Social Policing of "did you get your flu shot?" Yay or nay?
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I've never signed anything. Half the time I was never even asked if I wanted the shot, they just made me get it. So i don't think that's completely true. JS.
They were being lax
Maybe assuming you knew the risks and consenting because you pulled up your sleeve
I apologize
I amend my statement
By federal law, a vaccine information sheet must be given prior to immunization
Not all states require a signed consent0 -
^ yes exactly and imagine if people are asking you not even about your own choices but those of OTHERS. geesh!I will not get them anymore, as everytime I did, I got sick. The past few years I haven't got them, and I haven't gotten sick. I refuse to let my little one get them either. Talk crap if you will, her health is in my best interest, and the first time she got one, she got horribly sick.
Definitely a personal choice. I am starting to see why the OP dreads answering this question..lol.0 -
I absolutely do not believe in getting flu shots. And it should be left up to each person to make their own decision regarding doing so. If a parent decides to not have their children immunized, that's their right.0
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I've never signed anything. Half the time I was never even asked if I wanted the shot, they just made me get it. So i don't think that's completely true. JS.
They were being lax
Maybe assuming you knew the risks and consenting because you pulled up your sleeve
I apologize
I amend my statement
By federal law, a vaccine information sheet must be given prior to immunization
Not all states require a signed consent
Never got one of those either, EVER.0 -
Didn't take long for the vaccines cause autism crowd to show up.
That settles it, I'm out.0 -
Didn't take long for the vaccines cause autism crowd to show up.
That settles it, I'm out.
At least you were wearing your seatbelt0 -
so what's a good answer when people are getting nosy? I asked on another post and someone said stfu, but I can't go around saying that to p.t.a. moms?
How about, it's none of your business? Or...just say yes or no..and if someone starts ranting just walk away. And yes, you can do this to PTA moms and to anyone else for that matter.
I wish this were possible, but unfortunately there are "political" ramifications when you are perceived as rude, even if the other person were rude to begin with.
^yes this. especially when they approach you with a "we're in this together" vibe and talking about someone else. I hate being pitted against anyone generally but especially about something so personal. i wanna be switzerland on this topic but i know them bringing it up means it means a lot to them.
Just be vague or pretend your phone is vibrating..lol.
LOVE IT! THIS ONE!
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It's an unfortunate controversial topic. I'm personally against them. People get them & get sick. I don't get them & don't. That's good enough for me. I'm not telling someone what to shoot up into their body so no one should tell me what to shoot up into mine.
As far as the whole, "You may be ok but you're putting other people in danger" bs - How about everyone wash their hands, cover their mouths when they cough & sneeze, & stop coming into school or work sick before they demand people get shot up with junk?0 -
It's an unfortunate controversial topic. I'm personally against them. People get them & get sick. I don't get them & don't. That's good enough for me. I'm not telling someone what to shoot up into their body so no one should tell me what to shoot up into mine.
As far as the whole, "You may be ok but you're putting other people in danger" bs - How about everyone wash their hands, cover their mouths when they cough & sneeze, & stop coming into school or work sick before they demand people get shot up with junk?
Miss school or work? This is utterly unacceptable. The machine must churn forth. Your desires be damned!0 -
I'll admit that this is the first year I got the flu shot. I was quite allergic to egg whites when I was younger. Many vaccines, including the current flu shot, is incubated in eggs and has the potential to cause a deadly allergic reaction to people with egg allergies. Since I haven't had any allergic reaction to eggs in many years and confirmed with an allergy test that I no longer have an allergic response to eggs, I went ahead and got the vaccine. The pharmacists (I had it done at my local pharmacy) had me wait around for twenty minutes after the shot to be sure I didn't have a reaction. Fortunately, all went well. But my point is that there are people with allergies that simply can't get the regular flu shot. I understand that an egg-free version is being tested. I don't know if or when it will be available.
SO this really underscores the point that it is an incredibly personal and complex choice. Then I feel all in all better armed to face those busybodies now THANKs all of you, let's agree to disagree and go make more nonsense on other more fun posts, yes?:drinker: :smokin: PARTY ON CROWD!0 -
Right or wrong, you can't stop people for asking, but simply stating that's personal or none of your business should be effective.
