Dads- if you're son wants a baby doll....?
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He has an older brother, who at daycare was the love of all the little girls, and often had to be the dad and play house. They have no sisters, all the toys we have are cars and trucks, etc. They have a work bench, and "tools" and every BOY toy you could imagine- remember I have 4 - yes, 4 brothers, and guess what?! They all have a baby girl first, and THEN if they had another child it was a boy- so uncles, and Papa (Grampa), Daddy, and myself have supplied all the "boy" type toys you can imagine.
Right now, he's "adopted" a snowman with a knit hat and "ice skates" glued to it's feet as the baby- I just don't think it's a big deal. My youngest brother had a Cabbage Patch doll named Michael when we were little kids- and he's one of the manliest men I know- hunter, lives in Montana, goes camping, and works as a foreman on a big estate property doing all the caretaking- he's all beardy and "tough," and one awesome Dad to one VERY princess-like little girl that's 5, and makes him play tea party, and has painted his nails, but she ADORES her dad. He has no sons, and loves sending stuff to my boys. I just don't think it's a big deal, but looking for a way to convince hubs that it's fine.0 -
I think there is way too much reading between the lines here...
No one one said a boy playing with dolls makes him gay.
the OP asked for an opinion. She got it.. Respect others opinions lol sheesh people lol
Did you read the comments? People did say that.0 -
Boys grow up to be dads, right? So what is wrong with them playing with dolls.
Pink and blue are just colors, why is it okay for a girl to like blue but if a boy likes pink he's labeled feminine? And sometimes even confused?
Let the kid play with what he or she likes to play with, as long as it isn't harmful to themselves or others. Those things DO NOT make an individual gay or straight. Come on people.
I never said it makes you gay. lol However, I am a firm believer in, how you are raised is a big part of what shapes you info what you become.
It wasn't just towards you. I do believe in nature AND nurture, but I also firmly believe being gay or straight isn't something you "grow into". You either are or you aren't., some people have a harder time determining if they are if they aren't, but that doesn't mean it was because of how they were raised. Just like you can't make a gay person straight, you can't make a straight person gay. It doesn't work that way.
I love how you put that. Awesome! Examples would be, of course, straight parents who raise kids (even based on standards of what society feels boys and girls should play with), who are gay. And gay parents who raise kids who turn out straight. What your kids play with isn't going to predetermine their sexuality. -.-0 -
Give the little lad a dall! I would be more shocked that they still made cabbage patch dolls than seeing a boy nurturing a doll. Besides what are action figures?0
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I think there is way too much reading between the lines here...
No one one said a boy playing with dolls makes him gay.
the OP asked for an opinion. She got it.. Respect others opinions lol sheesh people lol
Did you read the comments? People did say that.
No they didn't. I merely claimed to have read some studies showing a link. Not a cause. You can't read yet you are an expert in the scientific process. mmmhmm0 -
ALSO, if my future son comes to me and says he's gay (which won't be because he played with dolls, btw), I will not give a *kitten*.0
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My son does not specifically have his own baby doll but plays with his sister's dolls every now and then. He will also sit down and have a tea party with her and then demolish the table they were playing on with his construction set. He runs around in my heels with his tool belt banging on walls. He is 4, kids are exploring and learning at this age. Oh and my husband does not have issues with any of this.0
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I'm a mom, not a dad, but...
Playing daddy is an important and normal part of growing up.0 -
Heck, I'm not a dad, but a mom, and we only have 1 child a boy., and he's 4.
He loves babies. And he wants a baby.
Keeps telling us that when he's older he's going to have a baby.
And will tell random strangers that "We're going to the baby store to buy me a baby"
Now that I think about it.....maybe I should get him a baby doll.....0 -
Heck, I'm not a dad, but a mom, and we only have 1 child a boy., and he's 4.
He loves babies. And he wants a baby.
Keeps telling us that when he's older he's going to have a baby.
And will tell random strangers that "We're going to the baby store to buy me a baby"
Now that I think about it.....maybe I should get him a baby doll.....
Awww, that's cute
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Pretty sure I've read a few studies linking little boys and dolls to homosexuality. Can't remember if it either was an indicator of them already having gay tendencies or if it actually played a part in their sexual development.
Either way, hell no. (Not a dad yet...but my son won't be playing with any dolls that I bought)
Wrong. There is no such study and if there is, it is not a peer reviewed scientific study.
Well, I've read the studies. Their legitimacy of course is unknown to me. But I think I'll trust what I did read along with my own intuition over your baseless denial.
It's not a baseless denial. I am educated in science and the scientific method. My husband has a PhD in science. I spend most of my time with scientists. And I also worked with babies and studied child development from a scientific bases as well. You are the one baselessly believing "whatever you read".
Ahh so because your husband has a Phd in "science" (a large field...lol) and you work with scientists... you now know the existence and legitimacy of every scientific study. Yeah got it.
