Doritos are not meth.

76tech

TL,DR;

doritos are not meth. or related to it. in any way, shape or form.

cheez-its are.

trophywife24

tl;dr

can someone post cliff's plz?

Summary: What works for one person should work for everyone else.

/end

infamousmk

One last point I think I should share while I'm on my high horse:



If you have a clinically-diagnosed food addiction, this thread probably isn't for you. You are a special case, you do have to manage things in your universe differently than the average person.

But for the run of the mill, average member of MFP, who doesn't see a doctor about their willpower and food, it's pretty safe to say you can enjoy Doritos in moderation with enough determination.

Siege_Tank

I don’t want this to turn into some horrible flame war thread

This should be good. The best threads always start off with a sentence a lot like that.

But I agree with you OP, there's nothing wrong with fitting a little fun into your macro!

Bumdrahp

As in my thread earlier today..


I ate half a brownie batter donut..


I enjoyed that *kitten*.

ama5210

Topic intruiged me as Doritos were meth for me for a while. I love your attitude! WE have the power within us - food is meant to nourish our bodies. One good choice leads to another in my experience. One day at a time.....

sharonKay65

You made a lot of good points!! I can't tell you how many times, I have eaten something I probably should not have and rather than just move on and think "next time I will try to make a better choice" I fall into the mindset of " oh well, I just blew my diet so I may as well eat whatever now" I think the key is moderation, and even though I have lost weight before, this time I am really trying to do it healthy and concentrate on the choices I make. I tend to like sweets, but when my Daughter went shopping last night and brought cookies home, I read the nutritional label and thought to myself "I can do better than this" meaning, for the calories and fat content, I thought about all the other foods I could eat for a lot fewer calories and fat grams.

I am not saying, that I know without a doubt I will never eat cookies or a cupcake again or chips and dip, but each time I can make a healthier choice it makes me feel better. Then I know if I occasionally want to splurge or enjoy a special treat I can. When that time comes that I do, I will do like you said and log it the best I can and move on. Great job on the weight you have lost so far, you must be doing something right.

chocl8girl

tl;dr

can someone post cliff's plz?

Summary: What works for one person should work for everyone else.

/end

That's not what the OP said at all. Reading comprehension fail.

Rhonnie

While your post is correct - it is only practical once you have a healthy relationship with food. Everyone has different triggers and are at different stages in their struggle to have a healthy relationship with food. Moderation works for some right from the start, others have to work through some issues with their 'drug' before they can incorporate it back into their diet.

phildawson75

It's a great OP but I'm guessing 99% of the people reading this thread are already eating in moderation.

It's a shame that a campaign can't be made to inform those that believe all the fad diets and weight watcher style meals.

Whilst we're at it we could stop people buying that unnecessary Activia / yakult crap.

stephdeeable

tl;dr

can someone post cliff's plz?

Food does not control us. We should not feel shame or guilt. Learning self control is the key.

paigemarie93

It's a great OP but I'm guessing 99% of the people reading this thread are already eating in moderation.

It's a shame that a campaign can't be made to inform those that believe all the fad diets and weight watcher style meals.

Whilst we're at it we could stop people buying that unnecessary Activia / yakult crap.

Activia is yummy!

My0WNinspiration

Doritos are crack laced with meth!!

calisunrise

best post on mfp so far

majikmiker

Eat Doritos in moderation? Unpossible!

Seriously. It's not even remotely likely.

So yeah, avoiding food which so easily defeats one's willpower is a good life choice.

I'm going to venture a guess that if you're letting Doritos have so much power over you that you can't eat them in moderation, you need to work on your willpower.

You are choosing the lazy way, and you are not making lifelong-sustainable choices.

Wow! Talk about being judgemental! So if I choose to ban foods from my house, like doritos, then I'm being lazy and not making good life choices??? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying.

Should we fill up our houses with all the junky foods we crave all the time in order to "be strong"??

