Eating Pop Tarts and ice cream daily.
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I could only get strawberry, apple or chocolate pop tarts at tesco AND they didn't have the really good ice cream
Why is life so unfair. :sad:
There, there. Soothe yourself with some Dairy Milk (assuming you've saved space in your daily calories, which I know you will have!). I've got some Thorntons chocs for later - saving them for post-dinner with a nice cup of tea.
I still got strawberry ones and the second best ice cream :laugh: I'm willing to compromise in this case.
*whispers* I don't like dairy milk * runs away*0 -
I could only get strawberry, apple or chocolate pop tarts at tesco AND they didn't have the really good ice cream
Why is life so unfair. :sad:
You could make your own I guess? All it looks like is baked short crust pastry with some kind of filling, dusted with icing sugar and sprinkled with 100s and 1000s.
Think of the possibilities - raspberry jam "pop tart" with chocolate ice cream and dark chocolate shavings, peanut butter "pop tart" with salted caramel ice cream, nutella poptart with madagascar vanilla ice cream....
If you made your own pastry as well you could avoid all those pesky preservatives as well.0 -
i think the op and his minions r just arguing just to play devils advocate and keep the thread going. junk food is real. as adults we can play russian roulette with sugar intake. but how many people out there dont monitor there childrens sugar intake? no parent says, eat all the dorittos u want because we dont care about ur sodium levels, or eat all the snicker bars u want as long as it fits ur macros.0
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i think the op and his minions r just arguing just to play devils advocate and keep the thread going. junk food is real. as adults we can play russian roulette with sugar intake. but how many people out there dont monitor there childrens sugar intake? no parent says, eat all the dorittos u want because we dont care about ur sodium levels, or eat all the snicker bars u want as long as it fits ur macros.
Perhaps if you had read this thread, you would see that nearly all of us who enjoy things like ice cream, pop tarts, and Doritos do it in the context of an overall healthy diet. As I mentioned earlier, I shoot for about 80% healthy choices. I average about 2000 calories a day. If I've eaten 1600 calories that are made primarily of things like lean protein, fruits, veggies, olive oil, whole grains, and nuts, why shouldn't I have a Snickers bar or serving of Doritos at the end of the day? Exactly how does that treat override all the good things I've already put into my body?
The OP eats 50% nutritionally deficient processed foods - and 50% (not 80%) healthy choices.
In your opinion, and you are a tad obsessed about good and bad food. I'd go insane eating your diet - and I'd never be able to go out to restaurants with friends or to the pub for a pint. Your definition of processed foods and mine are not the same.
And I don't need to see any wikki references thank you.0 -
i think the op and his minions r just arguing just to play devils advocate and keep the thread going. junk food is real. as adults we can play russian roulette with sugar intake. but how many people out there dont monitor there childrens sugar intake? no parent says, eat all the dorittos u want because we dont care about ur sodium levels, or eat all the snicker bars u want as long as it fits ur macros.
Perhaps if you had read this thread, you would see that nearly all of us who enjoy things like ice cream, pop tarts, and Doritos do it in the context of an overall healthy diet. As I mentioned earlier, I shoot for about 80% healthy choices. I average about 2000 calories a day. If I've eaten 1600 calories that are made primarily of things like lean protein, fruits, veggies, olive oil, whole grains, and nuts, why shouldn't I have a Snickers bar or serving of Doritos at the end of the day? Exactly how does that treat override all the good things I've already put into my body?
The OP eats 50% nutritionally deficient processed foods - and 50% (not 80%) healthy choices.
In your opinion, and you are a tad obsessed about good and bad food. I'd go insane eating your diet - and I'd never be able to go out to restaurants with friends or to the pub for a pint. Your definition of processed foods and mine are not the same.
And I don't need to see any wikki references thank you.
Well, maybe just one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthorexia_nervosa0 -
i think the op and his minions r just arguing just to play devils advocate and keep the thread going. junk food is real. as adults we can play russian roulette with sugar intake. but how many people out there dont monitor there childrens sugar intake? no parent says, eat all the dorittos u want because we dont care about ur sodium levels, or eat all the snicker bars u want as long as it fits ur macros.
Perhaps if you had read this thread, you would see that nearly all of us who enjoy things like ice cream, pop tarts, and Doritos do it in the context of an overall healthy diet. As I mentioned earlier, I shoot for about 80% healthy choices. I average about 2000 calories a day. If I've eaten 1600 calories that are made primarily of things like lean protein, fruits, veggies, olive oil, whole grains, and nuts, why shouldn't I have a Snickers bar or serving of Doritos at the end of the day? Exactly how does that treat override all the good things I've already put into my body?
The OP eats 50% nutritionally deficient processed foods - and 50% (not 80%) healthy choices.
In your opinion, and you are a tad obsessed about good and bad food. I'd go insane eating your diet - and I'd never be able to go out to restaurants with friends or to the pub for a pint. Your definition of processed foods and mine are not the same.
