Cardio doesn't burn fat!!!

All studies done on aerobics show that they don't significantly accelerate fat loss than dieting alone. Why then whenever someone wants to lose fat or "get abs" they jump on the elliptical and start swinging and sweating thinking it's a great idea?? The only benefit is basically allowing you to eat more food. That's it. I doubt they're doing it for the cardiovascular benefits either. So if by the end of the day you're at a caloric deficit, you will lose the same amount of fat with or without cardio.

Weight lifting on the other hand has been shown to accelerate fat loss by up to 50% than dieting alone or dieting and cardio. I really genuinely feel sad when I see someone doing an hour or two of cardio on my news feed, and it's for all the wrong reasons..
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  • Xiaolongbao
    Xiaolongbao Posts: 854 Member
    You seem pretty confused to me. I'm not knocking weight lifting but I don't understand why people like you feel the need to knock cardio either. It has MANY benefits. One of which is it allows you to eat more food. Others include improved health, toning (yes that's right people cardio can build muscle too!) It also leads to general feelings of well being in many of us. For me a half an hour swim or a run outside and I feel much much better than after time spent indoors picking up heavy things and putting them down again.
    So if by the end of the day you're at a caloric deficit, you will lose the same amount of fat with or without cardio.

    Yes but cardio helps you to increase your calorie deficit.

    Exercise is good. Weight lifting is good. Cardio is good.
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    If I recall.....moving your legs requires muscle...so cardio does engage them...js
  • arc918
    arc918 Posts: 2,037 Member
    can't we all just get along
  • matt2442
    matt2442 Posts: 1,259 Member
    You seem pretty confused to me. I'm not knocking weight lifting but I don't understand why people like you feel the need to knock cardio either. It has MANY benefits. One of which is it allows you to eat more food. Others include improved health, toning (yes that's right people cardio can build muscle too!) It also leads to general feelings of well being in many of us. For me a half an hour swim or a run outside and I feel much much better than after time spent indoors picking up heavy things and putting them down again.
    So if by the end of the day you're at a caloric deficit, you will lose the same amount of fat with or without cardio.

    Yes but cardio helps you to increase your calorie deficit.

    Exercise is good. Weight lifting is good. Cardio is good.

    I think you missed the point of his post. You just repeated everything that he said.
  • actually there should be a mixture of cardio and weight training, i'm over 200lbs if weight training were my only form of exercise i'd look like a beefed up man. no thanks :indifferent:
  • quirkytizzy
    quirkytizzy Posts: 4,052 Member
    All studies done on aerobics show that they don't significantly accelerate fat loss than dieting alone. Why then whenever someone wants to lose fat or "get abs" they jump on the elliptical and start swinging and sweating thinking it's a great idea?? The only benefit is basically allowing you to eat more food. That's it. I doubt they're doing it for the cardiovascular benefits either. So if by the end of the day you're at a caloric deficit, you will lose the same amount of fat with or without cardio.

    Weight lifting on the other hand has been shown to accelerate fat loss by up to 50% than dieting alone or dieting and cardio. I really genuinely feel sad when I see someone doing an hour or two of cardio on my news feed, and it's for all the wrong reasons..

    Most of us are or were fat people who didn't move at all. Cardio ****ing rocks the hell out of not doing anything.
  • Game8
    Game8 Posts: 442
    actually there should be a mixture of cardio and weight training, i'm over 200lbs if weight training were my only form of exercise i'd look like a beefed up man. no thanks :indifferent:

    No you would not given that you don't eat like one.
  • Xiaolongbao
    Xiaolongbao Posts: 854 Member
    I think you missed the point of his post. You just repeated everything that he said.

    I think you missed the point of my post. That's why I said he seems confused. Why feel sad about people doing cardio when you know it has benefits.
  • krystonite
    krystonite Posts: 553 Member
    I enjoy both cardio and strength training. However, as another poster has said - you seem confused.

    And I'm one of those who actually enjoy cardio BECAUSE of the cardiovascular benefits. I love the way my breathing feels after a good run. My entire respiratory system feels clear and healthy for the day. I love the sound of my heart trying to pump out as much blood as it can.

    I also run because I get a high from it. As a recovering drug addict, the high I get from a good run is paramount to staying sober.

