Doritos are not meth.
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We all have our weaknesses and our areas where we lack self-control for whatever reason(s).
Maybe the same person who knocks you for being 50 pounds overweight, can't stop watching porn or maxing their credit cards. Same difference.
Exercising self-control with food just happens to be my weakness. But, I'm working on turning it into a strength. Some day it will happen.
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:drinker: This is awesome. Thanks for the laugh and refreshing perspective.0
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Only on MFP would a thread about not shaming yourself turn into "STOP SHAMING ME! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!" Le sigh. I have to go to work now, hopefully this thread isn't nuked before I get home so I can continue to read about how I don't understand what it's like to be fat.
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Excellent post!!
We can't all go around avoiding the things that got us where we "didn't want to be". One of these days you will be at that SuperBowl party with bags of doritos, bowls of dip and piles of hot wings. You can't take yourself out of every situation just to avoid overeating. The key is learning to be in those situations, eating some, whether more than you should or a serving, logging it and moving on. The more you practice the easier it will become to stop at a serving. People who quit smoking can't take themselves out of every situation involving cigarettes......you can always bum one, but just saying no in the midst of the temptation is the key.0 -
I’m hesitant even as I write this, because I don’t want this to turn into some horrible flame war thread, because I write this with good intentions and not to judge or bully anyone. But it’s been on my mind for some time so I want to write it out…
Everywhere I look on this site I see threads or comments where people are losing their damn mind because someone brought cupcakes into work, or their mother-in-law made pasta for Sunday dinner, or they had to drive past a Taco Bell last Wednesday and it’s been giving them night terrors. They refuse to eat these things in moderation, or fit them somewhere in their daily/weekly/monthly goals and instead spend hours freaking out and obsessing about what they ate, didn’t eat or almost ate.
If someone brings cupcakes into my work, and I decide I’d like one – I eat it, I think “What a delicious cupcake.”, log it as best as I can in my food journal and continue with my day. I never think about it again, I don’t skip dinner or do an extra workout or pray to the Weight Loss God. I don’t shiver and sob on my bathroom floor while rubbing Sensa crystals all over my body. I ate a cupcake, I didn’t hit someone with my car and keep driving, so why should I feel guilty?
I’m not saying I don’t make bad choices some days. The other day I ate an entire bag of tortilla chips and an entire jar of queso dip. And not throughout the day or at a casual social event. I sat on my couch and crammed about 1500 calories into my mouth in 20 minutes. Did I regret it afterwards? Of course I did. Do I now think I have a queso addiction and refuse to have it in my house? No. There is a bag of chips in my cupboard and a jar of dip in my fridge. I like to enjoy a serving of each some nights after work.
The big picture is, food can not own or control us. We have power over our own minds. You are not addicted to chocolate. You are not addicted to carbs. There’s no shifty dudes hanging out in the alley trying to sell you Cheetos. Doritos are not meth. Losing weight to me has nothing to do with looking smokin’ hot in a bikini, one of my biggest goals is to continue to learn and implement my own self control. To learn how to keep things in balance, and make good decisions. I will slip up sometimes and moderation can fly out the window, but I’d rather learn from my mistakes than constantly worry about these “bad foods” and when they’re going to get me. I want to be free from these restrictions we put upon ourselves.
I’m not saying you have to keep eating junk food. If you don’t want to, don’t. If you want to eat clean (whatever that actually means), then go nuts. Just stop giving food more power than it has. I am so sick of people talking about food like it’s a drug. “Oh, I can’t control myself around sweets.” Yes, you can. You just never have. “I can’t have chips in my house!” Sure you can. Sometimes you’ll ration them out serving by serving throughout the week, and sometimes you’ll eat the entire bag at once and regret it afterwards. In my opinion, you will learn more from that than from walking through life with your eyes closed pretending chips don’t exist.
They do exist. And they are delicious.
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Well, I do agree that you shouldn't deprive yourself from a cupcake, but even someone like myself would prolly eat 2 cupcakes. I know my dad likes to fry some chicken wings sometimes, and I catch myself even eating 5 or 6 of them when I already had dinner. I just do my best to avoid it.0
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can someone post cliff's plz?
Summary: What works for one person should work for everyone else.
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That's not what the OP said at all. Reading comprehension fail.
Gosh, I would love to get into an internet slapping match but I have not had my afternoon java yet.
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Just because someone says what works for them, doesn't mean they automatically mean are insisting that it will work for everyone else. What I got was that this worked for her, and it COULD work for you, too. Take what you want from it and leave the rest. It's really not that hard.
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Eat Doritos in moderation? Unpossible!
Seriously. It's not even remotely likely.
