how overrated is/was the SEC this season?

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  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    Not as good as they have been in the last few years, but still head and shoulders above everyone else.

    Florida lost last night because they didn't show up.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    bama will win the title.....does that make you angry?

    They will have to share it with the undefeated OHIO STATE BUCKEYES!

    The Suckeyes? Gimme a break. They have not played anyone.

    Interesting...the Big 10 sent 7 teams to bowl games with 2 of the better not being eligible...who is your team. BTW, as a PSU fan I am not defending OSU for sure...

    The Big 10 sent 7 teams to bowls. Only 2 won their games.
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    Gig 'em Aggies!!! :)

    More like Gag 'em Maggots!! ;)


    BOOMER!!!

    Oh and to answer the OP, when is SEC NOT overrated?
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member
    bama will win the title.....does that make you angry?

    They will have to share it with the undefeated OHIO STATE BUCKEYES!

    The Suckeyes? Gimme a break. They have not played anyone.

    Interesting...the Big 10 sent 7 teams to bowl games with 2 of the better not being eligible...who is your team. BTW, as a PSU fan I am not defending OSU for sure...

    The Big 10 sent 7 teams to bowls. Only 2 won their games.

    Right and the Undefeated Buckeyes would have moved everyone down and Penn State would have easily been more competitive than Purdue....
  • wolverine66
    wolverine66 Posts: 3,779 Member
    Roll Tide Roll!! While I think that individual teams should get more respect than they do, as an overall conference, the SEC really is the best, consistently putting out a number of great teams year after year. I was rather disappointed in a lot of their's bowl performances, though. Other conferences have a few stars, while most of the SEC's teams are stars.

    Being a star doesn't mean they are appropriately rated. See: Lindsey Lohan, Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton etc. They get bigger breaks and better opportunities because they are "stars" and not quality talents. That's why you get an LSU/Alabama re-match last year - because people believe they are better than they are because they are in the SEC. And that's the very definition of "overrated."

    "stars" like Arkansas? Tennessee? Auburn?

    I am coming from the stand point that they can be both the best conference and overrated at the same time, mind you. (Although, personally, I don't think they were the best this particular year).
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    Ohio Schedule:
    Miami (OH) - nobody
    UCF - nobody
    California - nobody
    UAB - nobody
    Michigan St - won bowl game by 1 point against TCU
    Nebraska - lost bowl game to SEC
    Indiana - has a game standing of 4-8
    Purdue - lost bowl game to BIG12
    Penn St - has a game tanding of 8-4 and the only ranked team they beat is N'western
    Illinois - has a game standing of 2-10
    Wisconsin - lost bowl game to PAC12
    Michigan - lost bowl game to SEC

    ETA: Ohio would lose against Alabama
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member
    Ohio Schedule:
    Miami - nobody
    UCF - nobody
    California - nobody
    UAB - nobody
    Michigan St - won bowl game by 1 point against TCU
    Nebraska - lost bowl game
    Indiana - has a game standing of 4-8
    Purdue - lost bowl game
    Penn St - has a game tanding of 8-4 and the only ranked team they beat is N'western
    Illinois - has a game standing of 2-10
    Wisconsin - lost bowl game
    Michigan - lost bowl game
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    Penn State should have been 10-2 by the end of the season and we were understaffed due to sanctions. Would you say that Lousiville had a tougher schedule or Notre Dame for that matter?

    Once again, who is your team?
  • lour441
    lour441 Posts: 543 Member
    The SEC is overrated. It is impossible not to be when your top team is compared with bad NFL teams. That said, I would take the top 5 SEC teams against the top 5 teams from any other conference and be comfortable betting on winning 3 out of 5.
  • Windy_
    Windy_ Posts: 1,012 Member
    Ohio Schedule:
    Miami (OH) - nobody
    UCF - nobody
    California - nobody
    UAB - nobody
    Michigan St - won bowl game by 1 point against TCU
    Nebraska - lost bowl game to SEC
    Indiana - has a game standing of 4-8
    Purdue - lost bowl game to BIG12
    Penn St - has a game tanding of 8-4 and the only ranked team they beat is N'western
    Illinois - has a game standing of 2-10
    Wisconsin - lost bowl game to PAC12
    Michigan - lost bowl game to SEC

    ETA: Ohio would lose against Alabama

    I agree, their defense is ****. But, give it a year or two, now that they have Urban Meyer we'll see...
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    Ohio Schedule:
    Miami - nobody
    UCF - nobody
    California - nobody
    UAB - nobody
    Michigan St - won bowl game by 1 point against TCU
    Nebraska - lost bowl game
    Indiana - has a game standing of 4-8
    Purdue - lost bowl game
    Penn St - has a game tanding of 8-4 and the only ranked team they beat is N'western
    Illinois - has a game standing of 2-10
    Wisconsin - lost bowl game
    Michigan - lost bowl game

    Penn State should have been 10-2 by the end of the season and we were understaffed due to sanctions. Would you say that Lousiville had a tougher schedule or Notre Dame for that matter?

