Obesity and Welfare

concordancia

Most lower income neighborhoods in the US do not have fruits and veggies available. I live in a lower middle income neighborhood and the local supermarket has a limited selection, at higher prices than the same chain a few miles down the road. There is no butcher, just some prepacked meats, and no deli. We spend the extra money on gas to go where there are better choices, but many of our neighbors are seniors who walk or ride their scooters. Even among the young families, many would have to take the bus to get to the other stores, which makes it hard to get a full week's worth of groceries for a family. I honestly have no idea why the ones with cars still use that store.

Drug testing has proven to be a waste of money in Florida.

WendyTerry420

i think that they should only be able to purchase healthy foods like milk, eggs, potatoes, veggies, fruits, breads, beans, meat and stuff of that nature (no pop, candy, or compleate junk foods) i also think they should be tested for drugs and have to do UAs to show they arnt on any drugs (if your on welfare and doing drugs why are u spending what money you do have on drugs instead of food)

I like the way you think.

They have done that in some states and found that the cost of testing is a waste of money. Come to find out, hardly anyone on food stamps is a habitual drug user. And it costs more money to do the testing than what they could possibly save.

bkw2488

I believe there should be a restriction on what food is allowed to be purchased with food stamps. The WIC programs tells you exactly what you are allowed to have. Plus they also hand out forms on Healthy eating choices when a person picks up their checks.

bakenatj

Welfare should be a bag of rice and a bag of beans. If you can't get a job why should you eat high on the hog???

WendyTerry420

i think that they should only be able to purchase healthy foods like milk, eggs, potatoes, veggies, fruits, breads, beans, meat and stuff of that nature (no pop, candy, or compleate junk foods) i also think they should be tested for drugs and have to do UAs to show they arnt on any drugs (if your on welfare and doing drugs why are u spending what money you do have on drugs instead of food)

I like the way you think.

thanks im saying it would be a good idea. not saying it is an actual reality tho.

but it also ties in to if your on welfare because of your kids and your doing drugs not only should you not get food stamps ect, but also you should have your children removed from you...not saying i want a bunch of families ruined but if your doing drugs and have little ones there should be consequences for that.(including not being given government assistance)

More and more states are drug testing

In michigan, you cannot buy supplements (vitamins, protein powder) using the MI Bridge card or alcohol etc....however you can buy pop. Pop is really the only thing I can think of that should also be eliminated

Actually a lot of them have given up on the idea after realizing that it isn't cost effective.

hearthemelody

It would be hard to regulate what they buy with their food stamps, but I think think government could do a better job at regulating WHERE they use their food stamps. I don't think that a person should be able to use their food stamps at a gas station.

And if you don't have a car, and the closest place to buy a gallon of milk is a gas station?

whitneyps7

i think that they should only be able to purchase healthy foods like milk, eggs, potatoes, veggies, fruits, breads, beans, meat and stuff of that nature (no pop, candy, or compleate junk foods) i also think they should be tested for drugs and have to do UAs to show they arnt on any drugs (if your on welfare and doing drugs why are u spending what money you do have on drugs instead of food)

The drug tests would be for those who receive cash, not food benefits. Drug testing in the few places that do it have actually cost the state more money because less than 2% tested positive and most of those who were positive were positive for marijuana. Its OK to drug test cash reciepiants based on what? Profiling? Let's drug test every politician and any politician who runs for office. I can guess they'd be much higher than 2% and not for pot.

Also, if the state is going to FORCE people getting food stamps to eat healthy it will raise the cost per family because its far cheaper to each frozen, boxed processed foods than it is to eat healthy.

I personally feel asking anyone to pee in a cup just "in case" is a violation of their 4th amendment. I don't do any drugs nor do I collect welfare, but I'm all for civil rights.

ok i get your point, your right. eating healthy is more expensive than i thought i guess and ya drug testing is pretty expensive as well i guess i didnt think about that part

Simone_King

I don't thnk the goverement should be in anyone's peronal health choices period.

As to the Wic I can't say. I don't use them.

sarah_ep

i think that they should only be able to purchase healthy foods like milk, eggs, potatoes, veggies, fruits, breads, beans, meat and stuff of that nature (no pop, candy, or compleate junk foods) i also think they should be tested for drugs and have to do UAs to show they arnt on any drugs (if your on welfare and doing drugs why are u spending what money you do have on drugs instead of food)

The drug tests would be for those who receive cash, not food benefits. Drug testing in the few places that do it have actually cost the state more money because less than 2% tested positive and most of those who were positive were positive for marijuana. Its OK to drug test cash reciepiants based on what? Profiling? Let's drug test every politician and any politician who runs for office. I can guess they'd be much higher than 2% and not for pot.

