Health food not so healthy???
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ETA: Forgot to add MY not-healthy "health" foods: ALL grains (whole or not), beans, dairy, fruit juice, soymilk (all soy), agave.
How do you manage to stay away from all soy? I was placed on a very strict diet when my son was a baby, and soy was one of the things I had to stay away from, and it was the hardest thing to avoid.
I do by eating only home cooked meals and reading labels.0 -
Low fat anything. If it's not already naturally low in fat, slapping "low fat" on the label guarantees that I won't buy it.
I absolutely agree with you.0 -
Baby carrots are cut from larger "imperfect" carrots. They are not 'bred". They are rinsed in a chlorine solution, then rinsed again with clean water. Do you not wash your veggies before eating them?
Not in bleach, I don't!
When I was a restaurant manager we were required to wipe down everything in a weak bleach solution.0 -
I personally watch what I eat very carefully but I'm NOT AFRAID OF MY FOOD, lol.
Actually, I adore food. I also love being part of the whole process of growing our own food. My family takes great pleasure in growing food and creating delicious meals using incredibly nutritious ingredients.0 -
This thread should get interesting...
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The "bad" foods...
Fruit, Vegetables, whole grains, not whole grains, dairy, soy, anything with chemicals in it, anything without chemicals in it, water, sugar, alcohol, legumes, nuts, eggs, egg whites, egg substitutes, herbs, spices, sugar again,...
f'in paranoid MFP universe...
if you all are happy and seeing success eating whatever foods you want, then great! but if other people choose to live a different lifestyle than you, why does that give you the right to criticize and troll their threads? the guy was asking a simple question, and half of you jumped in here to flame against people who are more meticulous about their diets. I don't do lactose, and I have currently cut out grains as well. Does that make me orthorexic or paranoid? Absolutely not. I love food and I love my life. But I also am fascinated by the human body, and in my research I've learned some amazing things about how the body can heal itself and work at its optimal level if you feed it the nutrients it really wants - so that's what I strive to do.
You don't have to agree. That's your choice. But why do you all feel the need to flame people who view things differently than you?
I just wanted to say THANK YOU! I can't even begin to tell you how hurtful some of these comments have been for me to read. think I'll stay away from the message boards and the snarky immature people on them. Not worth it. Thought the purpose was something completely different.
you won't eat certain foods because of email chain letters, but we're the immature ones.
I won't eat certain foods because of what I've read about them. NOTHING to do with chain emails actually. And yet, if you read anything about it, you would know that the way they USED to be made back in the 80's when they were first introduced is not the same way they are today.... much like alot of the foods available at the stores today.
Honestly, people make alot of assumptions on here ~ without for one second realizing that there is a real person on the other end reading the comments. And regardless of how you feel about it, I do have feelings ~ and I didn't realize THIS was the purpose of the boards. Now I know.0 -
"the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food
This makes absolutely no sense, since organic produce contains more mutagens than conventionally-raised produced. (Not that the levels of either are any cause for concern).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxE9sYatPAs
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And this why I stay completely away from food!!!!!!.....and now i am afraid of water!!!
ROFLOL!!!!!!!!! :laugh:
Eat, exercise, die anyways!!!
Quite a snarky comment from a "Christian Wife" ~ you people with some of these comments need to seriously reconsider what you post, and how you come across. Pretty sad.
No need to attack someone or their religion. It was not a mean or hateful post. Just someone making a joke.
How exactly did I attack? and my post had NOTHING to do with religion, but with the name she chose for herself on these boards. And yes it was a snarky comment. and immature. Not something I'd expect from someone who calls herself a christian wife.0 -
ROFL"the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food
This makes absolutely no sense, since organic produce contains more mutagens than conventionally-raised produced. (Not that the levels of either are any cause for concern).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxE9sYatPAs
Did you watch the video? What, exactly do you find funny about it (other than the fact that it challenges your previously held beliefs)?