    Once again, who is your team?

    Penn State wasnt 10-2, they were 8-4.

    Notre Dame had a harder schedule than Louisville, but they technically lost games, however corrupt refs pushed them over. It doesn't change the fact that Notre Dame is now 12-0, but a stronger schedule isn't of value when you didn't earn your wins.

    Also, Urban Meyers isn't that great. He steps in when there's a good team, bumps it up, then runs before it falls apart. UF for example.
  • oregonzoo
    oregonzoo Posts: 4,251 Member
    had tOSU been able to compete, they'd be in over Bama without a doubt and that would have been with merit.


    0 loss>>> no loss.

    I have a ton of respect for the SEC as a conference. However, this season the SEC was down. And you know the flat out arrogance of some SEC teams is the reason why UF played like a bunch of b*tches and lost. No heart. They felt they deserved a better opponant.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    oh and I looked. ND had a harder schedule than Ohio.
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member
    Ohio Schedule:
    Miami - nobody
    UCF - nobody
    California - nobody
    UAB - nobody
    Michigan St - won bowl game by 1 point against TCU
    Nebraska - lost bowl game
    Indiana - has a game standing of 4-8
    Purdue - lost bowl game
    Penn St - has a game tanding of 8-4 and the only ranked team they beat is N'western
    Illinois - has a game standing of 2-10
    Wisconsin - lost bowl game
    Michigan - lost bowl game

    Penn State should have been 10-2 by the end of the season and we were understaffed due to sanctions. Would you say that Lousiville had a tougher schedule or Notre Dame for that matter?

    Once again, who is your team?

    Penn State wasnt 10-2, they were 8-4.

    Notre Dame had a harder schedule, but they technically lost games, however corrupt refs pushed them over. It doesn't change the fact that Notre Dame is now 12-0, but a stronger schedule isn't of value when you didn't earn your wins.

    Also, Urban Meyers isn't that great. He steps in when there's a good team, bumps it up, then runs before it falls apart. UF for example.

    PSU SHOULD HAVE BEEN..the first 2 games that were lost were due to new coach, new offense so they should have easily been 10 - 2 although officially they were 8-4.

    Urban Meyer is one of the best coaches/recruiters in the NCAA. It would appear you are an SEC apologist or a Ky football fan....I see nothing supporting your opinions....
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member
    had tOSU been able to compete, they'd be in over Bama without a doubt and that would have been with merit.


    0 loss>>> no loss.

    I have a ton of respect for the SEC as a conference. However, this season the SEC was down. And you know the flat out arrogance of some SEC teams is the reason why UF played like a bunch of b*tches and lost. No heart. They felt they deserved a better opponant.

    :love: :love: :love: ^^^^ just be thankful you are not friends with a million Louisville fans.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    Ohio Schedule:
    Miami - nobody
    UCF - nobody
    California - nobody
    UAB - nobody
    Michigan St - won bowl game by 1 point against TCU
    Nebraska - lost bowl game
    Indiana - has a game standing of 4-8
    Purdue - lost bowl game
    Penn St - has a game tanding of 8-4 and the only ranked team they beat is N'western
    Illinois - has a game standing of 2-10
    Wisconsin - lost bowl game
    Michigan - lost bowl game

    Penn State should have been 10-2 by the end of the season and we were understaffed due to sanctions. Would you say that Lousiville had a tougher schedule or Notre Dame for that matter?

    Once again, who is your team?

    Penn State wasnt 10-2, they were 8-4.

    Notre Dame had a harder schedule, but they technically lost games, however corrupt refs pushed them over. It doesn't change the fact that Notre Dame is now 12-0, but a stronger schedule isn't of value when you didn't earn your wins.

    Also, Urban Meyers isn't that great. He steps in when there's a good team, bumps it up, then runs before it falls apart. UF for example.

    PSU SHOULD HAVE BEEN..the first 2 games that were lost were due to new coach, new offense so they should have easily been 10 - 2 although officially they were 8-4.

