GMO Food Products

testease

im going to go out on a limb and say it is not GMO's ruining your health but the fact you are eating way to much thats ruining your health.

rml_16

It is easy for you to regurigate information that the media spouts. However, studies show that OVERUSE and ABUSE are what makes tanning beds dangerous and makes people more prone to developing skin cancer as is the same with sun exposure..........it is the OVEREXPOSURE that causes the damage.

A few minutes a couple times a week is not enough to cause any damage, especially when it is only for the winter months. I am NOT an avid tanner and looking at me I have no tan.

There are some studies being conducted regarding this and this treatment is far more effective than taking some anti-depressant.

So studies showing that small doses of your vice are completely true and accurate...but studies showing that GMO's are safe are the debil?

Exactly!

monicalosesweight

Personally, I plan on boycotting as many products as I can find that are GMO and I buy my corn ONLY from companies that refuse to carry it. I also write to businesses and indicate this is my choice.

You do realize we're talking about corn in general not the couple of cobs of sweet corn you buy for your Sunday BBQ? The billions of tons used for animal feed, sweeteners, cereal, pet food (oh no, they got Fluffy too!), thickeners, oils, etc not just the bit you buy fresh? As far as I know there's only one sweet corn that is BT registered at this time.

Yes. I do know what you're talking about and I also disagree with using GMO corn for ANY reason. I don't like it fed to animals and I don't want it in my food supply. I feel we are taking unnecessary risks with our food supplies and tampering with foods through DNA is a huge mistake. It's too easy to create a disaster. It's bad enough that we outlawed certain pesticides in this country and than we allowed the same sales of these products overseas so that South American countries can use them to raise crops which we in turn will eat. Rediculous. If we outlaw it here, we should not allow it to be sold elsewhere.

monicalosesweight

Considering GMO crops are actually illegal to grow in many countries including most of the EU and France where they are also investigating placing a ban on GMO imports I will take the 3rd party not tied financially to Monsanto research over the stuff that comes from the US - sorry but the US economy is too tied to big corporations to be trusted..

Don't people wonder why most of Europe has banned GMO, let me guess they are ALL crazy? I think not.

There are a lot of things we do in this country and we are super slooooooow in dealing with them. For example, we've been waiting for an eternity (hyperbole) for the FDA to FINALLY come up with gluten free standards. Europe has had them for years. We, we are still discussing and arguing over it.

Monica

Here's something interesting...apparently the World Bank is thinking of giving them a bailout. If a company can't sustain itself, they really shouldn't be giving them money.

http://www.naturalindependent.com/archives/9838/monsanto-on-verge-of-40-million-gmo-bailout-in-europe-report/

ArroganceInStep

There are a lot of things we do in this country and we are super slooooooow in dealing with them. For example, we've been waiting for an eternity (hyperbole) for the FDA to FINALLY come up with gluten free standards. Europe has had them for years. We, we are still discussing and arguing over it.

Monica

Here's something interesting...apparently the World Bank is thinking of giving them a bailout. If a company can't sustain itself, they really shouldn't be giving them money.

http://www.naturalindependent.com/archives/9838/monsanto-on-verge-of-40-million-gmo-bailout-in-europe-report/

Did you read the article? It's not saying what you think it is.

Also the french study showing signs of cancer was widely criticized because it followed terrible practice and was clearly a biased effort.

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/six-french-science-academies-dismiss-study-finding-gm-corn-harmed-rats/

DonniesGirl69

This isn't new information, but........

Monsanto is the devil.
That's all.....

Shock_Wave

This isn't new information, but........

Monsanto is the devil.
That's all.....

LOL @ Monsanto is the devil...:devil: The book of revelations is here aaahhhhhh... haha. Monsanto will take over the world food supply and you will not be able to buy food if it isn't GMO. If you are anti-GMO you will be kicked out of society and forced to live on the land and in order to live in society you will have to be identified by putting the number 666 on your hands or face..


LMAO..:laugh: I should be careful joking as such because some people are really loony tunes and might actually agree with me..

monicalosesweight

There are a lot of things we do in this country and we are super slooooooow in dealing with them. For example, we've been waiting for an eternity (hyperbole) for the FDA to FINALLY come up with gluten free standards. Europe has had them for years. We, we are still discussing and arguing over it.

Monica

Here's something interesting...apparently the World Bank is thinking of giving them a bailout. If a company can't sustain itself, they really shouldn't be giving them money.

http://www.naturalindependent.com/archives/9838/monsanto-on-verge-of-40-million-gmo-bailout-in-europe-report/

Did you read the article? It's not saying what you think it is.

