Just watched Forks Over Knives...

queenbelove

So, I watched the documentary Forks over Knives, and now I'm seriously thinking about cutting out meat/dairy. I've tried no meat before, but I know I didn't eat correctly (way too many carbs, and lots of dairy). I was just wondering if anyone has seen this movie (it's on Netflix if you want to), and if anyone is on a veg/vegan diet? Also, what kind of recipes do you have that are high in protein?

DrBroPHD

I don't let movies determine my dietary intake

MoreBean13

I don't let movies determine my dietary intake

QFT

pastryari

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/2087-forks-over-knives

jenifr818

Bacon. Oh yeah. More Bacon. Sometimes chicken with bacon
Ok I'm sorry, I'll stop :flowerforyou:

In all seriousness, my sister-in-law is vegan, and while I don't have any recipes, I can tell you she does quite well eating raw, organic vegetables and fruits. You can get your protein from lentils, nuts, and some vegetables. I think there's a few groups on MFP for vegans, you'll probably get a lot more help there than in the general forum pool

G'luck!

djames92

i just watched epic meal time and now im thinking about eating bacon and drinking copious amounts of alcohol

dinosnopro

This topic seems like it could be divisive......just sayin'

DavPul

i try not to let my netflix queue determine how i'm going to eat for the rest of my life. don't fall for the hype. you can lead a perfectly healthy life eating meat, dairy, and whatever else you want (well, maybe not poison). drastically changing your family's eating, cooking and shopping habits is a recipe for failure.

firstsip

Topics that are only relevant to a select group of people are better suited for MyFitnessPal Groups than our public message boards.

Thanks!

sunsnstatheart

i try not to let my netflix queue determine how i'm going to eat for the rest of my life. don't fall for the hype. you can lead a perfectly healthy life eating meat, dairy, and whatever else you want (well, maybe not poison). drastically changing your family's eating, cooking and shopping habits is a recipe for failure.

^^ This. I find a diet made up of a variety of animal species to be one the keystones to happy living.

DavPul

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LEA!!!!

KittieLea

Can I have your meat? lol

djames92

Can I have your meat? lol

Pixi_Rex

I don't let movies determine my dietary intake

QFT

QFT again because it needs to be.

KANGOOJUMPS

hmm.

Erienneb

i just watched epic meal time and now im thinking about eating bacon and drinking copious amounts of alcohol

^^ditto. Bacon weave.

amandarenae

I have been thinking the same thing. I watched that movie and the movie "Food Matters" and think a lot about cutting out dairy. I keep hearing so much evidence out there about how harmful it can be to your body. I also have an auto-immune disorder (rheumatoid arthritis) and have heard about people being cured by cutting out certain inflammatory foods. I think everyone is different and for some people dairy is just fine. I don't know why people get so bent out of shape though when others mention it. Nobody is going to take away your meat or cheese, settle down! Exploring the health benefits of multiple styles of eating is not a bad thing.

HardRockCamaro

Be very careful just watching documentaries like these and taking them on face value.

They are not neutral investigations, they have a conclusion already and then show you want they want to fit that conclusion.

There are a lot of write-ups on the net showing the flaws in this movie (and it is a movie, not a documentary) if you use Google.

Here's one if you cant be bothered:

http://yourdoctorsorders.com/2012/05/forks-over-knives/

And another more well known one:

http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/09/22/forks-over-knives-is-the-science-legit-a-review-and-critique/



You can pick holes in either side I guess, but Forks Over Knives is giving you one opinion and interpretation of data only. You should always see other interpretations and even research stuff yourself and learn rather than believe anything you see on tv or in the media.

CoachReddy

Glad you're getting such useful advice, OP!

Don't let this crap bother you. There are a group of folks on this board who love to be divisive and rude just for the fun of it. It's pretty sad. However, there's a lot of good info in a recent thread called 'Why should I go Vegan?' - check it out. And glad you watched it. Quite a powerful documentary.

moonsforeyes

I watched that movie too. But MOVIES are just another way media tries to shake us and change our way of thinking and in this case eating. I'd research a bit more before cutting out the deliciousness of dairy (I'm already a vegetarian haha) it has so many benefits and is delicious!

bcattoes

I actually watched that yesterday. Interesting film, though not exactly new information. There is medical evidence that too much meat, especially red meat, can increase risk of disease. And the reversal of disease experienced by the study participants was impressive, but it's not as if the only change to their diet was the eilimination of meat. A control group that made the switch to a whole food plant based diet but also included meat would have been helpful to show how much of a role the elimination of meat played.

sunsnstatheart

Glad you're getting such useful advice, OP!