    Urban Meyer is one of the best coaches/recruiters in the NCAA. It would appear you are an SEC apologist or a Ky football fan....I see nothing supporting your opinions....

    Should have been = WASN'T

    Urban Meyer is a plague. Even the ESPN hosts were mocking the **** storm he left at UF. He goes where he sees a team already ready to win. He isn't going to go to a Tennessee team and build it up. He doesn't have the ability to.
  • alsunrise
    alsunrise Posts: 386 Member
    Ohio Schedule:
    Miami - nobody
    UCF - nobody
    California - nobody
    UAB - nobody
    Michigan St - won bowl game by 1 point against TCU
    Nebraska - lost bowl game
    Indiana - has a game standing of 4-8
    Purdue - lost bowl game
    Penn St - has a game tanding of 8-4 and the only ranked team they beat is N'western
    Illinois - has a game standing of 2-10
    Wisconsin - lost bowl game
    Michigan - lost bowl game

    Penn State should have been 10-2 by the end of the season and we were understaffed due to sanctions. Would you say that Lousiville had a tougher schedule or Notre Dame for that matter?

    Once again, who is your team?

    Penn State wasnt 10-2, they were 8-4.

    Notre Dame had a harder schedule, but they technically lost games, however corrupt refs pushed them over. It doesn't change the fact that Notre Dame is now 12-0, but a stronger schedule isn't of value when you didn't earn your wins.

    Also, Urban Meyers isn't that great. He steps in when there's a good team, bumps it up, then runs before it falls apart. UF for example.

    PSU SHOULD HAVE BEEN..the first 2 games that were lost were due to new coach, new offense so they should have easily been 10 - 2 although officially they were 8-4.

    Urban Meyer is one of the best coaches/recruiters in the NCAA. It would appear you are an SEC apologist or a Ky football fan....I see nothing supporting your opinions....

    That's funny stuff right there. . .
  • ScarlettVamp
    ScarlettVamp Posts: 828 Member
    SEC football is the BEST! Diehard Carolina fan here. Go '*kitten*!
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    had tOSU been able to compete, they'd be in over Bama without a doubt and that would have been with merit.


    0 loss>>> no loss.

    I have a ton of respect for the SEC as a conference. However, this season the SEC was down. And you know the flat out arrogance of some SEC teams is the reason why UF played like a bunch of b*tches and lost. No heart. They felt they deserved a better opponant.

    The SEC is overrated this season without a doubt, but so is OSU.
  • wolverine66
    wolverine66 Posts: 3,779 Member
    had tOSU been able to compete, they'd be in over Bama without a doubt and that would have been with merit.


    0 loss>>> no loss.

    I have a ton of respect for the SEC as a conference. However, this season the SEC was down. And you know the flat out arrogance of some SEC teams is the reason why UF played like a bunch of b*tches and lost. No heart. They felt they deserved a better opponant.

    I don't know if they felt that they deserved better, but they certainly didn't respect Louisville. Louisville took a lot of hard shots at teh beginning of that game, because Florida thought they could hit them a couple times and they'd roll over. Louisville played great, and they left 6 points on the field. The game wasn't as close as the score would indicate.

    However, every year there is a debate over "does and undefeated X team get in over a 1 loss SEC team" and while Ohio State probably would have gone based on name recognition, there have been times when an undefeated team (I'm looking at you, Boise St.) gets downgraded because of conference. So, I'd like to think 0 > one loss, it's not always the case.
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member
    had tOSU been able to compete, they'd be in over Bama without a doubt and that would have been with merit.


    0 loss>>> no loss.

    I have a ton of respect for the SEC as a conference. However, this season the SEC was down. And you know the flat out arrogance of some SEC teams is the reason why UF played like a bunch of b*tches and lost. No heart. They felt they deserved a better opponant.

    It was said that the Florida was upset that they were not playing for a national championship. This was the biggest game in U of L's history and it was a consolation game for Florida. Florida did their fans an injustice by not showing up.

    I don't know if they felt that they deserved better, but they certainly didn't respect Louisville. Louisville took a lot of hard shots at teh beginning of that game, because Florida thought they could hit them a couple times and they'd roll over. Louisville played great, and they left 6 points on the field. The game wasn't as close as the score would indicate.