And I don't need to see any wikki references thank you.
you're wrong on all those counts. i'm not obsessed with good or bad foods, i simply think your diet shouldn't be 50% cookies, ice cream and pop tarts. call me crazy.
my diet isn't a "diet", i just eat real food. I also go out to eat with my friends and it works just fine!
(also, you like... can't have a different opinion on what constitutes processed... since... something's either processed or it isn't)0 -
i think the op and his minions r just arguing just to play devils advocate and keep the thread going. junk food is real. as adults we can play russian roulette with sugar intake. but how many people out there dont monitor there childrens sugar intake? no parent says, eat all the dorittos u want because we dont care about ur sodium levels, or eat all the snicker bars u want as long as it fits ur macros.0
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you're wrong on all those counts. i'm not obsessed with good or bad foods, i simply think your diet shouldn't be 50% cookies, ice cream and pop tarts. call me crazy.
my diet isn't a "diet", i just eat real food. I also go out to eat with my friends and it works just fine!
(also, you like... can't have a different opinion on what constitutes processed... since... something's either processed or it isn't)
I can - that's why it's called an opinion.
and as I stated earlier, I did the maths and the ops cals were 30% from cookies pop tarts and ice cream. Not 50%. You seem to have trouble with quoting the correct figures in threads. Oddly you always have them incorrect to make your point.
Edit: I mean diet as it is supposed to be used.0 -
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you're wrong on all those counts. i'm not obsessed with good or bad foods, i simply think your diet shouldn't be 50% cookies, ice cream and pop tarts. call me crazy.
my diet isn't a "diet", i just eat real food. I also go out to eat with my friends and it works just fine!
(also, you like... can't have a different opinion on what constitutes processed... since... something's either processed or it isn't)
I can - that's why it's called an opinion.
and as I stated earlier, I did the maths and the ops cals were 30% from cookies pop tarts and ice cream. Not 50%. You seem to have trouble with quoting the correct figures in threads. Oddly you always have them incorrect to make your point.
Edit: I mean diet as it is supposed to be used.
you talk about logic - you can't have an opinion about a fact. something is either factually processed or it is factually not processed. there is no opinion on the matter. it either comes from a factory or the ground. It comes in a box/package/can or it comes from the produce section.
but something can be "minimally" processed or "heavily" processed - THAT can be opinion.0 -
you're wrong on all those counts. i'm not obsessed with good or bad foods, i simply think your diet shouldn't be 50% cookies, ice cream and pop tarts. call me crazy.
my diet isn't a "diet", i just eat real food. I also go out to eat with my friends and it works just fine!
(also, you like... can't have a different opinion on what constitutes processed... since... something's either processed or it isn't)
I can - that's why it's called an opinion.
and as I stated earlier, I did the maths and the ops cals were 30% from cookies pop tarts and ice cream. Not 50%. You seem to have trouble with quoting the correct figures in threads. Oddly you always have them incorrect to make your point.
Edit: I mean diet as it is supposed to be used.
you talk about logic - you can't have an opinion about a fact. something is either factually processed or it is factually not processed. there is no opinion on the matter. it either comes from a factory or the ground. It comes in a box/package/can or it comes from the produce section.
but something can be "minimally" processed or "heavily" processed - THAT can be opinion.
Ah semantics
and about your maths fail?0 -
you're wrong on all those counts. i'm not obsessed with good or bad foods, i simply think your diet shouldn't be 50% cookies, ice cream and pop tarts. call me crazy.
my diet isn't a "diet", i just eat real food. I also go out to eat with my friends and it works just fine!
(also, you like... can't have a different opinion on what constitutes processed... since... something's either processed or it isn't)
I can - that's why it's called an opinion.
and as I stated earlier, I did the maths and the ops cals were 30% from cookies pop tarts and ice cream. Not 50%. You seem to have trouble with quoting the correct figures in threads. Oddly you always have them incorrect to make your point.
Edit: I mean diet as it is supposed to be used.
you talk about logic - you can't have an opinion about a fact. something is either factually processed or it is factually not processed. there is no opinion on the matter. it either comes from a factory or the ground. It comes in a box/package/can or it comes from the produce section.
but something can be "minimally" processed or "heavily" processed - THAT can be opinion.
Ah semantics
and about your maths fail?
from his diary today (again, not an attack, just an observation):
After Dinner: 2,235 cal from processed junk foods. take out the butter and it's still over 2,000
Total Cals: 3,992
Pretty sure 2,000 is 50% of 4,000...0 -
you're wrong on all those counts. i'm not obsessed with good or bad foods, i simply think your diet shouldn't be 50% cookies, ice cream and pop tarts. call me crazy.
my diet isn't a "diet", i just eat real food. I also go out to eat with my friends and it works just fine!
(also, you like... can't have a different opinion on what constitutes processed... since... something's either processed or it isn't)
I can - that's why it's called an opinion.
and as I stated earlier, I did the maths and the ops cals were 30% from cookies pop tarts and ice cream. Not 50%. You seem to have trouble with quoting the correct figures in threads. Oddly you always have them incorrect to make your point.