There are more rodent carcinogens in a single cup of coffee than potentially carcinogenic pesticide residues in the average American diet in a year, and there are still a thousand chemicals left to test in roasted coffee. This does not mean that coffee is dangerous but rather that animal cancer tests and worst-case risk assessment, build in enormous safety factors and should not be considered true risks. The reason humans can eat the tremendous variety of natural chemical "rodent carcinogens" is that humans, like other animals, are extremely well protected by many general defense enzymes, most of which are inducible (i.e., whenever a defense enzyme is in use, more of it is made). Since the defense enzymes are equally effective against natural and synthetic chemicals one does not expect, nor does one find, a general difference between synthetic and natural chemicals in ability to cause cancer in high-dose rodent tests. The idea that there is an epidemic of human cancer caused by synthetic industrial chemicals is false. In addition, there is a steady rise in life expectancy in the developed countries. Linear extrapolation from the maximum tolerated dose in rodents to low level exposure in humans has led to grossly exaggerated mortality forecasts.
Ames, B.N. and Gold, L.S. (1998) The causes and prevention of cancer: the role of environment. Biotherapy 11:205-20.0 -
I am being helpful, I'm telling you not to be scared of your food.
I'm not scared of my food. I choose my food wisely. Thanks for your concern 0 -
Penn & Teller did a funny bit on B*ll**** where they chopped several fruits in half then told people one half was organic and the other half was non-organic. The vast majority of the people said the organic half (keep in mind again, this was from the same fruit) tasted better. Organic is marketing hype. Feel free to pay double for your veggies though if you really feel the need.
I prefer not to eat pesticides with my meals. I also prefer to have my veggies grown in nutrient rich soil.
Why do you think organic produce doesn't use pesticides?
With regard to pesticides, it must also be noted that organic farming, while using methods to minimize pests and the need for pesticides, still uses organic, rather than synthetic, pesticides. For example a rotenone-pyrethrin mixture is commonly used. Such pesticides are not as well studied as synthetic pesticides, often require more applications, and may persist longer in the soil. In fact the use of “natural” pesticides is nothing more than an appeal to the naturalistic fallacy – there really is no evidence for superior safety, and they have not been adequately studied.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/is-organic-food-more-healthful/
That's interesting about rotenone-pyrethrin I'll have to look into that because that is news to me. Thanks for the heads up.
We grow huge organic gardens and raspberries and we have never used ANY organic or synthetic pesticides. When we don't have it growing in our own garden or greenhouse, then I buy organic produce from a privately owned health food store that buys local, organic produce as much as possible. I'll have to ask them if they use any organic pesticides.
I do know that in the article linked below, "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals."
http://www.rodale.com/health-benefits-organic?page=0,1
The way I look at is this. Big agri-business knows that consumers are demanding organic produce. They only offer organics now because they know they have to. Some states have laxer laws than others regarding organic farming requirements for certification. So I've been reluctant to buy organic produce from the big box stores because I've been concerned their organic produce is farmed using the least stringent standards . . . because after all they aren't offering organics because they necessarily feel passionate about it . . . they're going to offer it the cheapest way possible. On the other hand, I feel a local organic farm or small organic farm is growing organically because they feel passionately about clean food.
I'm laughing because I started by saying I prefer not to eat pesticides with my vegetables and that I prefer to eat vegetables grown from nutrient rich soil. Then it was pointed out that some possibly toxic "organic" pesticides are being used by some organic farms. I said thanks for the heads up and I'd look into it and see if the farms use any "organic" pesticides where I get veggies . . . also noting that we grow a high percentage of our food. I also noted that "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals." And then you poo pooed the President's Cancer Panel's report and instead gave me information regarding the hazards of rodent feces in coffee vs non organically produce. I find your line of thinking funny.0 -
What do you suggest to use to disinfect them? Soil is full of bacteria,fungus. 3rd world countries use chlorinie to make drinking water. .0
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Penn & Teller did a funny bit on B*ll**** where they chopped several fruits in half then told people one half was organic and the other half was non-organic. The vast majority of the people said the organic half (keep in mind again, this was from the same fruit) tasted better. Organic is marketing hype. Feel free to pay double for your veggies though if you really feel the need.
I prefer not to eat pesticides with my meals. I also prefer to have my veggies grown in nutrient rich soil.
Why do you think organic produce doesn't use pesticides?