Don't let this crap bother you. There are a group of folks on this board who love to be divisive and rude just for the fun of it. It's pretty sad. However, there's a lot of good info in a recent thread called 'Why should I go Vegan?' - check it out. And glad you watched it. Quite a powerful documentary.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

ACSL3

Happy Herbavores is a great group here on MFP. We share lots of recipes and there are tons of us new(er) vegans to support each other.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/62-happy-herbivores

d8402l

My thoughts on the Vegan/Vegetarian thing is this: If it's something that you want to do for yourself, do it. If you feel your health will benefit and you want to do it go for it. Don't do it because some video/person/book/website/etc... told you it was the best way to live your life. The best way to live your life is the way you want to. If what you are doing right now is making you healthy and happy and you don't feel you need to change then don't. Only make the change if it's what you feel is best for you.

That's just my 2 cents.

bcattoes

My thoughts on the Vegan/Vegetarian thing is this: If it's something that you want to do for yourself, do it. If you feel your health will benefit and you want to do it go for it. Don't do it because some video/person/book/website/etc... told you it was the best way to live your life. The best way to live your life is the way you want to. If what you are doing right now is making you healthy and happy and you don't feel you need to change then don't. Only make the change if it's what you feel is best for you.

That's just my 2 cents.

What if I want to live my life smoking crack. Is that the best for me?

d8402l

My thoughts on the Vegan/Vegetarian thing is this: If it's something that you want to do for yourself, do it. If you feel your health will benefit and you want to do it go for it. Don't do it because some video/person/book/website/etc... told you it was the best way to live your life. The best way to live your life is the way you want to. If what you are doing right now is making you healthy and happy and you don't feel you need to change then don't. Only make the change if it's what you feel is best for you.

That's just my 2 cents.

What if I want to live my life smoking crack. Is that the best for me?

Smoking crack make people neither happy nor healthy. What is the point of trying to start something when I'm just trying to be helpful to someone?

HardRockCamaro

A control group that made the switch to a whole food plant based diet but also included meat would have been helpful to show how much of a role the elimination of meat played.

There is *no-way* they were going to show you that...

Graelwyn75

I watched that movie too. But MOVIES are just another way media tries to shake us and change our way of thinking and in this case eating. I'd research a bit more before cutting out the deliciousness of dairy (I'm already a vegetarian haha) it has so many benefits and is delicious!

This ^^
I watched a fairly new movie the other evening that basically advocates Paleo and disses veganism/vegetarianism.
Everyone has their motives for producing such films, and there seem to be plenty of people ready and willing to fall into the trap, allowing their minds to be controlled by this very carefully planned movie propoganda...which is what it is, essentially.
Don't be a sheep. Research all avenues and find your own balance, which is what I did.

imtrinat

I was all for it too when I watched it. Then I did some research of my own and found out that there is some seriously flawed data in that movie. Check out this review. It's probably the world's longest movie review but it explains the errors in detail.

http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/09/22/forks-over-knives-is-the-science-legit-a-review-and-critique/

queenbelove

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/2087-forks-over-knives

Thanks for the link. I will check it out.

queenbelove

Bacon. Oh yeah. More Bacon. Sometimes chicken with bacon
Ok I'm sorry, I'll stop :flowerforyou:

In all seriousness, my sister-in-law is vegan, and while I don't have any recipes, I can tell you she does quite well eating raw, organic vegetables and fruits. You can get your protein from lentils, nuts, and some vegetables. I think there's a few groups on MFP for vegans, you'll probably get a lot more help there than in the general forum pool

G'luck!

lol It's cool. I see the general forum here is full of....*ahem*....so, I will check the groups anyway. Thanks. Btw, I've thought about doing a raw foods diet, but I'm in no way ready for that.