    However, every year there is a debate over "does and undefeated X team get in over a 1 loss SEC team" and while Ohio State probably would have gone based on name recognition, there have been times when an undefeated team (I'm looking at you, Boise St.) gets downgraded because of conference. So, I'd like to think 0 > one loss, it's not always the case.
    It was said that the Florida was upset that they were not playing for a national championship. This was the biggest game in U of L's history and it was a consolation game for Florida. Florida did their fans an injustice by not showing up.
  • AggieCass09
    AggieCass09 Posts: 1,867 Member
    Gig 'em Aggies!!! :)

    ^ this!
  • wareagle8706
    wareagle8706 Posts: 1,090 Member
    bama will win the title.....does that make you angry?

    They will have to share it with the undefeated OHIO STATE BUCKEYES!

    Dat's funny right there...I don't care who you are.

    Funny, but true! They aren't banned from winning/sharing the title. If...when...Notre dame loses they will be the only undefeated team.

    they can only win the AP title, and - i hate to break it to you - that's not going to happen.

    being undefeated means little. Ask Auburn from 2004.

    Exactly. But... btw... SEC is not overrated. We are by far the best conference in the nation. year after year. Hands down. How many SEC teams have won the national title consecutively now??
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member
    Mr Sane... Who is your team?
  • kdeaux1959
    kdeaux1959 Posts: 2,675 Member
    SEC is typically strong but this year was an off year. As one of my FB friends said this is a great case in point for trashing the bowl system and establishing a true College play off system... Of course $$$$$$$$$ will keep that from happening for quite a while.

    I think some of the teams this year let the hype about SEC dominance get in their head... Florida last night was a great case in point. They let a virtually unranked Louisville team dominate them from the first play of the game.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    bama will win the title.....does that make you angry?

    They will have to share it with the undefeated OHIO STATE BUCKEYES!

    Dat's funny right there...I don't care who you are.

    Funny, but true! They aren't banned from winning/sharing the title. If...when...Notre dame loses they will be the only undefeated team.

    they can only win the AP title, and - i hate to break it to you - that's not going to happen.

    being undefeated means little. Ask Auburn from 2004.

    Exactly. But... btw... SEC is not overrated. We are by far the best conference in the nation. year after year. Hands down. How many SEC teams have won the national title consecutively now??

    Lets be honest. The SEC is good and they had their run, but in the next 2 years I see other conferences rising up.
  • trojanbb
    trojanbb Posts: 1,297 Member
    Roll Tide Roll!! While I think that individual teams should get more respect than they do, as an overall conference, the SEC really is the best, consistently putting out a number of great teams year after year. I was rather disappointed in a lot of their's bowl performances, though. Other conferences have a few stars, while most of the SEC's teams are stars.

    Alabama just has to win the National Title. Not just because I'm a huge Bama fan, but for the same reason others have stated here: I just wouldn't be able to stomach the 10 years of ND worship that would ensue if they won. They were lucky a lot more often than they were good this year.

    Most of the SEC's teams are stars??

    lmao, really? A few outstanding teams, the rest are mediocre at best.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    Mr Sane... Who is your team?

    pick one for me.

    How about them FAU Owls
  • Windy_
    Windy_ Posts: 1,012 Member
    bama will win the title.....does that make you angry?

    They will have to share it with the undefeated OHIO STATE BUCKEYES!

    Dat's funny right there...I don't care who you are.

    Funny, but true! They aren't banned from winning/sharing the title. If...when...Notre dame loses they will be the only undefeated team.

    they can only win the AP title, and - i hate to break it to you - that's not going to happen.

    being undefeated means little. Ask Auburn from 2004.

    Exactly. But... btw... SEC is not overrated. We are by far the best conference in the nation. year after year. Hands down. How many SEC teams have won the national title consecutively now??

    Maybe they've been the best conference the last 10 years. And they are no longer *by far* the best conference.
  • Windy_
    Windy_ Posts: 1,012 Member
    Mr Sane... Who is your team?

    pick one for me.

    How about them FAU Owls

    how bout the East Carolina Pirates?
  • wareagle8706
    wareagle8706 Posts: 1,090 Member
    Being a star doesn't mean they are appropriately rated. See: Lindsey Lohan, Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton etc. They get bigger breaks and better opportunities because they are "stars" and not quality talents. That's why you get an LSU/Alabama re-match last year - because people believe they are better than they are because they are in the SEC. And that's the very definition of "overrated."

    "stars" like Arkansas? Tennessee? Auburn?

    You didn't really just compare athletes with TALENT to reality TV stars/heiresses, did you? give me a break...