is it my fault she died?
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This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
I agree with this.0 -
No it's not your fault. She had to be in poor health to begin with.0
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yes
What a nasty reply, no it wasn't her fault, you are a very cruel person.....0 -
This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....0 -
This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
You know, if you have a problem with offering a total stranger a little comfort and peace of mind, then you didn't have to comment.0 -
If someone has an affair people always seem to blame the other partner for "causing" the other person to have an affair. Yet my opinion is that people are responsible for their OWN actions, not other people's actions. We do realize that our actions can contribute to what another does in their life, however, and we should take responsibility for it.
In the OP's post she definitely feels like the argument at least contributed to the heart attack. Sure, she didn't cause the room mate to have whatever the health condition was that led to the heart attack, but the argument didn't help the situation. Here's the rub; she didn't intentionally go out and, say - scare the room mate or create a stressful situation with the intention that the room mate would die, but sometimes we do contribute to events.
The OP didn't kill her room mate, but she does need to find forgiveness for whatever contribution she did make to the situation. Whether it was an unwillingness to let an argument go, or put up with whatever they were fighting about, there is some personal growth that can happen here.
Dear OP ~ this is an opportunity to learn and get better in life. You have a chance to become a better person through this. True forgiveness is only found through a personal relationship with Jesus, and once you have that you will be able to overcome the guilt that Satan will try to hound you with. Don't let the enemy win; I believe everything happens for a reason. Hopefully you have someone in your life who you trust to talk with who can help you to work through the pain you must be in.
Please be in peace about this.
I really dislike how people assume everyone's religion is the same -.-
I know you meant well, but maybe you should think about that before you post something religious like this.0 -
Yup, it's all your fault.0
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This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....
Yeah....no psychologist takes off without having a backup for their patients. That's really messed up if this is just a troll....really messed up.0 -
No, it was her time to go!!! Stop stressing yourself!!!0
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This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....
No you and I are the trolls apparently....well more me than you.0 -
This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....
Except they didn't know I was in hospital until they were already out of the country?
There is the lifeline etc I can call, but they don't usually help.
Headspace is closed atm, if you don't believe me.. google it.0 -
This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
You know, if you have a problem with offering a total stranger a little comfort and peace of mind, then you didn't have to comment.
Again, if she's feeling that way, she needs professional help. But then, i don't believe her. Check her food diary, she posted on a regular basis while in the hospital after a suicide attempt?0 -
Fine line between compassion and narcissism. Unfortunate coincidence.0
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This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....
Yeah....no psychologist takes off without having a backup for their patients. That's really messed up if this is just a troll....really messed up.
Well, mine did....
The whole centre is shut until after new years?
I'm not a troll..
http://www.headspace.org.au/headspace-centres/headspace-act
"headspace ACT is closed from 21st of December until January 2nd 2013."0 -
The OP is in severe emotional pain. She can't bring her friend back to life and she is NOT responsible for anything that happened. What is wrong with you? You, dear, are a truly horrible human being.While she may not have caused a heart condition the argument could have triggered the event. The stress, the adrenaline. Be for real. I'm a troll because I have a real opinion grow up. This is MFP you are not going to like all the responses. And to answer the original question YES...it is a possibility.
OP -- I am so sorry you're going through this. I think your guilt is a natural response, but it is not your fault. If you need to call a crisis hotline, you should do that now. I hope you aren't alone.0 -
This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
You know, if you have a problem with offering a total stranger a little comfort and peace of mind, then you didn't have to comment.
Again, if she's feeling that way, she needs professional help. But then, i don't believe her. Check her food diary, she posted on a regular basis while in the hospital after a suicide attempt?
I got out on the 20th?...0 -
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This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....
Except they didn't know I was in hospital until they were already out of the country?
There is the lifeline etc I can call, but they don't usually help.
Headspace is closed atm, if you don't believe me.. google it.
You know what, OP? Either you have the craziest life ever, or you like to make *kitten* up. . . I'm not sure which it is, right now. Regardless, the previous thread you posted lets us know that you have family. I suggest you get on the phone and talk to them. This is not the place for this type of drama. If they aren't home, call a friend. . . seriously.0 -
This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....
No you and I are the trolls apparently....well more me than you.
