Convince me Pop Tarts & ice cream are bad.
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magerum
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My diet choices have come under a lot of scrutiny lately. Mostly my Pop tart and ice cream consumption. Please, convince me that I'm doing it wrong. Most of the people that have a problem with my diet say my food is nutrient deficient. In fact, I believe it's the unfounded fear of sugar that most people are taking exception.
My diary is open and I'm fairly consistent. Today is a good example of my typical day. The last few weeks I have been a bit more liberal with my diet as I'm coming up to a goal change at the end of the month. Go beyond that and you'll see major consistency (to the point of OCD almost). I advocate allowing yourself 20-25% of your daily caloric intake to consist of anything you want if you're able to hit your macro/micro nutrient needs & goals. For me, based on my intake goals, that's 800 -1000 calories, which I primarily have been allocating to sugar.
I would love to see how my surgary food is nutrient deficient as well, as I'm quite often told. Please show me in detail. Set me right. I log everything and their nutritional values are easily found online. For instance there's 14 g of sugar in one 200 cal Pop Tart. That leaves 144 calories of "other stuff". Is this other stuff air or is it fats/carbs/protein (even 10% of the RDA of 7 micro-nutrients) that are required nutrients?
I would prefer non-anecdotal evidence. As far as "empty calories" go, that's going to be a tough sell for me. A calorie is a unit of measurement and in order to have any caloric value there must be a certain amount of macro (even micro) nutrients present, we'll say for the sake of discussion, per gram of weight.
Info: My daily calorie goal is 4,000. I'm a 33 year old, healthy male, @ 5'10" and about 190 lbs right now. I do cardiovascular exercise 3 days a week and lift heavy (for me) 3 days per week. My "rest" day typically involves 20 minutes of cardio & activity with my toddler.
Resting Heart Rate: 58
Total Cholesterol (as of a couple weeks ago): 93
BP: 110/70
If you'd like to see any other health markers, just ask.
My typical ice cream, per serving (I tend to eat 4):
Calories 110
Calories from Fat 25
Total Fat 3(g)
Saturated Fat 2(g)
Trans Fat 0(g)
Cholesterol 5(mg)
Sodium 55(mg)
Total Carbohydrates 18(g)
Dietary Fiber 0(g)
Sugars 13(g)
Protein 3(g)
Calcium 6% DV
Vitamin A 4% DV
Typical Pop Tart (I tend to eat 2 at a time like most people):
Calories 200
Calories from Fat 45
Total Fat 5.0 g
Saturated Fat 1.5 g
Polyunsaturated Fat 2 g
Monounsaturated Fat 1 g
Sodium 170 mg
Total Carbohydrate 35 g
Dietary Fiber 1 g
Sugars 14 g
Protein 2.0 g
Vitamin A 151 %
Iron 2 %
Niacin 2 %
Folic Acid 40 %
Edited for typos.
My diary is open and I'm fairly consistent. Today is a good example of my typical day. The last few weeks I have been a bit more liberal with my diet as I'm coming up to a goal change at the end of the month. Go beyond that and you'll see major consistency (to the point of OCD almost). I advocate allowing yourself 20-25% of your daily caloric intake to consist of anything you want if you're able to hit your macro/micro nutrient needs & goals. For me, based on my intake goals, that's 800 -1000 calories, which I primarily have been allocating to sugar.
I would love to see how my surgary food is nutrient deficient as well, as I'm quite often told. Please show me in detail. Set me right. I log everything and their nutritional values are easily found online. For instance there's 14 g of sugar in one 200 cal Pop Tart. That leaves 144 calories of "other stuff". Is this other stuff air or is it fats/carbs/protein (even 10% of the RDA of 7 micro-nutrients) that are required nutrients?
I would prefer non-anecdotal evidence. As far as "empty calories" go, that's going to be a tough sell for me. A calorie is a unit of measurement and in order to have any caloric value there must be a certain amount of macro (even micro) nutrients present, we'll say for the sake of discussion, per gram of weight.
Info: My daily calorie goal is 4,000. I'm a 33 year old, healthy male, @ 5'10" and about 190 lbs right now. I do cardiovascular exercise 3 days a week and lift heavy (for me) 3 days per week. My "rest" day typically involves 20 minutes of cardio & activity with my toddler.
Resting Heart Rate: 58
Total Cholesterol (as of a couple weeks ago): 93
BP: 110/70
If you'd like to see any other health markers, just ask.