    So knock on cardio all you want, but knock on it to yourself, please.
  • benol1
    benol1 Posts: 867 Member
    All studies done on aerobics show that they don't significantly accelerate fat loss than dieting alone. Why then whenever someone wants to lose fat or "get abs" they jump on the elliptical and start swinging and sweating thinking it's a great idea?? The only benefit is basically allowing you to eat more food. That's it. I doubt they're doing it for the cardiovascular benefits either. So if by the end of the day you're at a caloric deficit, you will lose the same amount of fat with or without cardio.

    Weight lifting on the other hand has been shown to accelerate fat loss by up to 50% than dieting alone or dieting and cardio. I really genuinely feel sad when I see someone doing an hour or two of cardio on my news feed, and it's for all the wrong reasons..

    An assertion made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
  • krystonite
    krystonite Posts: 553 Member
    All studies done on aerobics show that they don't significantly accelerate fat loss than dieting alone. Why then whenever someone wants to lose fat or "get abs" they jump on the elliptical and start swinging and sweating thinking it's a great idea?? The only benefit is basically allowing you to eat more food. That's it. I doubt they're doing it for the cardiovascular benefits either. So if by the end of the day you're at a caloric deficit, you will lose the same amount of fat with or without cardio.

    Weight lifting on the other hand has been shown to accelerate fat loss by up to 50% than dieting alone or dieting and cardio. I really genuinely feel sad when I see someone doing an hour or two of cardio on my news feed, and it's for all the wrong reasons..

    An assertion made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

    That's a good line. I'm gonna have to remember that one.
  • MallorieGreiner
    MallorieGreiner Posts: 135 Member
    I do cardio so when zombies or a kidnapper chases after me, I can out run them. Seems beneficial to me.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    actually there should be a mixture of cardio and weight training, i'm over 200lbs if weight training were my only form of exercise i'd look like a beefed up man. no thanks :indifferent:

    Untrue. You lack the testosterone to bulk, especially when you have a caloric deficit. People don`t accidentally look like fitness models.
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    All studies done on aerobics show that they don't significantly accelerate fat loss than dieting alone. Why then whenever someone wants to lose fat or "get abs" they jump on the elliptical and start swinging and sweating thinking it's a great idea?? The only benefit is basically allowing you to eat more food. That's it. I doubt they're doing it for the cardiovascular benefits either. So if by the end of the day you're at a caloric deficit, you will lose the same amount of fat with or without cardio.

    Weight lifting on the other hand has been shown to accelerate fat loss by up to 50% than dieting alone or dieting and cardio. I really genuinely feel sad when I see someone doing an hour or two of cardio on my news feed, and it's for all the wrong reasons..

    So, you don't do any cardio? At all?
  • Game8
    Game8 Posts: 442
    I enjoy both cardio and strength training. However, as another poster has said - you seem confused.

    And I'm one of those who actually enjoy cardio BECAUSE of the cardiovascular benefits. I love the way my breathing feels after a good run. My entire respiratory system feels clear and healthy for the day. I love the sound of my heart trying to pump out as much blood as it can.

    I also run because I get a high from it. As a recovering drug addict, the high I get from a good run is paramount to staying sober.

    So knock on cardio all you want, but knock on it to yourself, please.

    It's good you enjoy cardio. But I think 90% of people look at it as torture. Ask any random overweight person at your gym how "high" they're feeling while they huff and puff on the treadmill, their facial expression should give you an idea.
  • leighdiane91
    leighdiane91 Posts: 225 Member
    my father died at 54 from a heart attack... his father died at 45 from a heart attack.... so yes, I do cardio because it is good for my heart. I would like to live a little longer than they did, thanks.
  • ValerieMomof2
    ValerieMomof2 Posts: 530 Member
    I was fine with what you posted until you basically assumed that people who jump on the elliptical most likely aren't doing it for cardiovascular benefits. How come you assume this? Before I continue, I like weights and cardio. I NEED the cardio for the cardiovascular benefits because of horrible family history. I don't have a problem with anyone doing a workout they feel is best. I have a problem with the assumptions. So what if people do cardio to eat more so they can be at a deficit. I would rather see someone in the gym doing something than sitting on their butt watching. So do your thing and let others do theirs ;)


    Edited to add (because other's commented while I was): I know tons of people who work out and none of them hate the cardio (and this includes the overweight people I do classes with) You must not know the right people.
  • tacguy
    tacguy Posts: 196
    1:Cardiovascular fitness
    2: Muscular strength
    3: Muscular endurance
    4:Flexibility

    To be truly "fit", a program that addresses all of the four components of fitness is desirable..
    IMHO.
  • krystonite
    krystonite Posts: 553 Member
    I enjoy both cardio and strength training. However, as another poster has said - you seem confused.