So yeah, avoiding food which so easily defeats one's willpower is a good life choice.
I'm going to venture a guess that if you're letting Doritos have so much power over you that you can't eat them in moderation, you need to work on your willpower.
You are choosing the lazy way, and you are not making lifelong-sustainable choices.
Wow! Talk about being judgemental! So if I choose to ban foods from my house, like doritos, then I'm being lazy and not making good life choices??? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying.
Should we fill up our houses with all the junky foods we crave all the time in order to "be strong"??
If I'm trying to eat healthy, why would I go to Wendy's for lunch? Same idea right? If I'm trying not to eat junk food, why keep it in the house. I believe I'm exercising my will power by not buying or allowing these foods into my home. :huh:
Choosing a junk-food-free lifestyle is not the same as saying, "this junk food has so much control over me that I can't have it around." You are making a leap here.
Personally, I'm not giving up junk food or Wendy's. I want to have these things on occasion, when it's appropriate, for the rest of my life. So, I have to learn how to have a healthy relationship with Doritos and Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers, which includes using my willpower to make the right choices.0 -
I think I love you.
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What a fantastic post! Like you (author) I am also enjoying my new relationship with food. Finding out that I can say "no" if I choose to, that I can help myself, that I don't have to do anything has been great. Like you, if I want it, I eat it and log it. I then move on0
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They are prob worse than meth due to the corn (killed the mayans), artificial dyes and MSG in them among other nasty things0
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I am a food addict, I don't understand moderation.
That's just an excuse, everyone understands moderation, you just have to say NO to yourself and see it through.
It isn't easy, but it's not impossible if you keep trying.
I'm sorry, but are you a psychiatrist? A medical doctor? If not, perhaps you should not try speaking with authority on topics you do not understand.
It's great that you can eat crap in moderation. Don't shame the people who cannot. It's just plain rude, and it makes you look like a jerk.
I'm sorry? I don't understand, really? I've been there, done that, got the t-shirt & lost the weight, so please, go on & tell me how I do not understand.
No actually, I was saying it in a stern encouraging "it is possible, you can do it" way! No shaming intended.
It's nice to see that after a year MFP still has people who jump the gun & ride high horses.
Dear, you are 19 years old. You are not an expert. I congratulate you on your weight loss; that is no easy feat. It took a lot of effort and insight on your part, and for that, I applaud you.
Just remember that what is true or what works for you is NOT necessarily true for others. I notice you didn't quote or argue with the part of my post that said that food does actually act as a drug for some people, and therefore as an addiction, cannot be controlled with will power alone. You believe that self-knowledge and will power to eat in moderation should be enough for everyone, because they worked for you. That is incorrect.
Telling someone that their addiction is just an excuse most certainly IS shaming, regardless of your intentions. Would you tell an alcoholic that their addiction is just an excuse, and that they should be able to suck it up and have just one drink?
Some of us HAVE to completely refrain from eating certain foods. Period. We do what works for us. You do what works for you. We all lose weight. Yay!
Go back, I posted twice & seems you only saw the accidental post before I had done my proof read & edit.
I said "Being a binge eater, alcoholic, addict of anything, is something you can overcome, you just have to stop making excuses & work at it. "
Addictions cannot be overcome without willpower & over coming them is ENTIRELY willpower, maybe with help & a little push along the way (I never said on your own, help isn't a bad thing but you have to give your all!), but it is all your own willpower to not eat those foods, to not drink that drink, to not take those drugs.
I never said their addiction was an excuse, I said saying you don't understand moderation is an excuse, and it is, because if you say things like that you are going to believe it & end up trapped in your addiction.
I'm sure you're not as much as an expert as you're making yourself out to be either!0 -
I don’t shiver and sob on my bathroom floor while rubbing Sensa crystals all over my body.
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I think it is not the Dorito everyone is actually complaining about. I think the real issue is self control and the internal struggle that goes along with dieting. Is junk food adicting? I think it is. Is some shady dude in the shadows peddling Doritos? No they are ruining the American diet from a boardroom in broad daylight. They are also driving a Porshe and living in a mansion while doing it.
In the end, you are right. If you want something then make room in your diet and eat it. Even if it's Doritos.
So, I'll brush off the sensa crystals and dry my eyes.
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tl;dr
can someone post cliff's plz?
Summary: What works for one person should work for everyone else.
/end
That's not what the OP said at all. Reading comprehension fail.
Gosh, I would love to get into an internet slapping match but I have not had my afternoon java yet.
:yawn:
Just because someone says what works for them, doesn't mean they automatically mean are insisting that it will work for everyone else. What I got was that this worked for her, and it COULD work for you, too. Take what you want from it and leave the rest. It's really not that hard.
