#3 Why calorie in calorie out ALONE isnt enough.

WhyLime113

That's unfortunate, but if you don't like him, then don't react badly back. Especially when he has good points. Because other people might walk in here, see it, then see you guys being difficult for the sake of being difficult, and then ignore the good points he's made. Why not focus on actually trying to be educational? Agree when things are good, or if you disagree, provide good reason why instead of calling the dude an idiot.
Even if he is, you can still try and keep this an educational environment otherwise.

The only good point he made was counting calories works.

I disagree. He made very good points. Like eating healthier overall vs just counting calories but not altering much of what you eat (or altering it to extremes). That calorie counting is good, but alone will not promote long term success.
If you disagree with any of his points, please tell me why. Because until you do, then I will proceed to uphold the fact that his information is mostly correct in practice for many people.

Are you reading any of the posts that are disagreeing with him?

Are you seeing the many stories of people who have made counting calories, and eating in moderation work??

Yes I am. The problem is they aren't explaining much why they disagree beyond ad hominem. I mean, if they think the guy is a douche, fine, I can see why they don't like him. He kind of is. But at least address his points and use this as an opportunity to educate or facilitate discusion. If he acts like a **** again, it's an excuse to report him.

And yes, I have heard those stories of people losing weight. Most of them right after they've lost the weight. Not the stories 10 years down the road. I mean, yes, I KNOW calorie counting works. For weight. That's why I'm still using this website. But dud ehas a point that it's not the only thing needed for sustainable weight loss or long term health. That's what his post was about. Nothing about that is disagreeable.

84woolf

I have adult onset ADHD. Can someone give the cliff notes from this novel? Sounds riveting.

^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

Crankstr

That's unfortunate, but if you don't like him, then don't react badly back. Especially when he has good points. Because other people might walk in here, see it, then see you guys being difficult for the sake of being difficult, and then ignore the good points he's made. Why not focus on actually trying to be educational? Agree when things are good, or if you disagree, provide good reason why instead of calling the dude an idiot.
Even if he is, you can still try and keep this an educational environment otherwise.

The only good point he made was counting calories works.

I disagree. He made very good points. Like eating healthier overall vs just counting calories but not altering much of what you eat (or altering it to extremes). That calorie counting is good, but alone will not promote long term success.
If you disagree with any of his points, please tell me why. Because until you do, then I will proceed to uphold the fact that his information is mostly correct in practice for many people.

Are you reading any of the posts that are disagreeing with him?

Are you seeing the many stories of people who have made counting calories, and eating in moderation work??

Yes I am. The problem is they aren't explaining much why they disagree beyond ad hominem. I mean, if they think the guy is a douche, fine, I can see why they don't like him. He kind of is. But at least address his points and use this as an opportunity to educate or facilitate discusion. If he acts like a **** again, it's an excuse to report him.

And yes, I have heard those stories of people losing weight. Most of them right after they've lost the weight. Not the stories 10 years down the road. I mean, yes, I KNOW calorie counting works. For weight. That's why I'm still using this website. But dud ehas a point that it's not the only thing needed for sustainable weight loss or long term health. That's what his post was about. Nothing about that is disagreeable.

I tried.

but he doesnt want to converse with me.

beachlover317

Thank you. Perhaps I will try them when the pop tarts are all gone. I did like the little icing packs.

I'll agree to buy a box of cinnamon Pop Tarts as well.


LOL this whole exchange made me LOL:happy:

Much easier debating merits of pop tarts and strudels than engaging in the original post for some reason.

Sarauk2sf

Thank you. Perhaps I will try them when the pop tarts are all gone. I did like the little icing packs.

I'll agree to buy a box of cinnamon Pop Tarts as well.


LOL this whole exchange made me LOL:happy:

In the spirit of mutual support and co-operation, I too shall try the divine strudel.

Alex

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