Also the french study showing signs of cancer was widely criticized because it followed terrible practice and was clearly a biased effort.

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/six-french-science-academies-dismiss-study-finding-gm-corn-harmed-rats/

It indicates that people couldn't afford to pay for the seed so they are getting money - nowhere did I see that the money was going to the farmers. It specifies that it goes to Monsanto which means it's a company getting propped up by funds due to monies they lost. That's what I read about.

Also, it's definitely possible the study wasn't done right, but that doesn't mean the studies exist proving it's a 'safe' product. Also, I don't like the fact that they can sue you if your field is accidentally infected by their crop. There should be laws, just like the ones that say if something appears at your door, it's yours to keep. Basically, cross pollination by error should not allow them to go after a farmer. They have way too much power at this point what with the way the laws are written. I suspect these practices are some of the main reasons they are getting kicked out of countries.

ArroganceInStep

It indicates that people couldn't afford to pay for the seed so they are getting money - nowhere did I see that the money was going to the farmers. It specifies that it goes to Monsanto which means it's a company getting propped up by funds due to monies they lost. That's what I read about.

Also, it's definitely possible the study wasn't done right, but that doesn't mean the studies exist proving it's a 'safe' product. Also, I don't like the fact that they can sue you if your field is accidentally infected by their crop. There should be laws, just like the ones that say if something appears at your door, it's yours to keep. Basically, cross pollination by error should not allow them to go after a farmer. They have way too much power at this point what with the way the laws are written. I suspect these practices are some of the main reasons they are getting kicked out of countries.

So Monsato's customers who had made legal commitments to purchase product and can not afford to honor said commitments are having their contracts honored by the government, and that's a bailout of Monsanto? I can certainly understand not liking the company, but that news article and others like it jumped to using the term bailout because it has such a negative connotation right now. By that logic, ANY company that does business with customers receiving government aid is getting a bailout. If anything it's the farmers who are getting a bailout, but that doesn't make as catchy of a news headline.

monicalosesweight

It indicates that people couldn't afford to pay for the seed so they are getting money - nowhere did I see that the money was going to the farmers. It specifies that it goes to Monsanto which means it's a company getting propped up by funds due to monies they lost. That's what I read about.

Also, it's definitely possible the study wasn't done right, but that doesn't mean the studies exist proving it's a 'safe' product. Also, I don't like the fact that they can sue you if your field is accidentally infected by their crop. There should be laws, just like the ones that say if something appears at your door, it's yours to keep. Basically, cross pollination by error should not allow them to go after a farmer. They have way too much power at this point what with the way the laws are written. I suspect these practices are some of the main reasons they are getting kicked out of countries.

So Monsato's customers who had made legal commitments to purchase product and can not afford to honor said commitments are having their contracts honored by the government, and that's a bailout of Monsanto? I can certainly understand not liking the company, but that news article and others like it jumped to using the term bailout because it has such a negative connotation right now. By that logic, ANY company that does business with customers receiving government aid is getting a bailout. If anything it's the farmers who are getting a bailout, but that doesn't make as catchy of a news headline.

First of all, it's not our government - it's the World Bank. I think if a company chooses to do business in an unstable area, that's a risk they've chosen to take. For example, as a business person, the last place on earth I would establish a business is Venezuela. Why? Well, there's a dictator there that arbitrarily has a habit of nationalizing businesses and taking them away from foreign nationals. Basically, there's a cost to doing business. Considering your attitude, you MUST work for someone associated with them OR you're using their products to grow crops. No one get's that defensive unless something is up.

I'd like to see Monsanto held responsible for contaminating the crops of other farmers - not the other way around.

I just don't like any sort of monopoly and if you read about their practices and how it's affected poor farmers around the world you'd probably dislike them too.

Monica

PaleoPath4Lyfe

It is easy for you to regurigate information that the media spouts. However, studies show that OVERUSE and ABUSE are what makes tanning beds dangerous and makes people more prone to developing skin cancer as is the same with sun exposure..........it is the OVEREXPOSURE that causes the damage.

A few minutes a couple times a week is not enough to cause any damage, especially when it is only for the winter months. I am NOT an avid tanner and looking at me I have no tan.

There are some studies being conducted regarding this and this treatment is far more effective than taking some anti-depressant.

So studies showing that small doses of your vice are completely true and accurate...but studies showing that GMO's are safe are the debil?

It is not my vice, it is a medical treatment for low vitamin D which causes Seasonal Depression.