I've studied childhood development and all the studies show a positive effect of boys playing with dolls and there are no scientific studies supporting a link as you claimed. You clearly do not know much about the current state of the scientific field, or even what it takes to be a scientist to respond as you have. I'm not going to try and explain it to you. I also know that based on this, you do not have the access to scientific, peer reviewed studies which are made available to scientists or cost thousands of dollars to access.0 -
Pretty sure I've read a few studies linking little boys and dolls to homosexuality. Can't remember if it either was an indicator of them already having gay tendencies or if it actually played a part in their sexual development.
Either way, hell no. (Not a dad yet...but my son won't be playing with any dolls that I bought)
Wrong. There is no such study and if there is, it is not a peer reviewed scientific study.
Well, I've read the studies. Their legitimacy of course is unknown to me. But I think I'll trust what I did read along with my own intuition over your baseless denial.
And there dozens of extremely well reviewed studies proving doll use and toy use has substantial effects on child development, future parenting, etc. To think it doesn't affect sexuality is absurd.
So then how would you explain the little boys who played with Tonka Trucks and nothing but "boy" toys and grew up to be homosexual anyway?0 -
If a boy wants a doll, let him have a doll. If you don't make it seem like it's a bad thing, he'll never see it as bad and he'll grow out of it as he gets older or he'll grow mature about it, be secure in himself as a person and probably make a really great dad one day.0
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Pretty sure I've read a few studies linking little boys and dolls to homosexuality. Can't remember if it either was an indicator of them already having gay tendencies or if it actually played a part in their sexual development.
Either way, hell no. (Not a dad yet...but my son won't be playing with any dolls that I bought)
Wrong. There is no such study and if there is, it is not a peer reviewed scientific study.
Well, I've read the studies. Their legitimacy of course is unknown to me. But I think I'll trust what I did read along with my own intuition over your baseless denial.
And there dozens of extremely well reviewed studies proving doll use and toy use has substantial effects on child development, future parenting, etc. To think it doesn't affect sexuality is absurd.
So then how would you explain the little boys who played with Tonka Trucks and nothing but "boy" toys and grew up to be homosexual anyway?
and I'm sure playing with all those manly, half naked, muscle clad action figures is doing wonders for his heterosexuality.0 -
I would flip it around to him, ask him what about if he had a daughter - would she be allowed to do "boy things". Would he give his daughter a truck to play with? Would he stop her from wanting to be a super hero?0
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Good grief.. My son played with dolls for most of his childhood and youth. He liked them and liked to play "Daddy". He also loves stuffed animals to this day. He's 18 now .. and is off to college to ultimately become a Wild Animal Vet. He's quite happy with his manhood and is very much into women .. He enjoyed Baby Jesus as much as being the caring "Big Brother" since he never got to be one in real life. It made him feel important and responsible..
There is absolutely nothing gender specific about dolls/babies .. I was a Tomboy growing up. I played with boys, I played with trucks, construction sets, legos, baseballs, footballs, etc.. I joined the U.S. Marine Corps .. and it never turned me into a lesbian.0 -
Pretty sure I've read a few studies linking little boys and dolls to homosexuality. Can't remember if it either was an indicator of them already having gay tendencies or if it actually played a part in their sexual development.
Either way, hell no. (Not a dad yet...but my son won't be playing with any dolls that I bought)
Wrong. There is no such study and if there is, it is not a peer reviewed scientific study.
Well, I've read the studies. Their legitimacy of course is unknown to me. But I think I'll trust what I did read along with my own intuition over your baseless denial.
And there dozens of extremely well reviewed studies proving doll use and toy use has substantial effects on child development, future parenting, etc. To think it doesn't affect sexuality is absurd.
So then how would you explain the little boys who played with Tonka Trucks and nothing but "boy" toys and grew up to be homosexual anyway?
umm really? This might be the dumbest thing I've read on this forum.0 -
I think there is way too much reading between the lines here...
No one one said a boy playing with dolls makes him gay.
the OP asked for an opinion. She got it.. Respect others opinions lol sheesh people lol
You're absolutely right. I don't agree with your opinion on the topic. But the OP was soliciting opinions, and you shared yours. You're entitled to it even if it doens't agree with mine! LOL0 -
My son loves dolls more than my daughter. It makes sense. He grew up with a baby sister at 2 years old whereas she hasn't ever really been around babies.
My son also has had painted nails.
Painted nails, pink, and dolls don't make a kid gay. My husband hasn't batted an eye at any of it.0 -
This just in: GI Joe "action figures" are dolls. I guess if the doll is holding a gun it makes it okay?
He wants a doll, let him play with a doll. It's not a big deal.0 -
I would flip it around to him, ask him what about if he had a daughter - would she be allowed to do "boy things". Would he give his daughter a truck to play with? Would he stop her from wanting to be a super hero?
thanks- I might try this approach. I'm pretty sure this was more about hubs following how he was raised with his dad, and not about our son - but think this is a great approach- since there's only my sister and myself, and I took Welding in High School - my dad supported all the "guy" stuff I wanted to do- and I just liked being in the shop with my dad and brothers- so I have the nicest Socket set of all of them - since Dad said I took better care of the tools......that socket set is in my garage now, with hub's prized Camaro.0 -
I agree!I think your son is also more secure in his masculinity than MaxBiker.0 -
PUT HIM WITH A BUNCH OF NORMAL KIDS A LITTLE OLDER THAN HE AND THEY WILL STRAIGTHEN HIM OUT REAL QUICK.0
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Pretty sure I've read a few studies linking little boys and dolls to homosexuality. Can't remember if it either was an indicator of them already having gay tendencies or if it actually played a part in their sexual development.