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Hi. Just wanted to share that my daughter got her flu shot 9/5/12 and was paralyzed from the waist down 9/7/12. We were living in the hospital for 31 days. During her stay she was on steroid treatments for 5 days, plasmapheresis for 5 days, ivig for 5 days, 2 small doses of chemo, 5 more days of steroids. She also had 3 MRI'S, 2 lumbar punctures, and a ton of blood work. My daughter can no longer urinate on her own. She needs to be cathed every 4 hours around the clock and must drink miralax to soften her stools so it can just slip out. She is only 2. Her neurologist says her paralysis is permanent because the inflammation in her spine ate away her spinal cord leaving it as thin as a hair line.. So, I'm not telling anyone not to get it, but please read up and be sure that you are ok with the consequences that may come from getting a vaccine such as a flu shot or any other vaccine. I would hate for someone else to have to go through all the pain and suffering that we are going through. much love0
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Hi. Just wanted to share that my daughter got her flu shot 9/5/12 and was paralyzed from the waist down 9/7/12. We were living in the hospital for 31 days. During her stay she was on steroid treatments for 5 days, plasmapheresis for 5 days, ivig for 5 days, 2 small doses of chemo, 5 more days of steroids. She also had 3 MRI'S, 2 lumbar punctures, and a ton of blood work. My daughter can no longer urinate on her own. She needs to be cathed every 4 hours around the clock and must drink miralax to soften her stools so it can just slip out. She is only 2. Her neurologist says her paralysis is permanent because the inflammation in her spine ate away her spinal cord leaving it as thin as a hair line.. So, I'm not telling anyone not to get it, but please read up and be sure that you are ok with the consequences that may come from getting a vaccine such as a flu shot or any other vaccine. I would hate for someone else to have to go through all the pain and suffering that we are going through. much love
I'm sorry0 -
In Europe we recommend vaccination of the elderly and the very young against the flu. Teenagers, young adults, and adults can get vaccinated (free), but it's a personal decision - I haven't had a vaccine like that, and I don't know anyone 10-60 who has had one.
Edit to add, we are all very good with our non-optional vaccines, and we don't have higher rates of autism or anything. Complications from vaccines occur, but they don't cause autism here!0 -
I did get the flu shot once because my family dr layed a guilt trip on me since I am a massage therapist. I never had any issues with it but will never get one again if I can avoid it. I do take elderberry extract that does get rid of the flu. For me, my body does better on herbal products than it does on medicines. My body treats the meds as a bacteria that needs to be attacked rather than allowing it to do its thing to get rid of whatever is going on in my body.
We even had a neighbor that got the flu shot years ago and he went deaf. We thought it was caused from the type of work he did but years later he was talking to everyone on the street. It turned out he was able to get an implant that allowed him to hear again. When he told us about the flu shot and how it caused his deafness I just don't want to take the chance with my body.
Friends have gotten the flu after getting the shot so for me it also wasn't worth getting it.
I do want to mention that in our state the hospitals have required as condition of employment that all employees need to get the flu shot. If you refuse to get the shot you are not fired as far as I know but one volunteer won't be able to go to the hospital until May, when flu season is over.
I did have surgery a few months ago and when I go to the hospital for any bloodwork or tests I am required to wear a face mask so as not to transfer any germs to anyone. The odd part is that you need to walk into the hospital 10 - 30 feet to get the mask and by then you have breathed any germs into their air and it is busy travelling all over the space by the end of the day. When you leave the hospital they have a place to throw out the masks (in the hospital air space) so I don't see how this can help anyone since my germs have been busy contaminating the air at that point.
The good thing with the masks is that if I want to turn to a life of crime I have a nice collection of masks to use. I can even color them in if I want to get fancy with them!0 -
I have never gotten a flu shot and I never will.
Just a personal choice and I haven't gotten the flu yet
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No, and I haven't had the flu in 10 years or more. I've never had the flu shot. Never will get one if I can help it. Many people I know who do get them still get the flu.0
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I'm not asking who's wrong or right about getting the shot, just about whether it's right to ASK someone if they got it. for some reason HIPPAA or something like that comes to mind but since I'm a terrible "on the spot" responder, I'm just left dumb each time someone brings it up?
I think it's wrong to ask people questions like these. It means possibly putting someone on the spot in terms of discussing a private medical issue that they're not comfortable discussing with you. In the UK, free flu vaccines are given to people who are at high risk categories, and anyone who's not has to pay for a flu shot (unless there's some reason why the NHS decides to advise everyone to get it and give it free to everyone). So finances come into it too (and in other countries presumably there are similar issues regarding what insurance companies will or won't cover).
I'd put this question in the same category as "when are you two going to start having babies?" and "why aren't you breastfeeding your baby?" - these kinds of things are sometimes no more than a personal choice however frequently they're not, and the answers in some cases will involve issues that people are not comfortable sharing with anyone other than close friends and family members. Plus the fact that it's none of anyone else's business.
That's my opinion on all questions where the answer could be "I have a medical condition....." or some other highly personal thing.0 -
I get the flu shot every year through work.
I do not have a problem with those who decline the shot - they obviously have reasons.
