMO on it.
2.) I don't know how much I trust GMOs; there aren't generational studies to show that it is completely safe. And just because something has gone through the hoops of regulations, does NOT mean that it is safe; it means they put the right amount of money into the right pot to pass whatever test. This is the panic-driven consumer in me speaking. On the other hand, I don't think there is a cave full of mad-scientists purposefully bringing about the end of the world as we know if by screwing with our corn. There is a lot of good intention behind the science, but it is still too easy for me to feel skeptical of what the media and masses are saying; I don't feel fully informed, no matter how much I research it. To play it safe I grow my own food as best as I can, raise rabbits for meat and fertilizer, and try to support my local farmers when there is something I can't grow or make myself.
3.) Again, as a small scale farmer it is very scary to know that I could be sued if my neighbor's corn, a Monsanto product, cross pollinated with mine and I went on to save seed from my corn to sell to other people at the farmer's market. (If I would even be able to save viable seed from the plants; you literally can NOT save seed from many Monsanto products; for the most part they are hybrids and the seed saved from them won't produce the same plant as the parent plant.) The money to be made in this situation for MonSanto is massive, which automatically makes them seem suspicious. It is expensive to have to buy new seed stock every year and this expense, among many others, is a big reason why it is so hard to start a small farm and be successful; without government subsidizing it is just not profitable to be a farmer. You can't make a living, pay for the land, and feed your family. However, I don't think it is MonSanto's fault. They are the direct result of today's industrial agriculture and the need for speed and efficiency.
Its so easy to point fingers and play the blame game, but it is our own responsibility to educate ourselves and make informed decisions from there instead of believing everything on the internet. I made the decision to play it safe and stick with tried and true methods of feeding myself.0 -
And to state my own opinion on the matter:
Many TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE things have been created with the best of intentions. Research into better ways to grow and harvest food, given our rapidly expanding population, is a necessity. You might have the money to buy only grass-fed, shiatsu massaged bi-weekly, sung to by Adele Live in utero beef, but poor college kids don't (not to mention folks in far less fortunate circumstances than we are given that we have access to the internet and time to dink around on MFP). Saying we shouldn't continue making these kinds of advances because of the risk is not only incorrect, it's impractical. Pharmacology, agriculture, etc are areas of great interest for research. Not everything that comes out of that R&D is going to be perfect, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying. Advances in these areas are done for money, yes. However, without them there is absolutely no way that we would be able to support the sheer number of people that we have living in some areas. There isn't enough pasture on the planet for all the beef we need to be grass-fed. Adele would get mighty tired flying from farm to farm to sing. And don't get me started if the masseuses go on strike because too many cows were seeking out happy endings.
Give me some of that grenade-o-bladder corn to dump in the NYC subways and parks. I'll take care of the rat and pigeon problem we have and will make money hand over fist doing it.
Really, This is what you believe? Another "researcher" trying to justify their job, Blech... Ignorant. Boring.
whoah, wait a second. back up. you think all research should stop? where do you think things like chemotherapy came from?
take away all research and development. what kind of world would you have today?0 -
Give me some of that grenade-o-bladder corn to dump in the NYC subways and parks. I'll take care of the rat and pigeon problem we have and will make money hand over fist doing it.
Really, This is what you believe? Another "researcher" trying to justify their job, Blech... Ignorant. Boring.
DUDE Grenade O Corn is real... ya now who's ignorant but I at least I am not boring..
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3.) Again, as a small scale farmer it is very scary to know that I could be sued if my neighbor's corn, a Monsanto product, cross pollinated with mine and I went on to save seed from my corn to sell to other people at the farmer's market. (If I would even be able to save viable seed from the plants; you literally can NOT save seed from many Monsanto products; for the most part they are hybrids and the seed saved from them won't produce the same plant as the parent plant.) The money to be made in this situation for MonSanto is massive, which automatically makes them seem suspicious. It is expensive to have to buy new seed stock every year and this expense, among many others, is a big reason why it is so hard to start a small farm and be successful; without government subsidizing it is just not profitable to be a farmer. You can't make a living, pay for the land, and feed your family. However, I don't think it is MonSanto's fault. They are the direct result of today's industrial agriculture and the need for speed and efficiency.