With regard to pesticides, it must also be noted that organic farming, while using methods to minimize pests and the need for pesticides, still uses organic, rather than synthetic, pesticides. For example a rotenone-pyrethrin mixture is commonly used. Such pesticides are not as well studied as synthetic pesticides, often require more applications, and may persist longer in the soil. In fact the use of “natural” pesticides is nothing more than an appeal to the naturalistic fallacy – there really is no evidence for superior safety, and they have not been adequately studied.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/is-organic-food-more-healthful/
That's interesting about rotenone-pyrethrin I'll have to look into that because that is news to me. Thanks for the heads up.
We grow huge organic gardens and raspberries and we have never used ANY organic or synthetic pesticides. When we don't have it growing in our own garden or greenhouse, then I buy organic produce from a privately owned health food store that buys local, organic produce as much as possible. I'll have to ask them if they use any organic pesticides.
I do know that in the article linked below, "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals."
http://www.rodale.com/health-benefits-organic?page=0,1
The way I look at is this. Big agri-business knows that consumers are demanding organic produce. They only offer organics now because they know they have to. Some states have laxer laws than others regarding organic farming requirements for certification. So I've been reluctant to buy organic produce from the big box stores because I've been concerned their organic produce is farmed using the least stringent standards . . . because after all they aren't offering organics because they necessarily feel passionate about it . . . they're going to offer it the cheapest way possible. On the other hand, I feel a local organic farm or small organic farm is growing organically because they feel passionately about clean food.
I'm laughing because I started by saying I prefer not to eat pesticides with my vegetables and that I prefer to eat vegetables grown from nutrient rich soil. Then it was pointed out that some possibly toxic "organic" pesticides are being used by some organic farms. I said thanks for the heads up and I'd look into it and see if the farms use any "organic" pesticides where I get veggies . . . also noting that we grow a high percentage of our food. I also noted that "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals." And then you poo pooed the President's Cancer Panel's report and instead gave me information regarding the hazards of rodent feces in coffee vs non organically produce. I find your line of thinking funny.
The link clearly show that the "chemicals" you claim are "toxic" are no more dangerous than the ones produced naturally by your precious organic produce.0 -
bagels.0
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The "bad" foods...
Fruit, Vegetables, whole grains, not whole grains, dairy, soy, anything with chemicals in it, anything without chemicals in it, water, sugar, alcohol, legumes, nuts, eggs, egg whites, egg substitutes, herbs, spices, sugar again,...
f'in paranoid MFP universe...
if you all are happy and seeing success eating whatever foods you want, then great! but if other people choose to live a different lifestyle than you, why does that give you the right to criticize and troll their threads? the guy was asking a simple question, and half of you jumped in here to flame against people who are more meticulous about their diets. I don't do lactose, and I have currently cut out grains as well. Does that make me orthorexic or paranoid? Absolutely not. I love food and I love my life. But I also am fascinated by the human body, and in my research I've learned some amazing things about how the body can heal itself and work at its optimal level if you feed it the nutrients it really wants - so that's what I strive to do.
You don't have to agree. That's your choice. But why do you all feel the need to flame people who view things differently than you?
I just wanted to say THANK YOU! I can't even begin to tell you how hurtful some of these comments have been for me to read. think I'll stay away from the message boards and the snarky immature people on them. Not worth it. Thought the purpose was something completely different.
you won't eat certain foods because of email chain letters, but we're the immature ones.
I won't eat certain foods because of what I've read about them. NOTHING to do with chain emails actually. And yet, if you read anything about it, you would know that the way they USED to be made back in the 80's when they were first introduced is not the same way they are today.... much like alot of the foods available at the stores today.
Honestly, people make alot of assumptions on here ~ without for one second realizing that there is a real person on the other end reading the comments. And regardless of how you feel about it, I do have feelings ~ and I didn't realize THIS was the purpose of the boards. Now I know.
The purpose of any discussion forum is to share information. By calling out those who provide false or faulty information, we all help each other learn.0 -
And this why I stay completely away from food!!!!!!.....and now i am afraid of water!!!
ROFLOL!!!!!!!!! :laugh:
Eat, exercise, die anyways!!!
Quite a snarky comment from a "Christian Wife" ~ you people with some of these comments need to seriously reconsider what you post, and how you come across. Pretty sad.
No need to attack someone or their religion. It was not a mean or hateful post. Just someone making a joke.
How exactly did I attack? and my post had NOTHING to do with religion, but with the name she chose for herself on these boards. And yes it was a snarky comment. and immature. Not something I'd expect from someone who calls herself a christian wife.