The benefits of the vaccine outweigh the disadvantages for high risk populations.0 -
I'm poor and would have to rely on discounted/free shot programs in order to procure a flu shot. I'm also relatively young and healthy, so I figure best to leave those funds for people who need them more.0
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I wouldn't say it's rude of a person to ask, but its really non of their business either.
My only complaint with the "flu" is people who ***** that hey got a shot and still got the flu, or in reality they had a stomach bug. So many people think flu is sick and vomiting and really its flu = respitory illness0 -
I wouldn't say it's rude of a person to ask, but its really non of their business either.
My only complaint with the "flu" is people who ***** that hey got a shot and still got the flu, or in reality they had a stomach bug. So many people think flu is sick and vomiting and really its flu = respitory illness
Thank you!
BIG difference between stomach and respiratory flu.0 -
I got the flu shot and have been since I was diagnosed with Juvenile/Type I diabetes when I was fifteen...it's just the smart thing to do for someone with my health complications.
I also work in health care so...for the safety of those I work with and the patients I care for, I get the shot...
There are people out there who feel they shouldn't get one or that it may get them sick or that it's a conspiracy of some kind...I suppose they'll feel different when they're laid up, unable to work and miserable. I'll pass on fever and chills, thank you very much 0 -
I'm not very informed on this, so my question is truly not confrontational, just seeking information. How does a person's decision to not the get the flu shot put a baby or an elderly person at risk if the infant and elderly person have received their own flu shot?0
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Yes, I had my flu shot.0
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so what's a good answer when people are getting nosy? I asked on another post and someone said stfu, but I can't go around saying that to p.t.a. moms?
Either just say yes to appease them or say "I am sorry, but I don't feel comfortable sharing my health care choices." Personally I find it incredibly rude of them to even ask.
But if you don't get them, I urge you to reconsider. Your choice to NOT get one could cost another, a baby or an elderly person most likely, their lives.
I had a close friend who, whenever he would get the flu shot, ended up within a few days getting the flu..every time. And not just a mild case. Severe. He stopped getting them in junior high and afterwards, he either didn't get the flu or got a very mild case.
Forgive me for being pedantic. He didn't get the flu, he only had flu-like symptoms. The flu virus in vaccines is dead.
So I guess when the doctors would diagnose him with the flu..they were wrong. When I say severe, I mean severe. It wasn't you just end up at home and wait it out. It would get to the point his parents had to take him to the hospital.
And I'm not for or against..I'm just saying that some people may have good reasons.
Yes, the doctors were wrong if they said he had the flu. They likely did not know he had a flu shot or simply treated the symptoms to give him relief. Your friend, if he got severe symptoms, is one of those people with sensitivities that I mentioned in my first post. He should rely on herd immunity.
Or he picked it up waiting at the dr to get the shot or the days leading up. The shot IS dead virus.... It will not give you the flu. Will it protect you from the flu - sometimes. It's important to remember that the flu shot contains a very small sample of the strains that are thought to be widespread that year. There are still a massive amount of other strains that can and are passed around. There are still such misconceptions about the flu shot.
I urge anyone to research anything you put into your body. I am required to have one. My kids - will not get one.
It really isn't anyone else's business and I find the only people asking have usually got some strong opinion on one side or the other. Unless you're looking for a debate - it's probably easier to just say its none if their business0 -
I'm not very informed on this, so my question is truly not confrontational, just seeking information. How does a person's decision to not the get the flu shot put a baby or an elderly person at risk if the infant and elderly person have received their own flu shot?
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How dare you use logic to combat 'policing'?0 -
I'm not very informed on this, so my question is truly not confrontational, just seeking information. How does a person's decision to not the get the flu shot put a baby or an elderly person at risk if the infant and elderly person have received their own flu shot?
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How dare you use logic to combat 'policing'?
Yeah, except your ''logic'' ignores people who are still building up their immunity after a flu shot and those that can't legitimately get the flu shot.
Damnit, I told myself I wasn't going to get sucked back in.0 -
The flu vaccine contains Thimerosal, a mercury based preservative. Thimerosal is the same preservative that used to be in contact lens solution, but was later removed due to the widespread incidences of allergic reaction. The one time I used solution with Thimerosal in it, my eyes swelled shut for two days. I'm not about to put that same substance into my bloodstream via a flu shot.
The allergy can be familial and two of my sisters also have this same reaction. I'm not about to use my 16 year old son as a guinea pig to see if he does or doesn't share this genetic proclivity.
If and when they make a flu shot without this preservative (or any other MERCURY based preservative because that's the REAL problem) I might decide to allow my family to get the shot. Neither my son or I have ever gotten the vaccine--and we've never gotten the flu either.0
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