If its really about calories then explain to me why.....
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The more restrictive the diet, the worse the adherence
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You're right, I misspoke. I should have said lipolysis, not gluconeogenesis. I have to say, you're not making any sense. You're making some really weird assumptions that are completely illogical. Why would I need to eat an extra 300 calories? If we have the same BMR, we would have to eat the same number of calories to lose the same amount of weight. If I eat 300 calories less, but eat lower fat instead of lower carb, then my brain would be fueled by the glucose from the carbs, like your brain would be fueled by ketones.Spartan_Maker, you keep saying the metabolic advantage is that people on ketogenic diets can eat 300 less calories. How exactly is that a metabolic advantage? That's energy conservation. If I need 2000 calories to maintain weight on a non ketogenic diet, then based on your claim, I'd need 1700 calories to maintain weight on a ketogenic diet. So, holding protein constant, I would eat either 1500 calories on a non ketogenic diet, or 1200 calories on a ketogenic diet, and I'd lose the exact same amount of fat.
A metabolic advantage would mean I could eat the same number of calories on both diets, and lose more fat on the ketogenic diet. Looks like what you are stating is the exact opposite of that.
Also, another part you are leaving out, ketogenic diets are high fat. Gluconeogenesis doesn't burn stored body fat, it just uses the dietary fat you are eating to create ketones instead of carbs to create glucose. You are just substituting one energy source for another. Cut 300 calories from carbs, and add those 300 calories in protein and fat (to hold calories constant) and it doesn't change anything. This is what is meant by "no metabolic advantage."
I gave my definition of "metabolic advantage" above. I know the conventional definition of it; strike that, I know the limited definition put on it by people who use it opportunistically. You otherwise misunderstood what I wrote.
As for the paragraph beginning with "Also," gluconeogenesis has nothing to do with ketones. It's the process whereby glucose is created from glycerol and sometimes from deanimated protein.
If we both had identical BMRs, but I'm in ketosis, I largely fuel my brain with ketones from body fat and you have to eat 300 calories worth of carbs to get the same energy because your glycogen stores are limited. In this example, I'm producing enough BHB to take care of my brain; you're not.
In other words, I can feed my brain endogenously and you can't because you want to eat your carbs. Consequently, I can eat less, effortlessly, with no hypoglycemia, and reach my goal faster at the same time. This is all most people care about: no one cares about whether there is some negligible increase in resting energy expenditure on competing isocaloric diets.
Your entire argument is that if you eat less calories, you will lose more fat. Well no crap, if anyone eats less calories, they will lose more fat. As for hypoglycemia, only a diabetic person would have to worry about that. Otherwise, hypoglycemia generally doesn't happen, due to both lipolysis and gluconeogenesis (gluconeogenesis is specifically used to prevent hypoglycemia and maintain blood glucose stability.)
It really makes no difference if you eat carbs or not, unless you have a specific medical condition that requires it.0 -
Still wondering WHY if its calories in calories out that matter!! Why they are able to lose soo much faster??
I've done low carb, low cal, low whatever.....I actually found that after the first few days on low carb, I felt great and had lots of energy. I can't do that anymore because I find that I binge on carbs the second I go off it and gain everything I lost back.
To answer your question....I believe that when you are eating low carb, you ARE eating at a calorie deficit. Have you asked her what she is eating in a day and adding that calories up to see where she's at? Protein and Fat will satiate you much quicker than carbohydrates...especially if they are processed or sugary.
I found that after 2 weeks my weight loss would stall even though I was still in a 'fat burning' ketosis state. After that, I would be eating more to compensate for feeling deprived, therefore eliminating my calorie deficit. I felt good though. Not bloated and tired like I do when I eat a heavy carb meal. But, The only thing that has truly worked for me long term without feeling deprived has been a MODERATE calorie deficit with exercise.
I eat chocolate, I drink wine, and I'm not obsessed with weightloss anymore. I set my goals and trust the process.
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You're right, I misspoke. I should have said lipolysis, not gluconeogenesis. I have to say, you're not making any sense. You're making some really weird assumptions that are completely illogical. Why would I need to eat an extra 300 calories? If we have the same BMR, we would have to eat the same number of calories to lose the same amount of weight. If I eat 300 calories less, but eat lower fat instead of lower carb, then my brain would be fueled by the glucose from the carbs, like your brain would be fueled by ketones.Spartan_Maker, you keep saying the metabolic advantage is that people on ketogenic diets can eat 300 less calories. How exactly is that a metabolic advantage? That's energy conservation. If I need 2000 calories to maintain weight on a non ketogenic diet, then based on your claim, I'd need 1700 calories to maintain weight on a ketogenic diet. So, holding protein constant, I would eat either 1500 calories on a non ketogenic diet, or 1200 calories on a ketogenic diet, and I'd lose the exact same amount of fat.