There are no true studies that aren't biased that says GMO's are safe.

monicalosesweight

Here are a variety of articles on everything from business practices by Monsanto and also how their crops may be impacting bee and butterfly populations. You can decide what you want but I don't like their practices and will be avoiding their products.

Monica

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1082559/The-GM-genocide-Thousands-Indian-farmers-committing-suicide-using-genetically-modified-crops.html

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/11795-5-million-farmers-sue-monsanto-for-77-billion

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/monsanto-tries-to-criminalize-saving-seeds-drags-farmer-into-court-other-gmo-news/

http://www.percyschmeiser.com/

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805

http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/argentina101104.cfm

http://naturalsociety.com/monsantos-roundup-shown-to-be-ravaging-butterfly-population/

http://inhabitat.com/new-study-pinpoints-monsanto’s-gm-crops-as-the-reason-butterfly-populations-are-in-decline/

http://terrimeredith.hubpages.com/hub/The-Bayer-Monsanto-Bee-Killing-Team

http://www.occupymonsanto360.org/2012/03/25/occupy-monsanto-poland-dumps-thousands-of-dead-bees-in-protest/

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/05/08/what-biotech-company-blamed-for-bee-collapse-just-bought-leading-bee-research-firm.aspx

http://www.classwarfareexists.com/beekeeper-researches-monsantos-effects-on-bees-state-destroys-research/

acogg

There are no true studies that aren't biased that says GMO's are safe.

= Any and all evidence that disagrees with my bias cannot be true. It's a safe way to never be wrong about anything.

PayneAS

I mean potentially, uncontrolled, this could a.) destroy corn products as you could never be assured that the corn you were getting wasn't potentially contaminated with now naturally produced toxins,

Woohoo! No more High Fructose Corn Syrup!!!

slkehl

There are no true studies that aren't biased that says GMO's are safe.

= Any and all evidence that disagrees with my bias cannot be true. It's a safe way to never be wrong about anything.

Exactly. You can point out flaws in ANY study and accuse ANY researcher of being biased. Do they get their money from the government? "The gov't wants to make us unhealthy because they're in cahoots with big food and pharma." Do they get their money from private businesses? "They only publish results that favor the firm." Funded privately by an individual? Well, I'm sure they have an agenda too...

To do studies, you need money. And I'm sure you can come up with biases from ANYONE who has money to donate. Does that mean we should throw out all scientific research?

ArroganceInStep

Here are a variety of articles on everything from business practices by Monsanto and also how their crops may be impacting bee and butterfly populations. You can decide what you want but I don't like their practices and will be avoiding their products.

Monica

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1082559/The-GM-genocide-Thousands-Indian-farmers-committing-suicide-using-genetically-modified-crops.html

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/11795-5-million-farmers-sue-monsanto-for-77-billion

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/monsanto-tries-to-criminalize-saving-seeds-drags-farmer-into-court-other-gmo-news/

http://www.percyschmeiser.com/

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805

http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/argentina101104.cfm

http://naturalsociety.com/monsantos-roundup-shown-to-be-ravaging-butterfly-population/

http://inhabitat.com/new-study-pinpoints-monsanto’s-gm-crops-as-the-reason-butterfly-populations-are-in-decline/

http://terrimeredith.hubpages.com/hub/The-Bayer-Monsanto-Bee-Killing-Team

http://www.occupymonsanto360.org/2012/03/25/occupy-monsanto-poland-dumps-thousands-of-dead-bees-in-protest/

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/05/08/what-biotech-company-blamed-for-bee-collapse-just-bought-leading-bee-research-firm.aspx

http://www.classwarfareexists.com/beekeeper-researches-monsantos-effects-on-bees-state-destroys-research/

I'm not going to read through all of those articles as it's sunday and I'd rather be doing more important things (like video games!), my intention was not to say that Monsanto was a beacon of corporate awesomeness and had done nothing wrong, it was rather to call into question the sensationalism of calling that particular incident a bailout and to point out just how horribly flawed the French study really was. It shows that there are potentially issues on both sides of the fence.

It is not my vice, it is a medical treatment for low vitamin D which causes Seasonal Depression.

There are no true studies that aren't biased that says GMO's are safe.

Lol. I'm right because I have proof. Your proof on the other hand is biased and therefore incorrect.

monicalosesweight

I'm not going to read through all of those articles as it's sunday and I'd rather be doing more important things (like video games!), my intention was not to say that Monsanto was a beacon of corporate awesomeness and had done nothing wrong, it was rather to call into question the sensationalism of calling that particular incident a bailout and to point out just how horribly flawed the French study really was. It shows that there are potentially issues on both sides of the fence.

bail·out
/ˈbālˌout/
Noun
An act of giving financial assistance to a failing business or economy to save it from collapse.