So, Christians are not allowed to have a sense of humor because you don't find it funny? And questioning someone's religion because they make a joke is not "attacking".
Okay, then. Glad we got that cleared up. :huh:0 -
This thread should get interesting...0
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I used to eat pure bleach until someone told me to switch to organic0
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Penn & Teller did a funny bit on B*ll**** where they chopped several fruits in half then told people one half was organic and the other half was non-organic. The vast majority of the people said the organic half (keep in mind again, this was from the same fruit) tasted better. Organic is marketing hype. Feel free to pay double for your veggies though if you really feel the need.
I prefer not to eat pesticides with my meals. I also prefer to have my veggies grown in nutrient rich soil.
Why do you think organic produce doesn't use pesticides?
With regard to pesticides, it must also be noted that organic farming, while using methods to minimize pests and the need for pesticides, still uses organic, rather than synthetic, pesticides. For example a rotenone-pyrethrin mixture is commonly used. Such pesticides are not as well studied as synthetic pesticides, often require more applications, and may persist longer in the soil. In fact the use of “natural” pesticides is nothing more than an appeal to the naturalistic fallacy – there really is no evidence for superior safety, and they have not been adequately studied.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/is-organic-food-more-healthful/
That's interesting about rotenone-pyrethrin I'll have to look into that because that is news to me. Thanks for the heads up.
We grow huge organic gardens and raspberries and we have never used ANY organic or synthetic pesticides. When we don't have it growing in our own garden or greenhouse, then I buy organic produce from a privately owned health food store that buys local, organic produce as much as possible. I'll have to ask them if they use any organic pesticides.
I do know that in the article linked below, "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals."
http://www.rodale.com/health-benefits-organic?page=0,1
The way I look at is this. Big agri-business knows that consumers are demanding organic produce. They only offer organics now because they know they have to. Some states have laxer laws than others regarding organic farming requirements for certification. So I've been reluctant to buy organic produce from the big box stores because I've been concerned their organic produce is farmed using the least stringent standards . . . because after all they aren't offering organics because they necessarily feel passionate about it . . . they're going to offer it the cheapest way possible. On the other hand, I feel a local organic farm or small organic farm is growing organically because they feel passionately about clean food.
I'm laughing because I started by saying I prefer not to eat pesticides with my vegetables and that I prefer to eat vegetables grown from nutrient rich soil. Then it was pointed out that some possibly toxic "organic" pesticides are being used by some organic farms. I said thanks for the heads up and I'd look into it and see if the farms use any "organic" pesticides where I get veggies . . . also noting that we grow a high percentage of our food. I also noted that "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals." And then you poo pooed the President's Cancer Panel's report and instead gave me information regarding the hazards of rodent feces in coffee vs non organically produce. I find your line of thinking funny.
The link clearly show that the "chemicals" you claim are "toxic" are no more dangerous than the ones produced naturally by your precious organic produce.
Yep that's what you think. I think differently. Do you have a problem with that?0 -
Penn & Teller did a funny bit on B*ll**** where they chopped several fruits in half then told people one half was organic and the other half was non-organic. The vast majority of the people said the organic half (keep in mind again, this was from the same fruit) tasted better. Organic is marketing hype. Feel free to pay double for your veggies though if you really feel the need.
I prefer not to eat pesticides with my meals. I also prefer to have my veggies grown in nutrient rich soil.
Why do you think organic produce doesn't use pesticides?
With regard to pesticides, it must also be noted that organic farming, while using methods to minimize pests and the need for pesticides, still uses organic, rather than synthetic, pesticides. For example a rotenone-pyrethrin mixture is commonly used. Such pesticides are not as well studied as synthetic pesticides, often require more applications, and may persist longer in the soil. In fact the use of “natural” pesticides is nothing more than an appeal to the naturalistic fallacy – there really is no evidence for superior safety, and they have not been adequately studied.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/is-organic-food-more-healthful/
That's interesting about rotenone-pyrethrin I'll have to look into that because that is news to me. Thanks for the heads up.
We grow huge organic gardens and raspberries and we have never used ANY organic or synthetic pesticides. When we don't have it growing in our own garden or greenhouse, then I buy organic produce from a privately owned health food store that buys local, organic produce as much as possible. I'll have to ask them if they use any organic pesticides.