If I'm trying to eat healthy, why would I go to Wendy's for lunch? Same idea right? If I'm trying not to eat junk food, why keep it in the house. I believe I'm exercising my will power by not buying or allowing these foods into my home. :huh:

Dyann_Alvarez

Awesome.

LoraF83

While your post is correct - it is only practical once you have a healthy relationship with food. Everyone has different triggers and are at different stages in their struggle to have a healthy relationship with food. Moderation works for some right from the start, others have to work through some issues with their 'drug' before they can incorporate it back into their diet.

But the whole point is that you should be practicing a healthy relationship with food.

You're not always going to get it right, but the more you practice, the better at it you will be. You can't restrict everything and then expect your food issues to be cured just because you reach your goal weight.

G30Grrl

I am a food addict, I don't understand moderation.

That's just an excuse, everyone understands moderation, you just have to say NO to yourself and see it through.
It isn't easy, but it's not impossible if you keep trying.

I'm sorry, but are you a psychiatrist? A medical doctor? If not, perhaps you should not try speaking with authority on topics you do not understand.


It's great that you can eat crap in moderation. Don't shame the people who cannot. It's just plain rude, and it makes you look like a jerk.

I'm sorry? I don't understand, really? I've been there, done that, got the t-shirt & lost the weight, so please, go on & tell me how I do not understand.
No actually, I was saying it in a stern encouraging "it is possible, you can do it" way! No shaming intended.

It's nice to see that after a year MFP still has people who jump the gun & ride high horses.

Dear, you are 19 years old. You are not an expert. I congratulate you on your weight loss; that is no easy feat. It took a lot of effort and insight on your part, and for that, I applaud you.

Just remember that what is true or what works for you is NOT necessarily true for others. I notice you didn't quote or argue with the part of my post that said that food does actually act as a drug for some people, and therefore as an addiction, cannot be controlled with will power alone. You believe that self-knowledge and will power to eat in moderation should be enough for everyone, because they worked for you. That is incorrect.

Telling someone that their addiction is just an excuse most certainly IS shaming, regardless of your intentions. Would you tell an alcoholic that their addiction is just an excuse, and that they should be able to suck it up and have just one drink?

Some of us HAVE to completely refrain from eating certain foods. Period. We do what works for us. You do what works for you. We all lose weight. Yay!

trophywife24

tl;dr

can someone post cliff's plz?

Summary: What works for one person should work for everyone else.

/end

That's not what the OP said at all. Reading comprehension fail.

Gosh, I would love to get into an internet slapping match but I have not had my afternoon java yet.

Jaulen

*snip*
I don’t shiver and sob on my bathroom floor while rubbing Sensa crystals all over my body. I ate a cupcake, I didn’t hit someone with my car and keep driving, so why should I feel guilty?

*snip*

There’s no shifty dudes hanging out in the alley trying to sell you Cheetos. Doritos are not meth.

*snip*

These lines had me cracking up.

i now have images of Chester Cheetah in a dark back alley....*Psst* Heya little lady, want some cheesy crack?

Shelbert79

You're awesome! I love this post!

bgerend

Doritos are not meth.

Yeah, meth isn't usually loaded with MSG. Probably better for you in the long run.

/notreally

Great post, I like your outlook!

honeysprinkles

Great post! I completely agree, even though it's sometimes easier said than done.

bethFromDayton

People differ.

This. Yes, people differ. I think of it as terms of alcohol. Some people realize they're drinking too much and they cut back but can still drink moderately. Other people have to stop cold turkey because they know once they start, they'll keep going. Others can't even stand to be in a bar or have alcohol in the house.

We differ--what we need to stay on course varies by person and even varies by time for a person. If someone needs to eliminate all junk food from his/her house to avoid temptation, who am I to tell them they ought to eat it in moderation?

If someone can eat something in moderation and get right back on track, who am I to tell them to cut it out completely?

And if someone eats total junk and gains weight, who am I to tell them to change their habits?

I know I'm working on identifying what works for me *right now*. That may change--but right now is what I'm dealing with now. That's true for all of us.