A metabolic advantage would mean I could eat the same number of calories on both diets, and lose more fat on the ketogenic diet. Looks like what you are stating is the exact opposite of that.
Also, another part you are leaving out, ketogenic diets are high fat. Gluconeogenesis doesn't burn stored body fat, it just uses the dietary fat you are eating to create ketones instead of carbs to create glucose. You are just substituting one energy source for another. Cut 300 calories from carbs, and add those 300 calories in protein and fat (to hold calories constant) and it doesn't change anything. This is what is meant by "no metabolic advantage."
I gave my definition of "metabolic advantage" above. I know the conventional definition of it; strike that, I know the limited definition put on it by people who use it opportunistically. You otherwise misunderstood what I wrote.
As for the paragraph beginning with "Also," gluconeogenesis has nothing to do with ketones. It's the process whereby glucose is created from glycerol and sometimes from deanimated protein.
If we both had identical BMRs, but I'm in ketosis, I largely fuel my brain with ketones from body fat and you have to eat 300 calories worth of carbs to get the same energy because your glycogen stores are limited. In this example, I'm producing enough BHB to take care of my brain; you're not.
In other words, I can feed my brain endogenously and you can't because you want to eat your carbs. Consequently, I can eat less, effortlessly, with no hypoglycemia, and reach my goal faster at the same time. This is all most people care about: no one cares about whether there is some negligible increase in resting energy expenditure on competing isocaloric diets.
Your entire argument is that if you eat less calories, you will lose more fat. Well no crap, if anyone eats less calories, they will lose more fat. As for hypoglycemia, only a diabetic person would have to worry about that. Otherwise, hypoglycemia generally doesn't happen, due to both lipolysis and gluconeogenesis (gluconeogenesis is specifically used to prevent hypoglycemia and maintain blood glucose stability.)
It really makes no difference if you eat carbs or not, unless you have a specific medical condition that requires it.
You wrote: "Your entire argument is that if you eat less calories, you will lose more fat. Well, no crap ...."
Yes, that is the entire point, particularly for someone, like you, who argues that calories are what matters, not macronutrient percentages; however, you still don't seem to get it. You can't endogenously come up with 400 calories of glucose each day through gluconeogenesis for the purpose of fueling your brain. You'd go into ketosis long before that would happen. People in ketosis, however, can endogenously come up with 300 calories of BHB. If you didn't eat, how long do you think those glycogen stores would last in your muscle and liver before you were passed out on the floor? Your BHB levels will never get high enough while eating 100 grams or more of carbs to be able to take care of your brain. You're going to have to eat some carbs. I don't need to eat any dietary fat. I can use the fat on my body.
Simply put, just because you're burning fatty acids doesn't mean that you're producing enough BHB to take care of your brain. Therefore, you're going to have to feed your brain with carbs. A person in ketosis doesn't need to eat anything to keep the lights on.0 -
Spartan_Maker, you keep saying the metabolic advantage is that people on ketogenic diets can eat 300 less calories. How exactly is that a metabolic advantage? That's energy conservation. If I need 2000 calories to maintain weight on a non ketogenic diet, then based on your claim, I'd need 1700 calories to maintain weight on a ketogenic diet. So, holding protein constant, I would eat either 1500 calories on a non ketogenic diet, or 1200 calories on a ketogenic diet, and I'd lose the exact same amount of fat.
A metabolic advantage would mean I could eat the same number of calories on both diets, and lose more fat on the ketogenic diet. Looks like what you are stating is the exact opposite of that.
Also, another part you are leaving out, ketogenic diets are high fat. Gluconeogenesis doesn't burn stored body fat, it just uses the dietary fat you are eating to create ketones instead of carbs to create glucose. You are just substituting one energy source for another. Cut 300 calories from carbs, and add those 300 calories in protein and fat (to hold calories constant) and it doesn't change anything. This is what is meant by "no metabolic advantage."
I gave my definition of "metabolic advantage" above. I know the conventional definition of it; strike that, I know the limited definition put on it by people who use it opportunistically. You otherwise misunderstood what I wrote.