To reiterate what she said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html?_r=0

It really is a waste of time and money.

imhungry2012

I think there needs to be modivation for people on welfare to get off welfare...that does not exist now in my opinion. I think strictor "rules" like mandating drug tests and restricting what foods can be purcased with food stamps would be the right direction. However, that will never happen in the U.S. I have no problem with any kind of public assistance for people who really need it, I do have a problem with people who abuse it...in my opinion there are a lot of people in the U.S. that seem to abuse it.

JulieBGoood

I think it should be more like WIC and only certin foods should be allowed.

beernpizza

It would be hard to regulate what they buy with their food stamps, but I think think government could do a better job at regulating WHERE they use their food stamps. I don't think that a person should be able to use their food stamps at a gas station.

And if you don't have a car, and the closest place to buy a gallon of milk is a gas station?

If you can make it to a gas station you can probably make it to a grocery store.

hearthemelody

I know that welfare laws vary from state to state, but how would a homeless person get food stamps?

Where I live I know of a couple of places that have mail slots for homeless people, if that is what you mean. It is a normal address and everything.

RunDoozer

i think that they should only be able to purchase healthy foods like milk, eggs, potatoes, veggies, fruits, breads, beans, meat and stuff of that nature (no pop, candy, or compleate junk foods) i also think they should be tested for drugs and have to do UAs to show they arnt on any drugs (if your on welfare and doing drugs why are u spending what money you do have on drugs instead of food)

The drug tests would be for those who receive cash, not food benefits. Drug testing in the few places that do it have actually cost the state more money because less than 2% tested positive and most of those who were positive were positive for marijuana. Its OK to drug test cash reciepiants based on what? Profiling? Let's drug test every politician and any politician who runs for office. I can guess they'd be much higher than 2% and not for pot.

To reiterate what she said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html?_r=0

It really is a waste of time and money.

Invalid point. Florida does everything wrong.

Bobby__Clerici

I think Americans would see such a measure as unkind and judgmental.
Often welfare bums eat poorly out of ignorance and naivete regarding nutrition and wise food choices.
We need to find a better way to educate the underclass about the benefits of preventive health and general wellness.

hearthemelody

And if you don't have a car, and the closest place to buy a gallon of milk is a gas station?

If you can make it to a gas station you can probably make it to a grocery store.

And probably is good enough for you?

RixxyRikaa

Health has socioeconomical factors. Ever realize how all the unhealthy food is dirt cheap? When you're struggling to make money, you're going to choose what is easiest/quickest to prepare as well as costs the least.

CyeRyn

I don't think that a person should be able to use their food stamps at a gas station.

I disagree with this. Where I live I can buy milk for $1-$1.39 per half gallon at Kwik Trip which saves me considerably each month since its pretty much double that in a grocery store.

Midnight_Sunshine

i think that they should only be able to purchase healthy foods like milk, eggs, potatoes, veggies, fruits, breads, beans, meat and stuff of that nature (no pop, candy, or compleate junk foods) i also think they should be tested for drugs and have to do UAs to show they arnt on any drugs (if your on welfare and doing drugs why are u spending what money you do have on drugs instead of food)

I like the way you think.

thanks im saying it would be a good idea. not saying it is an actual reality tho.

Yeah that's a great Idea.

Stop supporting people who fail drug tests on Welfare and then see what happens to the crime rates.

What would you prefer? Higher taxes or higher crime?

Idiotic.

Not to mention the amount of people on Welfare who are there because of mental illness and don't receive proper medical attention due to the ****ty US health care system and have to self medicate with illegal substances.

You people need to take a Social Work course. Good lord.

WendyTerry420

i think that they should only be able to purchase healthy foods like milk, eggs, potatoes, veggies, fruits, breads, beans, meat and stuff of that nature (no pop, candy, or compleate junk foods) i also think they should be tested for drugs and have to do UAs to show they arnt on any drugs (if your on welfare and doing drugs why are u spending what money you do have on drugs instead of food)

The drug tests would be for those who receive cash, not food benefits. Drug testing in the few places that do it have actually cost the state more money because less than 2% tested positive and most of those who were positive were positive for marijuana. Its OK to drug test cash reciepiants based on what? Profiling? Let's drug test every politician and any politician who runs for office. I can guess they'd be much higher than 2% and not for pot.

To reiterate what she said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html?_r=0

It really is a waste of time and money.

Invalid point. Florida does everything wrong.

You must be under the assumption that welfare recipients are on drugs. So you are willing to set aside the laws of economics to make it fit your prejudice. That's too bad.

joleciamichelle

In my town, there's a Farmer's Market deal where if you have children and are on EBT, you get $50 worth of produce for $25 on EBT. It's pretty sweet for us poor families attempting to watch their health.
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I work in mental health care. Not only does this keep me below the poverty line, but it also has me advocating for a handful of individuals who are much more disadvantaged than I am. I spend a lot of time in the Food Stamps office lines for my work, and yes, MOST of the other people in line with me are morbidly obese.