I'd say if they get free money - it's a bailout. That's the definition of bailout. It's not a minor amount of cash.

As for an incident, it's multiple incidents and multiple countries. This company is being paid for their product because the economic changes occurred which caused them to lose money. If they get free money to keep them 'stable' then they must have some serious connections to the World Bank. Unfortunately, I've read some other articles which now indicate the World Bank is definitely connected to our economy so yes - they are using our money to save their butts.

Monica

ArroganceInStep

bail·out
/ˈbālˌout/
Noun
An act of giving financial assistance to a failing business or economy to save it from collapse.

I'd say if they get free money - it's a bailout. That's the definition of bailout. It's not a minor amount of cash.

As for an incident, it's multiple incidents and multiple countries. This company is being paid for their product because the economic changes occurred which caused them to lose money. If they get free money to keep them 'stable' then they must have some serious connections to the World Bank. Unfortunately, I've read some other articles which now indicate the World Bank is definitely connected to our economy so yes - they are using our money to save their butts.

Monica

I can play that game too.

free
/frē/

Adverb
Without cost or payment: "ladies were admitted free"

The governments are covering the cost of the contracts signed by farmers that do not have the money to meet their commitments. Those farmers are still getting the seed and what not that they committed to purchasing. That's not 'free' money, Monsanto is just getting the money from a different source. If anything it's the farmers being bailed out.

monicalosesweight

Either way, it's "free" and it's still a "bailout" so the company is getting money from sources that end up having to prop it up. That's not exactly good business practices. Personally, I'm ok with a company failing if they make mistakes. They shouldn't have been in business in the first place.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Here are a variety of articles on everything from business practices by Monsanto and also how their crops may be impacting bee and butterfly populations. You can decide what you want but I don't like their practices and will be avoiding their products.

Monica

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1082559/The-GM-genocide-Thousands-Indian-farmers-committing-suicide-using-genetically-modified-crops.html

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/11795-5-million-farmers-sue-monsanto-for-77-billion

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/monsanto-tries-to-criminalize-saving-seeds-drags-farmer-into-court-other-gmo-news/

http://www.percyschmeiser.com/

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805

http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/argentina101104.cfm

http://naturalsociety.com/monsantos-roundup-shown-to-be-ravaging-butterfly-population/

http://inhabitat.com/new-study-pinpoints-monsanto’s-gm-crops-as-the-reason-butterfly-populations-are-in-decline/

http://terrimeredith.hubpages.com/hub/The-Bayer-Monsanto-Bee-Killing-Team

http://www.occupymonsanto360.org/2012/03/25/occupy-monsanto-poland-dumps-thousands-of-dead-bees-in-protest/

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/05/08/what-biotech-company-blamed-for-bee-collapse-just-bought-leading-bee-research-firm.aspx

http://www.classwarfareexists.com/beekeeper-researches-monsantos-effects-on-bees-state-destroys-research/

I'm not going to read through all of those articles as it's sunday and I'd rather be doing more important things (like video games!), my intention was not to say that Monsanto was a beacon of corporate awesomeness and had done nothing wrong, it was rather to call into question the sensationalism of calling that particular incident a bailout and to point out just how horribly flawed the French study really was. It shows that there are potentially issues on both sides of the fence.

It is not my vice, it is a medical treatment for low vitamin D which causes Seasonal Depression.

There are no true studies that aren't biased that says GMO's are safe.

Lol. I'm right because I have proof. Your proof on the other hand is biased and therefore incorrect.

I am not going to argue with you. I refuse to stoop down to your level. I will do what my Dr deems best for ME.

ArroganceInStep

Either way, it's "free" and it's still a "bailout" so the company is getting money from sources that end up having to prop it up. That's not exactly good business practices. Personally, I'm ok with a company failing if they make mistakes. They shouldn't have been in business in the first place.

But that's exactly my point. It's not Monsanto that is the failing company, it's the farmers receiving government aid in order to fulfill their contracts. The alternative? Monsanto takes the farmers to court and sues them for breach of contract; potentially bankrupting them. It's not a bailout of Monsanto, it's a bailout for the farmers.

ArroganceInStep

I am not going to argue with you. I refuse to stoop down to your level. I will do what my Dr deems best for ME.

But your doctor's biased too!

You're missing my point. I don't care if you tan or not. Claiming that ALL studies that oppose your view are biased is a cop out.