Cardio doesn't burn fat!!!
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i will say ive done cuts before where i done 0 cardio and it took me nearly 20 weeks to get a decent 6 pack and this time ive been cutting for 2 weeks and im dropping a TON more weight than i did before, my strength is staying the same and i do 20 - 30 mins jogging every morning on a empty stomach, do what the hell you want, at the end of the day if you put the work into something and you want to achieve something so bad you will achieve it, no matter how you go around doing it0
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Obviously. :happy:I once had a shirtless young man tell me how to best manage menopause.:bigsmile:
I believe this would only be good if he had abs and was holding bacon, then he would be worth something.0 -
After reading all these posts, I think the point he was "trying" to make was at the end of the day deficit is a deficit if you have a deficit you will lose weight, but muscle burns more calories than fat does, Sooo by lifting and gaining more muscle you will there for burn more fat...... But you will still burn fat doing only cardio just not as quickly........ Right..... well at least that's what I got out of it. Now lets all have a protein shake and try to get along lol :bigsmile:0
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OP: your failure, it seems, was to ASSume everyone had the same goals you have.0
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I agree with the OP. Cardio does zilch for burning fat. Diet is the key thing for fat loss. Too many people think because the do cardio, they have a golden ticket to eat junk food.
It's like a mutual support group of shirtless people...0 -
you guys are totally ruining my attempt to hijack this thread with bacon.0
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The point is to burn calories, right? Most people get more banc for their buck doing cardio. Even hijgh MR circuit training is a cardio workout. The purpose of cardio is CR fitness.The more fit in the CR area a person is, the better able thy are to burn calories. If the heart isn't healthy you stand a chance of dieting younger. Buff but not healthy? A balanced program of strength, cardio, and flexibility insures better calorie burn in the long run. Most of the P90-X workouts combine elements of all three exercise types and a nutrition plan. All Beach-Body workouts do. That is why they are so successful. All successful programs include the four elements resistance, CR, flexibility, and nutrition.0
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Does cardio burn cake?0
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I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.0
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you guys are totally ruining my attempt to hijack this thread with bacon.
Sorry. It's because I'm vegetarian.
YOU SHOULD ALL STOP EATING DEAD ANIMALS.
There you go. Now his trolling really is complete.0 -
Weight lifting on the other hand has been shown to accelerate fat loss by up to 50% than dieting alone or dieting and cardio.
I'm intrigued as I haven't come across this in my research thus far. I'd love to read the study. Can you send it to me? Thanks!0 -
Does cardio burn cake?
No, but eating cake burns calories because you're engaging your jaw muscles by chewing.0 -
http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archives/2012/12/aerobic-vs-resistance-training-for-fat-loss.php
There are a lot of flaws in the Duke study.
First of all I agree about the Duke study BUT
"I believe, and actually the absolute data seems to confirm it, that resistance training plus aerobic training together trumps either type of training by itself. The study authors themselves point out that each type of training has its own set of benefits. But apparently, factoring in the increased time commitment of doing both, they judged in favor of aerobics only as the preferred option for decreasing fat mass."
Even the website you're quoting (which is hardly unbiased) would not agree with the OP. So whichever way you look at it discounting cardo as having no value apart from allowing you to eat more is pretty idiotic.
I agree with a combination of strength training and cardio. All I was trying to point out is that the Duke study shouldn't be viewed as conclusive.0 -
http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archives/2012/12/aerobic-vs-resistance-training-for-fat-loss.php
There are a lot of flaws in the Duke study.
First of all I agree about the Duke study BUT
"I believe, and actually the absolute data seems to confirm it, that resistance training plus aerobic training together trumps either type of training by itself. The study authors themselves point out that each type of training has its own set of benefits. But apparently, factoring in the increased time commitment of doing both, they judged in favor of aerobics only as the preferred option for decreasing fat mass."
Even the website you're quoting (which is hardly unbiased) would not agree with the OP. So whichever way you look at it discounting cardo as having no value apart from allowing you to eat more is pretty idiotic.
I agree with you. Although, I think if a person who is extremely overweight has an option then cardio is their best bet considering they're probably going to give up with the progress that weight lifting shows alone. Now for those closer to their goal (such as myself) a program dedicated to weights and some cardio makes more sense. I don't think I'd cut cardio out completely though, there's something to be said about be in cardiovascular shape.0 -
Wrong about the junk food? What do you mean? Cardio can be used as a calorie reduction but in the grand scheme of things, it's not that much.
Wrong.I agree with the OP. Cardio does zilch for burning fat. Diet is the key thing for fat loss. Too many people think because the do cardio, they have a golden ticket to eat junk food.
Cardio can be used as a means of calorie reduction. You can only reduce calories so much from your diet. Regarding the junk food comment. You're wrong again.
Now cardio does have it's place. If you are doing cardio for the heal benefits or training for a sport, then do cardio.0 -
A common theme around here.
I once had a shirtless young man tell me how to best manage menopause.:bigsmile:
That wouldn't help my hot flashes :blushing:0 -
I do cardio so when zombies or a kidnapper chases after me, I can out run them. Seems beneficial to me.