The OP was making pronouncements and assertions that work for HER--that doesn't mean they're right for everyone. Sanctimonious much?

sdbart

I don’t shiver and sob on my bathroom floor while rubbing Sensa crystals all over my body. I ate a cupcake, I didn’t hit someone with my car and keep driving, so why should I feel guilty?

ROFLOL! :laugh: :sad:
I swear after reading that I was laughing so hard, I almost peed my pants! Seriously.... I agree, to a point. Yes you can enjoy the occasional sweets but if you know that your willpower is not strong enough to have it in the house, then do not have it in the house. It is about how you deal with things that you know you will binge on. Slip ups happen and yes you just need to move on and try a little harder.

chocl8girl

While your post is correct - it is only practical once you have a healthy relationship with food. Everyone has different triggers and are at different stages in their struggle to have a healthy relationship with food. Moderation works for some right from the start, others have to work through some issues with their 'drug' before they can incorporate it back into their diet.

Hmm...but the point of weight loss should be to work on that healthy relationship with food. No one is saying that if you have to refrain from certain foods for now to get to the point where you need to be, that you shouldn't do that. The point is that whilst working on your relationship with food, it is possible that refraining from your "triggers" may not be necessary forever.

Love yourself. Work on your relationship with food, in any way that you need to for now, but know that there are other things you can practice that may work for you.

allisonlane61

I see what you're saying, but we each have to find our own way through the minefield of temptation. There are certain things I don't buy because I don't want to be eating them, and I know if they're here, I will rationalize having just a little, which as often as not turns into a lot.

It does annoy me how easily people throw around the word "addiction". It does not mean "love so much that I can't resist", but I have to admit it's accepted common usage for the word. It shouldn't be.

Yeah, this.

At 51, I'm past working on my will power with my food-weaknesses (you know, those one or two things you just seem to not be able to get enough of). I'll take the easy route and just not bring my weakness food in my house, or I'll buy the mini-size and bring it in. If I'm out, I can control my weaknesses and have a few chips, or just a TBSP of a great dip and bread, but in my home it's harder. I see no need to have to expend energy on controlling will power with my one or two weakness foods. I'd rather spend my time doing something else, so I just don't bring it in.

We each handle things differently. Maybe if you're a young adult, going to master the will power is a rewarding and important experience. I know what I'm able to control and not control, so I'll just treat the symptoms at this point. I do eat that occasional cupcake at work, and I don't have to worry that I'll eat another three if they're a real winner cupcake.

Incidentally, I am 72 pounds lighter, have kept it off, and am now only 25 pounds away from goal. But no guilt, no matter what I eat. That's self defeating.

EDIT: Incidentally, I had no idea the OP's age until reading a post after this one. I was speaking from my own journey and how I've evolved from being a young adult into an older woman who understands herself, her weaknesses, and what is best for her.

darisey

Wonderful post. I absolutely agree (with no "but"'s) and I also think about all of this whenever someone posts something posts out banning food or panicking because they went over or thinking that people are evil sabotagers for offering cake or cupcakes.

I started this journey because I wanted to be skinny, had no willpower, was terrified of food. Nearly 45lbs later, I have learned so much. I eat whatever I want and my goal now is just learning. Learning moderation, learning what portion sizes look like, learning to have a better relationship with food and that there is something in between starving myself and eating way too much. Its a very empowering thing!

PeachyKeene

I am a food addict, I don't understand moderation.

That's just an excuse, everyone understands moderation, you just have to say NO to yourself and see it through.
It isn't easy, but it's not impossible if you keep trying.

Easier said than done, I have been on this journey for a very long time. I know what works for me. Not having these foods works best for me.

Don't judge me, until you have been in my shoes and certainly don't tell me I am using it as an excuse. That is your opinion, not fact.

I am so glad for you, that you don't suffer with my problems.

kungfujen

Love this post. It is ok to indulge occasionally. No food is so evil that you should never eat it unless you have some sort of allergy or intolerance. I just had to have waffles yesterday, so I ate waffles, enjoyed my waffles, and made sure that I had a light and sensible dinner and a good workout.