You don't know who you are dealing with and obviously don't care. Why haven't you 'moved along' yet like you suggested?0 -
Call the paramedics, have them take you to the ER, tell them how you are feeling and thinking. The hospital has on call psychiatrist. Been there, done that more than one time with a suicidal roommate. Not to mention, your doc has somebody tied into the practice to cover when he/she is gone. Call your doc's main number and the recording will tell you who to call. Seriously, you're on MFP asking for help with your feelings but you won't call a mental health professional?
This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....
Except they didn't know I was in hospital until they were already out of the country?
There is the lifeline etc I can call, but they don't usually help.
Headspace is closed atm, if you don't believe me.. google it.0 -
Let me ask you this-if you and I had the exact same argument, would it cause me to have a heart attack? No. Because I don't have a bad heart. You don't have that much power over me, and you didn't have that much power over her.
Life is full of stress. Pain in life is a guarantee. Everyone else has already said it. If the attack was correlated with stress, some other stressor would have caused it. (Who is to say something else didn't happen in the time between your argument and the heart attack? Maybe she got scared, maybe she got terrible news.) Life is difficult. But again, one argument cannot cause a healthy heart to have a heart attack. It just doesn't work that way. We'd all be dead of heart attacks every time someone got into an argument.
I'm sorry you lost your friend. Truly sorry. I hope you find the same assurance and peace knowing that you didn't contribute to your friend's death. Not even a little.0 -
This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....
No you and I are the trolls apparently....well more me than you.
You don't know who you are dealing with and obviously don't care. Why haven't you 'moved along' yet like you suggested?
Your are absolutely right...what was I thinking. These cyber threats are so scary...I must go start a thread now to see if I caused this chaos.0 -
Call your mom.0
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People in the hospital often have access to computers and the internet. Her posting in her diary says absolutely nothing about whether or not she was in the hospital. Whether you believe her or not, on the chance that you are wrong, can't you keep it to yourself? The impact of you being wrong and vocal are much greater than the impact of you being right and silent.0
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This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....
No you and I are the trolls apparently....well more me than you.
You don't know who you are dealing with and obviously don't care. Why haven't you 'moved along' yet like you suggested?
Your are absolutely right...what was I thinking. These cyber threats are so scary...I must go start a thread now to see if I caused this chaos.
Do you know this OP personally? How do you know she isn't hurting? What you are doing is akin to coming across someone threatening to jump and yelling 'JUMP' at her. Do some soul-searching.0 -
Maybe it was her time.0
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We, the members of MFP, have no idea what caused her to die at the time she died. If you are asking if people with coronary conditions and such can die from stress etc in their lives, yes they can, but that doesnt mean that it was your fault.
I dont know what your religious beliefs may be, but I believe that we all have a path to travel and then God calls us home.
I think it would be natural to wonder in these circumstances whether it is your fault. I would probably wonder the same thing. But basically it was her time to go and unfortunate it happened under these circumstances.0 -
Do you know this OP personally? How do you know she isn't hurting? What you are doing is akin to coming across someone threatening to jump and yelling 'JUMP' at her. Do some soul-searching.
yeah, I think that was covered in the part where some of us advised her to contact a mental health professional rather than asking unknown people on MFP for help. Nobody is saying "Jump", they're saying "call the right person for help."0 -
This is awkward considering I only got out of hospital last week from trying to OD....
if this is true and you're feeling responsible for your friend's death, you need to be on the phone with your doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, not on MFP writing about it.
my psychologist is out of the country for the next week....
yeah, that's where you lose me. Now I don't believe it anymore. Nobody's only counselor leaves the country just after a suicide attempt without arranging some other person to deal with their patients.
Move along, nothing to see here but some trolling.....
No you and I are the trolls apparently....well more me than you.
You don't know who you are dealing with and obviously don't care. Why haven't you 'moved along' yet like you suggested?
Your are absolutely right...what was I thinking. These cyber threats are so scary...I must go start a thread now to see if I caused this chaos.
You have nothing helpful to add to this discussion. Start your own thread if you like, but you have stated your opinion. You think she is a troll. You've posted enough times now that anyone who reads this thread will read your comments and form their own opinions. Great job protecting us fellow Internet users from this troll. I'm sure there are other threads where your unique services are required.0 -
Mental health facilities are permitted to close without a backup person identified, so long as there is a crisis hotline and their patients know it, which OP said there is. People who don't know anything about the way the systems work other than how they think they should work shouldn't use that as justification to needle the OP.0
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Did OP actually say she was suicidal? I didn't see her making threats or saying she was currently suicidal. She didn't say the argument was recent. Just that she was thinking about it.0
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