I do know that in the article linked below, "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals."
http://www.rodale.com/health-benefits-organic?page=0,1
The way I look at is this. Big agri-business knows that consumers are demanding organic produce. They only offer organics now because they know they have to. Some states have laxer laws than others regarding organic farming requirements for certification. So I've been reluctant to buy organic produce from the big box stores because I've been concerned their organic produce is farmed using the least stringent standards . . . because after all they aren't offering organics because they necessarily feel passionate about it . . . they're going to offer it the cheapest way possible. On the other hand, I feel a local organic farm or small organic farm is growing organically because they feel passionately about clean food.
I'm laughing because I started by saying I prefer not to eat pesticides with my vegetables and that I prefer to eat vegetables grown from nutrient rich soil. Then it was pointed out that some possibly toxic "organic" pesticides are being used by some organic farms. I said thanks for the heads up and I'd look into it and see if the farms use any "organic" pesticides where I get veggies . . . also noting that we grow a high percentage of our food. I also noted that "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals." And then you poo pooed the President's Cancer Panel's report and instead gave me information regarding the hazards of rodent feces in coffee vs non organically produce. I find your line of thinking funny.
The link clearly show that the "chemicals" you claim are "toxic" are no more dangerous than the ones produced naturally by your precious organic produce.
Yep that's what you think. I think differently. Do you have a problem with that?
You can think whatever you want.
My position is supported by evidence, yours is not.0 -
Penn & Teller did a funny bit on B*ll**** where they chopped several fruits in half then told people one half was organic and the other half was non-organic. The vast majority of the people said the organic half (keep in mind again, this was from the same fruit) tasted better. Organic is marketing hype. Feel free to pay double for your veggies though if you really feel the need.
I prefer not to eat pesticides with my meals. I also prefer to have my veggies grown in nutrient rich soil.
Why do you think organic produce doesn't use pesticides?
With regard to pesticides, it must also be noted that organic farming, while using methods to minimize pests and the need for pesticides, still uses organic, rather than synthetic, pesticides. For example a rotenone-pyrethrin mixture is commonly used. Such pesticides are not as well studied as synthetic pesticides, often require more applications, and may persist longer in the soil. In fact the use of “natural” pesticides is nothing more than an appeal to the naturalistic fallacy – there really is no evidence for superior safety, and they have not been adequately studied.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/is-organic-food-more-healthful/
That's interesting about rotenone-pyrethrin I'll have to look into that because that is news to me. Thanks for the heads up.
We grow huge organic gardens and raspberries and we have never used ANY organic or synthetic pesticides. When we don't have it growing in our own garden or greenhouse, then I buy organic produce from a privately owned health food store that buys local, organic produce as much as possible. I'll have to ask them if they use any organic pesticides.
I do know that in the article linked below, "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals."
http://www.rodale.com/health-benefits-organic?page=0,1
The way I look at is this. Big agri-business knows that consumers are demanding organic produce. They only offer organics now because they know they have to. Some states have laxer laws than others regarding organic farming requirements for certification. So I've been reluctant to buy organic produce from the big box stores because I've been concerned their organic produce is farmed using the least stringent standards . . . because after all they aren't offering organics because they necessarily feel passionate about it . . . they're going to offer it the cheapest way possible. On the other hand, I feel a local organic farm or small organic farm is growing organically because they feel passionately about clean food.
I'm laughing because I started by saying I prefer not to eat pesticides with my vegetables and that I prefer to eat vegetables grown from nutrient rich soil. Then it was pointed out that some possibly toxic "organic" pesticides are being used by some organic farms. I said thanks for the heads up and I'd look into it and see if the farms use any "organic" pesticides where I get veggies . . . also noting that we grow a high percentage of our food. I also noted that "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals." And then you poo pooed the President's Cancer Panel's report and instead gave me information regarding the hazards of rodent feces in coffee vs non organically produce. I find your line of thinking funny.
The link clearly show that the "chemicals" you claim are "toxic" are no more dangerous than the ones produced naturally by your precious organic produce.
Yep that's what you think. I think differently. Do you have a problem with that?
C-C-C-C-C-COMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BREAKER!!!!!