I read a book once written by Margaret Atwood, called Oryx and Crake. I realize it's fiction, but the world she described was just this. The seed companies had reached the point where they created seeds that would grow once, but the seeds that those plants produced would not grow. It's basically a genetic modification post apocalyptic world gone totally wrong. Chickie nubs and stuff. It was a decent book to read, if you are into that sort of thing.0 -
I remember when I first won a debate by calling someone a big stupid head. It was so satisfying, and far easier than actually making a valid point.Really, This is what you believe? Another "researcher" trying to justify their job, Blech... Ignorant. Boring.I am currently working on my MBA. We have to take many classes on ethics. Open the Wal Street journal sometime and you will see my compelling reason to believe that the second statement is more accurate the the first. Every corporation out there, if given a chance, will take a short cut in order to increase profits, regardless of who it hurts, who it steps on, or what the long term implications of that are. It's basic finance 101. A dollar earned today is worth more then a dollar earned 10 years from now. The basic definition of a coporation includes 'increasing value to shareholders' which has been taken to mean increasing the bottom line. It's what they do. It's the reason for their existence. Profit, pure and simple. How many companies took short cuts on waste disposal of toxic byproducts of manufacturing and poisoned our environment? How many people lost their entire retirement when Enron decided to take shortcuts with their accounting and got busted for it? The responsible corporation is a rarity. Even the darling of wall street, Apple, was revealed to have taken 'short cuts' and produces their product overseas, paying sub par wages.
How many reasons would you like me to list?
If businesses are so bad, why are you getting a masters degree in Business Administration?
It's far more complicated than you make it out to be. Businesses are made up of people. Their actions are furthered by people, be it the employee, the employer, the customer, or the investor. The actions of big business that you seem to detest so much are a reflection of us as a society. If I slack off at work and game the system, that waste has an impact. If I'm too lazy to hit the ATM for cash and go to a subway for lunch since they take credit rather than the deli on the corner, THAT has an impact. Folks are starting to care more about the actions of businesses, and to account for that companies are starting to advertise the good things that they do for the community. It's not ALL evil, though it is almost exclusively driven by profit. That's the nature of a capitalist society though.0 -
There is no need for the GMO's to be produced for USA consumption, where the department of agriculture pays USA farmers to "not produce" The whole thing is crap and the Dept of agriculture is much larger than it was when it actually produced agriculture A load of doo doo. To the Researchers, I feel for you, but do not try to justify your job here. Go do something worthy. And don't go there, with the world food population either. We all KNOW it is about politics. There is plenty of food, and plenty of bad leaders out there that control the food so the they can control their people.0
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There is no need for the GMO's to be produced for USA consumption, where the department of agriculture pays USA farmers to "not produce" The whole thing is crap and the Dept of agriculture is much larger than it was when it actually produced agriculture A load of doo doo. To the Researchers, I feel for you, but do not try to justify your job here. Go do something worthy. And don't go there, with the world food population either. We all KNOW it is about politics. There is plenty of food, and plenty of bad leaders out there that control the food so the they can control their people.
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Let's not get into this game of making outlandish claims and use apocalyptic imagery to scare people. Resident Evil is a movie, not real life. If you do not understand the science behind GMO products, that's okay. But what's not right is to spread misinformation just because you fear the unknown. Each product by Monsanto and alike, is developed as a result of years, sometimes decades, of research. As many as hundreds of people and dozens of PhD's who specialize in that field can be involved. After they have a potential product, it still has to go through endless regulatory testing to ensure safety.
The way I see it, they are doing the world a service. Just because you have three grocery stores with thousands of different products on shelves so conveniently packaged for you to buy all within walking distance, doesn't mean everyone else does, nor that you will continue to have that luxury. Planet Earth is experiencing a population explosion. There simply is not enough land and resources to feed everyone - not so far into the future.
The best way to guarantee mankind a future without famine is to work diligently to make agriculture more productive. Better harvest, higher crop turnover, etc... Go do some real research and find out how much improvement people in less fortunate geographies have benefited from the fruits of GMO development. Think about this the next time you put an apple down at the grocery store because it's not pretty enough.
I say we deal with the population issue instead. I too am concerned, and I really don't like GMO products. The reality is that I don't want to be the test case (and hate the fact that we've been the test case already) for a product that isn't natural. We see all sorts of oddities occurring (such as the bee die offs) and whose to say there isn't a connection. If our planet can't handle the population issues, it's time we address it. Sooner or later, it will have to come up - be it through sex education.
I've read various articles and from what I saw, Monsanto didn't exactly do anything nice for the Indian farmers whose crops failed. I have a real issue with any form of a science that creates a monopoly and makes it so that only they have the power to grow something as critical as food. That's the main reason I dislike it. It's like taking away freedoms which are inherent in our civilization. I prefer the original type of farming - take the best and most durable and breed it into the actual farming product.
What's next? At Walmart will I only be able to buy Monsanto seed and will I be required to pay the 'tithe' to them? That's a problem. A real, big problem. Personally, I plan on boycotting as many products as I can find that are GMO and I buy my corn ONLY from companies that refuse to carry it. I also write to businesses and indicate this is my choice.
If you disagree, that's ok; but, for some of us...it's the ideology behind how they are treating people that upsets us. It's not got the genetic modification. I've read horror stories and some of them on news sites from OTHER countries not just those random fanatical websites, actual news agencies, and when I see farmers faced with total destruction or the greed of genetic seed raising and the products not doing what they were told they would do...that's showing it's a failure.0 -
I think it's kind of funny to call a researcher ignorant. Kind of an oxymoron, wouldn't you say? I mean, your entire job is to learn things!0
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