    And I'm one of those who actually enjoy cardio BECAUSE of the cardiovascular benefits. I love the way my breathing feels after a good run. My entire respiratory system feels clear and healthy for the day. I love the sound of my heart trying to pump out as much blood as it can.

    I also run because I get a high from it. As a recovering drug addict, the high I get from a good run is paramount to staying sober.

    So knock on cardio all you want, but knock on it to yourself, please.

    It's good you enjoy cardio. But I think 90% of people look at it as torture. Ask any random overweight person at your gym how "high" they're feeling while they huff and puff on the treadmill, their facial expression should give you an idea.

    Oh, I don't do gyms. My gym is outside and using my own body. I don't think I could handle the influx of differentiating opinions on how things "should" be done.
  • Crankstr
    Crankstr Posts: 3,958 Member
    actually there should be a mixture of cardio and weight training, i'm over 200lbs if weight training were my only form of exercise i'd look like a beefed up man. no thanks :indifferent:

    Untrue. You lack the testosterone to bulk, especially when you have a caloric deficit. People don`t accidentally look like fitness models.

    exactly
  • Game8
    Game8 Posts: 442
    So, you don't do any cardio? At all?


    Only to warm up and lubricate my joints before weight lifting.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    The only benefit is basically allowing you to eat more food. That's it.


    ..... Health?
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    I'm not trying to lose fat. I do cardio, strength training, and stretching to have the strength, endurance and flexibility for the kinds of sports that I like. I can tell the difference, when I'm climbing around caves, if I've been interval training, compared to just taking long walks.
  • GamerLady
    GamerLady Posts: 359 Member
    So, we're in the third grade again? Mines better than yours....Ugh...
    *shakes her head*
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    So, you don't do any cardio? At all?


    Only to warm up and lubricate my joints before weight lifting.

    Aren't you going to require cardiovascular endurance in basic training?
  • momof2TONI
    momof2TONI Posts: 112 Member
    I do cardio so when zombies or a kidnapper chases after me, I can out run them. Seems beneficial to me.



    hahaha.... love this!!
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
    I enjoy both cardio and strength training. However, as another poster has said - you seem confused.

    And I'm one of those who actually enjoy cardio BECAUSE of the cardiovascular benefits. I love the way my breathing feels after a good run. My entire respiratory system feels clear and healthy for the day. I love the sound of my heart trying to pump out as much blood as it can.

    I also run because I get a high from it. As a recovering drug addict, the high I get from a good run is paramount to staying sober.

    So knock on cardio all you want, but knock on it to yourself, please.

    It's good you enjoy cardio. But I think 90% of people look at it as torture. Ask any random overweight person at your gym how "high" they're feeling while they huff and puff on the treadmill, their facial expression should give you an idea.

    I find myself being that special snowflake alot on here for some reason..... but I truly enjoy endurance cardio, yes the whole huffing and puffing thing, yep love that.... I understand the concept of what you are saying but coming from being home bound for over 2 years and eating myself to 560 lbs. and now 46 months later down 300+ lbs, and spite bad knee's actually enjoying cardio (swimming, elliptical, rowing, whatever it may be) I definitely am not going to give it up anytime soon... Oh and I too enjoy picking stuff up and putting it down 3 to 4 times a week.
  • Dragon67
    Dragon67 Posts: 123 Member
    I do cardio so when zombies or a kidnapper chases after me, I can out run them. Seems beneficial to me.


    like !!!!! this made me smile :laugh:
  • Game8
    Game8 Posts: 442
    I was fine with what you posted until you basically assumed that people who jump on the elliptical most likely aren't doing it for cardiovascular benefits. How come you assume this? Before I continue, I like weights and cardio. I NEED the cardio for the cardiovascular benefits because of horrible family history. I don't have a problem with anyone doing a workout they feel is best. I have a problem with the assumptions. So what if people do cardio to eat more so they can be at a deficit. I would rather see someone in the gym doing something than sitting on their butt watching. So do your thing and let others do theirs ;)


    The title of this post is the main thing I'm trying to say. Nothing more, nothing less.
  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    i'm down 80 llbs, which equals exactly my cardio calories burned plus my TDEE deficit. so according to the spreadsheet that i have been keeping track of every calorie consumed and burned, the cardio i did burned a whole lot of fat.