Edit: I mean diet as it is supposed to be used.
you talk about logic - you can't have an opinion about a fact. something is either factually processed or it is factually not processed. there is no opinion on the matter. it either comes from a factory or the ground. It comes in a box/package/can or it comes from the produce section.
but something can be "minimally" processed or "heavily" processed - THAT can be opinion.
Ah semantics
and about your maths fail?
from his diary today (again, not an attack, just an observation):
After Dinner: 2,235 cal from processed junk foods. take out the butter and it's still over 2,000
Total Cals: 3,992
Pretty sure 2,000 is 50% of 4,000...
Your bases is on one day of food consumption......... Yeah that makes alot of sense...... The man pretty much eats no different than I do... I am not an ice cream person but do like chocolate pudding and whip cream.... We both have our processed food or whatever you want to refer to them as but at the same time put away our fair share or chicken and fish and fresh produce,etc..... and I might add........ Can I ask what difference does it make to you what he eats??? The man has lost 158 lbs. regardless to what you think he should be eating. and please don't come back with well he works out and has a 4000 calorie a day allowance yada yada.... I don't care if he works out 10 hours a day and has a 10,000 calorie a day allowance or he doesn't work out and eats 2800 a day. The point here is some of us absolutely could care less about sustaining a diet of perfection and not add in a few things you may feel are on your not to eat list... The bigger picture here for those that want to know is if you eat in moderation and in a calorie deficit then you can eat what you want and Still Lose Weight.0 -
you're wrong on all those counts. i'm not obsessed with good or bad foods, i simply think your diet shouldn't be 50% cookies, ice cream and pop tarts. call me crazy.
my diet isn't a "diet", i just eat real food. I also go out to eat with my friends and it works just fine!
(also, you like... can't have a different opinion on what constitutes processed... since... something's either processed or it isn't)
I can - that's why it's called an opinion.
and as I stated earlier, I did the maths and the ops cals were 30% from cookies pop tarts and ice cream. Not 50%. You seem to have trouble with quoting the correct figures in threads. Oddly you always have them incorrect to make your point.
Edit: I mean diet as it is supposed to be used.
you talk about logic - you can't have an opinion about a fact. something is either factually processed or it is factually not processed. there is no opinion on the matter. it either comes from a factory or the ground. It comes in a box/package/can or it comes from the produce section.
but something can be "minimally" processed or "heavily" processed - THAT can be opinion.
Ah semantics
and about your maths fail?
from his diary today (again, not an attack, just an observation):
After Dinner: 2,235 cal from processed junk foods. take out the butter and it's still over 2,000
Total Cals: 3,992
Pretty sure 2,000 is 50% of 4,000...
cookies, ice cream, pop tarts and chips 1490. about 35%. Are you adding other items because you saidi simply think your diet shouldn't be 50% cookies, ice cream and pop tarts.
My original figures were from yesterday as that was all that was up when I looked. Moving the goal posts again to suit your accusations?0 -
Back on track0
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you're wrong on all those counts. i'm not obsessed with good or bad foods, i simply think your diet shouldn't be 50% cookies, ice cream and pop tarts. call me crazy.
my diet isn't a "diet", i just eat real food. I also go out to eat with my friends and it works just fine!
(also, you like... can't have a different opinion on what constitutes processed... since... something's either processed or it isn't)
I can - that's why it's called an opinion.
and as I stated earlier, I did the maths and the ops cals were 30% from cookies pop tarts and ice cream. Not 50%. You seem to have trouble with quoting the correct figures in threads. Oddly you always have them incorrect to make your point.
Edit: I mean diet as it is supposed to be used.
you talk about logic - you can't have an opinion about a fact. something is either factually processed or it is factually not processed. there is no opinion on the matter. it either comes from a factory or the ground. It comes in a box/package/can or it comes from the produce section.
but something can be "minimally" processed or "heavily" processed - THAT can be opinion.
Ah semantics
and about your maths fail?
from his diary today (again, not an attack, just an observation):
After Dinner: 2,235 cal from processed junk foods. take out the butter and it's still over 2,000
Total Cals: 3,992
Pretty sure 2,000 is 50% of 4,000...
cookies, ice cream, pop tarts and chips 1490. about 35%. Are you adding other items because you saidi simply think your diet shouldn't be 50% cookies, ice cream and pop tarts.
My original figures were from yesterday as that was all that was up when I looked. Moving the goal posts again to suit your accusations?0 -
Greek Yogurt, corn bread (home made by myself thank you), Cherrios, Fiber One,milk, cottage cheese. Must count as junk because they didn't come directly from the earth.0
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Back on track
Food Porn!!!!! :drinker:0 -
Greek Yogurt, corn bread (home made by myself thank you), Cherrios, Fiber One,milk, cottage cheese. Must count as junk because they didn't come directly from the earth.
they're all heavily processed and fortified, exactly in the ways pop tarts, cookies and ice cream are.
but whatever. y'all think you're right and I think i'm right. I'm done.0 -
Plus I've only had my protein shake today, it's not even lunch time. My 4th meal could change. I'd go by yesterdays diary, that I DID eat. Today I haven't eaten it yet.0
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