It would be nice if there were easier to access programs for healthy eating than the Farmer's Market one I mentioned. Most of these people can't afford the transportation or the time off work to attend the market, and I'll guarantee none of them have heard of the program.

A gym discount would be nice.

But restricting use isn't a very good idea, from a social work perspective. The majority of people on Food Stamps are either full-time workers in low-wage jobs trying to support families ( like myself ) or they are people with physical and mental disabilities. Cheap, prepackaged, easy-to-prepare or ready-to-eat meals are the only things most of my clients are able to utilize in their daily lives. They'd be unable to prepare (wash, cut, cook, consume) raw produce, meat, or grains.

Do they need help to be healthy? YOU BET. Is restricting EBT purchases a viable way to do it? **** NO.

Well said.

ninerbuff

This would actually be an easy fix. If you pay for certain items with food stamps, they cost you double. So a loaf of bread $1.00 and a loaf of jelly roll $10.00. See how far the stamps go then. This way you're not taking away what they want to buy, it's just going to cost them more.

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TheConsciousFoody

I think there needs to be modivation for people on welfare to get off welfare...that does not exist now in my opinion. I think strictor "rules" like mandating drug tests and restricting what foods can be purcased with food stamps would be the right direction. However, that will never happen in the U.S. I have no problem with any kind of public assistance for people who really need it, I do have a problem with people who abuse it...in my opinion there are a lot of people in the U.S. that seem to abuse it.

Far less than those who actually need it. Humans...are vile for the most part. Regardless of the cause or the matter...there will be a few a-holes who use and abuse SOMETHING.

AmyFett

I get a small amount of food stamps a month, not due to not working or refusing to work, being lazy, any of that. My family had a fire and this was literally the only help we could get from ANYONE to help us rebuild our lives, so we took it.. I am overweight, not even close to entirely due to my eating habits. If the government wants to start watching what we buy with our food stamps, that is just plain ridiculous! If they ban sweets, my kids can't have fruit snacks, and they do realize, healthier food is generally more expensive? I can pay 4 bucks for 2 boxes of fruit snacks or 4 bucks on 2 pieces of fruit... 16 snacks vs 2.

WIC does limit what you can get, I had it with my first daughter. They are VERY specific with what you can and cannot get. WIC is also state, if I remember correctly.

I think the government should be more concerned with those people receiving assistance who are using drugs and using their cash assistance to buy booze instead of diapers for their children and butt the **** out of my family's food choices.

lovechicagobears

It would be hard to regulate what they buy with their food stamps, but I think think government could do a better job at regulating WHERE they use their food stamps. I don't think that a person should be able to use their food stamps at a gas station.

Why? There are two gas stations with grocery sections (bread, milk, pasta, sauce, peanut butter, sugar, tuna, deli meats, etc) just a block or two away from me. The nearest grocery store is three miles away.

I'm not on food stamps, but I choose to go to the gas station when I don't feel like driving to the grocery store. I suppose the choice is even "easier" for people who have to walk or ride the bus. I actually pity people who have to rely on gas stations instead of having stores with fresh produce and healthier options closer to them. I've been on the bus with six bags of groceries; it's no picnic. I'd hate to take that option away from them and leave them without ANY options.

sofielein

"Sorry but it's that mentality that got them in trouble in the first place. That's like the people that get their tax return, and instead of paying down their debt they go out and buy a new tv on credit. Stupid choices because they want temporary joy. "

The truth is, approximately 5-10% of those people is able to change, this is the reality. Even those only can by strong motivation and encouragement and some helper network around them, and not by taking the bottle away, taping their mouth shut, and taking things away from them that other people CAN have (which is exactly what they experience 24*7).

Food addiction does not differ much from heroin addiction. You can jail the addict but the first thing they will do is get the stuff when they are out. Only those live differently who actually WANT TO. Making them want to is the hard part and cannot be done via food stamps.

lovechicagobears

Welfare should be a bag of rice and a bag of beans. If you can't get a job why should you eat high on the hog???

You're assuming people on welfare don't have jobs. You might want to research something called "the working poor".

beernpizza

And if you don't have a car, and the closest place to buy a gallon of milk is a gas station?

If you can make it to a gas station you can probably make it to a grocery store.

And probably is good enough for you?

Listen, sorry if i'm hitting too close to home for you. It sounds like I hit a nerve. I'm just saying, I don't believe people should be able to use food stamps to go to a gas station to buy pop and candy bars. And if you're buying milk at a gas station, why not drive a little further down the road and get it at a grocery store so you're not paying double for it.

ArianaLuvsMe101

Wow..

TravisBurns

Everyone should be able to buy any kinds of foods. I personally get them, and 95% of the food I buy is healthy. But that choice is up to the people getting them. I also work so I don't get much when I do get them. You shouldn't base it on weight, you should base it on eligibility. Like passing a drug test and actually working but not making enough to get by.