As for the paragraph beginning with "Also," gluconeogenesis has nothing to do with ketones. It's the process whereby glucose is created from glycerol and sometimes from deanimated protein.
If we both had identical BMRs, but I'm in ketosis, I largely fuel my brain with ketones from body fat and you have to eat 300 calories worth of carbs to get the same energy because your glycogen stores are limited. In this example, I'm producing enough BHB to take care of my brain; you're not.
In other words, I can feed my brain endogenously and you can't because you want to eat your carbs. Consequently, I can eat less, effortlessly, with no hypoglycemia, and reach my goal faster at the same time. This is all most people care about: no one cares about whether there is some negligible increase in resting energy expenditure on competing isocaloric diets.
You could reach your lower bf goal at the same rate if you ate more carbs and held protein and cals constant with your low carb/keto diet. Thus more flexibility with your diet and better adherence which is what really counts. The more restrictive the diet, the worse the adherence
This is reductionist thinking at its worst. First, it assumes that compliance is dependent on eating a greater variety of food rather than whether it's physiologically/biochemically easier. Second, a person wouldn't reach his or her goal at the same rate if he or she was required to eat more calories each day as a result of BHB levels not being high enough to fuel the brain. The brain can't be fueled by fatty acids. It can only be fueled by glucose or BHB + glucose. The body can't and won't sit around deanimating protein all day long when glycogen stores are emply. As I wrote above, how long do you expect glycogen stores to last in the absence of food?0 -
People who simply cut calories never produce enough beta-hydroxybutyrate to sufficiently fuel their brains. As a result, they are invariably subject to hypoglycemia and have to eat carbohydrates every time their glycogen runs low.
This makes no sense. "Have to eat carbs" has no business being interpreted as a bad thing. If you want to change your brain chemistry, that's fine, but don't pretend that's what everyone *ought* to be doing. Some of us enjoy getting our energy from carbs.
You shouldn't imply things that aren't there. I'm talking about biochemistry.
If your feelings are hurt by basic science, it's not my fault.
It's a matter of reason, not feelings. :flowerforyou:0 -
Spartan_Maker, you keep saying the metabolic advantage is that people on ketogenic diets can eat 300 less calories. How exactly is that a metabolic advantage? That's energy conservation. If I need 2000 calories to maintain weight on a non ketogenic diet, then based on your claim, I'd need 1700 calories to maintain weight on a ketogenic diet. So, holding protein constant, I would eat either 1500 calories on a non ketogenic diet, or 1200 calories on a ketogenic diet, and I'd lose the exact same amount of fat.
A metabolic advantage would mean I could eat the same number of calories on both diets, and lose more fat on the ketogenic diet. Looks like what you are stating is the exact opposite of that.
Also, another part you are leaving out, ketogenic diets are high fat. Gluconeogenesis doesn't burn stored body fat, it just uses the dietary fat you are eating to create ketones instead of carbs to create glucose. You are just substituting one energy source for another. Cut 300 calories from carbs, and add those 300 calories in protein and fat (to hold calories constant) and it doesn't change anything. This is what is meant by "no metabolic advantage."
I gave my definition of "metabolic advantage" above. I know the conventional definition of it; strike that, I know the limited definition put on it by people who use it opportunistically. You otherwise misunderstood what I wrote.
As for the paragraph beginning with "Also," gluconeogenesis has nothing to do with ketones. It's the process whereby glucose is created from glycerol and sometimes from deanimated protein.
If we both had identical BMRs, but I'm in ketosis, I largely fuel my brain with ketones from body fat and you have to eat 300 calories worth of carbs to get the same energy because your glycogen stores are limited. In this example, I'm producing enough BHB to take care of my brain; you're not.
In other words, I can feed my brain endogenously and you can't because you want to eat your carbs. Consequently, I can eat less, effortlessly, with no hypoglycemia, and reach my goal faster at the same time. This is all most people care about: no one cares about whether there is some negligible increase in resting energy expenditure on competing isocaloric diets.
You could reach your lower bf goal at the same rate if you ate more carbs and held protein and cals constant with your low carb/keto diet. Thus more flexibility with your diet and better adherence which is what really counts. The more restrictive the diet, the worse the adherence
This is reductionist thinking at its worst. First, it assumes that compliance is dependent on eating a greater variety of food rather than whether it's physiologically/biochemically easier. Second, a person wouldn't reach his or her goal at the same rate if he or she was required to eat more calories each day as a result of BHB levels not being high enough to fuel the brain. The brain can't be fueled by fatty acids. It can only be fueled by glucose or BHB + glucose. The body can't and won't sit around deanimating protein all day long when glycogen stores are emply. As I wrote above, how long do you expect glycogen stores to last in the absence of food?