Some of those cereals with nuts sure do have lots of calories huh?0 -
Penn & Teller did a funny bit on B*ll**** where they chopped several fruits in half then told people one half was organic and the other half was non-organic. The vast majority of the people said the organic half (keep in mind again, this was from the same fruit) tasted better. Organic is marketing hype. Feel free to pay double for your veggies though if you really feel the need.
I prefer not to eat pesticides with my meals. I also prefer to have my veggies grown in nutrient rich soil.
Why do you think organic produce doesn't use pesticides?
With regard to pesticides, it must also be noted that organic farming, while using methods to minimize pests and the need for pesticides, still uses organic, rather than synthetic, pesticides. For example a rotenone-pyrethrin mixture is commonly used. Such pesticides are not as well studied as synthetic pesticides, often require more applications, and may persist longer in the soil. In fact the use of “natural” pesticides is nothing more than an appeal to the naturalistic fallacy – there really is no evidence for superior safety, and they have not been adequately studied.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/is-organic-food-more-healthful/
That's interesting about rotenone-pyrethrin I'll have to look into that because that is news to me. Thanks for the heads up.
We grow huge organic gardens and raspberries and we have never used ANY organic or synthetic pesticides. When we don't have it growing in our own garden or greenhouse, then I buy organic produce from a privately owned health food store that buys local, organic produce as much as possible. I'll have to ask them if they use any organic pesticides.
I do know that in the article linked below, "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals."
http://www.rodale.com/health-benefits-organic?page=0,1
The way I look at is this. Big agri-business knows that consumers are demanding organic produce. They only offer organics now because they know they have to. Some states have laxer laws than others regarding organic farming requirements for certification. So I've been reluctant to buy organic produce from the big box stores because I've been concerned their organic produce is farmed using the least stringent standards . . . because after all they aren't offering organics because they necessarily feel passionate about it . . . they're going to offer it the cheapest way possible. On the other hand, I feel a local organic farm or small organic farm is growing organically because they feel passionately about clean food.
I'm laughing because I started by saying I prefer not to eat pesticides with my vegetables and that I prefer to eat vegetables grown from nutrient rich soil. Then it was pointed out that some possibly toxic "organic" pesticides are being used by some organic farms. I said thanks for the heads up and I'd look into it and see if the farms use any "organic" pesticides where I get veggies . . . also noting that we grow a high percentage of our food. I also noted that "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals." And then you poo pooed the President's Cancer Panel's report and instead gave me information regarding the hazards of rodent feces in coffee vs non organically produce. I find your line of thinking funny.
The link clearly show that the "chemicals" you claim are "toxic" are no more dangerous than the ones produced naturally by your precious organic produce.
Yep that's what you think. I think differently. Do you have a problem with that?
You can think whatever you want.
My position is supported by evidence, yours is not.
Then why is did "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals."0 -
almond milk made me sick :ohwell:
other then that still experimenting, though can't wait until the vegetable garden is started.0 -
So basically, you guys don't eat anything?
BRB...going to McDonalds0 -
Snopes can be a wealth of helpful information.
http://www.snopes.com/food/tainted/carrots.asp
Baby carrots are cut from larger "imperfect" carrots. They are not 'bred". They are rinsed in a chlorine solution, then rinsed again with clean water. Do you not wash your veggies before eating them?
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Penn & Teller did a funny bit on B*ll**** where they chopped several fruits in half then told people one half was organic and the other half was non-organic. The vast majority of the people said the organic half (keep in mind again, this was from the same fruit) tasted better. Organic is marketing hype. Feel free to pay double for your veggies though if you really feel the need.
I prefer not to eat pesticides with my meals. I also prefer to have my veggies grown in nutrient rich soil.
Why do you think organic produce doesn't use pesticides?
With regard to pesticides, it must also be noted that organic farming, while using methods to minimize pests and the need for pesticides, still uses organic, rather than synthetic, pesticides. For example a rotenone-pyrethrin mixture is commonly used. Such pesticides are not as well studied as synthetic pesticides, often require more applications, and may persist longer in the soil. In fact the use of “natural” pesticides is nothing more than an appeal to the naturalistic fallacy – there really is no evidence for superior safety, and they have not been adequately studied.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/is-organic-food-more-healthful/
That's interesting about rotenone-pyrethrin I'll have to look into that because that is news to me. Thanks for the heads up.