My typical ice cream, per serving (I tend to eat 4):
Calories 110
Calories from Fat 25
Total Fat 3(g)
Saturated Fat 2(g)
Trans Fat 0(g)
Cholesterol 5(mg)
Sodium 55(mg)
Total Carbohydrates 18(g)
Dietary Fiber 0(g)
Sugars 13(g)
Protein 3(g)
Calcium 6% DV
Vitamin A 4% DV
Typical Pop Tart (I tend to eat 2 at a time like most people):
Calories 200
Calories from Fat 45
Total Fat 5.0 g
Saturated Fat 1.5 g
Polyunsaturated Fat 2 g
Monounsaturated Fat 1 g
Sodium 170 mg
Total Carbohydrate 35 g
Dietary Fiber 1 g
Sugars 14 g
Protein 2.0 g
Vitamin A 151 %
Iron 2 %
Niacin 2 %
Folic Acid 40 %
Edited for typos.
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Oh boy.
In.0 -
Pop tarts are bad because they taste horrible.
Ice cream I have no beef with.0 -
Question: by what method have you determined a daily calorie goal of 4000kcal? I would say that a calorie intake of 4000 for you is a recipe for 1.5lbs/week or more of weight gain... was this a mistake?0
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i think it's perfect.0
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Pop tarts are bad because they taste horrible.
Ice cream I have no beef with.
QFT0 -
Pop tarts are bad because they taste horrible.
Ice cream I have no beef with.
^ This.0 -
Ummm....I got nuthin'
You win.0 -
Finally someone with some sense!Pop tarts are bad because they taste horrible.
Ice cream I have no beef with.
edited to add: Brown Sugar Cinnamon is the exception to this rule.0 -
Question: by what method have you determined a daily calorie goal of 4000kcal? I would say that a calorie intake of 4000 for you is a recipe for 1.5lbs/week or more of weight gain... was this a mistake?
The dude's exercise diary is full of 1300+ calorie burns. So probably not a mistake.0 -
Pop tarts are bad because they taste horrible.
Ice cream I have no beef with.
I've never tried beef ice cream.0 -
How on earth do you eat 18oz of chicken nearly daily for dinner? That seems impossible.0
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They are bad because they lack bacon. DUH!0
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I'm just popping in to say thanks for providing an excellent bait thread to attract all the argumentative pseudo-science crusaders (not mentioning any names) so the rest of us can post sensible reasoned responses in all the other threads without having someone reply 'well so's your FACE!' several hundred times on the same thread. Again, not naming any names....
Very civic-minded of you, cheers!0 -
It's not a big deal if you are eating (and burning) 3000-4000 calories per day. People that are questioning your choices probably don't consider this. For many who are eating less than 2000 calories a day, 800 calories every day from pop tarts and ice cream is a problem. Don't ask me to defend that assertion. I am pretty sure we all recognize this to be common sense.0
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Oh boy.
In.
LOL I just think if youre gonna indulge do something worthwhile like a cream filled puff pastry...MMMMMM! I dont know about pressed cardboard flour sweet squares. Although I do admit to pop tarts showing up on my binges. Never ice cream though I'm the odd fatty that can take or leave ice cream. I hope youre only buying premium ice cream.
I'm going to try to convince you to buy another pastry preferably a flaky buttery one with real cream. Shoot, I'd even bee happier if you tried jelly filled doughnuts you get more bang for your buck there. Also puff pastry is a treat to watch rise and you get some great antioxidants if they do a chocolate ganache. So I hope I've convinced you to purchase better baked goods.
Double points if you make your own ice cream and pastries.0 -
Eat the ice cream and pop tarts, just have a balance obviously. If you balance the rest of your diet out with wholesome food and don't have it everyday then you're fine. Learn how to listen to your body and eat what you're craving.
YOLO0 -
If your fine with eating that and you still can provide your body with the nutrients it needs then I say go for it! Dont let other people that arent even qualified tell you what you should and shouldnt eat - its called minding your own buisness!
However I may be biased due to my love of chocolate pop tarts and ben & jerrys phish food ice cream - a delicious combination :P0 -
Question: by what method have you determined a daily calorie goal of 4000kcal? I would say that a calorie intake of 4000 for you is a recipe for 1.5lbs/week or more of weight gain... was this a mistake?
The dude's exercise diary is full of 1300+ calorie burns. So probably not a mistake.
Gulp. You mean we're supposed to eat back our exercise calories? Why doesn't MFP have that built into the way it works? Why God, why?!!!0 -
They are bad because they lack bacon. DUH!
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