First why would someone have to eat more cals each day, we aren't talking about starvation diets. A moderate deficit to your TDEE is all that is needed, in that case holding cals and protein constant it doesn't much matter if you go low or high carb. Is your avg person depleting glycogen stores? And once again who cares about how long they'd last in the absence of food, most people are eating everyday and not performing activities that would totally deplete their glycogen anyways0 -
One of the best things about these kind of threads is they help to easily identify people to put on ignore. :drinker:
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And once again who cares about how long they'd last in the absence of food, most people are eating everyday and not performing activities that would totally deplete their glycogen anyways
QFT again. Only professional athletes like marathon runners and cyclists have to concern themselves with the complete loss of glycogen.0 -
Still wondering WHY if its calories in calories out that matter!! Why they are able to lose soo much faster??
A lot of that weight is water weight. . Low carb diets, especially if ketosis is involved are very dehydrating0 -
All I want to know is WHY they (low carbers) lose at such a faster rate than calorie counters? That's it! Not opinions (with all due respect)
Obviously you are going to get opinions when you ask a question on here ?
They are eating at a calorie deficit, a large one to lose weight fast. If they are losing 2 lbs per week, they are eating 1000 calories under their TDEE per day. If they are losing 3 lbs per week, 1500 calories under/day0 -
Spartan_Maker, you keep saying the metabolic advantage is that people on ketogenic diets can eat 300 less calories. How exactly is that a metabolic advantage? That's energy conservation. If I need 2000 calories to maintain weight on a non ketogenic diet, then based on your claim, I'd need 1700 calories to maintain weight on a ketogenic diet. So, holding protein constant, I would eat either 1500 calories on a non ketogenic diet, or 1200 calories on a ketogenic diet, and I'd lose the exact same amount of fat.
A metabolic advantage would mean I could eat the same number of calories on both diets, and lose more fat on the ketogenic diet. Looks like what you are stating is the exact opposite of that.
Also, another part you are leaving out, ketogenic diets are high fat. Gluconeogenesis doesn't burn stored body fat, it just uses the dietary fat you are eating to create ketones instead of carbs to create glucose. You are just substituting one energy source for another. Cut 300 calories from carbs, and add those 300 calories in protein and fat (to hold calories constant) and it doesn't change anything. This is what is meant by "no metabolic advantage."
I gave my definition of "metabolic advantage" above. I know the conventional definition of it; strike that, I know the limited definition put on it by people who use it opportunistically. You otherwise misunderstood what I wrote.
As for the paragraph beginning with "Also," gluconeogenesis has nothing to do with ketones. It's the process whereby glucose is created from glycerol and sometimes from deanimated protein.
If we both had identical BMRs, but I'm in ketosis, I largely fuel my brain with ketones from body fat and you have to eat 300 calories worth of carbs to get the same energy because your glycogen stores are limited. In this example, I'm producing enough BHB to take care of my brain; you're not.
In other words, I can feed my brain endogenously and you can't because you want to eat your carbs. Consequently, I can eat less, effortlessly, with no hypoglycemia, and reach my goal faster at the same time. This is all most people care about: no one cares about whether there is some negligible increase in resting energy expenditure on competing isocaloric diets.
You could reach your lower bf goal at the same rate if you ate more carbs and held protein and cals constant with your low carb/keto diet. Thus more flexibility with your diet and better adherence which is what really counts. The more restrictive the diet, the worse the adherence
This is reductionist thinking at its worst. First, it assumes that compliance is dependent on eating a greater variety of food rather than whether it's physiologically/biochemically easier. Second, a person wouldn't reach his or her goal at the same rate if he or she was required to eat more calories each day as a result of BHB levels not being high enough to fuel the brain. The brain can't be fueled by fatty acids. It can only be fueled by glucose or BHB + glucose. The body can't and won't sit around deanimating protein all day long when glycogen stores are emply. As I wrote above, how long do you expect glycogen stores to last in the absence of food?