Anyway...
lol @ at the condescending yawning smiley face. Anyway, indeed.0 -
I am a food addict, I don't understand moderation.
That's just an excuse, everyone understands moderation, you just have to say NO to yourself and see it through.
It isn't easy, but it's not impossible if you keep trying.
Easier said than done, I have been on this journey for a very long time. I know what works for me. Not having these foods works best for me.
Don't judge me, until you have been in my shoes and certainly don't tell me I am using it as an excuse. That is your opinion, not fact.
I am so glad for you, that you don't suffer with my problems.
PLEASE READ. I was actually encouraging you not to think so negatively, otherwise you will never overcome this.
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I am a food addict, I don't understand moderation.
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That's just an excuse, everyone understands moderation, you just have to say NO to yourself and see it through.
It isn't easy, but it's not impossible if you keep trying.
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I'm sorry, but are you a psychiatrist? A medical doctor? If not, perhaps you should not try speaking with authority on topics you do not understand.
It's great that you can eat crap in moderation. Don't shame the people who cannot. It's just plain rude, and it makes you look like a jerk.
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I'm sorry? I don't understand, really? I've been there, done that, got the t-shirt & lost the weight, so please, go on & tell me how I do not understand.
No actually, I was saying it in a stern encouraging "it is possible, you can do it" way! No shaming intended.
It's nice to see that after a year MFP still has people who jump the gun & ride high horses.
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Dear, you are 19 years old. You are not an expert. I congratulate you on your weight loss; that is no easy feat. It took a lot of effort and insight on your part, and for that, I applaud you.
Just remember that what is true or what works for you is NOT necessarily true for others. I notice you didn't quote or argue with the part of my post that said that food does actually act as a drug for some people, and therefore as an addiction, cannot be controlled with will power alone. You believe that self-knowledge and will power to eat in moderation should be enough for everyone, because they worked for you. That is incorrect.
Telling someone that their addiction is just an excuse most certainly IS shaming, regardless of your intentions. Would you tell an alcoholic that their addiction is just an excuse, and that they should be able to suck it up and have just one drink?
Some of us HAVE to completely refrain from eating certain foods. Period. We do what works for us. You do what works for you. We all lose weight. Yay!
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Go back, I posted twice & seems you only saw the accidental post before I had done my proof read & edit.
I said "Being a binge eater, alcoholic, addict of anything, is something you can overcome, you just have to stop making excuses & work at it. "
Addictions cannot be overcome without willpower & over coming them is ENTIRELY willpower, maybe with help & a little push along the way (I never said on your own, help isn't a bad thing but you have to give your all!), but it is all your own willpower to not eat those foods, to not drink that drink, to not take those drugs.
I never said their addiction was an excuse, I said saying you don't understand moderation is an excuse, and it is, because if you say things like that you are going to believe it & end up trapped in your addiction.
I'm sure you're not as much as an expert as you're making yourself out to be either!
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quoting wouldn't work.0 -
best post on mfp so far
i take offense. why are you so mean? stop bullying me.0 -
While your post is correct - it is only practical once you have a healthy relationship with food. Everyone has different triggers and are at different stages in their struggle to have a healthy relationship with food. Moderation works for some right from the start, others have to work through some issues with their 'drug' before they can incorporate it back into their diet.
THIS^^^... and a little compassion goes a long way. Everyone isn't going to act how you think they should act. Relax... It's their issue NOT yours. I agree with what you are saying... but i think it is hurtful to those who are truly addicted to food. Addiction is very real. They have to learn to moderate and that can take time. Give them a break... This journey is a very emotional one for many people.0 -
Best post EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm sure this thread got out of hand, but I'm glad I read the OP. It was a great post, and it needed to be said. Couldn't agree more. :happy:0
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Evidently, binge eating on a single food was never your issue.
Hot Cheetos. They will haunt me for the rest of my life.
I wish I had the strength to ban those from my house. I don't care how much they burn, I will eat an entire bag and love it!0 -
Evidently, binge eating on a single food was never your issue.
Hot Cheetos. They will haunt me for the rest of my life.
????????????????????Love flaming hot Cheetos! I can eat a $1.25 bag with chamoy sauce ( red hot Mexican sauce) a day! But then I start pooping red! ???? Soo I am cutting it to one bag every 3 weeks or so!0 -
People that suffer from binge eating, often have to avoid certain foods, situations, and temptations to stay on track. Don't judge if you've never been there.