Either way, hell no. (Not a dad yet...but my son won't be playing with any dolls that I bought)
Wrong. There is no such study and if there is, it is not a peer reviewed scientific study.
Well, I've read the studies. Their legitimacy of course is unknown to me. But I think I'll trust what I did read along with my own intuition over your baseless denial.
It's not a baseless denial. I am educated in science and the scientific method. My husband has a PhD in science. I spend most of my time with scientists. And I also worked with babies and studied child development from a scientific bases as well. You are the one baselessly believing "whatever you read".
Ahh so because your husband has a Phd in "science" (a large field...lol) and you work with scientists... you now know the existence and legitimacy of every scientific study. Yeah got it.
I've studied childhood development and all the studies show a positive effect of boys playing with dolls and there are no scientific studies supporting a link as you claimed. You clearly do not know much about the current state of the scientific field, or even what it takes to be a scientist to respond as you have. I'm not going to try and explain it to you. I also know that based on this, you do not have the access to scientific, peer reviewed studies which are made available to scientists or cost thousands of dollars to access.
Actually I do have access, via university and corporate accounts. Nice try though. In fact, I am pretty sure I have just as much insight into the current state of science as you do.0 -
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This is my son - he's not even 2 years old yet. thanks for all the comments and suggestions. 0 -
Pretty sure I've read a few studies linking little boys and dolls to homosexuality. Can't remember if it either was an indicator of them already having gay tendencies or if it actually played a part in their sexual development.
Either way, hell no. (Not a dad yet...but my son won't be playing with any dolls that I bought)
Wrong. There is no such study and if there is, it is not a peer reviewed scientific study.
Well, I've read the studies. Their legitimacy of course is unknown to me. But I think I'll trust what I did read along with my own intuition over your baseless denial.
It's not a baseless denial. I am educated in science and the scientific method. My husband has a PhD in science. I spend most of my time with scientists. And I also worked with babies and studied child development from a scientific bases as well. You are the one baselessly believing "whatever you read".
Ahh so because your husband has a Phd in "science" (a large field...lol) and you work with scientists... you now know the existence and legitimacy of every scientific study. Yeah got it.
I've studied childhood development and all the studies show a positive effect of boys playing with dolls and there are no scientific studies supporting a link as you claimed. You clearly do not know much about the current state of the scientific field, or even what it takes to be a scientist to respond as you have. I'm not going to try and explain it to you. I also know that based on this, you do not have the access to scientific, peer reviewed studies which are made available to scientists or cost thousands of dollars to access.
Actually I do have access, via university and corporate accounts. Nice try though. In fact, I am pretty sure I have just as much insight into the current state of science as you do.
I'm pretty sure you don't.0 -
To the "men are men" trolls on this thread: It's almost 2013. Boys can play with dolls, too. It's a normal behavior and shows nurturing qualities. Girls can play with erector sets and toy cars. Please, I beg of you, evolve already.
To the OP: Be proud of your son who is showing nurturing, caring qualities. He sounds like a great kid. I'm sure your husband understands that and is just a bit initially apprehensive. It's not him, it's the long-running societal standards that affect our thinking sometimes. 0 -
Pretty sure I've read a few studies linking little boys and dolls to homosexuality. Can't remember if it either was an indicator of them already having gay tendencies or if it actually played a part in their sexual development.
Either way, hell no. (Not a dad yet...but my son won't be playing with any dolls that I bought)
Wrong. There is no such study and if there is, it is not a peer reviewed scientific study.
Well, I've read the studies. Their legitimacy of course is unknown to me. But I think I'll trust what I did read along with my own intuition over your baseless denial.
It's not a baseless denial. I am educated in science and the scientific method. My husband has a PhD in science. I spend most of my time with scientists. And I also worked with babies and studied child development from a scientific bases as well. You are the one baselessly believing "whatever you read".
Ahh so because your husband has a Phd in "science" (a large field...lol) and you work with scientists... you now know the existence and legitimacy of every scientific study. Yeah got it.
I've studied childhood development and all the studies show a positive effect of boys playing with dolls and there are no scientific studies supporting a link as you claimed. You clearly do not know much about the current state of the scientific field, or even what it takes to be a scientist to respond as you have. I'm not going to try and explain it to you. I also know that based on this, you do not have the access to scientific, peer reviewed studies which are made available to scientists or cost thousands of dollars to access.
Actually I do have access, via university and corporate accounts. Nice try though. In fact, I am pretty sure I have just as much insight into the current state of science as you do.
Broscience doesn't count, just to be clear.0 -
I STILL PLAY WITH DOLLS NOW AND THEN, BUT THESE ARE REAL!.... COME HERE SUGAR....LET ME BE YOUR DADDY...0
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I'm pretty sure you don't.
Seriously though, why be so argumentative ? How do u know what he does or doesnt have access to !
Dude, she has a minor in biology, She knows things0
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