First why would someone have to eat more cals each day, we aren't talking about starvation diets. A moderate deficit to your TDEE is all that is needed, in that case holding cals and protein constant it doesn't much matter if you go low or high carb. Is your avg person depleting glycogen stores? And once again who cares about how long they'd last in the absence of food, most people are eating everyday and not performing activities that would totally deplete their glycogen anyways
No one is talking about a "starvation diet." The point is that a person on a ketogenic diet can more easily maintain an aggressive calorie deficit with very little consequence.0 -
Spartan_Maker, you keep saying the metabolic advantage is that people on ketogenic diets can eat 300 less calories. How exactly is that a metabolic advantage? That's energy conservation. If I need 2000 calories to maintain weight on a non ketogenic diet, then based on your claim, I'd need 1700 calories to maintain weight on a ketogenic diet. So, holding protein constant, I would eat either 1500 calories on a non ketogenic diet, or 1200 calories on a ketogenic diet, and I'd lose the exact same amount of fat.
A metabolic advantage would mean I could eat the same number of calories on both diets, and lose more fat on the ketogenic diet. Looks like what you are stating is the exact opposite of that.
Also, another part you are leaving out, ketogenic diets are high fat. Gluconeogenesis doesn't burn stored body fat, it just uses the dietary fat you are eating to create ketones instead of carbs to create glucose. You are just substituting one energy source for another. Cut 300 calories from carbs, and add those 300 calories in protein and fat (to hold calories constant) and it doesn't change anything. This is what is meant by "no metabolic advantage."
I gave my definition of "metabolic advantage" above. I know the conventional definition of it; strike that, I know the limited definition put on it by people who use it opportunistically. You otherwise misunderstood what I wrote.
As for the paragraph beginning with "Also," gluconeogenesis has nothing to do with ketones. It's the process whereby glucose is created from glycerol and sometimes from deanimated protein.
If we both had identical BMRs, but I'm in ketosis, I largely fuel my brain with ketones from body fat and you have to eat 300 calories worth of carbs to get the same energy because your glycogen stores are limited. In this example, I'm producing enough BHB to take care of my brain; you're not.
In other words, I can feed my brain endogenously and you can't because you want to eat your carbs. Consequently, I can eat less, effortlessly, with no hypoglycemia, and reach my goal faster at the same time. This is all most people care about: no one cares about whether there is some negligible increase in resting energy expenditure on competing isocaloric diets.
You could reach your lower bf goal at the same rate if you ate more carbs and held protein and cals constant with your low carb/keto diet. Thus more flexibility with your diet and better adherence which is what really counts. The more restrictive the diet, the worse the adherence
This is reductionist thinking at its worst. First, it assumes that compliance is dependent on eating a greater variety of food rather than whether it's physiologically/biochemically easier. Second, a person wouldn't reach his or her goal at the same rate if he or she was required to eat more calories each day as a result of BHB levels not being high enough to fuel the brain. The brain can't be fueled by fatty acids. It can only be fueled by glucose or BHB + glucose. The body can't and won't sit around deanimating protein all day long when glycogen stores are emply. As I wrote above, how long do you expect glycogen stores to last in the absence of food?
First why would someone have to eat more cals each day, we aren't talking about starvation diets. A moderate deficit to your TDEE is all that is needed, in that case holding cals and protein constant it doesn't much matter if you go low or high carb. Is your avg person depleting glycogen stores? And once again who cares about how long they'd last in the absence of food, most people are eating everyday and not performing activities that would totally deplete their glycogen anyways
No one is talking about a "starvation diet." The point is that a person on a ketogenic diet can more easily maintain an aggressive calorie deficit with very little consequence.
Again, you have lost sight of reason. Most people adhere better to a diet that includes their preferences than to a diet that restricts food that they find enjoyable.0 -
Spartan_Maker, you keep saying the metabolic advantage is that people on ketogenic diets can eat 300 less calories. How exactly is that a metabolic advantage? That's energy conservation. If I need 2000 calories to maintain weight on a non ketogenic diet, then based on your claim, I'd need 1700 calories to maintain weight on a ketogenic diet. So, holding protein constant, I would eat either 1500 calories on a non ketogenic diet, or 1200 calories on a ketogenic diet, and I'd lose the exact same amount of fat.
A metabolic advantage would mean I could eat the same number of calories on both diets, and lose more fat on the ketogenic diet. Looks like what you are stating is the exact opposite of that.
Also, another part you are leaving out, ketogenic diets are high fat. Gluconeogenesis doesn't burn stored body fat, it just uses the dietary fat you are eating to create ketones instead of carbs to create glucose. You are just substituting one energy source for another. Cut 300 calories from carbs, and add those 300 calories in protein and fat (to hold calories constant) and it doesn't change anything. This is what is meant by "no metabolic advantage."