I do it for the zombies.0 -
you guys are totally ruining my attempt to hijack this thread with bacon.
Sorry. It's because I'm vegetarian.
YOU SHOULD ALL STOP EATING DEAD ANIMALS.
There you go. Now his trolling really is complete.
I saw a post earlier that said there was veggie bacon... so......
and it was on the inet so it must be true...
thank you for your support lol0 -
to get ripped or get to a real low bf% cardio is totally irrelevant, you can get to to the body weight you want with diet and weight lifting alone, however cardio imo lets you be more flexible with your diet and it definitely speeds up the process of fat loss, if i didnt enjoy hiit cardio i wouldnt do it, but i do so i do it
actually you can get to any bodyweight you want without ANY cardio or lifting.0 -
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I do understand cardio seems to be a sensitive topic around here, let's just discuss another topic until everyone calms down.0 -
There is no such thing as junk food.
Wrong about the junk food? What do you mean? Cardio can be used as a calorie reduction but in the grand scheme of things, it's not that much.
Wrong.I agree with the OP. Cardio does zilch for burning fat. Diet is the key thing for fat loss. Too many people think because the do cardio, they have a golden ticket to eat junk food.
Cardio can be used as a means of calorie reduction. You can only reduce calories so much from your diet. Regarding the junk food comment. You're wrong again.
Now cardio does have it's place. If you are doing cardio for the heal benefits or training for a sport, then do cardio.0 -
LOL! I admit, I didn't read either one of these but it made me laugh because it's Duke University vs Burn the Fat Blog...Hahahahahaha!0 -
Try being a chick for a week, being allowed to eat say 1200 calories (i.e. that means eating sweet bugger all in the way of food.. even healthy food).. then try being an active chick.. It sucks!! It's not about being able to eat junk food, its about being able to eat 3 meals a day without living on lettuce.
I burnt over 1500 calories mountain biking today.. will probably eat back about 500 of those so I don't starve tomorrow.. BUT I will still lose weight this week.. I do cardio 3 - 4 times a week and weight lifting twice a week, but have found the weight loss has increased hugely since I added more cardio.
Exercise burns calories.. if you haven't eaten those calories, then they are taken from fat stores and to a smaller degree from muscle mass.. but this isn't an issue if you continue to weight train.0 -
Does cardio burn cake?
i hear you can light a cigarette with it0 -
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I would also like to see any proof God exists if anyone cares to discuss the available evidence. I do understand cardio seems to be a sensitive topic around here, let's just discuss another topic until everyone calms down.
You, most likely, just gave cause for this thread to be deleted.0 -
LOL! I admit, I didn't read either one of these but it made me laugh because it's Duke University vs Burn the Fat Blog...Hahahahahaha!
I think it would be worth your time to read them both. People like to hold university studies in high regards without taking a look at the parameter or lack thereof. Tom Venuto only points out where the Duke study made mistakes.0 -
Many people seem to just enjoy cardio in a sadistic type of way so much that they miss the whole point of my post. Let me restate it again in a way a grade 5 kid would hopefully understand:
If by the end of the day you're at an x net calorie intake, it will not make a difference in terms of body composition whether or not you had done cardio that day. HOWEVER, if you do weight lifting while still at that same x net calorie intake, you will end up with less fat, more muscle than if you had not.
In a sadistic type of way? Do you mean masochistic? I don't know how them doing cardio gives them pleasure if they are being sadistic because they aren't causing anyone else pain..just themselves.
Not being a grammar nazi or anything...just trying to verify what you meant to make sure I'm understanding everything you are saying. :flowerforyou:0 -
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Try being a chick for a week, being allowed to eat say 1200 calories (i.e. that means eating sweet bugger all in the way of food.. even healthy food).. then try being an active chick.. It sucks!! It's not about being able to eat junk food, its about being able to eat 3 meals a day without living on lettuce.
I burnt over 1500 calories mountain biking today.. will probably eat back about 500 of those so I don't starve tomorrow.. BUT I will still lose weight this week.. I do cardio 3 - 4 times a week and weight lifting twice a week, but have found the weight loss has increased hugely since I added more cardio.
Exercise burns calories.. if you haven't eaten those calories, then they are taken from fat stores and to a smaller degree from muscle mass.. but this isn't an issue if you continue to weight train.
Your post really made me think. Cardio does seem like borderline eating disorder in a way too, burning calories and then eating them. It's like binging and purging, except you do the purging before the binging lol0 -
All studies done on aerobics show that they don't significantly accelerate fat loss than dieting alone. Why then whenever someone wants to lose fat or "get abs" they jump on the elliptical and start swinging and sweating thinking it's a great idea?? The only benefit is basically allowing you to eat more food. That's it. I doubt they're doing it for the cardiovascular benefits either. So if by the end of the day you're at a caloric deficit, you will lose the same amount of fat with or without cardio.
Weight lifting on the other hand has been shown to accelerate fat loss by up to 50% than dieting alone or dieting and cardio. I really genuinely feel sad when I see someone doing an hour or two of cardio on my news feed, and it's for all the wrong reasons..
epic fail. sorry dude.0
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