It's like saying, I only smoke in "moderation"
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I’m hesitant even as I write this, because I don’t want this to turn into some horrible flame war thread, because I write this with good intentions and not to judge or bully anyone. But it’s been on my mind for some time so I want to write it out…
Everywhere I look on this site I see threads or comments where people are losing their damn mind because someone brought cupcakes into work, or their mother-in-law made pasta for Sunday dinner, or they had to drive past a Taco Bell last Wednesday and it’s been giving them night terrors. They refuse to eat these things in moderation, or fit them somewhere in their daily/weekly/monthly goals and instead spend hours freaking out and obsessing about what they ate, didn’t eat or almost ate.
If someone brings cupcakes into my work, and I decide I’d like one – I eat it, I think “What a delicious cupcake.”, log it as best as I can in my food journal and continue with my day. I never think about it again, I don’t skip dinner or do an extra workout or pray to the Weight Loss God. I don’t shiver and sob on my bathroom floor while rubbing Sensa crystals all over my body. I ate a cupcake, I didn’t hit someone with my car and keep driving, so why should I feel guilty?
I’m not saying I don’t make bad choices some days. The other day I ate an entire bag of tortilla chips and an entire jar of queso dip. And not throughout the day or at a casual social event. I sat on my couch and crammed about 1500 calories into my mouth in 20 minutes. Did I regret it afterwards? Of course I did. Do I now think I have a queso addiction and refuse to have it in my house? No. There is a bag of chips in my cupboard and a jar of dip in my fridge. I like to enjoy a serving of each some nights after work.
The big picture is, food can not own or control us. We have power over our own minds. You are not addicted to chocolate. You are not addicted to carbs. There’s no shifty dudes hanging out in the alley trying to sell you Cheetos. Doritos are not meth. Losing weight to me has nothing to do with looking smokin’ hot in a bikini, one of my biggest goals is to continue to learn and implement my own self control. To learn how to keep things in balance, and make good decisions. I will slip up sometimes and moderation can fly out the window, but I’d rather learn from my mistakes than constantly worry about these “bad foods” and when they’re going to get me. I want to be free from these restrictions we put upon ourselves.
I’m not saying you have to keep eating junk food. If you don’t want to, don’t. If you want to eat clean (whatever that actually means), then go nuts. Just stop giving food more power than it has. I am so sick of people talking about food like it’s a drug. “Oh, I can’t control myself around sweets.” Yes, you can. You just never have. “I can’t have chips in my house!” Sure you can. Sometimes you’ll ration them out serving by serving throughout the week, and sometimes you’ll eat the entire bag at once and regret it afterwards. In my opinion, you will learn more from that than from walking through life with your eyes closed pretending chips don’t exist.
They do exist. And they are delicious.
Mocking people who struggle with food is a good intention to you? You don't want to be judge but your whole post is just judging people who struggle with these foods. Just keep doing what you are doing, its working for you and not worry about what other people struggle with and with what they are doing.0 -
I think anything in moderation is okay. Calories in calories out is my motto. I am not on a diet. I eat what I when I want it. I do not stock my cabinets with chips, cookies ect. I did not get 200 pounds overweight from eating in moderation. But I am correcting that by changing my lifestyle. Its works for me. what works for one does not always work for others. Love this site and the information we recieve from others. Thanks for sharing0
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I have only once felt 'properly' addicted to something.
I was prescribed Tramadol for pain relief after a broken tib+fib and a generally busted up body from a motorcycle racing crash.
When I stopped taking it after reducing to one pill a night from 8 over the day I got all the classic 'cold turkey' symptoms - couldn't sleep, itchy under the skin feeling etc - gave in at 5am and slept.
I still found it easier to stop taking that than I do to stop/not eat high calorie food I like.
Conclusion - Doritos (with some melted cheese, of course), are actually worse than an opiate style drug. 0 -
No matter what sense you may have posted following this, but you've lost any respect. And I know because I am older than you and there for wiser than you, that's the way things work, as you get older you get smarter... or not, age does not always wisdom Bring.
Dear, you are 19 years old.
Don't demean people who are younger than you, and I won't shoot your arguments full of holes.
So Grow up, and prove your points without relying on hackneyed ageist arguments.0 -
Great Post!
I spend a week every summer with a group of women who pig out daily and sit around complaining about it. I would like to for once go on this trip and they keep silent about how much they ate all week. The purpose of the trip was not about food but they seem to really focus and groan. It is so frustrating.0 -
Good post. I know food can be addiction and I read a study that reported several obese peoples, when tested their brain images matched those of addicts (none of them were addicted to other substances). Which I found interesting. But addiction can be conquered. However, Doritos are gross to each their own. 0
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You are the bomb! Good luck with your goals!0
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