We grow huge organic gardens and raspberries and we have never used ANY organic or synthetic pesticides. When we don't have it growing in our own garden or greenhouse, then I buy organic produce from a privately owned health food store that buys local, organic produce as much as possible. I'll have to ask them if they use any organic pesticides.
I do know that in the article linked below, "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals."
http://www.rodale.com/health-benefits-organic?page=0,1
The way I look at is this. Big agri-business knows that consumers are demanding organic produce. They only offer organics now because they know they have to. Some states have laxer laws than others regarding organic farming requirements for certification. So I've been reluctant to buy organic produce from the big box stores because I've been concerned their organic produce is farmed using the least stringent standards . . . because after all they aren't offering organics because they necessarily feel passionate about it . . . they're going to offer it the cheapest way possible. On the other hand, I feel a local organic farm or small organic farm is growing organically because they feel passionately about clean food.
I'm laughing because I started by saying I prefer not to eat pesticides with my vegetables and that I prefer to eat vegetables grown from nutrient rich soil. Then it was pointed out that some possibly toxic "organic" pesticides are being used by some organic farms. I said thanks for the heads up and I'd look into it and see if the farms use any "organic" pesticides where I get veggies . . . also noting that we grow a high percentage of our food. I also noted that "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals." And then you poo pooed the President's Cancer Panel's report and instead gave me information regarding the hazards of rodent feces in coffee vs non organically produce. I find your line of thinking funny.
The link clearly show that the "chemicals" you claim are "toxic" are no more dangerous than the ones produced naturally by your precious organic produce.
Yep that's what you think. I think differently. Do you have a problem with that?
You can think whatever you want.
My position is supported by evidence, yours is not.
Then why is did "the President's Cancer Panel released a report urging Americans to eat organic food, among other strategies, to reduce their exposure to harmful chemicals."
You'll have to ask them. But a 3-person panel, one of whom is a steroid-fueled former cyclist, is far from the best resource for scientific information.
Edit: On closer inspection, Lance is no longer on the panel. But one of the members is listed as a "Cancer Survivor", with no other credentials.
Not exactly an expert on the sciences.0 -
Brain cancer, yes.There is a study somewhere showing that reading this thread is giving you cancer.0 -
jesus from this thread alone you would think you aint allowed to eat anything lol0
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So basically, you guys don't eat anything?
BRB...going to McDonalds
Purslane, Bok Choy, Arugula, Miner's Lettuce, Italian Lettuce, Beet Greens, Turnip Greens, Brussels Sprouts, Potatoes, Sweet Potatoes, Cucumbers, Carrots, Green Beans, Snap Peas, Pumpkins, Zucchini, Yellow Squash, Acorn Squash, Butternut Squash, Celery, Fiddleheads, Swiss Chard, Kale, Tatsoi, Purslane, Artichokes, Cauliflower, Onions, Garlic, Asparagus, Cabbage, Tomatoes, Sweet Peppers, Hot Peppers, Watercress, Tomatillos, Several varieties of Mushrooms, Parsnips, Turnips, Beets, Raspberries, Apples, Pears, Bananas, Pau Pau, Grapes, Blueberries, Mangos, Avocados, Kiwis, Coconut, Pistachios, Walnuts, Almonds, Peanuts, and various Nut Butters, Coconut Oil, Coconut Milk, Olive Oil, Herbal Teas, Coffee, Lentils, Rice, Barley, Millet, Quinoa, Chic Peas, Cannelloni Beans, Red Kidney Beans, Lima Beans, Hummus, Extra Dark Chocolate, Fresh and dried Herbs, Raw Honey, Rice Cakes, Olives, Miso, Ginger, Sesame Seeds, Chia Seeds, Pistachio Seeds, Flax Seeds . . . Hummm what am I missing?
Do you eat this much variety on a regular basis? BTW Most of the veggies and fruits and berries we grow ourselves.
Oooops edited because not finished with list0 -
:laugh:eating the way we evolved to eat is orthorexic??
Implying we stopped evolving at paleolithic times is mildly amusing to me
Everything on earth evolved from bugs and ****, maybe we should only eat leaves, roots, wood, and gross crap that grows under rocks. After all, it's the way we evolved!0
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