I gave my definition of "metabolic advantage" above. I know the conventional definition of it; strike that, I know the limited definition put on it by people who use it opportunistically. You otherwise misunderstood what I wrote.
As for the paragraph beginning with "Also," gluconeogenesis has nothing to do with ketones. It's the process whereby glucose is created from glycerol and sometimes from deanimated protein.
If we both had identical BMRs, but I'm in ketosis, I largely fuel my brain with ketones from body fat and you have to eat 300 calories worth of carbs to get the same energy because your glycogen stores are limited. In this example, I'm producing enough BHB to take care of my brain; you're not.
In other words, I can feed my brain endogenously and you can't because you want to eat your carbs. Consequently, I can eat less, effortlessly, with no hypoglycemia, and reach my goal faster at the same time. This is all most people care about: no one cares about whether there is some negligible increase in resting energy expenditure on competing isocaloric diets.
You could reach your lower bf goal at the same rate if you ate more carbs and held protein and cals constant with your low carb/keto diet. Thus more flexibility with your diet and better adherence which is what really counts. The more restrictive the diet, the worse the adherence
This is reductionist thinking at its worst. First, it assumes that compliance is dependent on eating a greater variety of food rather than whether it's physiologically/biochemically easier. Second, a person wouldn't reach his or her goal at the same rate if he or she was required to eat more calories each day as a result of BHB levels not being high enough to fuel the brain. The brain can't be fueled by fatty acids. It can only be fueled by glucose or BHB + glucose. The body can't and won't sit around deanimating protein all day long when glycogen stores are emply. As I wrote above, how long do you expect glycogen stores to last in the absence of food?
First why would someone have to eat more cals each day, we aren't talking about starvation diets. A moderate deficit to your TDEE is all that is needed, in that case holding cals and protein constant it doesn't much matter if you go low or high carb. Is your avg person depleting glycogen stores? And once again who cares about how long they'd last in the absence of food, most people are eating everyday and not performing activities that would totally deplete their glycogen anyways
No one is talking about a "starvation diet." The point is that a person on a ketogenic diet can more easily maintain an aggressive calorie deficit with very little consequence.
Again, you have lost sight of reason. Most people adhere better to a diet that includes their preferences than to a diet that restricts food that they find enjoyable.
That's rich. Literally, every single one of your posts has been a non-sequitur.0 -
Now I know I'm openning a can of worms here.
Some people lose weight from a carb reduction because of disorder, disease, or hormone inbalance. An example is PCOS, on low carb diets, PCOS people have more success losing weight. This is because the PCOS people's bodies don't process carbs as engery very well. I suspect that there are many other diseases, disorders, and/or hormone inbalances that do the same. There are many people that are not diagnosed too. I recommend anyone who truly does everything they can right and doesn't lose wieght to see a doctor, to see if prehaps there is a medical reason why.0 -
Now I know I'm openning a can of worms here.
Some people lose weight from a carb reduction because of disorder, disease, or hormone inbalance. An example is PCOS, on low carb diets, PCOS people have more success losing weight. This is because the PCOS people's bodies don't process carbs as engery very well. I suspect that there are many other diseases, disorders, and/or hormone inbalances that do the same. There are many people that are not diagnosed too. I recommend anyone who truly does everything they can right and doesn't lose wieght to see a doctor, to see if prehaps there is a medical reason why.
Reactive hypoglycemia is another. Lots of people suffer from it and don't even know it.0 -
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Still wondering WHY if its calories in calories out that matter!! Why they are able to lose soo much faster??
I think a lot of people on low carb diets or other diets where they are restrictive with certain food groups are eating in a calorie deficit....hence the weight loss. Maybe they are not counting calories...but at the end of the day they're probably netting a huge deficit.0 -
Low carb diets don't work for everyone. It is important to state that. What works for one, doesn't work another. I love carbs, and well going without them or really restricting them would make changing my life style to one that is healthy unreasonable and I would fail. My husband has no issues. He would rather eat chicken and fish than anything else. I would rather have pasta.
Also, I tried a high protein low carb diet once.... After 2 weeks yes I had lost about 7 pounds, but I also feinted while holding my little girl. Luckily I didn't hurt my baby, but I did break my ankle, and elbow. At the hospital I was I need to eat more carbs. So it is important before starting any restrictive diet to see a physician. I should have, but didn't and paid the price.0 -
That's rich. Literally, every single one of your posts has been a non-sequitur.
Maybe it seems that way to you because of your aforementioned struggles. :laugh:0
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